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Thu 06/16/05


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 01:51 AM - Re: Re: AGE-85 (Ron Davis)
     2. 02:08 AM - Re: Re: AGE-85 (Ron Davis)
     3. 02:49 AM - Re: T-6 AD (Ron Davis)
     4. 05:47 AM - Re: Left Mag (Ernest Martinez)
     5. 07:09 AM - INsurance (Tom Johnson)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: T-6 AD (Jon Boede)
     7. 08:37 AM - Re: INsurance (Roger Doc Kemp)
     8. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) (DaBear)
     9. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) (Roger Doc Kemp)
    10. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) (Roger Doc Kemp)
    11. 03:36 PM - Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 (PeteAbbott@aol.com)
    12. 06:08 PM - Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
    13. 07:40 PM - Off Subject (Ron Spencer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:51:12 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: AGE-85
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> Your statements are correct, but probably misleading. Alcohol has less heat (energy) per pound than avgas (which is a high octane fuel), but the two have nothing to do with each other. Octane is a measure of a fuel's anti-knock properties and NOTHING else. Kerosene (jet A, diesel) has a very low octane and higher specific heat (more energy per pound) than 100LL, 115/145, or any other gasoline. Another important characteristic is vapor pressure- essentially a liquid's propensity to evaporate. Alcohols evaporate at lower temperatures/higher pressures than gasoline, which is bad for carbureted engines.


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    Time: 02:08:18 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: AGE-85
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> I was under the impression that it took more energy to grow the corn than we're getting out of the corn. Jon Probably not more energy, but a lot for diesel to plant, harvest and transport the fuel, natural gas to make fertilizer, and oil for the pesticides and herbicides. On the positive side, some of the world's best politicians are bought and paid for by Archer Daniel Midland. That is a positive, isn't it?


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    Time: 02:49:45 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: T-6 AD
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> T-6s and T-34s have a type certificate and commercial use is therefore allowed. As for Iskra's and Aero Vodochodys, some commercial activity is allowed- the prohibition is against carrying passengers (or cargo) for hire. Flight training is a gray area. ACM flight are training are instructive aren't they? Maybe, if this, if that... You can hire an expensive lawyer to weasel his way through the regs, or you can just ignore them. The feds are pretty busy fighting terrorism and can't be bothered with the little things.


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    Time: 05:47:07 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Left Mag
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Walt, The same thing happened to me about 2 years ago. I had done a MAG check, flown for 2 hours landed put the plane to bed. Next day during runup, mag 2 was dead. Culprit was a broken point spring. I had a little pool of oil in the mag cavity just under the spring. Dont think it had anything to do with it. Ernie On 6/15/05, Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net> > > Finally back in the air after a week of re torqueing all 9 cylinders to > fix the oil flood ( way too big to be called a leak) . > After about 1.5 hours in the air the engine burbled for a few seconds , > then smoothed out and ran fine for the remaining 20 minutes back to home > base . On the ground I performed a mag check and found that when I > switched from both to 1 the engine would quit. Not drop a few hundred > RPM, it would quit. > > After pulling the left mag cover I found that the breaker points were > open about 2 inches . Further investigation found that the return > spring had broken off of the breaker point assembly. > > I've never seen this on either auto's or airplanes ever. Has this > occurred to anyone else ? > > Question : is there anything special that I should know in order to > replace the breaker points ? > > thanks, Walt > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:09:31 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
    Subject: INsurance
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net> Friends: Been a while since I've posted an insurance update. As many of you know, I've started my own insurance agency. Always looking for business so would appreciate any referrals. The Yaks and Nanchangs as a whole have posted an impressive turnaround since 2004. The number of incidents and accident has been very "normal" this year. A direct result of training and dedication on behalf of the operators. We're heading into the busy part of the year now. Rocky Mountain Fly In is coming up (I'll be there in my Yak). OSH is coming up and many other events. Let's all work to continue this trend. Other news, with my new company I do have access to at least one new insurance underwriter. They will be more of a market for the experimental jets than pistons, but I am investigating both now. Fly Safe. Tj --------------------------- Thomas Johnson Airpower Insurance, LLC 36 West Ocotillo Road Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235 Tel: 602-628-2701 Fax: 623-321-5843 E: tomjohnson@cox.net


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    Time: 07:42:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: T-6 AD
    From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> I dunno... the Feds I keep running into at air shows are ALL ABOUT the little things. :-) Like proctologists they are! Jon > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> > > T-6s and T-34s have a type certificate and commercial use is therefore > allowed. As for Iskra's and Aero Vodochodys, some commercial activity is > allowed- the prohibition is against carrying passengers (or cargo) for > hire. Flight training is a gray area. ACM flight are training are > instructive aren't they? Maybe, if this, if that... > > You can hire an expensive lawyer to weasel his way through the regs, or > you can just ignore them. The feds are pretty busy fighting terrorism > and can't be bothered with the little things.


