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1. 12:48 AM - Re: RPA Stuff & Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning Exercise (fish@aviation-tech.com)
2. 03:43 AM - Re: 27 great iPhotos (Craig Payne)
3. 03:52 AM - Re: Re: Hurricane (Craig Payne)
4. 04:02 AM - Re: Hurricane (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:57 AM - Hurricane (MICHAEL ROEHR)
6. 06:08 AM - Re: Hurricane (cjpilot710@aol.com)
7. 06:18 AM - Re: Tank (ron wasson)
8. 06:30 AM - Re: fuel tank advice (Jim Bernier)
9. 06:48 AM - Re: RPA Stuff & Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning Exercise (Roger Doc Kemp)
10. 07:24 AM - Re: Hurricane (A. Dennis Savarese)
11. 11:04 AM - yak 55 seat modification (Dr Andre Katz)
12. 11:40 AM - Re: yak 55 seat modification (Walt Fricke)
13. 12:01 PM - Re: yak 55 seat modification (Walt Fricke)
14. 12:04 PM - Re: yak 55 seat modification (Richard Basiliere)
15. 12:16 PM - Ausi comrade lost. (Doug Sapp)
16. 01:08 PM - RPA Forums (Drew Blahnick)
17. 01:12 PM - Re: yak 55 seat modification (Dr Andre Katz)
18. 05:48 PM - Re: Ausi comrade lost. (Steve Newing)
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| Subject: | Re: RPA Stuff & Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning |
Exercise
--> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com
Drew,
I would like to purpose the exercise be called Blue Flag. The Air Force uses
Red Flag for a similar exercise, only designed with opposing Red forces.
Since we are flying Red forces aircraft, we should call our exercise Blue Flag.
We could also add the name anywhere we conduct the exercise: Blue Flag, Palm
Springs; Blue Flag, Florida; Blue Flag, Utah; Ect, Etc, Etc. . . .
Fly Safe
John Fischer
Yak-52, N123YA
California City, CA
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Folks,
>
>Just back from AA transition training to the B737 which if anyone cares, although
less pay than my last iron horse, somehow I see the increase in seniority as
a step closer to that home, hangar and aero-plane. And since I'm on the subject,
lets once again hope for a soon to be realized end to this Iraqi mess as I read
the daily casualty reports in the USA Today while in the AA cafeteria waiting
on a sim,
>
>Lets talk RPA and flying:
>
>(as I will mention in this letter, email me your questions off list, I don't
monitor close enough all the time)
>
>Newsletters, Hangar Talk Bulletins and RPA Notams: If you aren't an RPA member,
you won't get these, and the subject matter comes from you guys, so join up
- I have some excellent subject matter coming out based on RPA members inputs.
>
>TFPR: - I get wordy here, if your not interested in this subject, skip to the
next...
>
>Transitional FPR (TFPR): Do you know what this program is all about? It started
over a year ago because we discussed how to handle FAST carded folks from other
signatories "switching" over to the RPA, or even RPA folks who were recommended
and checked (i.e. trained) outside the RPA ; and wanting the RPA FAST card with
no real exposure to the organization. Our goal was to insure these folks who
would show up and fly with YOU were standardized with our program, singing from
the same sheet of music if you
> (precious cargo) as far as I'm concerned, so if there is a way to insure your
safety without limiting your ability to have a good time, I will look at it.
But the Transitional FPR program is miss-understood in & out of the RPA, it
also falls short, well short, of what I would like to see it accomplish. The
reality is folks (RPA or not) who are not "wired in" to the events and RPA activities
have a lot of questions about everything from flight suit policy to where to
find the website...So even beyond the
> s is
> untrue. So I am discussing with the board my plan to change the current Transitional
FPR form and program to a "Familiarization Hop" or FAM (as some will recognize
from their military squadrons). The idea is our RPA FAST pilots will help transitional
members by reviewing our flight procedures and giving them the knowledge they
need (like where to find the FF&P, whats expected from an RPA lead, how to join
the association online, why we wear flight suits and XXX signatory does not,
etc.) and again to fly
> the
> transitioning member was fully current, it had the capability to update their
currency as a standard FPR), while this tool may remain in place, I'm open to
the idea of a FAM-1 (lead) and FAM-2 (wing) hop, where RPA wing pilots can administer
the FAM-2 to other signatory wing pilots wanting to transition to the RPA. FAST
Leads manage the FAST program through recommendations, currency and training,
this concept gives the RPA wing rated pilots a role in helping maintain the
RPA fast program, and doing so, in
> ts with
> complete strangers and fly formation safely; I'm sure you can appreciate that
goal. If I've confused you, don't sweat it, the downloadable form in the formation
section of the website will be crystal clear I promise.
