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1. 05:15 AM - Re: Austin, TX (Roger Doc Kemp)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: CJ W&B (Brian Lloyd)
3. 05:16 AM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (Roger Doc Kemp)
4. 05:22 AM - ADS FBO (Num1Pilot@aol.com)
5. 05:23 AM - Re: [SPAM] - MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject (Jay Land)
6. 06:22 AM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (Walt Murphy)
7. 07:01 AM - Re: [SPAM] - MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject (Herb Coussons)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (Ernest Martinez)
9. 07:10 AM - Test (Terry Calloway)
10. 08:10 AM - What CNN and the lot don't report (Barry Hancock)
11. 08:22 AM - Thomas Jefferson on Social Security (Terry Calloway)
12. 09:05 AM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (Walter Lannon)
13. 10:19 AM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (cjpilot710@aol.com)
14. 10:46 AM - Re: What CNN and the lot don't report (Roger Doc Kemp)
15. 11:12 AM - Re: Thomas Jefferson on Social Security (Roger Doc Kemp)
16. 01:05 PM - MTW&OSH Changes (Cpayne)
17. 01:06 PM - CYLINDER GASKETS (JOE)
18. 01:27 PM - MTW&OSH Changes (MFilucci@aol.com)
19. 01:38 PM - Please review 'Selma Formation Fly-in Details' (Roger Doc Kemp)
20. 02:07 PM - Re: MTW&OSH Changes (Ernest Martinez)
21. 02:22 PM - (Tim Gagnon)
22. 02:31 PM - Re: (Dee L. Conger)
23. 05:06 PM - Trim Cables (Frank Haertlein)
24. 05:49 PM - Re: ()
25. 07:16 PM - Re: 3 quarts / hour (Desmor944@aol.com)
26. 10:13 PM - Yak-52 metal chip light (PHCarter@aol.com)
27. 11:49 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/04/05 (Cj6sly@cs.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Probably could sell the public on a "Red Air Aztecski".
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/6/2005 5:39:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Austin, TX
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
> Roger Doc Kemp wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp"
<viperdoc@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Well when you get feet dry and landed, plan on come to the Red Air Fall
> > Fling 14-16 Oct 05 at Selma (old Craig AFB), Al. KSEM.
>
> I expect to be "in country" permanently sometime in the latter half of
July. I
> will only have my Aztec but when the boat sells I plan to finish The
Project
> post haste so I have something fun to fly.
>
> So, time to start working on formation procedures for the Aztec. Whaddya
> think, maybe an Aztec flight demonstration team? If I paint red stars on
it do
> you think I can fool people into thinking it is a ruski airplane?
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
One other thing to consider is that the CJ6A is not level when sitting on its
feet. It is actually 2.6 degrees nose up. Airframe level theoretically occurs
when the airframe is on a 2.6 degree downslope, i.e. nose wheel 101.4mm lower
than the main gear. This could effect the location of various stations
slightly if someone left the airplane on its feet on level ground and then
used a plumb bob to take measurements to a reference tape laid on the ground.
The only way to get this stuff 100% right is to level the aircraft on jacks
and then take measurements using a plumb bob to a good tape laid on level ground.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Yes, #4 on my M-14 broke a stud and the other "7" studs on it were loose.
Have torqued all of them down now and yes the tabs were in place at the
time.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/6/2005 8:52:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 3 quarts / hour
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
>
> However, I can name at least one time where this occurred in a lower
> cylinder.
>
> Al DeVere
>
>
> Ernest Martinez wrote:
>
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> >
> >Oddly enough I was having this same discussion with my local IA here
> >today prior to this thread, and the mystery was, "Why does the problem
> >only occur on the top cylinders?" which my.. albeit cursory
> >investigation had deduced. His theory was since we're using paper
> >gaskets, they're "flowing" out over time just from the force of
> >gravity. He continued with his explanation of rivets which will work
> >harden from gravity just from sitting in a draw for an extended period
> >of time.
> >
> >Ernie
> >
> >On 6/6/05, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >>
> >>Food for thought:
> >>Some time ago I was talking to some sage type about this loose stud
problem.