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    Time: 08:37:28 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: INsurance
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> TJ, Need contact info. Doc Kemp > [Original Message] > From: Tom Johnson <tomjohnson@cox.net> > To: Yak-List@Matronics. Com <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 6/16/2005 9:08:48 AM > Subject: Yak-List: INsurance > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net> > > Friends: > Been a while since I've posted an insurance update. > > As many of you know, I've started my own insurance agency. > Always looking for business so would appreciate any referrals. > > The Yaks and Nanchangs as a whole have posted an impressive turnaround since > 2004. > The number of incidents and accident has been very "normal" this year. > A direct result of training and dedication on behalf of the operators. > > We're heading into the busy part of the year now. > Rocky Mountain Fly In is coming up (I'll be there in my Yak). > OSH is coming up and many other events. Let's all work to continue this > trend. > > Other news, with my new company I do have access to at least one new > insurance underwriter. > They will be more of a market for the experimental jets than pistons, but I > am investigating both now. > > Fly Safe. > Tj > > > --------------------------- > Thomas Johnson > Airpower Insurance, LLC > 36 West Ocotillo Road > Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235 > Tel: 602-628-2701 > Fax: 623-321-5843 > E: tomjohnson@cox.net > >


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    Time: 12:02:08 PM PST US
    From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> Cpayne wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> > >So how does a simple exhortation to step up where others must fade back turn into something to rant about? Only in the mind of those who look for those things I guess. I'm hoping for for RECORD RPA turnout at OSH and participation to show off both our birds and our skills. > >Sooner or later our "secret" will be out...these are good honest, well-built warbirds that run at a reasonable cost (for a warbird). The way things go today, maybe sooner. > >Craig Payne > > > So, too all those I offended or mis-understood. I apologize. My rant was not directed at anyone in particular, but at what I felt from the message traffic. I'll slink into the background once again. Al


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    Time: 12:46:47 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> hey guys, If we bask in our other warbird drivers problems we may bring it back on ourselves. Sooner or later one of our guys is gonna rip the wings off one of these birds and the FAA is going to calling at our door. These are outstanding warbirds from every angle I can think of. I know we have been treated like redheaded stepchildren by the T-6 and T-34 community. We were the elcheapo warbirds at the air shows. Now the table has turned and by default we are now on center stage. The T-34 and T-6 guys are seeing the value of their toys go down because they did not police their kind. The guys in our ranks that are going out an over G'ing these birds in ACM are fooling themselves if they think pulling 10 G's (and I have heard it said...not seen it up close) on a regular basis will not damage those wings have another thought coming. It may take 5-10 years to happen, but it will. The guys that are trained in ACM know pulling G's (big ones) in a fight only means you screwed the fight up and are about to die.Now you gotta yank the wings off to save your but from the deaf at the black board in the debrief or having to buy the first round at the bar. Besides high G hurts me (I'm old Fart now). People are learning how good these airplanes really are and we are showing them through our training that we can fly them to the same or higher standard. And, because we have so many out there now, we are showing up in large numbers. It is our turn to be cordual, hold our heads up and continue to the airshow participants what we are made of. Because we AINT the red headed step child anymore. Those going to OSH, be nice to our less fortunate brethern and go out an give them a big flyby. Doc > [Original Message] > From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 6/16/2005 2:01:29 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) > > --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> > > Cpayne wrote: > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > >So how does a simple exhortation to step up where others must fade back turn into something to rant about? Only in the mind of those who look for those things I guess. I'm hoping for for RECORD RPA turnout at OSH and participation to show off both our birds and our skills. > > > >Sooner or later our "secret" will be out...these are good honest, well-built warbirds that run at a reasonable cost (for a warbird). The way things go today, maybe sooner. > > > >Craig Payne > > > > > > > So, too all those I offended or mis-understood. I apologize. My rant > was not directed at anyone in particular, but at what I felt from the > message traffic. I'll slink into the background once again. > > > Al > >