>
>Trail: I have received recent email on both close trail and extendid trail.
Please email me directly off list, I do not monitor the list well. If you
are actively flying in a local group, let me know what interval you are flying
extendid trail at, I want your groups opinion, not the book answer. I would
like to know the distance (bubble) you are either briefing or folks are flying
and any reasoning behind it. I also want to know if your groups are briefing
hard decks or manuever limits in your ET. Op
>
>Check Pilots: We have two "home grown" pilots currently walking the plank
to become checkpilots in the coming months for our national-regional program;
Kilo who resides in OK. and flys a CJ, serves both the SC and NC regions (he
also travels beyond these regions for events) and Ski who is all but moved to
TX and will help our greatly in the SC and travels beyond as well in his Yak-52TW.
Of the active checkpilots, those who have a record of event attendance in the
RPA during the last few years, including
>
>Formation Waivers: I received a few emails on this. The philosophy I've always
applied is this; the waiver must be to benefit the national-regional FAST program,
and thus the membership in large, not the individuals personal desires. To
consider a waiver at this time it has to meet and or satisfy a recognizable
and critical need of the national-regional program. That applies to me and
everyone. Any questions please email me directly.
>
>The Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning Exercise in the California
Desert is a potentially great program that stresses flight discipline, mission
planning, professional communications, formation skills and is just plain fun
under 4 gs. The problem is the name is too damn long; send me a name for this
event, the guy or gal who wins gets a zero-comp balance on any fees for 2006.
We're talking about a name fit for the public domain by the way ;)
>
>As you know, we had a RPAer who recently was killed in a low altitude aerobatics
accident in his Yak-52. Like every loss in aviation, its crushing, totally
unexpected, and a slap in the face that repeats and repeats for those who expect
to see their faces everyday. We are more than just a FAST signatory; every
aspect of general aviation, recreational and demonstration flight envelopes
are exercised by our members and this community; and aviators have met tradgedy
in every one of them - it's a reality of
>
>Its up to you,
>
>fly as often as you can afford the gas, and fly safe
>
>Drew Blahnick
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 27 great iPhotos |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Herb,
The Matronics server strips all attachments. You will have to send to pictures@matronics.com
with "yak-list" included on the subject line. See instructions on
the share site.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Hurricane |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Doc and anyone else in high wind areas,
There's always a next time...especially if you live here in FLA. Sliding hanger
doors were pinned with 1/2" by 12" galvanized spikes. Drill through the door
bottom and then use a 5/8" masonry bit to sink holes deep down into the concrete.
Tiedowns went into the floor with 1/2" lead anchors. For bifold doors, the
wing tiedowns were positioned to also attach wire cable to hinge line so the
door wouldn't be sucked outward.
BTW, group hangers are the worst, when the door goes, all the airplanes stack up
in a pile in the rear, hence the tiedowns and turnbuckles/cables on the doors.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
My prayers are with them Doc.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hurricane
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Wish I had this info before tonight. It is alittle late now. Montgomery
> should not see it as bad as those poor folks in So. Al, Ms,and LA. This is
> going to be a bitch! My aunt and uncle are staying in NO because he is in
> the Hospital there and could be moved. I am afraid they are not going to
> be in to good shape in 12 hours. Their home is in the historic district
> and is close to the old grave yard. It is about 5 blocks from the
> Mississippi River. This is not going to be good for them. Say a prayer for
> all those in the path. I am.
> Doc
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 8:16 PM, Craig Payne wrote:
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> >
>> > That's Hurricane Katrina, not the British fighter. You guys in the way
>> > get the hell out or buckle down them hanger doors. Last season we sunk
>> > tiedowns for all the hangers right through the floor, tying down inside
>> > the hangers and double pinning the doors to the hanger floor. All
>> > hangers survived having the eye of Charlie and Jeanne pass over the
>> > airport. Some roofs were missing though, water damage, etc.
