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1. 12:13 AM - Re: on to the bombers (Barry Hancock)
2. 06:27 AM - Formation Ramblings (MFilucci@aol.com)
3. 06:48 AM - Yak Insurance (Scott Kirk)
4. 07:32 AM - Re: Yak Insurance - Airpower Insurance (Tom Johnson) (Mark Schrick)
5. 08:43 AM - Re: carbon (Brian Lloyd)
6. 09:45 AM - contact info Mike Walsh (MFilucci@aol.com)
7. 11:06 AM - Re: carbon (Roger Doc Kemp)
8. 11:33 AM - Re: carbon (Jim Ivey)
9. 12:36 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Jim Ivey)
10. 01:29 PM - Re: Yak Insurance - Airpower Insurance (Tom Johnson) (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
11. 01:38 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Richard Basiliere)
12. 01:50 PM - Re: Yak Insurance (belov@iac52.org)
13. 01:58 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Ernest Martinez)
14. 02:01 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Ernest Martinez)
15. 02:08 PM - Re: Yak Insurance (Rick Basiliere)
16. 02:24 PM - Re: carbon (Greg Young)
17. 02:43 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Roger Doc Kemp)
18. 02:50 PM - Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar (Roger Doc Kemp)
19. 03:09 PM - Re: Yak Insurance (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
20. 05:37 PM - OSH Photos (Craig Payne)
21. 07:39 PM - Re: OSH Photos (Roger Doc Kemp)
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Subject: | Re: on to the bombers |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On Aug 9, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> That I get to fly the B-17 a lot lately adds to the work load, but you
> know
> me, I complain little about such chores. Honest guys its hard work!
> :-} (I
> don't think they believe me).
Pappy,
Break a leg, ya old fart!
Geesh, I don't feel any less jealous, either. <sigh> OK, I take it
back, don't break a leg.... ;)-
Barry
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Subject: | Formation Ramblings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
In a message dated 8/9/2005 7:52:46 PM Central Standard Time,
cpayne@joimail.com writes:
Now we have the Yaks, and CJ's. They are manuverable, yet solid for formation
work. Slowly, we have amassed pilots, trained and sweated to get where we are
today. Our edge? If anything it is that we learn from our mistakes and keep
on improving. Flying a bit more acute also makes for interesting formations
that other groups don't do. So are we in the tent yet? Well maybe not all the way
but there is no more denying our presence.
Where do we go from here? MOTS (more of the same). An airshow formation
manual would be helpful though since airshow flying is different that straight
FAST. We use non-standard procedures and "shortcuts" where prudent. However, I
believe that a workable manual MUST be the product of cumulative input, not the
vision of just a few, but input from all parts of the formation, tail-end
Charlie included.
Craig is right, it is because of all the hard work and dedication all of you
have demonstrated that our group has been accepted into the warbird community.
Each year our mass formations continue to get better at S&F and OSH.
There is a "Chapter 7" to our formation manual, titled "Mass Formation," that
is in the works right now--if any of you have something to contribute to the
effort, please forward the material to me, off List, at mfilucci@aol.com
Regards,
Mike Filucci
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
Folks,
I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is also
an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar with
the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
approximately cost?
Thanks,
Scott
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Subject: | Yak Insurance - Airpower Insurance (Tom Johnson) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Only ONE person you should go to for your insurance: Yak 50 owner and mechanic
(good guy too!!!)
Thomas Johnson
Airpower Insurance, LLC
36 West Ocotillo Road
Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235
Tel: 602-628-2701
Fax: 623-321-5843Thomas Johnson
********************************************************************
Mark Schrick
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email schrick@pacbell.net
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Kirk
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Insurance
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
Folks,
I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is also
an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar with
the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
approximately cost?
Thanks,
Scott
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Walter Lannon wrote:
> The original silicone RTV sealants do contain acetic acid and are corrosive
> to aluminum ALLOYS. Pencil lead is extremely corrosive as well and should
> never be used as a marking device. Whether these are detrimental to pure
> aluminum or not I don''t know but that is immaterial since we are concerned
> only with alloys, mostly the 2000 series which use copper as the main
> alloying element.
Ah, OK. So what does work safely? Again, I knew that graphite was detrimental
to stainless but thought it was safe on aluminum and its alloys.
> The newer silicone sealants do not have the acedic acid aroma and may or may
> not be corrosive. I don't know but I make it standard practice to not use
> ANY unknown product in direct contact with alumiminum alloy, I first prime
> the material with De Soto Super Koropon to avoid such contact whether it is
> sealer, contact cement or any similar product.
