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1. 03:07 AM - Re: Off Subject (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: Off Subject (Ernest Martinez)
3. 04:57 AM - Re: Off Subject (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:16 AM - Re: Off Subject (Ernest Martinez)
5. 05:18 AM - On Osh and the T34 (Drew Blahnick)
6. 05:23 AM - Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 (PeteAbbott@aol.com)
7. 05:42 AM - Re: Off Subject (A. Dennis Savarese)
8. 05:57 AM - Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 (Ernest Martinez)
9. 06:22 AM - Re: Off Subject (Ron Spencer)
10. 06:42 AM - RPA Newsletters (Drew Blahnick)
11. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) (Yakjock)
12. 08:39 AM - Flight Instruction in eastern block aircraft and... (Drew Blahnick)
13. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) (Ernest Martinez)
14. 11:03 AM - T-34/T-6 etc. (Jerry Painter)
15. 11:45 AM - Re: T-34/T-6 etc. (David Stroud)
16. 12:29 PM - Kimble's Aviation / RPA East Coast Formation Clinic next weekend at GED (Charlie Lynch)
17. 09:06 PM - The Feds (Barry Hancock)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Ron,
I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two of
them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with him.
He's in OH.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
> <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
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> Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
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> -rs-
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I'll take an IAR 25 :)
Ernie
On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
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> Ron,
> I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two of
> them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with him.
> He's in OH.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
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> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
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> > Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Can't find any specs/photos of an IAR 25. Do you have a link?
Thanks
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
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> I'll take an IAR 25 :)
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> Ernie
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> On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
>> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
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>> Ron,
>> I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two of
>> them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with
>> him.
>> He's in OH.
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
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>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
>> > <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
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>> > Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sorry, should have said IAR 825
http://www.k12.nf.ca/sptech/projects/aviation/military/page3.htm
Ernie
On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
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> Can't find any specs/photos of an IAR 25. Do you have a link?
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Subject
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> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
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> > I'll take an IAR 25 :)
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> > Ernie
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> > On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> >> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
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> >> Ron,
> >> I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two of
> >> them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with
> >> him.
> >> He's in OH.
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
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> >> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
> >> > <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
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> >> > Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
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| Subject: | On Osh and the T34 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
Folks,
I was going to write this earlier. I had lunch with the Warbird Show airboss during
Air Venture in 2003 and discussed the name change of the association, our
place in the show, and other stuff. That year, the T-34 issues had hit the
rubber-on-the ramp numbers heavily and he could not get the L-39s to effectively
organize a FAST qualified formation for the show. In his words, some of the
warbird associations appeared "broken", and he was all for a stronger & more
unified group containing the Eastern Block aircraft. No doubt, it appears the
situation has grown worse for the EAA Warbird show due to the issues brought
up here.
Among any team environment, a fourship, an association or a squadron, well directed
presence of competition is a good thing, keeps the "players" focused and
motivated.
These are really excellent aircraft, and regardless of our growing pains in the
association, the development of a complex website, a secure socket online store,
electronic newsletters and whatnot, when we look around at the other organizations,
were one of the best equipped and its only a need for more volunteer
manhours that keeps us from going "over the top" (which, if anyone cares and
the Board knows, I consider corporate sponsorship and shared marketing to the
benefit of the membership to be one marker of that evolution of the RPA).
So whether its to help the EAA field a descent show, or healthy pride in ownership
of your CJ, Yak or L bird, or even the competitive satisfaction of being a
part of the first year the RPA fields more warbirds in a combined formation or
on the grass than all others including the T-6 or T-28s, if you have the gas
$ and time, Osh/mtw is the place. But I'm not advocating blowing off that vacation
cruise with the wife so you can make Air Venture, gotta keep those priorities...
I hope all who are going to Osh/MTW register online at the website - if strong numbers show, Herb (organizer) needs to know so he can prep for that. Non RPA members can register for the event at the website too! Just go to www.flyredstar.org and click "events" under the main logo, we put the same event registration page up for all to use. Registering is free of course, there is no pre-event charge for registering. Although you can select 'event description' to select any of the RPA volunteer organized events, Osh is RPA 134...
I got a call from Herb, he is setting up the coordination for the aerobatic box
at MTW. Use the list or direct email to work with Herb, or Jim G and Craig Payne
(all active past Osh/MTW planners) on what the event 'should be' or to volunteer
in any way. I for one, although planeless, thought the Rubber Chicken
stuffed with flour bomb drop at ARS was a hoot. I had to leave the event for work,
who won that competition anyway?
Fly safe, fly often,
Drew Blahnick
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| Subject: | Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com
Thanks for the help. I just love working with the FAA.
Pete
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Thanks
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Sorry, should have said IAR 825
> http://www.k12.nf.ca/sptech/projects/aviation/military/page3.htm
>
> Ernie
>
> On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
>> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
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>> Can't find any specs/photos of an IAR 25. Do you have a link?
