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1. 03:28 PM - Wilmington, NC (ByronMFox@aol.com)
2. 04:35 PM - Re: CO in cockpit (Phil Cogan)
3. 05:58 PM - OSH Photos? (Craig Payne)
4. 08:00 PM - Carbon monoxide poisoning (Frank Haertlein)
5. 08:15 PM - GPS deal (Frank Haertlein)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Any Yakkers in the Wilmington, NC area? ...Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Phil Cogan" <zeromold@earthlink.net>
Here's my experience with cockpit CO levels.
Last Saturday we did a flyby for Rob Mortara's wedding. In the cockpit I had
the Lumidor MiniMax Pro CO detector. The alarm was set at 45ppm CO (safe
levels may be as high as 35 to 50 ppm according to OSHA). The alarm was
going for the entire 40 minute flight! Max levels were recording after
turning on the smoke system and reached 190ppm, almost 4 times the maximum
safe level!
We need to find ways to cut down on CO entering the cockpit or getting some
type of independent air system for when we fly.
Any suggestions?
Phil Cogan
admin@neraiders.org
N21740
CJ-6A
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson
Subject: Yak-List: CO in cockpit
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tomjohnson@cox.net>
I too have experienced CO in cockpit.
In my 52 returning from ARS 2004.
And don't bother buying a CO detector (IMHO, YMMV).
I bought an expensive detector with a digital readout of CO in PPM.
The readings were "redlined" all the time.
There is no question "if" we all have too much CO in cockpit, we do.
EXHAUST:
T-band clamps make for great clamps. Good looking, sturdy, inexpensive.
Try McMaster Carr or similar.
I experimented with the hi-temp exhaust wrap tape.
But I found it degraded over time. Perhaps there is a higher temp version
of this same product.
It did provide excellent sealing properties.
There is no one single cure to this dangerous problem.
Single exposure to very hi levels?
Repeated exposure to low levels (ARS, OSH type fly-ins).. .
The results are the same.
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Thomas Johnson
Airpower Insurance, LLC
36 West Ocotillo Road
Phoenix, AZ 85013-1235
Tel: 602-628-2701
Fax: 623-321-5843
E: tomjohnson@cox.net
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
It's hard to fly the airshow and take pictures of our formations from the ground...at
the same time. I'm still looking for photos taken this year as well as
any pics of the B-17 missing man formation. I need these for backgrounds upon
which to work my photo edit magic :)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Carbon monoxide poisoning |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Phil
I don't want to sound alarmist here but I decided to take steps to reduce
exhaust fumes coming in my 52 after I noticed my voice getting hoarse soon
after flying. I live out north of Edwards AFB so anyone who knows the area
also knows there's good flying here almost year round. I do ALLOT of flying
because of it (almost every weekend and weekdays off and on). It's at the
point where I even stopped using MMO until I figure out a way to seal the
fuselage. I think it was Mark who warned about using toxic oils for smoke or
even in your fuel. Look at this post as a warning to not use 2 stroke oils
or any other toxic oils in your fuel or smoke system.
My last posting to the list was to ask Doc if he knew of what one might
physically experience with prolonged contact to carbon monoxide. Someone
mentioned a euphoric feeling but I don't buy that because I get that just
from flying :) But there have been occasions during our $100 hamburger
flights were I thought I might have gotten food poisoning. Now I'm starting
to think it may have been carbon monoxide.
In efforts to seal the cockpit my next step is going to entail making little
"booties" that seal up the aileron control rods and the flap operating rods
where they exit the fuselage. Anyone happen to make these or sell them?
Best Regards
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Though some of you might be looking for a deal on a NEW Garmin 295 GPS. Gulf
Coast is selling em' for only $649. That's a far cry from the almost $1400 I
paid when they first came out.
Here's the link http://www.gulf-coast-avionics.com/detail.asp?id=3934
Regards
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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