Well, that makes sense. Use the primer as a buffer.
> How is your project coming?
Not well. Money got very tight so I decided to sell the project about 10
months ago. I couldn't get any takers so I ended up selling the engine, prop,
louvers, SS exhaust, and mounting ring to Sean Carroll to use to do an M14P
upgrade to Joe Nygard's airplane. To make a long story short, Sean refuses to
pay the rest of the money he owes me (the deal was for 1/2 up front and 1/2 on
delivery) so I am screwed. The story is a long one but the bottom line is that
Sean got the engine and prop, Joe has a flying airplane, and I *don't* have my
money.
It turns out that I didn't find out that Sean has a history of not paying his
bills in a "timely fashion" until *after* I had shipped the stuff. If some
miracle occurs and I get paid I will certainly let you know. In the mean time,
I am not going to hold my breath.
Still, things are looking up for me financially and I hope to be able to
resurrect the project later this year. I am reducing the scope of the project
for obvious reasons.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian-yak@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Subject: | contact info Mike Walsh |
--> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
If anyone has email and/or phone number contact info for Mike Walsh, of
Chino, California, please forward it to me off List at Mfilucci@aol.com
Thanks,
Mike
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
The only answer to CO is a tight fitting aviators mask and 100% 02 or a
sealed rebreathing system with a C02 scruber (soda lime). Prolonged
breathing of 100% 02 can cause supurative otis. You just have to clear your
ears frequently after you land. If I were planning on spending 30-60
minutes with my head poked up in someone's slip stream breathing exhaust
gas, I would have an 02 system installed.
Might try contacting one of the spam can manufacturers for the name of the
black tar-like sealer they use on the wing roots and firewalls around
wiring to plug the holes. The wads that are on my Piper have been there for
20 years and have not caused corrosion.
As to the dead beat bill payer, send him a formal invoice for the engine,
prop, labor, and shipping. Send it for 3 months standing. When he does not
pay up after 3 months, turn it over to the credit beaura for collections.
If he does not pay up then, it goes on his credit report. You will
eventually get your money when he tries to buy a car,a TV, or a house.
Viperdoc
Brian wrote:
> It turns out that I didn't find out that Sean has a history of not paying
his
> bills in a "timely fashion" until *after* I had shipped the stuff. If
some
> miracle occurs and I get paid I will certainly let you know. In the mean
time,
> I am not going to hold my breath.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> Ah, OK. So what does work safely? Again, I knew that graphite
> was detrimental
> to stainless but thought it was safe on aluminum and its alloys.
>
>
Graphite and aluminum are spread apart far on the galvanic chart. A pencil
mark on an aluminum part can turn into a crack years down the road. Sharpie
permanent markers work great and are safe on Aluminum. Sharpie ink can be
cleaned off later with acetone, MEK or other such solvents (good, strong and
bad for you).
I always cringe when I see A&P's marking compression readings on aluminum
baffles with pencils. Not just because it's unsightly and unnecessary with
logbook entries but because of the galvanic incompatibility. I ban pencils
from my hangar.
Jim Ivey
N46YK
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Subject: | Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at OSH he
stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P. Apparently it
is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump piston
glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt respectfully). I
use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about things.
George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
compatible with the compressor without worries.
Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air pump.
The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the snot
bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric air
compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air. It
pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty fine
for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in the
hangar.
Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to shear
it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I look
for clues to other problems?
Jim Ivey
N46YK
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Subject: | Yak Insurance - Airpower Insurance (Tom Johnson) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Concur....
After dealing with two other firms... Tom helped me out tremendously.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Schrick [mailto:schrick@pacbell.net]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Insurance - Airpower Insurance (Tom Johnson)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Only ONE person you should go to for your insurance: Yak 50 owner and
mechanic
(good guy too!!!)
Thomas Johnson
Airpower Insurance, LLC
36 West Ocotillo Road
Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235
Tel: 602-628-2701
Fax: 623-321-5843Thomas Johnson
********************************************************************
Mark Schrick
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email schrick@pacbell.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Kirk
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Insurance
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
Folks,
I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is also
an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar with
the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
approximately cost?
Thanks,
Scott
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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Subject: | Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
I had over 800 hours on my SU-29 before it went through it's first pump.
Not a common problem...I guess
Rick b
>>> jim@jimivey.com 8/10/2005 1:35:22 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at
OSH he
stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P. Apparently
it
is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump
piston
glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt
respectfully). I
use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about
things.
George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
compatible with the compressor without worries.
Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air
pump.
The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the
snot
bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric
air
compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air.