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Subject
>>
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>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > I'll take an IAR 25 :)
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>> > Ernie
>> >
>> > On 6/17/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
>> >> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> >>
>> >> Ron,
>> >> I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two
>> >> of
>> >> them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with
>> >> him.
>> >> He's in OH.
>> >> Dennis
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
>> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> >> Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
>> >> > <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
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| Subject: | Re: operation and limitations for Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Hope this helps.
Ernie
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/faa/8700/8700_vol2/2_044_05.pdf
http://www.provide.net/~pratt1/ambuilt/exhibyak.htm
On 6/17/05, PeteAbbott@aol.com <PeteAbbott@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com
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> Thanks for the help. I just love working with the FAA.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
Hi Dennis,
Sure, please do so.
Thanks, -rs-
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Ron,
> I can put you in direct contact with someone who has 3 of them and two of
> them are for sale. Just let me know if you'd like to make contact with
> him.
> He's in OH.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Off Subject
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer"
>> <splitimage.wing@verizon.net>
>>
>> Anyone have any expereience or info on a IAR 823?
>>
>> -rs-
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
Folks,
We get a report of delivery from our electronic newsletter service. Although Jim
Goolsby is working on the 2nd qtr nwslter, the recent Hangar talk went out
and the report shows:
Sent to 446 Email Recipients.
Successful deliveries: 431 (15 bounced)
Opened: 280 (see remarks below)
Trusting the accuracy of this report (?), we want to insure that if you have an
email address on file with the association (current or former member) you check
your spam folders in your email program for an HTML based email from the RPA
sent 6/8/05.
You may have to modify your email program/software to accept html based email and
or recognize the address admin@flyredstar.org for recieving the electronic
products from the RPA. Modifying your spam protection criteria is generally very
simple for most modern email software programs. I hope this communication
system expands in use for members, from board voting, policy referendums, event
notices, bulletins, newsletters, whatever the membership needs are in the future...
On the website homepage, is a "newsletter signup" form anyone (non members) can
register for free with, it adds your email address to the list of recipients
for bulletins only. This form was missing some backend code that is now being
fixed and when that fix is done (thanks Deon) you can register to recieve these
products like Hangar Talk as a non member. If you're an RPA member with a current
email address on file, you're already in the database for any and all communication
products.
If you're an RPA member and you don't have the 6/8/05 hangar talk in your inbox/spam
folder, check to see if your email address is up to date, it shouldn't be
a problem as it's the same email address you log in with.
Hope this helps,
Drew Blahnick
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Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!
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| Subject: | Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
Al,
I thought your piece was well written and well intentioned. Craig's exhortations
are also for the greater good (although I'm beginning to worry about him a
bit. He mentioned a new paint job for his speedster!).
I read your article as talking about the warbird community as a whole and Craig's
as talking about the CJ/Yak/ARS component of the warbird group. The Blue Star
warbird group is shrinking as pilots and planes age. The government is growing
- and so long as the fashion of the day is to have everyone cringing on
their couches in fear of the terrorist hidden in the bush who just might use one
of our planes to obliterate the nation (one just can't be too sure about these
things) - there will be continued pressure to "secure" our airplanes. While
the Red Star group is growing we don't yet have the same status as our Blue
Star brethren. Al, I echo your thoughts that on the main theme of survival we
all had best work together seamlessly. Besides, some of my best friends fly
Blue Star planes.
However, on some bright afternoon - after the Blue Star ADs have been met - should
some stalwart Red Star pilot encounter T-34s or T-6s, I would think common
courtesy would call for him/her to display the qualities of the Red Star aircraft
in a convincing manner.
Batman
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| Subject: | Flight Instruction in eastern block aircraft and... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
Folks,
1. The National RPA CFI Database is now available to anyone for downloading via the home page at www.flyredstar.org , just scroll down and you will see a short blurb on the program and a link to download the contact excel file. If you are on the list, please check it out and send me corrections off list please. These are community pilots with experience in flight instruction in our aircraft.
2. Deon has completed the requested fix that allows anyone to register for free to be added to and receive the electronic communications products. Just go to www.flyredstar.org and click the register for newsletter link If you are an RPA member with a good email address, you're already registered. Non members registering using this system will get any safety or training products for the benefit of all. Members get all.
Hope this helps,
Drew Blahnick
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| Subject: | Re: (Sorry, but i get to rant a little) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
And in that spirit, I'm am about to roll up my sleeves and start
helping my neighbors here with T-6's with their inspections.
Argh! gotta remove eighty thousand bolts, strip the paint and do a dye
penetrant check.
