Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:37 AM - Yak-50 and -52 Artwork (Tim Gagnon)
2. 06:59 AM - conversion table (MFilucci@aol.com)
3. 10:12 AM - Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (Richard Goode)
4. 10:27 AM - Re: conversion table (Ernest Martinez)
5. 10:33 AM - Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 10:42 AM - Re: conversion table (Frank Haertlein)
7. 10:47 AM - DAMN....try this!!!!!! (Tim Gagnon)
8. 10:56 AM - Re: DAMN....try this!!!!!! (Frank Haertlein)
9. 10:58 AM - Re: DAMN....try this!!!!!! (Frank Haertlein)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (Ernest Martinez)
11. 11:24 AM - Re: conversion table (Brian Lloyd)
12. 11:27 AM - Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (Brian Lloyd)
13. 11:36 AM - Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (Roger Kemp)
14. 11:40 AM - Damn.... (Tim Gagnon)
15. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Photos (Shinden33)
16. 11:56 AM - CO in cockpit (ADE)
17. 12:12 PM - yak list: CO in the cockpit (Frank Stelwagon)
18. 12:32 PM - Oil tank filler gasket (Tim Gagnon)
19. 12:53 PM - M14P Engine Mount Rubbers Torque (Jeff Linebaugh)
20. 01:07 PM - Re: Spinner (ANDREWS)
21. 02:55 PM - Re: conversion table (A. Dennis Savarese)
22. 03:21 PM - Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit (Ernest Martinez)
23. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Photos (Ernest Martinez)
24. 03:39 PM - Re: Oil tank filler gasket (Doug Sapp)
25. 04:27 PM - Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit (Doug Sapp)
26. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: Photos (Shinden33)
27. 04:47 PM - Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! (Craig Payne)
28. 05:06 PM - Re: M14P Engine Mount Rubbers Torque (Craig Payne)
29. 05:27 PM - Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit (Roger Kemp)
30. 05:58 PM - Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit (Ernest Martinez)
31. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Photos (Ernest Martinez)
32. 07:23 PM - Re: Rubber Mount Pads Torque (Jeff Linebaugh)
33. 11:50 PM - Conversions (Frank Stelwagon)
34. 11:57 PM - Stainless Exhaust (Frank Stelwagon)
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| Subject: | Yak-50 and -52 Artwork |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
Let's try this again!!!! That link was a bit off.
Folks,
A good friend of mine has done a fantastic job of a stunning profile of the
Yak-50 and has begun work on the Yak-52. He will also be doing the CJ-6 in
the near future. He is now accepting custom orders for a profile of the
Yak-50 and Yak-52. The work really is great! Are you thinking of a new paint
scheme for your airplane and not sure what it will look like in the end? Try
Barry's work and you will KNOW exactly what it will look like!
Check out the Yak-50 he has done (This is Mark Schrick's BEAUTIFUL airplane)
http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett<http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett>
Now, if you want to see what kind of work he does as well, check out his
site. He also builds some really cool websites! If you are looking for
something different for your business or something personal, drop him a
line. Tell him I sent you! (I am not taking a single dime from this, just
want to see his work appreciated) Check out his cartoons!! (He is doing one
for me) He really digs the Yak!!!
http://cincinnatiwarbirds.org/<http://cincinnatiwarbirds.org/>
http://www.spanishcastle.com/justplanefun/<http://www.spanishcastle.com/justplanefun/>
http://www.chuckyeager.com/specialfeatures.htm<http://www.chuckyeager.com/specialfeatures.htm> (checkout the animated
series..that is Barry's work)
Drop Barry a note at: barry@spanishcastle.com<mailto:barry@spanishcastle.com>
Thanks,
Tim Gagnon
Yak-50
N359FG
www.redstarforum.com<http://www.redstarforum.com/>
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| Subject: | conversion table |
--> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
If anyone has a conversion table for manifold pressure, mm Hg to inches/
inches to mm Hg, please send the file to me off list at: mfilucci@aol.com
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Well, at our local airfield Avgas is now US$8.70 - and that is for a US gallon,
not the proper imperial one!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Re: conversion table |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Goto
http://www.megaconverter.com/mega2/
This is a convertoer site for all sorts of stuff.