>> >
>> > Hope this dosn't mess up too many lives but I'm afraid it will.
>> >
>> >
>> > Craig Payne
>> > cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "MICHAEL ROEHR" <beach@digitalexp.com>
Sitting here on St George Island, FL, watching the waves, hoping that we won't
be swimming under the house like we were with Dennis (hurricane not Savarese).
The hangar at Apalachicola is the safe place - all but one of the vehicles are
there. Flying has been almost nonexistent this summer with many days of pumping
water off of the property and house and grounds repairs - plus still working
for a living. Good luck to all of our Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama
members. Yak N52YW
MICHAEL ROEHR
beach@digitalexp.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Dennis,
Looks like you're going to get a good bit of Ms K. Becareful friend.
Pappy
-----Original Message-----
From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
My prayers are with them Doc.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hurricane
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Wish I had this info before tonight. It is alittle late now. Montgomery
> should not see it as bad as those poor folks in So. Al, Ms,and LA. This is
> going to be a bitch! My aunt and uncle are staying in NO because he is in
> the Hospital there and could be moved. I am afraid they are not going to
> be in to good shape in 12 hours. Their home is in the historic district
> and is close to the old grave yard. It is about 5 blocks from the
> Mississippi River. This is not going to be good for them. Say a prayer for
> all those in the path. I am.
> Doc
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 8:16 PM, Craig Payne wrote:
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> >
>> > That's Hurricane Katrina, not the British fighter. You guys in the way
>> > get the hell out or buckle down them hanger doors. Last season we sunk
>> > tiedowns for all the hangers right through the floor, tying down inside
>> > the hangers and double pinning the doors to the hanger floor. All
>> > hangers survived having the eye of Charlie and Jeanne pass over the
>> > airport. Some roofs were missing though, water damage, etc.
>> >
>> > Hope this dosn't mess up too many lives but I'm afraid it will.
>> >
>> >
>> > Craig Payne
>> > cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Thanks
The tank is kevlar and very strong during crash
fuel foam for the baffles/ leak control
tip over fuel valve outlet on top of tank / will feed tank only level
I plan on X/C only for the tank with no G at all/ empty for landing
Tank will be out most of the time
14.5 x 10.5 x 33 is 22gals minus foam
battery / inverter next to the tank is my main worry
fuel cap outside a/c for spill control
thanks for the battery vent statement. I was worried it would siphon
stainless bulkhead for a baggage bay will be added to screen tank but
flight control cable area is still open
AA a/c structures engineer is coming to load rate the rack.
ron wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
On Aug 28, 2005, at 11:13 PM, <tryon@aviator.org> <tryon@aviator.org>
wrote:
> Hey Ron,,
>
> Sounds like an interresting idea.. Should work, but 21 gal,
> sounds awful big to go back there? Can you get a tank of that
> capacity through the Side panel hole? You might need to make some
> upper fuselage supports to tie the avionics shelf together in the
> back also.. in ours the farthest aft bulkhead support is more thin
> tha the one fwd of it. In my application I was worried about excess
> weight on it.. Read on..
>
>
> We made a smoke tank similar to your idea and put it back there,
> with also an installed scuba bottle, for emergency recharge air if
> your stuck somewhere. About the weight.. Our rack is made on the
> old avionics shelf, that holds the scuba bottle.. It slides right
> out the side oval panel when unclamped. The smoke tank is built on
> 4 legs and a shelf above the scuba bottle. This was the problem..
> Too much weight for the Avionics Rack.. Scuba Bottle filled is
> about 50 lbs.. the tank and rack empty was 15 lbs and holds 8 gal
> of smoke oil,, about 50 lbs or so.. I guess. I was worried about G
> loading with all that weight back there.. So on the back of the
> smoke tank shelf I riveted a horizontal brace and added two
> vertical braces at angles up to the fuselage rib. This tied the
> upper and lower together but left the scuba bottle and smoke tank
> only bolted to a shelf an rack. (not part of the structure.)
> Its sort of the same design that holds the old compass back in the
> upper R tail area, only larger in scale. and attached to the lower
> shelf support.
>
> Important though not to make the tank part of the structure.. Make
> the structure, then attach the tank.. so that any stress or
> movement G-loading, etc/ doesn't fracture the tank..
