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1. 12:28 AM - Re: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Herb Coussons)
2. 12:29 AM - cancer smoke oils (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
3. 12:42 AM - Yak question (Tom Johnson)
4. 04:30 AM - Re: Converters (Rob Rowe)
5. 05:24 AM - Replacement Manifold Oil Drain Plugs (belov@iac52.org)
6. 05:41 AM - Re: Yak question (Don Glittenberg)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: cancer smoke oils (Roger Doc Kemp)
8. 06:27 AM - Re: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82 (Roger Doc Kemp)
9. 10:40 AM - MTW/OSH 2005 (Duncan aka Russ)
10. 11:28 AM - Yak / CJ Air Tanks (Dee L. Conger)
11. 11:41 AM - Great Adventures 2005 - Vickers Vimy (Janet Davidson)
12. 11:47 AM - Re: Yak / CJ Air Tanks (Dave Laird)
13. 12:48 PM - Vimy arrival at Downsview / TVSAC Project Tour (David Stroud)
14. 06:26 PM - Paint and Flutter (Ernest Martinez)
15. 08:55 PM - Re: Paint and Flutter (Robert Starnes)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
Doc -
I'm sure you meant "sport flying" - right ?
Herb "Doc"
On May 23, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Roger Doc Kemp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp"
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Jim,
> You are surely an exposed man with all those hazardous chemicals
> around.
> But even sport F!@%#*%g carries a risk. Used to be it was from the
> father
> or estraged mate with a loaded weapon, now one can die from a microbe!
> What's life without a little exposure?
> Doc
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
>> To:
>>
> <yak-list@matronics.comhttp"://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/
> Specialties/PD
> S/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82@roxy.matronics.com>
>
>> Date: 5/23/2005 1:57:26 PM
>> Subject: Re:
>>
> Yak-List:http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/
> GLXXENSPCEMMA
> RCOLN82
>
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
>>
>> FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. But what
>> about
>>
> engine
>
>> oils and avgas? Not to mention standard byproducts of combustion
>>
> including
>
>> carbon monoxide and sulfur-based emissions. I know few mechanics
>> that
>>
> don't
>
>> get grease, solvent, laquer thinner or oil under their fingernails
>> every
>>
> once
>
>> in a while. Aircraft paint and finish coatings need no
>> description, and
>>
> the
>
>> Iridium painted on instruments and engine controls is lovely to
>> behold on
>>
> dark
>
>> night flights or even from the solitude of a hospice bed. I'm not
>> sure
>>
> any
>
>> materials commonly encountered in aviation have been "human
>> tested" per
>>
> FDA
>
>> guidelines.
>>
>> I'm not too concerned about burned light oil released into clear
>> air from
>> aircraft exhaust. The smoke is merely marking what is already
>> present but
>> normally invisible. Couldn't be near as bad as second-hand
>> tobacco smoke
>>
> and
>
>> automotive emissions I've encountered in European and Asian locales.
>>
>> Then again I live on a farm and it is not uncommon for us to use
>> defoliants (we
>> still use "Agent Orange", relabled "Prep" to stymie any
>> controvesy) and
>> restricted-use petsticides released via aircraft, so I may not be
>> the most
>> objective in these matters.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Quoting Mark Jefferies <mark.j@yakuk.com>:
>>
>>
>>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
>>>
>>> I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some
>>> people!!
>>>
> Use
>
>>> FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/
> GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
>
>>>
>>>
>>> ps, I hope the above link is not cropped, it should end with
>>>
> ....marcoln82"
>
>>> and nothing else.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | cancer smoke oils |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com>
FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. ............
++++++++++++++++++
Jim, your attitude is American !! Yes we all polute but some more than others.
Nothing worse than coming home from flying stinking of diesel, it permutates worse
than cigarete smoke, clothes skin, hair etc. Marcol 82 is used as a base
for lots of cosmetics and is also known as "baby oil" labeled by johnson and johnson.
Belive me airshow totty will always go for the "baby oil pilot" rather than the
diesel pilot :>))
Its possible that the public will cotton onto the fact that diesel smoke is harmful
to the enviroment so will try banning it, so if WE show were using non toxic
oils it wont get banned, simple as that and why try getting lung cancer when
it can be avoided very easily?
Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> wrote:
Best regards, Mark
www.yakuk.com
+44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
Hello.
Looking for a Yak 52 style 'parking brake' lock for my Yak 50.
---------------------------
Thomas Johnson
Airpower Insurance, LLC
36 West Ocotillo Road
Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235
Tel: 602-628-2701
Fax: 623-321-5843
E: tomjohnson@cox.net
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
Hi Bob,
For what its worth ... from the electrical schematics;
Front AH:
- the smaller inverter PAG-1FP (left bank switch #3) provides 3 phase 36V
400HZ power to the front AH & rear turn & bank units
- the 3 phase feeds are routed via a common terminal block "K20" (station 5
left side)
- there are no AC fuses for PAG-1FP power feeds (unlike the bigger PT-200
inverter which has 11!)
- there are a couple of relay contacts in the AC feed to the front AH (relay
"n4" in station 6 relay box), triggered from rear cockpit "AH Fail" switch
So ... assuming front AH unit is OK (from swapping it out with the rear
unit);
- check if rear T&B is working OK, if it is then the PAG-1FP inverter may
not be the problem
- if T&B OK then check connections to AH on K20 terminal block & check n4
relay condition to make sure it has not come loose / bad connections
- if T&B not working then worth checking K20 terminal block connections
anyway before condemning the PAG-1FP (do you have an AC voltmeter?)
- I'm UK based so don't know of anyone who repairs inverters in the US (or
UK for that matter)
Gyro Switch:
- the gyro compass unit requires both AC & DC power
- PT-200 provides AC power feed (also to front T&B, rear AH, ADF [2 phase] &
G limit audio tone)
- left bank switch #8 provides the DC power feed & also operates a relay
that connects the 3 phase AC to the gyro unit (via 3 off 2 amp fuses)
Hope this is of some help ...
Cheers, Rob
YAK-52 G-YAKX
-----Original Message-----
Time: 10:29:38 AM PST US
From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Converters
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
Yakers,
The AH in the front of my 52 has been going bad and GIB said the back
was working fine so i switched them. The #2 AH (in front) started up
fine but after some acro it failed also making me suspect the #1
converter. How do i confirm this and are the Russian converters
repairable? Also noted the rear converter has to be on for the gyro
compass to work even though it (gyro) has it's own switch. Is that
right? ADF has been removed.
TIA
bob "Boris"
52BN
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| Subject: | Replacement Manifold Oil Drain Plugs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "belov@iac52.org" <belov@iac52.org>
Looking for 3 replacement manifold oil drain plugs for M14P. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Alex...
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| Subject: | Re: Yak question |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net>
Tom,
Can't help you but I put one on my 50 which I got from George Coy. You
might try him @ 802-868-5633.
Don Glittenberg
Decatur, Texas
Yak 50 N121GC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak question
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
>
> Hello.
> Looking for a Yak 52 style 'parking brake' lock for my Yak 50.
>
>
> ---------------------------
> Thomas Johnson
> Airpower Insurance, LLC
> 36 West Ocotillo Road
> Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235
> Tel: 602-628-2701
> Fax: 623-321-5843
> E: tomjohnson@cox.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | cancer smoke oils |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Hey, I'm not a smoker but it makes sense to me. Just think after that 8 min
routine all bathed in baby oil, You can slide right off that wing, right
thru the "Air Show Tooty's" arms and smell sweeter than a babies
ass.Slicker than owl s_ _ _!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/25/2005 2:25:10 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: cancer smoke oils
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd
<mark.j@yakuk.com>
>
> FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. ............
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
> Jim, your attitude is American !! Yes we all polute but some more than
others. Nothing worse than coming home from flying stinking of diesel, it
permutates worse than cigarete smoke, clothes skin, hair etc. Marcol 82 is
used as a base for lots of cosmetics and is also known as "baby oil"
labeled by johnson and johnson.
