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1. 12:25 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
2. 08:31 AM - Re: Clean kit (Barry Hancock)
3. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Clean kit (Jon Boede)
4. 11:18 AM - [ Phil Salter ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
5. 11:26 AM - [ Ernie Martinez ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
6. 12:52 PM - DolfinAero (Jim Bowerman)
7. 03:02 PM - Re: DolfinAero (Doug Sapp)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com
Dear Lister,
Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
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Yak-List Usage Guidelines
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> I don't know if this would help in the case
> of in-flight valve closure or hand starting where the start solenoid
> is not
> as important.
<sigh> here we go again. You will get guys that will scream that you
are adding another point of failure to the system. In theory, anyway,
this is true. However, as a matter of practical application these
valves (at least the one's that Bill Blackwell installs) are off of
military aircraft. They fail to the open position and are built like a
Sherman Tank. The knife valve is directly driven by gears and having a
shear type failure of the metal that would cause a "false open"
indication is, well.....your chances of that happening are about on par
with pulling the wings off of a T-34 in straight and level flight.
There are dozens and dozens of these things installed in CJ's without
any unit failures (not to mention the 10's of thousands installed in
military applications). The internal shutoff ball valve is adequate
*if* you constantly clean it and *if* you fly several times a week...if
it was otherwise doing the job there wouldn't be so many of us going to
the tank shut off valve...FWIW, even Vladimir Yastremski is a proponent
of the oil tank shutoff.
As per your concern above, even in hand starting you depress the start
button, which is disabled unless the micro switch on the OPEN side of
the valve is engaged.
Every system has it's own risks. For me, the risks are virtually
non-existent and the benefits (saves oil, keeps the hangar floor clean,
lessens the chance of hydraulic lock, etc.) are significant. As our
good friend Mr. Lloyd says, YMMV.
Barry
Barry Hancock
President/CEO
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
1-866-L39-JETS
cell (949) 300-5510
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
www.sharedsquadrons.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
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> As our good friend Mr. Lloyd says, YMMV.
YMMV? Your Marvel May Vary?
Jon
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| Subject: | [ Phil Salter ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Phil Salter <PSalter@aol.com>
Lists: Yak-List
Subject: Weight and Balance for Yak 52
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| Subject: | [ Ernie Martinez ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bowerman" <jbowerman@fastspot.net>
Has anyone had any dealings with Dolfin Aero? Since selling my Yak 52 I
have been looking at getting back into it. The prices out of the eastern
countries look good, but I don=92t know how to do business =93safely=94 over
there. Any suggestions?
Jim Bowerman
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Jim,
Everyone knows the guys that are experts in the field of successfully
importing foreign aircraft, they make their living at it, and have paid
their dues over the years in deals gone bad and money lost. They have
winnowed down the list of foreign players to a scant few that are
trustworthy, men who do what they say they are going to do. These names are
jealously guarded and for good reason. If you had spent the past 10 to 20
years importing foreign aircraft, cultivating associations with foreign
vendors, would you cheerfully pass that information on to others so they
could compete with you and possible make it harder for you to make a living?
I think if you honestly ask yourself this question you will come up with the
correct answer. The importers are a crucial part of our aviation community,
and I would encourage you to support them, at least contact them and try to
work out a deal within your price range.
Again, my advice to you would be to support the system, use a reputable US
based dealer who knows the ropes in the eastern bloc countries. Many
importers will cut you a deal if they are dealing with 100% your money up
front. I have brought in aircraft (from China) for $5K over cost, using
100% of the customers money. Look it as if it were insurance. If you go
it alone you may or may not get what you pay for, or like a guy I know of
who got nothing at all....for 50K! Right now I am strung out for 18K for
engines from Russia that it looks like I will never get. Rather I get my
money back is also looking questionable. As a importer, I have no choice
but to shrug my shoulders and remember the name of that vendor, it's part of
the cost of doing business in a foreign country. If you want his name I'll
be happy to give it to you ;>)
Go with the guys that do it for a living, support the system, everybody wins
that way.
By the way, At this time I do not import Yak 52's, only CJ6's and CJ5's and
parts for the same. If you need a list of Yak 52 importers I'll be more
than happy to give you what I have.
Good luck.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Bowerman
Subject: Yak-List: DolfinAero
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bowerman" <jbowerman@fastspot.net>
Has anyone had any dealings with Dolfin Aero? Since selling my Yak 52 I
have been looking at getting back into it. The prices out of the eastern
countries look good, but I don=92t know how to do business =93safely=94 over
there. Any suggestions?
Jim Bowerman
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