> >>He only asked one question, what was causing the problem? "The studs
were
> >>working up though the nuts until the lower thread pitch (which is
different
> >>than the upper thread pitch) blocks against the lower threads in the
nut,
> >>this makes the cylinder just loose enough to blow the base gaskets", I
> >>replied. After thinking about 30 seconds he said, "Why don't you first
> >>check all the nuts for proper torque, this done, replace all the lock
tabs
> >>then clean the top of the stud and nut with MEK and use the super lock
tight
> >>on the top of the stud and lock tight it to the nut." Put some of the
> >>Torque seal type of paint on the tops of the stud so if the stud did
start
> >>to turn in spite of the lock tight it could be easily seen. The point
is
> >>simply that the clip is holding the nut and if the nut was bonded to the
> >>stud, then neither can turn and we don't have a problem. Seems to easy.
> >>
> >>Always Yakin,
> >>Doug Sapp
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> >>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> >>To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >>Subject: Re: Yak-List: 3 quarts / hour
> >>
> >>
> >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> >>
> >>One of the studs on the #1 cylinder had backed itself half way out. I
> >>double-nutted all of them to screw them back in and some of them got a
> >>couple of turns down before getting tight.
> >>
> >>It'd hard to exactly say cause and effect, but following the loss of the
> >>gasket, half the nuts were free-spinning loose.
> >>
> >>I say that the engine has 1,000 SMOH on it, but really, I'm overhauling
it
> >>one cylinder at a time in a continuous process. :-)
> >>
> >>Jon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>Jon,
> >>>
> >>>I had found my #1 #9 #2 cylinders all had loose nuts and 1 loose stud.
> >>>Apparently this is not uncommon for these engines. Were yours loose???
> >>>
> >>>Ernie
> >>>
> >>>On 6/5/05, Jon Boede <jon@email.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> >>>>
> >>>>This is the third time this has happened and it's been pretty
consistent
> >>>>symptoms each time.
> >>>>
> >>>>3 quarts an hour oil usage plus sloppy wet airplane = cylinder base
> >>>>gasket
> >>>>disintegrated.
> >>>>
> >>>>#1 this time.
> >>>>
> >>>>Just crossed 1,000 hours SMOH on the engine so I suppose I shouldn't
> >>>>complain. Just six hours to pull the cylinder and put a new gasket
> >>>>down;
> >>>>not something I was ever planning to get good at, but I yam. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Num1Pilot@aol.com
I flew through ADS in early December of last year and parked at FirstAir.
They were a top notch customer service ramp. I highly recommend them. They
treat you like you brought in a jet.... and they were very competitive
compared to the rest of the other FBOs on the field.
Hartley
"Postal"
FirstAir
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KADS/FIRSTAIR
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| Subject: | Re: MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
Russ
Generally when are people getting to MTW and is there a schedule this year
for practice etc..?
Is Sergei coming up?
Thanks,
Jay
> From: Duncan aka Russ <Duncan1574@ExecPc.com>
> Reply-To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:33:16 -0500
> To: RPA <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ" <Duncan1574@ExecPc.com>
>
> RPAers who will be attending MTW/OSH 2005.
>
> Please send me the following information ASAP.
>
> Aircraft type CJ/YAK5x/L29/L39/Marchetti/etc
> Number in party 1/2
> Coming to MTW in formation ? # of a/c in flight, possible flight callsign
> Tee-shirt size(s) (just a possibility @ this point but probable based on
> quantities desired)
>
>
> Russ "Air Boss" Witte-Dycus
> North Central Event Coordinator
> Red Star Pilot's Association
> http://www.flyredstar.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
I had a leak suddenly occur on #1 cylinder and found 4 lose nuts , the
rest were tight.
In checking each cylinder , I have found at least 2 lose nuts on every
cylinder , TSMOH on the standard 285 HP Housai is about 150 .
I have not noticed even 1 paper gasket pushing out and the oil loss was
on the order of 1/2 to 1 qt/hour. I also noticed that it was not
possible to rock any of the lose cylinders , they all appeared to be
tight when checked by trying to move them by hand.
In each case the locking tabs were secured against the cylinder base
nuts and looked normal .
