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1. 08:34 AM - http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Mark Jefferies)
2. 09:53 AM - Re: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Brian Lloyd)
3. 12:00 PM - Re: Smoke Oils (Scott Kirk)
4. 12:00 PM - Re: (Jim Ivey)
5. 12:12 PM - Re: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Roger Doc Kemp)
6. 12:55 PM - try again (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
7. 03:24 PM - Re: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Roger Doc Kemp)
8. 10:20 PM - Columbus NE in June (Dr. Robert Schroeder)
9. 11:15 PM - fu8el bladder tank installation in CJ6 (forrest johnson)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!! Use
FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
ps, I hope the above link is not cropped, it should end with ....marcoln82"
and nothing else.
Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies
For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com
Lt Gransden Airfield
Sandy, Beds
SG19 3BP
England.
Tel +44 (0)1767 651156.
Fax +44 (0)1767 651157
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
>
> I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!! Use
> FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
>
>
> http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
Sorry, it doesn't resolve for me.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
The question of smoke oils comes up now and again, I found the best way to
see whats being used is to track down airshow performers websites and see
what they require be provided in their "requirements list". Even the Blue
Angels and the Thunderbirds list what smoke oil they require, usually via
Mil spec but also list alternatives. An example would be Mike Goullians
website (link below) where he lists his requirements for performing airshows
which includes last I checked 10 smoke oils he considers acceptable for his
performances. He claims Canopus (Corvus) Oil 13 is the best but also lists
the following as acceptable:
Texaco Canopus (Corvus) Oil 13 or 519
Standard Oil Facto 39
Texaco Regal B
Sun Oil Circle X
Shell Carnea 10 or 22
Union Oil Unax 105
Gulf Oil 370
Arco Duro-S 105
Exxon Faxam 40
Military #1010 Eng. Oil
A few of us locally have been using Shell's Diala Oil AX which our local
distributor claims most locals have switched to in lieu of Corvus 13. I've
used SuperDri and the Diala Oil AX is easily equally as good but at a much
better price. I think its really a matter of what you can get from your
local distributor.
Shell Diala Oil AX: http://www.shell-lubricants.com/Electrical/products.php
Exxon Marcol N82:
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-english/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82.asp
Super Dri: http://www.mdw-aviation.com/MDW_About_Our_Oil.htm
Mike Goullian: http://mikegoulian.com/html/support_manual.html#operational
NOCO BL050HT: http://www.noco.com/NOCO-MSDS/Prime_BL_Series.htm
Scott
----Original Message Follows----
From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
>
> I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!!
Use
> FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
>
>
>
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
Sorry, it doesn't resolve for me.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. But what about engine
oils and avgas? Not to mention standard byproducts of combustion including
carbon monoxide and sulfur-based emissions. I know few mechanics that don't
get grease, solvent, laquer thinner or oil under their fingernails every once
in a while. Aircraft paint and finish coatings need no description, and the
Iridium painted on instruments and engine controls is lovely to behold on dark
night flights or even from the solitude of a hospice bed. I'm not sure any
materials commonly encountered in aviation have been "human tested" per FDA
guidelines.
I'm not too concerned about burned light oil released into clear air from
aircraft exhaust. The smoke is merely marking what is already present but
normally invisible. Couldn't be near as bad as second-hand tobacco smoke and
automotive emissions I've encountered in European and Asian locales.
Then again I live on a farm and it is not uncommon for us to use
defoliants (we
still use "Agent Orange", relabled "Prep" to stymie any controvesy) and
restricted-use petsticides released via aircraft, so I may not be the most
objective in these matters.
Jim
Quoting Mark Jefferies <mark.j@yakuk.com>:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
>
> I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!! Use
> FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
>
>
> http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
>
>
> ps, I hope the above link is not cropped, it should end with ....marcoln82"
> and nothing else.
>
>
> Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Me either.
Sorry old boy,
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/23/2005 11:49:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>
> Mark Jefferies wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
> >
> > I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!!
Use
> > FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
> >
> >
> >
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
>
> Sorry, it doesn't resolve for me.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com>
sorry YAKKERs
this one works
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82.asp
Best regards, Mark
www.yakuk.com
+44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Jim,
You are surely an exposed man with all those hazardous chemicals around.
But even sport F!@%#*%g carries a risk. Used to be it was from the father
or estraged mate with a loaded weapon, now one can die from a microbe!
What's life without a little exposure?
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
> To:
<yak-list@matronics.comhttp"://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PD
S/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82@roxy.matronics.com>
> Date: 5/23/2005 1:57:26 PM
> Subject: Re:
Yak-List:http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMA
RCOLN82
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. But what about
engine
> oils and avgas? Not to mention standard byproducts of combustion
including
> carbon monoxide and sulfur-based emissions. I know few mechanics that
don't
> get grease, solvent, laquer thinner or oil under their fingernails every
once
> in a while. Aircraft paint and finish coatings need no description, and
the
> Iridium painted on instruments and engine controls is lovely to behold on
dark
> night flights or even from the solitude of a hospice bed. I'm not sure
any
> materials commonly encountered in aviation have been "human tested" per
FDA
> guidelines.
>
> I'm not too concerned about burned light oil released into clear air from
> aircraft exhaust. The smoke is merely marking what is already present but
> normally invisible. Couldn't be near as bad as second-hand tobacco smoke
and
> automotive emissions I've encountered in European and Asian locales.
>
> Then again I live on a farm and it is not uncommon for us to use
> defoliants (we
> still use "Agent Orange", relabled "Prep" to stymie any controvesy) and
> restricted-use petsticides released via aircraft, so I may not be the most
> objective in these matters.
>
> Jim
>
> Quoting Mark Jefferies <mark.j@yakuk.com>:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
> >
> > I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some people!!
Use
> > FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
> >
> >
> >
http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
> >
> >
> > ps, I hope the above link is not cropped, it should end with
....marcoln82"
> > and nothing else.
> >
> >
> > Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies
>
>
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| Subject: | Columbus NE in June |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <firedog@visi.com>
Will there be a gathering in Columbus, NE this June? If so, when?
Thanks,
Robert Schroeder
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| Subject: | fu8el bladder tank installation in CJ6 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "forrest johnson" <flushjohnson@charter.net>
I am installing bladders in my CJ6. please comment on experiences particulary the
vent system. the original tanks dont feed equally due to yaw but can be corrected
with slight rudder pressure. Any info will be helpful. I dont see what
is wrong with using the original system. Thanks,FORREST
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