>
> Belive me airshow totty will always go for the "baby oil pilot" rather
than the diesel pilot :>))
>
> Its possible that the public will cotton onto the fact that diesel smoke
is harmful to the enviroment so will try banning it, so if WE show were
using non toxic oils it wont get banned, simple as that and why try getting
lung cancer when it can be avoided very easily?
>
> Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> wrote:
>
>
> Best regards, Mark
> www.yakuk.com
> +44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Yep. Intrepid aviator morted by a microbe ( or virus for that matter).
Doc Kemp
> [Original Message]
> From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/25/2005 2:24:10 AM
> Subject: Re:
Yak-List:http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/GLXXENSPCEMMA
RCOLN82
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
>
> Doc -
> I'm sure you meant "sport flying" - right ?
>
> Herb "Doc"
>
>
> On May 23, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Roger Doc Kemp wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp"
> > <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Jim,
> > You are surely an exposed man with all those hazardous chemicals
> > around.
> > But even sport F!@%#*%g carries a risk. Used to be it was from the
> > father
> > or estraged mate with a loaded weapon, now one can die from a microbe!
> > What's life without a little exposure?
> > Doc
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
> >> To:
> >>
> > <yak-list@matronics.comhttp"://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/
> > Specialties/PD
> > S/GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82@roxy.matronics.com>
> >
> >> Date: 5/23/2005 1:57:26 PM
> >> Subject: Re:
> >>
> > Yak-List:http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/
> > GLXXENSPCEMMA
> > RCOLN82
> >
> >>
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
> >>
> >> FDA-approved smoke oil surely makes a pilot feel good. But what
> >> about
> >>
> > engine
> >
> >> oils and avgas? Not to mention standard byproducts of combustion
> >>
> > including
> >
> >> carbon monoxide and sulfur-based emissions. I know few mechanics
> >> that
> >>
> > don't
> >
> >> get grease, solvent, laquer thinner or oil under their fingernails
> >> every
> >>
> > once
> >
> >> in a while. Aircraft paint and finish coatings need no
> >> description, and
> >>
> > the
> >
> >> Iridium painted on instruments and engine controls is lovely to
> >> behold on
> >>
> > dark
> >
> >> night flights or even from the solitude of a hospice bed. I'm not
> >> sure
> >>
> > any
> >
> >> materials commonly encountered in aviation have been "human
> >> tested" per
> >>
> > FDA
> >
> >> guidelines.
> >>
> >> I'm not too concerned about burned light oil released into clear
> >> air from
> >> aircraft exhaust. The smoke is merely marking what is already
> >> present but
> >> normally invisible. Couldn't be near as bad as second-hand
> >> tobacco smoke
> >>
> > and
> >
> >> automotive emissions I've encountered in European and Asian locales.
> >>
> >> Then again I live on a farm and it is not uncommon for us to use
> >> defoliants (we
> >> still use "Agent Orange", relabled "Prep" to stymie any
> >> controvesy) and
> >> restricted-use petsticides released via aircraft, so I may not be
> >> the most
> >> objective in these matters.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> Quoting Mark Jefferies <mark.j@yakuk.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
> >>>
> >>> I note that oils that are carcinogenic are being used by some
> >>> people!!
> >>>
> > Use
> >
> >>> FDA approved oils, ie those tested on humans!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Specialties/PDS/
> > GLXXENSPCEMMARCOLN82
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ps, I hope the above link is not cropped, it should end with
> >>>
> > ....marcoln82"
> >
> >>> and nothing else.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ" <Duncan1574@ExecPc.com>
RPAers who will be attending MTW/OSH 2005.
Please send me the following information ASAP.
Aircraft type CJ/YAK5x/L29/L39/Marchetti/etc
Number in party 1/2
Coming to MTW in formation ? # of a/c in flight, possible flight callsign
Tee-shirt size(s) (just a possibility @ this point but probable based on
quantities desired)
Russ "Air Boss" Witte-Dycus
North Central Event Coordinator
Red Star Pilot's Association
http://www.flyredstar.org
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| Subject: | Yak / CJ Air Tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee L. Conger" <dee@ansatainc.com>
Has anyone come up with a nifty replacement for the corrosion-prone air
tanks? Seems like they are getting harder and harder to come by, and
are quite expensive. Seems like everyone is getting to the point where
these are going bad. I'm looking into carbon fiber wrapped pressure
vessels for my -50 - about the same weight as the Russian steel bottles,
but 50% more volume. Is anyone else doing something similar? If this
works for me, I might put together a retrofit kit if there is enough
interest.