Where can I obtain some of this Hylomar PL32 ?
Thanks for the input ,
Walt Murphy
Message 7
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| Subject: | Re: MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
Most people are arriving on 7-23.
The cookout with the local EAA chapter is that night - Saturday 7-23.
Flying to start Sunday with Russ putting up groups together. Since
Pappy is out flying I have had limited contact. He has been in
contact with the EAA as to when they want us in the airshow.
I have Harry Dutson checking into Sergei's availability.
Herb
On Jun 7, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Jay Land wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>
> Russ
>
> Generally when are people getting to MTW and is there a schedule
> this year
> for practice etc..?
>
> Is Sergei coming up?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
>
>
>> From: Duncan aka Russ <Duncan1574@ExecPc.com>
>> Reply-To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:33:16 -0500
>> To: RPA <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: MTW/OSH 2005 - Email found in subject
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ"
>> <Duncan1574@ExecPc.com>
>>
>> RPAers who will be attending MTW/OSH 2005.
>>
>> Please send me the following information ASAP.
>>
>> Aircraft type CJ/YAK5x/L29/L39/Marchetti/etc
>> Number in party 1/2
>> Coming to MTW in formation ? # of a/c in flight, possible flight
>> callsign
>> Tee-shirt size(s) (just a possibility @ this point but probable
>> based on
>> quantities desired)
>>
>>
>> Russ "Air Boss" Witte-Dycus
>> North Central Event Coordinator
>> Red Star Pilot's Association
>> http://www.flyredstar.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I was just repeating what was told to me, when I inquired about my
loose studs. I was told that it occurs mainly in the top cylinders, so
that got me scratching my head trying to figure out why. I was gsping
at straws, but if the problem seems to be with other cylinders, then
mystery over.
Ernie
On 6/6/05, Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>
> Ernest Martinez wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> >
> > Oddly enough I was having this same discussion with my local IA here
> > today prior to this thread, and the mystery was, "Why does the problem
> > only occur on the top cylinders?" which my.. albeit cursory
> > investigation had deduced. His theory was since we're using paper
> > gaskets, they're "flowing" out over time just from the force of
> > gravity. He continued with his explanation of rivets which will work
> > harden from gravity just from sitting in a draw for an extended period
> > of time.
>
> Uh ... no.
>
> The force of gravity is nothing compared to the hold-down force from the
> cylinder base flange.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
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| Subject: | What CNN and the lot don't report |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
Great story! It has nothing to do with aviation, but everything to do
with being an American....
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/War/Soldiers%20funeral/funeral.htm
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| Subject: | Thomas Jefferson on Social Security |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Hylomar is available from most auto/industrial supply dealers. It is
manufactured in the US by the producers of Permatex/Locktite.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Murphy" <waltmurphy@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: 3 quarts / hour
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
>
> I had a leak suddenly occur on #1 cylinder and found 4 lose nuts , the
> rest were tight.
> In checking each cylinder , I have found at least 2 lose nuts on every
> cylinder , TSMOH on the standard 285 HP Housai is about 150 .
> I have not noticed even 1 paper gasket pushing out and the oil loss was
> on the order of 1/2 to 1 qt/hour. I also noticed that it was not
> possible to rock any of the lose cylinders , they all appeared to be
> tight when checked by trying to move them by hand.
> In each case the locking tabs were secured against the cylinder base
> nuts and looked normal .
>
> Where can I obtain some of this Hylomar PL32 ?
>
> Thanks for the input ,
> Walt Murphy
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
The ain't no freak'n gravity. Earth sucks.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: 3 quarts / hour
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/systemsafety/newsletters/tp3658/pdf/3_2000.pdf
On 6/6/05, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oddly enough I was having this same discussion with my local IA here
> today prior to this thread, and the mystery was, "Why does the problem
> only occur on the top cylinders?" which my.. albeit cursory
> investigation had deduced. His theory was since we're using paper
> gaskets, they're "flowing" out over time just from the force of
> gravity. He continued with his explanation of rivets which will work
> harden from gravity just from sitting in a draw for an extended period
> of time.