>
> My 8 gal smoke tank wouldn't fit through the side hole, but ours
> has a panel thats removable behind the back seat in the luggage
> area.. I went in there with it.. But it's not made to come out
> easily..
>
> I used the same battery drain for the vent, and just made a high
> loop.. Works good.. Used the old filler panel for the filler neck
> access, though I made a new flat panel with a couple of Dzus
> fasteners instead of the fuel cap panel..
>
> As for the fuel lines, it may just be easier to add a single fuel
> feed line into the header tank and have a selector valve and cable
> to feed from that tank also? Should gravity feed fine.. Just a
> thought? Not sure what it would involve to add plumbing out to the
> wing tanks.
>
> Ok, just my 2 cents,, goodluck,, interresting idea.
>
> R Wilson.. A&P
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank advice |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Ron,
I thought of doing the same thing. I have another air fill access door and mount
that I was going to use as my fuel fill. This would allow a flush mount and
very clean looking. A friend of mine is concern about fumes and the potential
for explosion as my inventors are mounted on the battery rack. If the area is
vented, then that would decrease your chance of an on board fire. (As long as
we are using gas anywhere we run the risk of fire.)
Venting. I wanted to pull air out of this area. In front of the vertical there
is a fairing. This fairing is attached with two screws about half way up the front.
If a gap was formed in this area by placing a nut or washers to hold the
area open then you would get the drafting of air from inside the fuselage. I
planned on leaving the tank in place. The added weight empty would pose no problem.
Please let me know how this works out. I plan to do the same thing in the near
future. Sounds like a good system.
Jim B
>>> ronwasson@mindspring.com 08/27/05 5:26 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
I am making a aux tank for a CJ 6 and want some advice. A
good friend is a composite guy for a living will make the tank. Plan
on using the radio bay rack area. Tank would slide in the rack area
from the side panel just like the radios used too. Size would be as
big as the side panel hole, 14.5 x 10 x 33. Holding the 21 gal
tank would be the ridge in the back that the rack used , pin thru the
fitting on the tank like the rack used, and the outside wall of the
tank would be have 12 screws holding it to the fuselage The side
wall of the tank would be flared out 3 inches on the fuselage. The
gas cap would be on top. Any gas spill would be outside the fuselage.
Drag in the coke bottle area should be low from advice of a aero
engineer. The vent would go to the battery vent tube that is not used
with a sealed battery. Two 28 volt fuel pumps will be mounted on the
back of the tank. They will have quick disconnect hoses and
electrical. Access to the hoses / elec would be thru the left battery
access panel. Tank should slide out and the old panel replaced in ten
minutes. Only mod to the airplane would be hoses from the tank to
each main tank and two power switches/ harness for the pumps. CG
looks good and it leaves space for baggage behind the copilot.
battery and inverter are untouched.
My question to all is there any reason this won't work. Cost
will be under 1000 dollars . The key seems to be a custom tank to
make the most of the radio rack area with out mod to the airplane.
Most of the time the tank would only be in during X/C.
ron wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
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| Subject: | Re: RPA Stuff & Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning |
Exercise
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Doc Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Simple and not bad. KISS.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: <fish@aviation-tech.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/29/2005 2:48:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: RPA Stuff & Desert Tactical Flying and Combat
Mission Planning Exercise
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com
>
> Drew,
>
> I would like to purpose the exercise be called Blue Flag. The Air Force
uses
> Red Flag for a similar exercise, only designed with opposing Red forces.
>
> Since we are flying Red forces aircraft, we should call our exercise Blue
Flag.
> We could also add the name anywhere we conduct the exercise: Blue Flag,
Palm
> Springs; Blue Flag, Florida; Blue Flag, Utah; Ect, Etc, Etc. . . .
>
> Fly Safe
> John Fischer
> Yak-52, N123YA
> California City, CA
>
>
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >Just back from AA transition training to the B737 which if anyone cares,
although
> less pay than my last iron horse, somehow I see the increase in seniority
as
> a step closer to that home, hangar and aero-plane. And since I'm on the
subject,
> lets once again hope for a soon to be realized end to this Iraqi mess as
I read
> the daily casualty reports in the USA Today while in the AA cafeteria
waiting
> on a sim,
> >
> >Lets talk RPA and flying:
> >
> >(as I will mention in this letter, email me your questions off list, I
don't
> monitor close enough all the time)
> >
> >Newsletters, Hangar Talk Bulletins and RPA Notams: If you aren't an RPA
member,
> you won't get these, and the subject matter comes from you guys, so join
up
> - I have some excellent subject matter coming out based on RPA members
inputs.