It
pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty
fine
for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in
the
hangar.
Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to
shear
it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I
look
for clues to other problems?
Jim Ivey
N46YK
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Subject: | Re: Yak Insurance |
--> Yak-List message posted by: belov@iac52.org
Ah!!! You don't need no stinking insurance. Look at Drew, he didn't have
any!!
HAHAHA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
>
> Folks,
>
> I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is
> also
> an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
> obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
> down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar
> with
> the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
> willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
> approximately cost?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
A buddy of mine has had to disassemble his compressor twice in a year
due to the poppet valve on the top of the compressor sticking. The
only notable thing is that he uses aero shell 100w rather than the
phillips.
Ernie
On 8/10/05, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
>
> I had over 800 hours on my SU-29 before it went through it's first pump.
> Not a common problem...I guess
> Rick b
>
> >>> jim@jimivey.com 8/10/2005 1:35:22 PM >>>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at
> OSH he
> stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P. Apparently
> it
> is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
> compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump
> piston
> glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
> straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt
> respectfully). I
> use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about
> things.
> George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
> compatible with the compressor without worries.
>
> Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air
> pump.
> The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the
> snot
> bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric
> air
> compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air.
> It
> pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty
> fine
> for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in
> the
> hangar.
>
> Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to
> shear
> it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I
> look
> for clues to other problems?
>
> Jim Ivey
> N46YK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I should have said "Poppet valve on top of the "Piston""
Ernie
On 8/10/05, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> A buddy of mine has had to disassemble his compressor twice in a year
> due to the poppet valve on the top of the compressor sticking. The
> only notable thing is that he uses aero shell 100w rather than the
> phillips.
>
> Ernie
>
> On 8/10/05, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> >
> > I had over 800 hours on my SU-29 before it went through it's first pump.
> > Not a common problem...I guess
> > Rick b
> >
> > >>> jim@jimivey.com 8/10/2005 1:35:22 PM >>>
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
> >
> > Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at
> > OSH he
> > stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P. Apparently
> > it
> > is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
> > compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump
> > piston
> > glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
> > straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt
> > respectfully). I
> > use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about
> > things.
> > George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
> > compatible with the compressor without worries.
> >
> > Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air
> > pump.
> > The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the
> > snot
> > bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric
> > air
> > compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air.
> > It
> > pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty
> > fine
> > for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in
> > the
> > hangar.
> >
> > Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to
> > shear
> > it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I
> > look
> > for clues to other problems?
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> > N46YK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Subject: | Re: Yak Insurance |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
I pay about a grand a year for my -55 @60K hull through Falcon - the one advanced
by the IAC. Just FYI...is there any better $ out there?
Rick b
-----Original Message-----
From: belov@iac52.org
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Insurance
--> Yak-List message posted by: belov@iac52.org
Ah!!! You don't need no stinking insurance. Look at Drew, he didn't have
any!!
HAHAHA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
>
> Folks,
>
> I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is
> also
> an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
> obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
> down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar
> with
> the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
> willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
> approximately cost?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Sharpies are the homebuilders choice for marking aluminum. I buy em by the box.
Beware that they will bleed thru both primer and top coats so remove markings
with anything from denatured alcohol to MEK before painting.
I wouldn't sweat the acedic acid in RTV either. It will serve to etch the surface
to promote adhesion. We use it on RV's in the elevator trailing edge. No worse
that self etching primers which contain phosphoric acid.
Regards,
Greg Young
________________________________
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Walter Lannon wrote:
> The original silicone RTV sealants do contain acetic acid and are corrosive
> to aluminum ALLOYS. Pencil lead is extremely corrosive as well and should
> never be used as a marking device. Whether these are detrimental to pure
> aluminum or not I don''t know but that is immaterial since we are concerned
> only with alloys, mostly the 2000 series which use copper as the main
> alloying element.
Ah, OK. So what does work safely? Again, I knew that graphite was detrimental
to stainless but thought it was safe on aluminum and its alloys.
> The newer silicone sealants do not have the acedic acid aroma and may or may
> not be corrosive. I don't know but I make it standard practice to not use
> ANY unknown product in direct contact with alumiminum alloy, I first prime
> the material with De Soto Super Koropon to avoid such contact whether it is
> sealer, contact cement or any similar product.
Well, that makes sense. Use the primer as a buffer.