>
> Ernie
>
> On 6/6/05, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > Food for thought:
> > Some time ago I was talking to some sage type about this loose stud problem.
> > He only asked one question, what was causing the problem? "The studs were
> > working up though the nuts until the lower thread pitch (which is different
> > than the upper thread pitch) blocks against the lower threads in the nut,
> > this makes the cylinder just loose enough to blow the base gaskets", I
> > replied. After thinking about 30 seconds he said, "Why don't you first
> > check all the nuts for proper torque, this done, replace all the lock tabs
> > then clean the top of the stud and nut with MEK and use the super lock tight
> > on the top of the stud and lock tight it to the nut." Put some of the
> > Torque seal type of paint on the tops of the stud so if the stud did start
> > to turn in spite of the lock tight it could be easily seen. The point is
> > simply that the clip is holding the nut and if the nut was bonded to the
> > stud, then neither can turn and we don't have a problem. Seems to easy.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: 3 quarts / hour
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> >
> > One of the studs on the #1 cylinder had backed itself half way out. I
> > double-nutted all of them to screw them back in and some of them got a
> > couple of turns down before getting tight.
> >
> > It'd hard to exactly say cause and effect, but following the loss of the
> > gasket, half the nuts were free-spinning loose.
> >
> > I say that the engine has 1,000 SMOH on it, but really, I'm overhauling it
> > one cylinder at a time in a continuous process. :-)
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Jon,
> > >
> > > I had found my #1 #9 #2 cylinders all had loose nuts and 1 loose stud.
> > > Apparently this is not uncommon for these engines. Were yours loose???
> > >
> > > Ernie
> > >
> > > On 6/5/05, Jon Boede <jon@email.net> wrote:
> > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> > >>
> > >> This is the third time this has happened and it's been pretty consistent
> > >> symptoms each time.
> > >>
> > >> 3 quarts an hour oil usage plus sloppy wet airplane = cylinder base
> > >> gasket
> > >> disintegrated.
> > >>
> > >> #1 this time.
> > >>
> > >> Just crossed 1,000 hours SMOH on the engine so I suppose I shouldn't
> > >> complain. Just six hours to pull the cylinder and put a new gasket
> > >> down;
> > >> not something I was ever planning to get good at, but I yam. :-)
> > >>
> > >> Jon
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | What CNN and the lot don't report |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
God bless his sole and God bless America. We are the few that stand the
line between anarchy and tranny! As all us old warriors know there is a
cost that has to be paid for our freedom. Some have paid the ultimate price
and others have paid it in parts.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
> To: YAK USA LIST <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/7/2005 10:10:08 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: What CNN and the lot don't report
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
>
> Great story! It has nothing to do with aviation, but everything to do
> with being an American....
>
> http://www.teletuition.org/documents/War/Soldiers%20funeral/funeral.htm
>
>
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| Subject: | Thomas Jefferson on Social Security |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Need to send that to the DNC leadership and the Clinton/ Teddy Kennedy
crowd!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Terry Calloway <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/7/2005 10:22:17 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Thomas Jefferson on Social Security
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
<tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
>
> "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
> government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
> taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>
Oshkoshers,
Nothing seems to stay the same, "they" always gotta screw with *stuff*. During
SNF, our Muckity Mucks (Pappy & Blade) were approached by WOA with an ATC/EAA
proposal for a mass WB arrival Letter of Agreement. Yes, now we gotta have letters.
My guess is the popularity of "formation" (gaggle) arrivals into Air Venture
by type clubs has overwhelmed ATC.
What this means to "us" is a designated reporting point, at a designated time,
coordinated with ATC, NATA, T-34's, etc. for a really big mass arrival on a given
date TBA. This will obviously affect our MTW schedule.
Barry, top off them tanks this time :
)
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | CYLINDER GASKETS |
--> Yak-List message posted by: JOE <joeh@shaw.ca>
Yaksters
Excerpt from H6A Maintenance Manual Vol. 1
APPENDIX X REPLACEMENT OF THE CYLINDER, PISTON AND PISTON RING
PAGE 65
Install the cylinder
Oil the piston and inner wall of the cylinder, put the piston ring notches at different
positions and a rubber seal ring
coated with yellow sealant and a paper gasket on the cylinder skirt ( the cylinder
face of the intermediate casing which is not treated with shot cleaning is
allowed not to fit paper gasket )
(My M14 engine does not have the paper gaskets )
Another point of interest re top cylinder base leaks,
When I first installed the M14 in my CJ I had a problem with oil leaks apparently
in that area, turned out to be oil coming from the blower seal vent under the
harness ring!
