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Sat 06/25/05


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 05:33 AM - Re: T-6, T-34 (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 02:22 PM - Re: oil pressure (Cliff Umscheid)
     3. 02:40 PM - Re: oil pressure (Ernest Martinez)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:33:50 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: T-6, T-34
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Sure will. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: T-6, T-34 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > Well that's just dandy. This would be the month that the EAA forgot to > send > my magazine. Dennis can you bring a copy to the hanger next time you come > out. > Doc > > >> [Original Message] >> From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> Date: 6/24/2005 5:56:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: T-6, T-34 >> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> >> >> Yep! Sure was. >> Dennis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: T-6, T-34 >> >> >> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> >> > >> > Good article in the latest Warbirds magazine about the T-34's and >> > abuse from commercial operators. >> > >> > Ernie >> > >> > On 6/24/05, Jerry Painter <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" >> >> <wild.blue@verizon.net> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron, >> >> >> >> I agree with you completely. What I am advocating is a shared, >> >> central >> >> source of information about our airplanes so that full access to all >> >> technical and operating information is readily available. RPA seems > like >> >> a >> >> reasonable custodian and outlet, whether by download or purchase. The >> >> first >> >> problem, as you note, is translation of the necessary documents. For >> >> better >> >> or worse it's not gonna be the FAA "helping" us. >> >> >> >> Right now all you have to do to start up a commercial "training" >> >> operation >> >> is go to the EAA website and obtain a certificate from them (EAA). > Hey, >> >> I've got one myself. Great idea for "real" training in an >> >> Experimental >> >> airplane, but there's always someone...and the rest of us will pay > when >> >> the >> >> doo hits the doorknob. >> >> >> >> We DO NOT want to wait until someone gets killed, especially if they > are >> >> civilians on the ground or innocents who've paid for a thrill ride. > That >> >> will only place us square in the news media and FAA crosshairs. We've >> >> been >> >> through that with the F-86 incident 35 years ago. Once is enough. >> >> >> >> Assuring "airworthiness" (small "a") and proper maintenance seems like > a >> >> good place to start. Hair on fire and smokin' holes is great > Hollywood, >> >> but >> >> poor reality, especially if you have to pay the bill. Of course, you > can >> >> get killed straight and level, too. >> >> >> >> Jerry Painter >> >> >> >> >> >> =09 >> >> "> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:22:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: oil pressure
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com> Brian. Re: declining oil pressure as operating temp increases: check the accuracy of your oil temp guage, then swap in a replacement oil press guage, check its accuracy, You don't say what engine you're operating but check the manual for a weak oil pump or an adjustment thereto. Keep after this problem until you have swapped enough components and checked enough variables. How much time is on your engine. If it's old and weak, low oil press. at idle is sometimes to be expected. If the engine is low time and running strong you want to know what's causing this phenomena at idle RPM. Cliff On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:30:41 -0700 (PDT) brian olofsson <brian060901@yahoo.com> writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: brian olofsson > <brian060901@yahoo.com> > > Oil pressure: should I be concerned? My gauge show's a solid 4 > potatoes when cold or at cruise rpm. After the oil get's to mid > green on the temp. the pressure drop's to 2 potatoes at idle. If oil > is at the top of the green the pressure might even drop to 1.6 or > so. I was considering this normal but several folks have told me > their pressure does not drop at idle. > What's normal?? Brian P.S. I'm using straight 100w > > Jerry Painter <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" > > > Ron, > > I agree with you completely. What I am advocating is a shared, > central > source of information about our airplanes so that full access to > all > technical and operating information is readily available. RPA seems > like a > reasonable custodian and outlet, whether by download or purchase. > The first > problem, as you note, is translation of the necessary documents. For > better > or worse it's not gonna be the FAA "helping" us. > > Right now all you have to do to start up a commercial "training" > operation > is go to the EAA website and obtain a certificate from them (EAA). > Hey, > I've got one myself. Great idea for "real" training in an > Experimental > airplane, but there's always someone...and the rest of us will pay > when the > doo hits the doorknob. > > We DO NOT want to wait until someone gets killed, especially if they > are > civilians on the ground or innocents who've paid for a thrill ride. > That > will only place us square in the news media and FAA crosshairs. > We've been > through that with the F-86 incident 35 years ago. Once is enough. > > Assuring "airworthiness" (small "a") and proper maintenance seems > like a > good place to start. Hair on fire and smokin' holes is great > Hollywood, but > poor reality, especially if you have to pay the bill. Of course, you > can > get killed straight and level, too. > > Jerry Painter > > > =09 > "> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:40:53 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: oil pressure
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> When oil is cold it will not flow as readily as when it is hot. So it is normal for pressure to drop after the oil has heated. He said he was using straight 100W not a multigrade, which alleviates this problem somewhat. His pressure may be low after warmup and need to be adjusted, but the fact that it is higer when cold is not strange at all. I cant comment on his reading since my guage doesnt read in potato's, but I my pilot notes state 1.5 kg/sq cm min at startup @ 1600 - 1700 RPM 4.7 kg/sq cm @ takeoff power between 4-7 kg/sq cm warm idle min 1.5 kg/sq cm So it sounds to me like he's ok. Ernie Ernie On 6/25/05, Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com> > > Brian. Re: declining oil pressure as operating temp increases: > check the accuracy of your oil temp guage, then swap in a replacement > oil press guage, check its accuracy, You don't say what engine you're > operating but check the manual for a weak oil pump or an adjustment > thereto. Keep after this problem until you have swapped enough components > and checked enough variables. How much time is on your engine. If it's > old and weak, low oil press. at idle is sometimes to be expected. If the > engine is low time and running > strong you want to know what's causing this phenomena at idle RPM. > > Cliff > > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:30:41 -0700 (PDT) brian olofsson > <brian060901@yahoo.com> writes: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: brian olofsson > > <brian060901@yahoo.com> > > > > Oil pressure: should I be concerned? My gauge show's a solid 4 > > potatoes when cold or at cruise rpm. After the oil get's to mid > > green on the temp. the pressure drop's to 2 potatoes at idle. If oil > > is at the top of the green the pressure might even drop to 1.6 or > > so. I was considering this normal but several folks have told me > > their pressure does not drop at idle. > > What's normal?? Brian P.S. I'm using straight 100w > > > > Jerry Painter <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" > > > > > > Ron, > > > > I agree with you completely. What I am advocating is a shared, > > central > > source of information about our airplanes so that full access to > > all > > technical and operating information is readily available. RPA seems > > like a > > reasonable custodian and outlet, whether by download or purchase. > > The first > > problem, as you note, is translation of the necessary documents. For > > better > > or worse it's not gonna be the FAA "helping" us. > > > > Right now all you have to do to start up a commercial "training" > > operation > > is go to the EAA website and obtain a certificate from them (EAA). > > Hey, > > I've got one myself. Great idea for "real" training in an > > Experimental > > airplane, but there's always someone...and the rest of us will pay > > when the > > doo hits the doorknob. > > > > We DO NOT want to wait until someone gets killed, especially if they > > are > > civilians on the ground or innocents who've paid for a thrill ride. > > That > > will only place us square in the news media and FAA crosshairs. > > We've been > > through that with the F-86 incident 35 years ago. Once is enough. > > > > Assuring "airworthiness" (small "a") and proper maintenance seems > > like a > > good place to start. Hair on fire and smokin' holes is great > > Hollywood, but > > poor reality, especially if you have to pay the bill. Of course, you > > can > > get killed straight and level, too. > > > > Jerry Painter > > > > > > =09 > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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