Ernie
On 6/17/05, Yakjock <Yakjock@msn.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
>
> Al,
>
> I thought your piece was well written and well intentioned. Craig's exhortations
are also for the greater good (although I'm beginning to worry about him
a bit. He mentioned a new paint job for his speedster!).
>
> I read your article as talking about the warbird community as a whole and Craig's
as talking about the CJ/Yak/ARS component of the warbird group. The Blue
Star warbird group is shrinking as pilots and planes age. The government is
growing - and so long as the fashion of the day is to have everyone cringing on
their couches in fear of the terrorist hidden in the bush who just might use
one of our planes to obliterate the nation (one just can't be too sure about
these things) - there will be continued pressure to "secure" our airplanes. While
the Red Star group is growing we don't yet have the same status as our Blue
Star brethren. Al, I echo your thoughts that on the main theme of survival
we all had best work together seamlessly. Besides, some of my best friends fly
Blue Star planes.
>
> However, on some bright afternoon - after the Blue Star ADs have been met - should
some stalwart Red Star pilot encounter T-34s or T-6s, I would think common
courtesy would call for him/her to display the qualities of the Red Star aircraft
in a convincing manner.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Gents,
Several years ago I was I Phoenix visiting one of the kids. As usual, the
weather was beautiful and I got the itch. I'd never flown a Pitts, so I
looked up Budd Davisson and we flew around a bit in his S-2A. Lotsa fun. I
also got in touch with Sonny Weller and we flew his S-2C and did some
inverted flat spins etc. More fun.
Pittses are generally regarded as unbreakable, so imagine my surprise when a
couple years later Budd did a series of articles in Sport Aerobatics about
the rebuild of his S-2A and it turned out to have had several serious
structural failures/near failures, some of which had apparently existed for
some time. No, the airplane didn't "break," but it could have at any time.
The first airplane I ever owned was a Bellanca 14-13-2. Wonderful airplane,
but some of the paint was flaking off the fabric (typical of doped
Ceconite), and the paint was a little shabby, so I decided it needed a
little R&R. I cut the fabric off the ailerons and flaps and the parts
literally fell out of the fabric "bag." No external evidence of failure.
Inside, it was WET from condensation, and the glue had failed. No broken
parts, glue failure. Wood airplanes are built with WATERPROOF glue. Hmmm.
Of course, living here in God's Own Great Grey Pacific Northwest, we expect
a little water on the OUTSIDE once in a while, but I'd never had it rain
INSIDE the hangar before.
Bellancas, too, were once considered "unbreakable." Then some wings fell
off...
The point is, our "unbreakable" airplanes may never have had a reported
structural failure and may be really purty with their beautiful new paint
jobs, but lurking within maybe the dreaded Alu Worm or God-Knows-What
waiting to make its introduction to YOU.
I've seen CJ's with stress cracks in wing skins, badly corroded steel parts,
gear that shimmied something horrible, engines that vibrated so bad you
couldn't read the panel, -52's with bent "over-stressed" rudder bars and
tailwheels that shimmied themselves right off brand-new -52TW's, taking
parts of the fuselage along for the ride. In their military lives these
airplanes were subjected to Serious Student and Instructor Abuse day-in and
day-out, including all sorts of Two-Handed, Both-Feet aerobatics and ACM,
omigod-I'm-gonna-die situations and we'll never know how many G's.
Testament, knock wood, to their strength. But they won't stand up to abuse
forever any more than T-34's or T-6's will. Aluminum has memory, but no
mercy. Ever wonder why so many serious aerobatic airplanes have wood wings?
I've always figured the FAA's ridiculous requirement that we perform "all"
intended maneuvers, Vne demonstration in particular, for Phase II flight
test was an open invitation for "incompetent pilot and/or mechanic
demonstration," flutter demonstration, subsequent structural failure and
death of the demonstrator. Want to demonstrate Vne in your Bonanza or Twin
Comanche? Not me, NFW, but at least they have a ton of SB's and AD's so
everyone KNOWS they will break. Have you ever seen a list of AD's or SB's
for your CJ? Me either.
Enough. Be careful out there, keep your collar down and remember, the life
you save may be your own. There but for fortune...
JP
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| Subject: | Re: T-34/T-6 etc. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <dstroud@rogers.com>
Giday, Jerry. Your concern comes to me as no surprise. I muckled onto a 1941
Fairchild 24 which needed a rebuild for sure as a ground loop 20 years ago took
out much of the right wing. No time to work on it now but last winter I pulled
the
skin off the vert stab and the glue in the ribs fell apart like the hard candy
you used
to see on a Halloween apple. I'm sure there are plenty of 24's flying right now
like that.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 in early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Subject: Yak-List: T-34/T-6 etc.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
>
> Gents,
>
> Several years ago I was I Phoenix visiting one of the kids. As usual, the
> weather was beautiful and I got the itch. I'd never flown a Pitts, so I
> looked up Budd Davisson and we flew around a bit in his S-2A. Lotsa fun. I
> also got in touch with Sonny Weller and we flew his S-2C and did some
> inverted flat spins etc. More fun.
