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1. 03:01 AM - Re: Kimble's Aviation / RPA Formation Clinic in GED this coming wee... (Yak52w@aol.com)
2. 02:59 PM - T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer (ByronMFox@AOL.COM)
3. 04:47 PM - Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer (Graeme Frew)
4. 06:20 PM - Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer (Roger Doc Kemp)
5. 06:28 PM - For Sale (Jeff Linebaugh)
6. 06:32 PM - Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer (Craig Payne)
7. 06:33 PM - For Sale Addendum... (Jeff Linebaugh)
8. 07:51 PM - out bound (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 08:10 PM - Re: out bound (Bill Mills)
10. 08:43 PM - Re: out bound (Roger Doc Kemp)
11. 08:51 PM - Re: For Sale (William E. McNerney)
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Subject: | Re: Kimble's Aviation / RPA Formation Clinic in GED this coming |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Yak52w@aol.com
Charlie:
Don Linn has attended several Flying W weekends in the spring and was at the
2004 fall event at GED last year. He is an excellent photographer and the
team player you seek for the photo ship. He has been doing professional Air to
Air photo work and 30+ years ago took air to air shots of Steve Dalton in
A-4's. Also, he's the guy who took the photos of Dalton inverted with Ski and
Harry in formation.
I have contacted him and he's planning to be on hand for most of the
weekend so please hook him up for a seat in the B-25. He's also working on an
article to be published about the yak aircraft.
Tim Stevens
Phone 856-222-1000 x103 Days
Cell 609-922-0547
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Subject: | T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
If you haven't seen it, I encourage you to locate a copy of June's Aviation
Consumer and read "The Mentor's Lesson."
The T-34 Association, and particularly Dan Thomas, who many of you
Californians may know, has done the warbird community a great service. Out of the
necessity to save their airplanes, computer modeling has been developed to forecast
structural wing failure under various loading situations, running from high-G
ACM to boring holes in the sky. While we all intuitive know that high wing
loading, and particularly rolling Gs, will hasten spar fatigue, it's stunning to
learn that in the T-34's case wing life expectancy plummets from 880,000 hours
for benign flight to a "mere 6,000 hours" for aggressive ACM at +6/-2Gs.
I have yet to hear (and advise me if I'm ignorant) of a structural failure in
the Yak 52 or CJ fleets in the US, Europe, New Zealand or Australia. While
Yak 52s generally appear to have low airframe times, most CJs were bumping
around 4,000 hours when they came out of China. Also to assume that both types
received less the benign treatment in their homelands would seem justified.
So, while I think Chicken Little can safely strut about the barn yard, we'd
do well to heed the T-34 Association's work. ...Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
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Subject: | Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
All good info. I'm told that our dear old BAC Strikemasters used to work on
a Fatigue Index. 80 FIs got you a major servicing. A sortie involving acm
and low level in a howling westerly over NZ's terrain burned up 0.8 FI.
And to completely ruin your day check out what they are doing with Nanchangs
in Perth, Australia at www.fciwa.com Look familiar to anyone?
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Subject: | Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
This looks all to familiar. We need to be careful with this fighter pilot
for a day thing as well as teaching our members ACM. You don't get to be a
Fangs hanging, hair on fire, balls on your forehead fighter pilot in a day
or a few three day weekends for that matter. It takes us 18 MO. to mint a
steely eyed young fledgling fighter pilot (wing man). That is with
"clubbing the baby seals" 5 days a week for 24 weeks. That includes giving
them a Friday night off at the "big house for Crud, chasing bar flies, bat
hangings, and in general killing brain cells" to blow off steam. Yeah, I
know it only takes about 3 weeks to teach the baby seal to proficiently fly
the plane and the rest is learning to employ the A/C as a weapon.
We are not going to train our RPA members to fly ACM in 3 day weekend
clinics and achieve any level of proficiency or safety. Then send "Bubba"
to his home drone to demonstrate to his buds what he learned having no clue
as to what Rolling G is, what the physiology of G's entail, or what stress
he is introducing his already stressed wing spare to. It is a receipt for
disaster. That will not be good for the rest of the YAK community,
particularly here where travel stops between the east and west coast and
only 5% of us have a passport.
For that matter, I personally am not for introducing John Q public to ACM.
Wonder how many times these blokes have had to clean the trunk out after
the pax puked all over himself and the airplane. I know for a fact that
really pisses a crew chief off.
But since we already have someone out there doing this, we now have a
barometer to see how long it will take to shuck a wing off a CJ. A cold
thought I know, but ....
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Graeme Frew <gfrew@attglobal.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/22/2005 6:46:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
>
> All good info. I'm told that our dear old BAC Strikemasters used to work
on
> a Fatigue Index. 80 FIs got you a major servicing. A sortie involving acm
> and low level in a howling westerly over NZ's terrain burned up 0.8 FI.
> And to completely ruin your day check out what they are doing with
Nanchangs
> in Perth, Australia at www.fciwa.com Look familiar to anyone?