>
> >
> >TFPR: - I get wordy here, if your not interested in this subject, skip
to the
> next...
> >
> >Transitional FPR (TFPR): Do you know what this program is all about?
It started
> over a year ago because we discussed how to handle FAST carded folks from
other
> signatories "switching" over to the RPA, or even RPA folks who were
recommended
> and checked (i.e. trained) outside the RPA ; and wanting the RPA FAST
card with
> no real exposure to the organization. Our goal was to insure these folks
who
> would show up and fly with YOU were standardized with our program,
singing from
> the same sheet of music if you
> > (precious cargo) as far as I'm concerned, so if there is a way to
insure your
> safety without limiting your ability to have a good time, I will look at
it.
> But the Transitional FPR program is miss-understood in & out of the RPA,
it
> also falls short, well short, of what I would like to see it accomplish.
The
> reality is folks (RPA or not) who are not "wired in" to the events and
RPA activities
> have a lot of questions about everything from flight suit policy to where
to
> find the website...So even beyond the
> > s is
> > untrue. So I am discussing with the board my plan to change the
current Transitional
> FPR form and program to a "Familiarization Hop" or FAM (as some will
recognize
> from their military squadrons). The idea is our RPA FAST pilots will
help transitional
> members by reviewing our flight procedures and giving them the knowledge
they
> need (like where to find the FF&P, whats expected from an RPA lead, how
to join
> the association online, why we wear flight suits and XXX signatory does
not,
> etc.) and again to fly
> > the
> > transitioning member was fully current, it had the capability to update
their
> currency as a standard FPR), while this tool may remain in place, I'm
open to
> the idea of a FAM-1 (lead) and FAM-2 (wing) hop, where RPA wing pilots
can administer
> the FAM-2 to other signatory wing pilots wanting to transition to the
RPA. FAST
> Leads manage the FAST program through recommendations, currency and
training,
> this concept gives the RPA wing rated pilots a role in helping maintain
the
> RPA fast program, and doing so, in
> > ts with
> > complete strangers and fly formation safely; I'm sure you can
appreciate that
> goal. If I've confused you, don't sweat it, the downloadable form in the
formation
> section of the website will be crystal clear I promise.
> >
> >Trail: I have received recent email on both close trail and extendid
trail.
> Please email me directly off list, I do not monitor the list well. If
you
> are actively flying in a local group, let me know what interval you are
flying
> extendid trail at, I want your groups opinion, not the book answer. I
would
> like to know the distance (bubble) you are either briefing or folks are
flying
> and any reasoning behind it. I also want to know if your groups are
briefing
> hard decks or manuever limits in your ET. Op
> >
> >Check Pilots: We have two "home grown" pilots currently walking the
plank
> to become checkpilots in the coming months for our national-regional
program;
> Kilo who resides in OK. and flys a CJ, serves both the SC and NC regions
(he
> also travels beyond these regions for events) and Ski who is all but
moved to
> TX and will help our greatly in the SC and travels beyond as well in his
Yak-52TW.
> Of the active checkpilots, those who have a record of event attendance
in the
> RPA during the last few years, including
> >
> >Formation Waivers: I received a few emails on this. The philosophy
I've always
> applied is this; the waiver must be to benefit the national-regional FAST
program,
> and thus the membership in large, not the individuals personal desires.
To
> consider a waiver at this time it has to meet and or satisfy a
recognizable
> and critical need of the national-regional program. That applies to me
and
> everyone. Any questions please email me directly.
> >
> >The Desert Tactical Flying and Combat Mission Planning Exercise in the
California
> Desert is a potentially great program that stresses flight discipline,
mission
> planning, professional communications, formation skills and is just plain
fun
> under 4 gs. The problem is the name is too damn long; send me a name for
this
> event, the guy or gal who wins gets a zero-comp balance on any fees for
2006.