>
> Pittses are generally regarded as unbreakable, so imagine my surprise when a
> couple years later Budd did a series of articles in Sport Aerobatics about
> the rebuild of his S-2A and it turned out to have had several serious
> structural failures/near failures, some of which had apparently existed for
> some time. No, the airplane didn't "break," but it could have at any time.
>
> The first airplane I ever owned was a Bellanca 14-13-2. Wonderful airplane,
> but some of the paint was flaking off the fabric (typical of doped
> Ceconite), and the paint was a little shabby, so I decided it needed a
> little R&R. I cut the fabric off the ailerons and flaps and the parts
> literally fell out of the fabric "bag." No external evidence of failure.
> Inside, it was WET from condensation, and the glue had failed. No broken
> parts, glue failure. Wood airplanes are built with WATERPROOF glue. Hmmm.
> Of course, living here in God's Own Great Grey Pacific Northwest, we expect
> a little water on the OUTSIDE once in a while, but I'd never had it rain
> INSIDE the hangar before.
>
> Bellancas, too, were once considered "unbreakable." Then some wings fell
> off...
>
> The point is, our "unbreakable" airplanes may never have had a reported
> structural failure and may be really purty with their beautiful new paint
> jobs, but lurking within maybe the dreaded Alu Worm or God-Knows-What
> waiting to make its introduction to YOU.
>
> I've seen CJ's with stress cracks in wing skins, badly corroded steel parts,
> gear that shimmied something horrible, engines that vibrated so bad you
> couldn't read the panel, -52's with bent "over-stressed" rudder bars and
> tailwheels that shimmied themselves right off brand-new -52TW's, taking
> parts of the fuselage along for the ride. In their military lives these
> airplanes were subjected to Serious Student and Instructor Abuse day-in and
> day-out, including all sorts of Two-Handed, Both-Feet aerobatics and ACM,
> omigod-I'm-gonna-die situations and we'll never know how many G's.
> Testament, knock wood, to their strength. But they won't stand up to abuse
> forever any more than T-34's or T-6's will. Aluminum has memory, but no
> mercy. Ever wonder why so many serious aerobatic airplanes have wood wings?
> I've always figured the FAA's ridiculous requirement that we perform "all"
> intended maneuvers, Vne demonstration in particular, for Phase II flight
> test was an open invitation for "incompetent pilot and/or mechanic
> demonstration," flutter demonstration, subsequent structural failure and
> death of the demonstrator. Want to demonstrate Vne in your Bonanza or Twin
> Comanche? Not me, NFW, but at least they have a ton of SB's and AD's so
> everyone KNOWS they will break. Have you ever seen a list of AD's or SB's
> for your CJ? Me either.
>
> Enough. Be careful out there, keep your collar down and remember, the life
> you save may be your own. There but for fortune...
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Charlie Lynch" <lynch@netjets.com>
Hi,
Larry Kelly will have his B-25 at our clinic and will be using it as a
photo platform. We hope to get a number of good solo, small and
mid-sized formation photos. There is no cost to the group. Larry will
provide the aircraft and Sean Carroll of Kimble's will provide the fuel
for the B-25. Sean will have two professional photographers attending.
I hope we will get some interesting pictures. It can prove to be a bit
of a challenge with the speed differential, especially for the Yaks.
Staying on the inside of the turn really helps. For those of you who
have not flown off a B-25, it is an incredible experience. It is like
watching an old war movie except that the B-25 is right in front of you
in living color. Also, watch out for its wake turbulence......
We have over 20 aircraft registered for the event. Most are showing up
Thursday night. Ground school starts promptly at 8 am and will be
taught by Prof. Ski and Asst. Prof. DaBear. The weekend should be good
fun. There is still availability at the hotel as of yesterday. Let's
hope for great weather. Please give me a call with any questions.
Have a great weekend,
Charlie
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NetJets, Inc. - A Berkshire Hathaway Company
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On Jun 16, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> You can hire an expensive lawyer to weasel his way through the regs,
> or you
> can just ignore them. The feds are pretty busy fighting terrorism and
> can't
> be bothered with the little things.
Au contraire, mon fraire... The Feds were very interested in the
Shared Squadrons the first time we put an ad out in In Flight USA.
The Feds have been searching for a guy at our airport who is
advertising flight training in the L-39 (not even ACM, etc.). Anything
that gets advertised is going to raise the eyebrow of the Feds.
In fact, we (Worldwide Warbirds) have been under satellite surveillance
for several years....10+ L-39's on the same ramp at any one time seems
to have their interest....
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
1-866-L39-JETS
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