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Regrettably, after 6 years of being caretakers for our "CJ", we are offering
it for sale.
Nanchang CJ-6A with M-14P Engine Conversion
Pristine Condition
U.S. Certification in 1999
Reconditioned/Conversion to 360 HP engine in 2004
Engine Time:192 TT, 72 Since Factory Overhaul (Russia)
Prop Time: 72 Since Overhaul
Airframe Time: 4235 hrs
Airshow Quality Paint (Acryglo) with Chinese markings
Airshow Quality Smoke System (7 gallons, inverted, with fill pump)
Apollo GX-65 GPS/Comm with moving map
Garmin GTX-320 Transponder with Mode C
PS Engineering Intercom
B & C Lightweight Alternator
Horizon Digital Tachometer
G-meter, Vertical Card Compass, Hobbs meter and EGT
Wingtip Strobe Lights
Sealed Gel-cell batteries
Tinted U.S. Canopies
Large Carpeted Baggage Compartment
Intake Manifold Drains and Oil Shutoff System
U.S. Cleveland Nosewheel
Polished Wheels, Chrome Uplocks, Tow hooks, Cowl Latches, etc.
All Stainless Dzeus Fasteners and Hardware
Sale Price...? $125,000
Hours of Pampering? ....Priceless
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
CJ-6P N621CJ
Memphis, TN
901 606-6735
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Subject: | Re: T-34 Article in Aviation Consumer |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
From the Fighter Combat International Center: "The latest additions to our line-up
are our three Chinese CJ-6A Nanchangs. All our aircraft are two seaters, with
dual controls, allowing you the option to 'Take the stick'."
Oh poop, "take the stick" and rip them wings off! Why couldn't they pick on Yaks??
Are Nanchangs cheaper in Aussie land? I wonder if they let customers do the
same for the T-6, L-39 or P-51??
YES, it could happen to us.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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Subject: | For Sale Addendum... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Regrettably, after 6 years of being caretakers for our "CJ", we are offering
it for sale.
For details see our website:
http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
CJ-6P N621CJ
Memphis, TN
901 606-6735
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Troops,
Will leave at O-dark early for the clinic at KGED. Weather looks good.
After the clinic I planned to proceed north and spend some time with the wife
and grand kids in KILG. Will head south on the 1st. Will be off line until
the 26 th. Cell phone # 386-503-9820.
Cherry O
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill Mills" <Bill.Mills@totaltec.com>
Pappy
Call me. I'm Leaving early too.
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From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To:yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: out bound
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Troops,
Will leave at O-dark early for the clinic at KGED. Weather looks good.
After the clinic I planned to proceed north and spend some time with the wife
and grand kids in KILG. Will head south on the 1st. Will be off line until
the 26 th. Cell phone # 386-503-9820.
Cherry O
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Oh to be retired. Going all the time but doing something you absolutely
love doing!
Fly safe,
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: <cjpilot710@aol.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/22/2005 9:51:24 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: out bound
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> Troops,
>
> Will leave at O-dark early for the clinic at KGED. Weather looks good.
> After the clinic I planned to proceed north and spend some time with the
wife
> and grand kids in KILG. Will head south on the 1st. Will be off line
until
> the 26 th. Cell phone # 386-503-9820.
>
> Cherry O
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "William E. McNerney" <mcnerney@mc.net>
*Jeff, this sounds like a beautiful plane. Would it be possible to see
it over the 4th of July weekend? I live up near Chicago. Thanks, Bill
*
>*--> Yak-L*ist message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
>
>
>Regrettably, after 6 years of being caretakers for our "CJ", we are offering
>it for sale.
>Nanchang CJ-6A with M-14P Engine Conversion
>Pristine Condition
>U.S. Certification in 1999
>Reconditioned/Conversion to 360 HP engine in 2004
>Engine Time:192 TT, 72 Since Factory Overhaul (Russia)
>Prop Time: 72 Since Overhaul
>Airframe Time: 4235 hrs
>Airshow Quality Paint (Acryglo) with Chinese markings
>Airshow Quality Smoke System (7 gallons, inverted, with fill pump)
>Apollo GX-65 GPS/Comm with moving map
>Garmin GTX-320 Transponder with Mode C
>PS Engineering Intercom
>B & C Lightweight Alternator
>Horizon Digital Tachometer
>G-meter, Vertical Card Compass, Hobbs meter and EGT
>Wingtip Strobe Lights
>Sealed Gel-cell batteries
>Tinted U.S. Canopies
>Large Carpeted Baggage Compartment
>Intake Manifold Drains and Oil Shutoff System
>U.S. Cleveland Nosewheel
>Polished Wheels, Chrome Uplocks, Tow hooks, Cowl Latches, etc.
>All Stainless Dzeus Fasteners and Hardware
>
>Sale Price...? $125,000
>Hours of Pampering? ....Priceless
>
>
>Jeff Linebaugh
>jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>CJ-6P N621CJ
>Memphis, TN
>901 606-6735
>
>
>
>
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