> We're talking about a name fit for the public domain by the way ;)
> >
> >As you know, we had a RPAer who recently was killed in a low altitude
aerobatics
> accident in his Yak-52. Like every loss in aviation, its crushing,
totally
> unexpected, and a slap in the face that repeats and repeats for those who
expect
> to see their faces everyday. We are more than just a FAST signatory;
every
> aspect of general aviation, recreational and demonstration flight
envelopes
> are exercised by our members and this community; and aviators have met
tradgedy
> in every one of them - it's a reality of
> >
> >Its up to you,
> >
> >fly as often as you can afford the gas, and fly safe
> >
> >Drew Blahnick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Thanks Pappy. I appreciate your thoughts.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> Dennis,
> Looks like you're going to get a good bit of Ms K. Becareful friend.
> Pappy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> My prayers are with them Doc.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
> To: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>; "yak-list"
> <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hurricane
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>>
>> Wish I had this info before tonight. It is alittle late now. Montgomery
>> should not see it as bad as those poor folks in So. Al, Ms,and LA. This
>> is
>> going to be a bitch! My aunt and uncle are staying in NO because he is in
>> the Hospital there and could be moved. I am afraid they are not going to
>> be in to good shape in 12 hours. Their home is in the historic district
>> and is close to the old grave yard. It is about 5 blocks from the
>> Mississippi River. This is not going to be good for them. Say a prayer
>> for
>> all those in the path. I am.
>> Doc
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 8:16 PM, Craig Payne wrote:
>>
>>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>>> >
>>> > That's Hurricane Katrina, not the British fighter. You guys in the way
>>> > get the hell out or buckle down them hanger doors. Last season we sunk
>>> > tiedowns for all the hangers right through the floor, tying down
>>> > inside
>>> > the hangers and double pinning the doors to the hanger floor. All
>>> > hangers survived having the eye of Charlie and Jeanne pass over the
>>> > airport. Some roofs were missing though, water damage, etc.
>>> >
>>> > Hope this dosn't mess up too many lives but I'm afraid it will.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Craig Payne
>>> > cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | yak 55 seat modification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dr Andre Katz <bu131@swbell.net>
having a lot of trouble fitting in the small space designed for a short soviet
astronaut I need to modify the seat and the pedal location (I am 6' 6" tall).
Curious to know if someone out there has done the modification and perhaps can
help with some guidance. The bulkhead behind the seat limits the amount of space,
the tub can be moved 3 inches but some metal work will have to be done. Trying
not to reinvent the wheel will appreciate any suggestions.
thanks
andres Yak-55M
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| Subject: | Re: yak 55 seat modification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Sir,
I had the very same problem with my Yak 50. Was unable to come up with a viable
seat solution but I often looked at the rudder pedals with the idea that welding
some vertical bars behind them with "T" tops (for the balls of your feet)
would add some leg room. Never did it....bought a T-28 (which has movable pedals
and and adjustable seat....which at it's top leaves me nearly 6" of head
room :-) Of course, I can't out turn a Yak 55......
Best,
Walt
Dr Andre Katz <bu131@swbell.net> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dr Andre Katz
having a lot of trouble fitting in the small space designed for a short soviet
astronaut I need to modify the seat and the pedal location (I am 6' 6" tall).
Curious to know if someone out there has done the modification and perhaps can
help with some guidance. The bulkhead behind the seat limits the amount of space,
the tub can be moved 3 inches but some metal work will have to be done. Trying
not to reinvent the wheel will appreciate any suggestions.
thanks
andres Yak-55M
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| Subject: | Re: yak 55 seat modification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
OOPS! Sorry, meant that to be a private posting. Not trying to recruit for NATA
on the list. I'll be back with a CJ this winter....
Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke
Sir,
I had the very same problem with my Yak 50. Was unable to come up with a viable
seat solution but I often looked at the rudder pedals with the idea that welding
some vertical bars behind them with "T" tops (for the balls of your feet)
would add some leg room. Never did it....bought a T-28 (which has movable pedals
and and adjustable seat....which at it's top leaves me nearly 6" of head room
:-) Of course, I can't out turn a Yak 55......
Best,
Walt
Dr Andre Katz wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dr Andre Katz
having a lot of trouble fitting in the small space designed for a short soviet
astronaut I need to modify the seat and the pedal location (I am 6' 6" tall).