The H6A engine does not have this vent
Joe
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--> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
In a message dated 6/7/05 4:06:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cpayne@joimail.com writes:
Nothing seems to stay the same, "they" always gotta screw with *stuff*.
During SNF, our Muckity Mucks (Pappy & Blade) were approached by WOA with an
ATC/EAA proposal for a mass WB arrival Letter of Agreement. Yes, now we gotta
have letters. My guess is the popularity of "formation" (gaggle) arrivals into
Air Venture by type clubs has overwhelmed ATC.
What this means to "us" is a designated reporting point, at a designated
time, coordinated with ATC, NATA, T-34's, etc. for a really big mass arrival on
a given date TBA. This will obviously affect our MTW schedule.
The idea behind this change: WOA and the FAA are attempting to coordinate a
mass warbird arrival to kick off AirVenture this year. In order to have all
the warbird organizations participate ( and arrive overhead simultaneously)
they are developing an arrival plan. On subsequent days when we transit from
MTW to OSH, I expect that we will be flying the same warbird arrival we have
been using for years. We'll have more details as we get closer to the date.
Blade
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"Alex Harwick" <alex_harwick@yahoo.com>, sh60BPHIL@aol.com,
"Shane Golden" <scgsmg@direcway.com>,
"Ray Fowler" <rfowler@newsguy.com>,
"Ray Reeves" <rayreeves@gulftel.com>,
"FIRSTFLYSQN@aol.com" <FIRSTFLYSQN@aol.com>,
"Tom Bennett" <Thomas.Bennett@PeoAvn.Redstone.Army.Mil>,
"scott.patterson" <scott.patterson@peoplesbt.com>,
"Scott Mayes" <zapper01@gtcom.net>,
"zach mcneill" <n777ze@comcast.net>,
"BJ Kennamore" <BKennamore@aol.com>, "Tim Williams" <552tw@isp.com>,
"Hess737@aol.com" <Hess737@aol.com>
| Subject: | Please review 'Selma Formation Fly-in Details' |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Red Air Players / YAKKERS:
The Red Air Fall Fling at the old Craig AFB (KSEM--Selma, Al) is shaping up and
it is only 9 June 05! Please review the attached document for more details.
If you have not reserved your room, please do so. If we can fill up the block of
15, they maybe able to get us more rooms at the same location. We just need
to reserve them early so we can get more at the same location. If there is anything
missing from the list let me know. Also when you reserve your room, please
let me know so that we have a head count!
This is looking like its gonna be some Fun. We have a bunch of Oct Birthday babies
on the current list. It'll be a birthday party to remember!
Let me know if there are any changes. Also does anybody have Jim Cook's and Tommy
Hudson's email addresses?
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
If it don't sound Round...Why listen?
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| Subject: | Re: MTW&OSH Changes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I'm sure it will be very impressing to see 50 RPA aircraft and the 7
other warbirds arrive simultaneoulsy :)
Ernie
On 6/7/05, MFilucci@aol.com <MFilucci@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 6/7/05 4:06:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> cpayne@joimail.com writes:
>
> Nothing seems to stay the same, "they" always gotta screw with *stuff*.
> During SNF, our Muckity Mucks (Pappy & Blade) were approached by WOA with an
> ATC/EAA proposal for a mass WB arrival Letter of Agreement. Yes, now we gotta
> have letters. My guess is the popularity of "formation" (gaggle) arrivals into
> Air Venture by type clubs has overwhelmed ATC.
>
> What this means to "us" is a designated reporting point, at a designated
> time, coordinated with ATC, NATA, T-34's, etc. for a really big mass arrival
on
> a given date TBA. This will obviously affect our MTW schedule.