Dee L. Conger
La Jolla, CA 92037
(858) 754-3010 Direct
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| Subject: | Great Adventures 2005 - Vickers Vimy |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
The 'Vimy just spent the night here in Oshkosh, enroute to St John's,
Newfoundland. It should get to Toronto tonight, I think the airport is
Downsview Airport, but don't quote me on that. Its staying there until
Tuesday, then off to Ottawa, then St Johns prior to heading out to Clifden,
Connemara for some real Guinness. They hope to have a webcam on board, so
we can see how the flight goes.
http://www.vimy.org/home.html
or
http://www.vimy.org/newsandevents/projectupdates/index.html
Steve Fosset will be flying it, and the navigator is using the old methods,
none of those new-fangled GPS gadgets!
Janet
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak / CJ Air Tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Jim Kimball is making something for the Murphy Moose ...
picture at:
http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/air%20system%20complete.jpg
other info on it here:
http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/h_support_moose.html
maybe he could just build up some tanks for us....
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On May 25, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Dee L. Conger wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee L. Conger" <dee@ansatainc.com>
>
> Has anyone come up with a nifty replacement for the corrosion-prone air
> tanks? Seems like they are getting harder and harder to come by, and
> are quite expensive. Seems like everyone is getting to the point where
> these are going bad. I'm looking into carbon fiber wrapped pressure
> vessels for my -50 - about the same weight as the Russian steel
> bottles,
> but 50% more volume. Is anyone else doing something similar? If this
> works for me, I might put together a retrofit kit if there is enough
> interest.
>
>
> Dee L. Conger
>
> La Jolla, CA 92037
> (858) 754-3010 Direct
>
> This email and any attachments thereto may contain private,
> confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended
> recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any
> attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not
> the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and
> permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any
> attachments thereto.
>
>
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| Subject: | Vimy arrival at Downsview / TVSAC Project Tour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <dstroud@rogers.com>
Right you are, Janet. Downsview it is and the strip basically resides in downtown
Toronto. The winds at mid afternoon are about 15mph gusting to 20 all from the
East so who knows when it will arrive.
David Stroud ( licking my lips in ) Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 in early construction
Fairchild 24 project for sale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Wolf" <wolfpack@sentex.net>
Subject: [RAA-A] Vimy arrival at Downsview / TVSAC Project Tour
VIMY ARRIVING WEDNESDAY AT DOWNSVIEW
According to the pilot tonight, the Vickers Vimy replica scheduled to depart Oshkosh
mid to late morning
Wednesday May 25, arriving CYZD at Toronto Aerospace Museum late afternoon / early
evening same day,
subject to weather and serviceability. 1919 all over again. Expected to be here
several days. A lot of
people will be surprised [esp. Americans] that Lindbergh was NOT the first person
to cross the Atlantic non
stop.
Bill Tee, RAA-TR
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| Subject: | Paint and Flutter |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I've just finished painting the fuselage on my CJ and I'm not happy
with the paint match with the control surfaces which I opted not to
paint due to my lack of knowledge with fabric.
They were recently re-ceconited, and only have one coat of paint. Does
anyone know of any adverse effects of painting over the existing paint
of the control surfaces, mainly the elevators with respect to weight
and flutter? I know that my Bonanza elevators are very sensitive to
paint weight and could cause flutter.
Do I have to completely strip my control surfacess or can I just apply
a light coat of paint over the existing paint???
Thanks
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Paint and Flutter |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
very lightly wet sand your old paint before applying
the new paint, you do not want to apply enough force
to abrade the fabric.I would recommend you have the
color matched by the poly fiber people, you could call
aircraft spruce to see exactly who to talk to about a
color match. -Robert Starnes
--- >
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