Curious to know if someone out there has done the modification and perhaps can
help with some guidance. The bulkhead behind the seat limits the amount of space,
the tub can be moved 3 inches but some metal work will have to be done. Trying
not to reinvent the wheel will appreciate any suggestions.
thanks
andres Yak-55M
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| Subject: | Re: yak 55 seat modification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
An aerobatics dude here in Ch 12, Dennis Wittmer, is a taller guy and
uses fiberglass shin guards...and he loves the 55M...modified himself I
guess :0)
Cheers, Ricky b
>>> walterfricke@yahoo.com 8/29/2005 12:40:36 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Sir,
I had the very same problem with my Yak 50. Was unable to come up with
a viable seat solution but I often looked at the rudder pedals with the
idea that welding some vertical bars behind them with "T" tops (for the
balls of your feet) would add some leg room. Never did it....bought a
T-28 (which has movable pedals and and adjustable seat....which at it's
top leaves me nearly 6" of head room :-) Of course, I can't out turn a
Yak 55......
Best,
Walt
Dr Andre Katz <bu131@swbell.net> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dr Andre Katz
having a lot of trouble fitting in the small space designed for a short
soviet astronaut I need to modify the seat and the pedal location (I am
6' 6" tall). Curious to know if someone out there has done the
modification and perhaps can help with some guidance. The bulkhead
behind the seat limits the amount of space, the tub can be moved 3
inches but some metal work will have to be done. Trying not to reinvent
the wheel will appreciate any suggestions.
thanks
andres Yak-55M
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| Subject: | Ausi comrade lost. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
This from a friend in Australia. Folks are guessing that he got into
trouble inverted, low level and did not remember to roll to the nearest
horizon, but instead pulled. But that's just a guess.
>From a Sydney newspaper:
A MILLIONAIRE businessman with a passion for flying died when his
Chinese-built single-engined plane crashed into the sea.
Damien Colbert, 54, of Birchgrove, was performing aerobatic manoeuvres at
the time in a plane bought just months ago.
When the tragedy struck, he was showing off the aircraft, a Chinese-built
Nanchang CJ-6A, to friends and relatives in a house on the northern beaches.
Witnesses said he was performing loop-the-loops and barrel rolls when the
single-engined plane flipped into the water about 300m off Turimetta Beach,
between Warriewood and Narrabeen on Sydney's northern beaches.
Though I did not personally know him, I think I can speak for the entire Yak
and CJ community here in the US in extending our heart felt condolences to
the family.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
Subject: Yak-List: fuel tank advice
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
I am making a aux tank for a CJ 6 and want some advice. A
good friend is a composite guy for a living will make the tank. Plan
on using the radio bay rack area. Tank would slide in the rack area
from the side panel just like the radios used too. Size would be as
big as the side panel hole, 14.5 x 10 x 33. Holding the 21 gal
tank would be the ridge in the back that the rack used , pin thru the
fitting on the tank like the rack used, and the outside wall of the
tank would be have 12 screws holding it to the fuselage The side
wall of the tank would be flared out 3 inches on the fuselage. The
gas cap would be on top. Any gas spill would be outside the fuselage.
Drag in the coke bottle area should be low from advice of a aero
engineer. The vent would go to the battery vent tube that is not used
with a sealed battery. Two 28 volt fuel pumps will be mounted on the
back of the tank. They will have quick disconnect hoses and
electrical. Access to the hoses / elec would be thru the left battery
access panel. Tank should slide out and the old panel replaced in ten
minutes. Only mod to the airplane would be hoses from the tank to
each main tank and two power switches/ harness for the pumps. CG
looks good and it leaves space for baggage behind the copilot.
battery and inverter are untouched.
My question to all is there any reason this won't work. Cost
will be under 1000 dollars . The key seems to be a custom tank to
make the most of the radio rack area with out mod to the airplane.
Most of the time the tank would only be in during X/C.
ron wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
Folks,
I want to let folks know that there is a great "focused discussion" forum site
hosted by the RPA. What makes it useful is the discussions are "subject isolated"
such as RPA Events, Aircraft & Parts Sales, Yak & CJ Maintenance, Accident
Discussions, Ask & Answer and more (someone asked for a Jet Forum and we will
add it Wednesday). A key point of this site is it retains your discussions
in a graphical format basically forever so its very quick to see or find information
or discussions, or who has responded in the conversation. Since we host
it on the RPA servers, the discussions do not fill up your email inbox. I consider
it a centralized option for aviation discussions that compliments this
and other services for the jet-prop eastern block warbird community.