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Subject: | Re: Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Well....Just...POPPET it All!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/10/2005 4:01:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oshkosh M14P seminar
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> I should have said "Poppet valve on top of the "Piston""
>
> Ernie
>
> On 8/10/05, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A buddy of mine has had to disassemble his compressor twice in a year
> > due to the poppet valve on the top of the compressor sticking. The
> > only notable thing is that he uses aero shell 100w rather than the
> > phillips.
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> > On 8/10/05, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
<BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> > >
> > > I had over 800 hours on my SU-29 before it went through it's first
pump.
> > > Not a common problem...I guess
> > > Rick b
> > >
> > > >>> jim@jimivey.com 8/10/2005 1:35:22 PM >>>
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
> > >
> > > Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at
> > > OSH he
> > > stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P.
Apparently
> > > it
> > > is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
> > > compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump
> > > piston
> > > glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
> > > straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt
> > > respectfully). I
> > > use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about
> > > things.
> > > George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
> > > compatible with the compressor without worries.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air
> > > pump.
> > > The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the
> > > snot
> > > bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric
> > > air
> > > compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air.
> > > It
> > > pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty
> > > fine
> > > for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in
> > > the
> > > hangar.
> > >
> > > Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to
> > > shear
> > > it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I
> > > look
> > > for clues to other problems?
> > >
> > > Jim Ivey
> > > N46YK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Oshkosh M14P seminar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Shearing of the compressor shaft is generally associated with the engine
running backwards after shutdown. That is usually due to not "scavaging"
the engine before shutting down. IE: running the %RPM up to 70% for 30 sec.
and slowly pulling back to idle shut off. The Russian manual says to close
the fuel shut off valve when the power is reduced to idle.
Next question? Was it the compressor shear pin that let go or was it the
push rod in the compressor?
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/10/2005 2:35:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oshkosh M14P seminar
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> Talk about coincidence. Upon attending George Coy's M14P seminar at OSH
he
> stated that Aeroshell 15W-50 is incompatible with the M14P. Apparently it
> is the only oil he has encountered that ruins the engine pneumatic
> compressor within about 2 hours of flight time. Apparently the pump
piston
> glazes against the cylinder when in contact with 15W-50. George uses
> straight-weight AD Aeroshell (W100 or W160, 50wt and 60wt respectfully).
I
> use the same stuff he does and so was feeling pretty good about things.
> George said most other types of oils being used by M14 folks were also
> compatible with the compressor without worries.
>
> Wouldn't you know over Kansas on the way home from OSH I lost my air pump.
> The engine only has 200 hours on it but no more air charging and the snot
> bottle is completely depressurized. Thanks to my on-board electric air
> compressor I was able to complete the flight without wanting for air. It
> pumps at about 60% the rate of the engine compressor, which is plenty fine
> for topping off the system. Won't fly it until fixed now that it's in the
> hangar.
>
> Anybody know what typically causes the engine-driven compressor to shear
> it's shaft? Is this just a common part of M14P operations or should I
look
> for clues to other problems?
>
> Jim Ivey
> N46YK
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
That is a VERY good price.
When I had "zero" hours in my YAK-50 and only 100 in tail draggers total...
I paid $2600. YIKES.
I now have 600 hours in tail draggers and am still paying over $1600.
You're doing well.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Basiliere [mailto:discrab@earthlink.net]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Insurance
--> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
I pay about a grand a year for my -55 @60K hull through Falcon - the one
advanced by the IAC. Just FYI...is there any better $ out there?
Rick b
-----Original Message-----
From: belov@iac52.org
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Insurance
--> Yak-List message posted by: belov@iac52.org
Ah!!! You don't need no stinking insurance. Look at Drew, he didn't have
any!!
HAHAHA
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
>
> Folks,
>
> I think from past posts there was/is someone on the Yak list who was/is
> also
> an insurance rep. and knowledgeable in Yak's and insurance and capable of
> obtaining reasonable quotes. Insurance will be expiring in a few months
> down the road and I would like to use an agent who is at least familiar
> with
> the aircraft. Anybody have contact info for such a person? Also, anybody
> willing to share (offline is fine) roughly what a Yak-55 insurance should
> approximately cost?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Come on guys, share those great formation photos I saw at Oshkosh on the Matronics
Photoshare site for everyone to see.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Craig,
I believe I have seen some 100 photos on the matronics photoshare of OSH.
Or maybe I was hallucinating. That is possible lately with the way my
schedule had degraded to dog shiza (sp)! The Burger King mentality in
Medicine is BS!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com>
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/10/2005 7:36:52 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: OSH Photos
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>
> Come on guys, share those great formation photos I saw at Oshkosh on the
Matronics Photoshare site for everyone to see.
>
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
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