>
> The idea behind this change: WOA and the FAA are attempting to coordinate a
> mass warbird arrival to kick off AirVenture this year. In order to have all
> the warbird organizations participate ( and arrive overhead simultaneously)
> they are developing an arrival plan. On subsequent days when we transit from
> MTW to OSH, I expect that we will be flying the same warbird arrival we have
> been using for years. We'll have more details as we get closer to the date.
>
> Blade
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
I am looking for a source for a trim cable and maintenance manuals describing the
trim installation.
I have Jill on the case but just keeping an open line of comm.
Thanks,
Tim
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee L. Conger" <dee@ansatainc.com>
Tim - I think it is easier / cheaper just to install electric trim -
that's what I'm doing on my -50.
Dee L. Conger
(858) 754-3010 Direct
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Subject: Yak-List:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
I am looking for a source for a trim cable and maintenance manuals
describing the trim installation.
I have Jill on the case but just keeping an open line of comm.
Thanks,
Tim
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Tim
If your going to replace the trim cables on your 52 I would suggest
going with an electric trim system. Use a MAC servo mounted in the
elevator and a "hat switch" on the stick. This would require recovering
your left elevator and drilling the top of your stick to accept the hat
switch.
Believe it or not, the electric trim route is easier and faster than
trying to replace the trim cables. This from hard learned experience.
Replacing the trim system on a 52 is probly the most difficult job you
will ever face........except maybe dropping a lifter into your
engine...... I have the details on the installation if you are so
inclined.
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Subject: Yak-List:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
I am looking for a source for a trim cable and maintenance manuals
describing the trim installation.
I have Jill on the case but just keeping an open line of comm.
Thanks,
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
--> Yak-List message posted by: <johnhilterman1@cox.net>
Tim,
McFarlane....they did all my flight control cables as well as trim cable. As
far as installing it, I'm afraid I can't help you unless you want to talk to my
mechanic.
Hitman
From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
I am looking for a source for a trim cable and maintenance manuals
describing the trim installation.
I have Jill on the case but just keeping an open line of comm.
Thanks,
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: 3 quarts / hour |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Desmor944@aol.com
In a message dated 6/7/2005 9:22:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
waltmurphy@charter.net writes:
>
> Where can I obtain some of this Hylomar PL32 ?
>
> Thanks for the input ,
>
>
Walt
The manufacturer's technical data sheets can be obtained at www.hylomar.co.uk
.
SQ32M Hylomar Universal is in stock at $22.28 per tube at
www.airsuppliers.com/aircraftparts/SQ32M.asp.
Hylomar Universal Blue in medium grade is packaged by VALCO Cincinnati
(513-874-6550), and may be available at a local speed shop or British auto dealer.
Next time I am in the office, I will check on our source for the PL32
Aerograde.
Rich Desmond
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| Subject: | Yak-52 metal chip light |
--> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
My metal chip light started to flicker a bit a few flights ago when the
engine was cold. After this first flight, the metal chip light was coming on,
bright, when I turned on the instrument switch, but as the engined warmed, the
light went out and stayed out during flight once the engine was warm. I was
concerned so investigated by looking at the wire screens and inspecting the metal
chip sensor in the front oil sump. I did not find any metal chips and
everything looked okay, except the chip sensor appeared a bit dirty and bent.
I
cleaned the sensor, but this did not help. I replaced the sensor with a new one,
but this did not help. The light still comes one when the engine is cold and
goes out a few minutes after the engine is started.
The oil was changed about 15 hours ago, and I am about 60 hours since annual.
The engine has about 250 hours on it. Everything else is great, no
maintenaince problems, and no other events. The engine appears to run smooth and
strong. I use Aeroshell 100W. I have flown about 3 hours with this metal chip
light issue, but don't want to continue until I know what is going on.
Does any one have similar experiences or advice?
Preston Carter
N6209F
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/04/05 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6sly@cs.com
In a message dated 6/5/2005 1:07:28 AM Mountain Standard Time,
yak-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
> like the Dreaded Twisted Gill Disease...The ONLY cure is to throw it out
> and replace with an M-14P and Yak-18T shutters :)
>
Aaargh! The horror, the horror.....
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