Yak-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/23/05


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:18 AM - wet wings (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
     2. 06:54 AM - Re: wet wings (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 08:51 AM - Re: Fuel bladders on Yak 52 (yakparts@simplyweb.net)
     4. 10:33 AM - [ Herb Coussons ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
     5. 12:32 PM - Setting up an LLC (Jim Shanks)
     6. 02:29 PM - Re: Setting up an LLC (Ernest Martinez)
     7. 05:01 PM - Re: Setting up an LLC (Robert Starnes)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:18:32 AM PST US
    From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com>
    Subject: wet wings
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com> Dennis, i do know that the inner tank bays have been converted to wet wing, I dont know how succesfull but I'm sure it works well. Keep the list advised, Im sure your onto a winner. BTW, as of 3rd July there were 671 YAK 52 registered in the west. This is the reason they are getting difficult to obtain in FSU now. 1800 Made but what is the attritian? I would suggest a fair number. Then there are the ones that the military realy still need. br, mj Time: 04:27:52 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: wet wings --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Mark, I am presently working with a fuel bladder manufacturer to build a replacement for the existing metal fuel tanks only using the existing fuel bay. Although that may not seem like a practical solution to additional fuel, it really meets the overall needs of most Yak 52 owners. The initial estimate is we can gain about 25-30 liters per side, thus giving us about 1 additional hour of fuel on board. If this can be done, it will be a very popular modification since most of the Yak 52 owners have said, "If I only could get 1 more hour of fuel on board, I would be a very happy person". Flying the 52 for 2.5 hours and still have 30 minutes of fuel on board would be more than satisfactory. Dennis Best regards, Mark www.yakuk.com +44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile


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    Time: 06:54:57 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: wet wings
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Of the ones I've seen the tank bays converted to wet wing tanks, they all leak. That's the reason for pursuing a fuel bladder for the same cavity. If the bladder can fit snugly into the cavity, I see no reason why we can't get 20-30 liters additional fuel per side by just taking up the unused space. As for availability of 52's, you're right, they ARE getting harder to come by. AND the prices are going up and will keep going up because of that. Anyone selling their airplane cheap, at least in my opinion, is leaving money on the table. The 52 is clearly the best bang for the buck on the market. Heck, look at the price of Yak 50's and how they have appreciated. No question about it, attrition has consumed a fair number of airplanes. How many, I have no idea. And the Russian military will be consuming another hundred or so, thus making the good airplanes even more scarce. FWIW, Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark.j@yakuk.com> Subject: Yak-List: wet wings > --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd > <mark.j@yakuk.com> > > Dennis, i do know that the inner tank bays have been converted to wet > wing, I dont know how succesfull but I'm sure it works well. > > Keep the list advised, Im sure your onto a winner. > > BTW, as of 3rd July there were 671 YAK 52 registered in the west. This is > the reason they are getting difficult to obtain in FSU now. 1800 Made but > what is the attritian? I would suggest a fair number. Then there are the > ones that the military realy still need. > > br, mj > > Time: 04:27:52 AM PST US > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: wet wings > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > > > Mark, > I am presently working with a fuel bladder manufacturer to build a > replacement for the existing metal fuel tanks only using the existing fuel > bay. Although that may not seem like a practical solution to additional > fuel, it really meets the overall needs of most Yak 52 owners. The > initial > estimate is we can gain about 25-30 liters per side, thus giving us about > 1 > additional hour of fuel on board. If this can be done, it will be a very > popular modification since most of the Yak 52 owners have said, "If I only > could get 1 more hour of fuel on board, I would be a very happy person". > Flying the 52 for 2.5 hours and still have 30 minutes of fuel on board > would > be more than satisfactory. > Dennis > > > Best regards, Mark > www.yakuk.com > +44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile > > >


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    Time: 08:51:11 AM PST US
    From: yakparts@simplyweb.net
    Subject: Re: Fuel bladders on Yak 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: yakparts@simplyweb.net Dennis and Mark, We installed auxiliary fuel on a Yak 52 in the form of 3 rubber bladders per wing, 6 years ago. This was in addition to the main fuel tanks. As I recall the cost of the modifcation was approximately $8K and almost doubled the fuel capacity. No problems. Regards, Jill Gernetzke


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    Time: 10:33:44 AM PST US
    Subject: [ Herb Coussons ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> Lists: Yak-List Subject: New Oil Cooler for 52 TW http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/drc@wscare.com.07.23.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 12:32:27 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Shanks" <shankeroid@comcast.net>
    Subject: Setting up an LLC
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shanks" <shankeroid@comcast.net> Yaksters, Looking for anyone who has any info or experience setting up an LLC for an airplane partnership. That appears to be the way to go to limit personal liability. Would appreciate any recommendations or solutions to help administer a partnership. Currently four of us in on a CJ with a loan outstanding. The loan is in one of our names at this time. Thanks. Jim Shanks shankeroid@comcast.net


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    Time: 02:29:40 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Setting up an LLC
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Do a google search on LLC corps. You'll probably get a zillion hits. Ernie On 7/23/05, Jim Shanks <shankeroid@comcast.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shanks" <shankeroid@comcast.net> > > Yaksters, > Looking for anyone who has any info or experience setting up an LLC for an airplane partnership. That appears to be the way to go to limit personal liability. Would appreciate any recommendations or solutions to help administer a partnership. > > Currently four of us in on a CJ with a loan outstanding. The loan is in one of our names at this time. > > Thanks. > > Jim Shanks > shankeroid@comcast.net > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:01:41 PM PST US
    From: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Setting up an LLC
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> I would recommend you invest in a call to aviation attorney Alan Armstrong in Atlanta, Ga. (770-451-0313) He does a lot of work in airplane partnerships and related topics. Even if you don't use him to help set up your LLC he can give you good advice. Alan flies the japanese Kate replica that was in so many WWII movies. Tell him I sent you. -Robert Starnes __________________________________




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