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    Time: 01:52:25 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Sorry for the typo's... was having brain farts between cases. The deaf should have been defeat. In the next paragraph "and continue to show the airshow..." would have been the correct choice for the fill in the blank. No ranting here, no insults intended by what I wrote earlier, and I'm really not trying to piss anyone off (probably have though). Anyway we are now running with the big dogs...so act like big dogs. Fly safe and chec 6, Doc > [Original Message] > From: Roger Doc Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 6/16/2005 2:46:31 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > hey guys, > If we bask in our other warbird drivers problems we may bring it back on > ourselves. Sooner or later one of our guys is gonna rip the wings off one > of these birds and the FAA is going to calling at our door. These are > outstanding warbirds from every angle I can think of. I know we have been > treated like redheaded stepchildren by the T-6 and T-34 community. We were > the elcheapo warbirds at the air shows. Now the table has turned and by > default we are now on center stage. The T-34 and T-6 guys are seeing the > value of their toys go down because they did not police their kind. The > guys in our ranks that are going out an over G'ing these birds in ACM are > fooling themselves if they think pulling 10 G's (and I have heard it > said...not seen it up close) on a regular basis will not damage those wings > have another thought coming. It may take 5-10 years to happen, but it will. > The guys that are trained in ACM know pulling G's (big ones) in a fight > only means you screwed the fight up and are about to die.Now you gotta yank > the wings off to save your but from the deaf at the black board in the > debrief or having to buy the first round at the bar. Besides high G hurts > me (I'm old Fart now). > People are learning how good these airplanes really are and we are showing > them through our training that we can fly them to the same or higher > standard. And, because we have so many out there now, we are showing up in > large numbers. It is our turn to be cordual, hold our heads up and continue > to the airshow participants what we are made of. Because we AINT the red > headed step child anymore. Those going to OSH, be nice to our less > fortunate brethern and go out an give them a big flyby. > Doc > > > > [Original Message] > > From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: 6/16/2005 2:01:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> > > > > Cpayne wrote: > > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> > > > > > >So how does a simple exhortation to step up where others must fade back > turn into something to rant about? Only in the mind of those who look for > those things I guess. I'm hoping for for RECORD RPA turnout at OSH and > participation to show off both our birds and our skills. > > > > > >Sooner or later our "secret" will be out...these are good honest, > well-built warbirds that run at a reasonable cost (for a warbird). The way > things go today, maybe sooner. > > > > > >Craig Payne > > > > > > > > > > > So, too all those I offended or mis-understood. I apologize. My rant > > was not directed at anyone in particular, but at what I felt from the > > message traffic. I'll slink into the background once again. > > > > > > Al > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:36:29 PM PST US
    From: PeteAbbott@aol.com
    Subject: Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com I admit it, I am new to "experimental" aircraft. The FAA wants something called operation limitations or some such thing. I have look through the books that came with my Yak but am at a loss. The FAA is oh so helpful. Anybody have any suggestions of where to go for this????? Pete Abbott N852GC


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    Time: 06:08:56 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Pete, All Yak 52's, when their Special Airworthiness Certificate was issued, had a set of Operating Limitations issued by the FAA Inspector (or a D.A.R. if he/she did the certification inspection). The OL's must be carried in the aircraft at all times as well as a current Program Letter listing the events the aircraft would be attending during the current year. If the aircraft has the Special Airworthiness Certificate, then I'd recommend you go back to the previous owner and ask him where the OL's are. The Special Airworthiness Certificate and OL's are inseparable. Regardless of whether or not you can find the OL's, a new Special Airworthiness Certificate and OL's will be issued by the FAA because the home base airport stated in the previous set of OL's is changed to your home base airport. The FAA does not issue just OL's. If the aircraft is relocated, then the Special Airworthiness Certificate AND the OL's must be reissued. No exceptions UNLESS different wording was used in the OL's and accepted by either the FAA inspector or the D.A.R. You will need the registration (N number) in your name before any Special Airworthiness Certificate and Operating Limitations will be issued by the FAA (or D.A.R.). So be sure to get that transfered to you first. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: <PeteAbbott@aol.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: operation and limitations for Yak 52 > --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com > > I admit it, I am new to "experimental" aircraft. The FAA wants something > called operation limitations or some such thing. I have look through the > books > that came with my Yak but am at a loss. The FAA is oh so helpful. Anybody > have > any suggestions of where to go for this????? > > Pete Abbott > N852GC > > >


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    Time: 07:40:31 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
    Subject: Off Subject
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net> Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823? -rs-




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