I suggest organizers copy and paste their event notice info there so its retained
for folks to access 24/7, Scotts Sept. SC regional Event information is there
as are others.
The site is open to anyone, member or not, and the registration is independant
of your RPA login password (but you can make them the same if you like to retain
valuable brain cells).
It's a service that has unique capabilities and a easy to use format to compliment
the sharing of information, I suggest we all bookmark the site in our favorites
along with the assoc website and other resources; register at rpatalk....
www.rpatalk.com
Fly often, fly safe,
Drew
Drew Blahnick
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| Subject: | Re: yak 55 seat modification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dr Andre Katz <bu131@swbell.net>
thanks for the suggestion. Indeed when I ferried the airplane I had to go to a
sports shop and purchase shin guards (soccer model) just to be able to steer for
braking purposes, got it from Atlanta to Dallas with bruises all over but it
was a hoot. I know that a couple of fellows have done the modification, perhaps
one will read this email. Of interest the adds for the new yak 55 later model
describes a movable rear seat for taller pilots and perhaps someone has seen
that model. it also has cutoffs for the panel so the knees have more clearance.
I am not aware of a single new 55 around here.
regards
andres
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| Subject: | Re: Ausi comrade lost. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Newing" <sbnewing@ozemail.com.au>
All Yakkers and CJ here in OZ are sadden and shocked, haven't spoken to
anybody in the area at the time of Damien crash. May be Egon or some of the
Sydney folk may have some news soon. Casa are investigating.
Steve Newing
Downunder
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Ausi comrade lost.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
>
> This from a friend in Australia. Folks are guessing that he got into
> trouble inverted, low level and did not remember to roll to the nearest
> horizon, but instead pulled. But that's just a guess.
>
>>From a Sydney newspaper:
>
> A MILLIONAIRE businessman with a passion for flying died when his
> Chinese-built single-engined plane crashed into the sea.
>
> Damien Colbert, 54, of Birchgrove, was performing aerobatic manoeuvres at
> the time in a plane bought just months ago.
> When the tragedy struck, he was showing off the aircraft, a Chinese-built
> Nanchang CJ-6A, to friends and relatives in a house on the northern
> beaches.
>
> Witnesses said he was performing loop-the-loops and barrel rolls when the
> single-engined plane flipped into the water about 300m off Turimetta
> Beach,
> between Warriewood and Narrabeen on Sydney's northern beaches.
>
> Though I did not personally know him, I think I can speak for the entire
> Yak
> and CJ community here in the US in extending our heart felt condolences to
> the family.
>
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: fuel tank advice
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> I am making a aux tank for a CJ 6 and want some advice. A
> good friend is a composite guy for a living will make the tank. Plan
> on using the radio bay rack area. Tank would slide in the rack area
> from the side panel just like the radios used too. Size would be as
> big as the side panel hole, 14.5 x 10 x 33. Holding the 21 gal
> tank would be the ridge in the back that the rack used , pin thru the
> fitting on the tank like the rack used, and the outside wall of the
> tank would be have 12 screws holding it to the fuselage The side
> wall of the tank would be flared out 3 inches on the fuselage. The
> gas cap would be on top. Any gas spill would be outside the fuselage.
> Drag in the coke bottle area should be low from advice of a aero
> engineer. The vent would go to the battery vent tube that is not used
> with a sealed battery. Two 28 volt fuel pumps will be mounted on the
> back of the tank. They will have quick disconnect hoses and
> electrical. Access to the hoses / elec would be thru the left battery
> access panel. Tank should slide out and the old panel replaced in ten
> minutes. Only mod to the airplane would be hoses from the tank to
> each main tank and two power switches/ harness for the pumps. CG
> looks good and it leaves space for baggage behind the copilot.
> battery and inverter are untouched.
>
> My question to all is there any reason this won't work. Cost
> will be under 1000 dollars . The key seems to be a custom tank to
> make the most of the radio rack area with out mod to the airplane.
> Most of the time the tank would only be in during X/C.
>
>
> ron wasson
> ronwasson@mindspring.com
>
>
>
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