Select pressure from the top field then select inches of Mercury for once
field, and cm Mercury. You'll have to multiply your answer by 10 to get MM
of mercury.
eg., 31.5 inches 80cm 800 mm.
Ernie
On 9/5/05, MFilucci@aol.com <MFilucci@aol.com> wrote:
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
>
> If anyone has a conversion table for manifold pressure, mm Hg to inches/
> inches to mm Hg, please send the file to me off list at: mfilucci@aol.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Several larger airports in the US are now charging $5 or more per gallon.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
> Well, at our local airfield Avgas is now US$8.70 - and that is for a US
> gallon, not the proper imperial one!
>
> Richard Goode
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | conversion table |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Mike
Here's a link to the conversion chart for millimeters of mercury to
inches of mercury.
Would some of you math wizards like to verify that I got it right?
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/mm_to_inches.html
Regards
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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| Subject: | DAMN....try this!!!!!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett<http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett>
Hopefully this will work!!!!! If not, just drop Barry an email and he will send
you a sample of his work.
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| Subject: | DAMN....try this!!!!!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Tim
Try this http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Subject: Yak-List: DAMN....try this!!!!!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett<http://community.webshots.
com/user/junglejett>
Hopefully this will work!!!!! If not, just drop Barry an email and he
will send you a sample of his work.
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| Subject: | DAMN....try this!!!!!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Tim
By-the-way.....that is one hell of a nice looking bird!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Subject: Yak-List: DAMN....try this!!!!!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett<http://community.webshots.
com/user/junglejett>
Hopefully this will work!!!!! If not, just drop Barry an email and he
will send you a sample of his work.
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| Subject: | Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
And I complained when I topped off my 300 gal tank in my hangar @ $2.65 a
gallon last month :)
Ernie
On 9/5/05, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <
> dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Several larger airports in the US are now charging $5 or more per gallon.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> To: "YAK USA LIST" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon!
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
> > <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> >
> > Well, at our local airfield Avgas is now US$8.70 - and that is for a US
> > gallon, not the proper imperial one!
> >
> > Richard Goode
> >
> > Richard Goode Aerobatics
> > Rhodds Farm
> > Lyonshall
> > Herefordshire
> > HR5 3LW
> > United Kingdom
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> > Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
> > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> > www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com>
> >
> > dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: conversion table |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
MFilucci@aol.com wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com
>
> If anyone has a conversion table for manifold pressure, mm Hg to inches/
> inches to mm Hg, please send the file to me off list at: mfilucci@aol.com
For a quick and dirty the conversion is 25:1 25mm = 1 in. A change of 100mm is
a change of 4" or thereabouts. The reference point is 30" = 760 mm.
26" = 660mm
(And if you want to be really anal about it 29.92" = 760mm.)
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Several larger airports in the US are now charging $5 or more per gallon.
My local airport is charging $3.26. The next-door airport that sells more fuel
is at $4.10.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Proper!?
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> To: YAK USA LIST <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/5/2005 12:11:49 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon!
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
> Well, at our local airfield Avgas is now US$8.70 - and that is for a US
gallon, not the proper imperial one!
>
> Richard Goode
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Thanks Frank!!!!! I was about to freaking lose it!!
That is Mark Schricks Yak-50 and it is beautiful!!!
Mine..well...as soon as I can, its paint scheme is coming off. It will be stripped
down to bare metal (it never has been) and be properly painted.
Thanks again! I hope you guys find some use in that artwork. He is really excited
about doing them and seeing how everything one likes it. He will be "lofting"
my new design soon!!
Tim
N359FG
www.redstarforum.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
All,
Hello, My name is Scott and I am a future Yakaholic from Tehachapi Ca.
Hope I'm not intruding but I am new to the Yak world. Shrek and Savarese
are probably tired of dealing with me at this point as I have been trying to
find the "right" airplane for over a year now.
I am an engineer working Flight Test at Edwards and found this post
particularly interesting. What CO problem are you looking for exactly?
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Ahhh,
But that would only explain CO in the cockpit for a brief period of time
(the landing phase of flight). It would be helpful to see your testing in
cruise configurations.
Ernie
On 9/4/05, Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>
>
> >What exactly are you demonstrating here????
> >
> >Ernie
>
> Ernie,
>
> Check my previous posting on Air Flow. Perhaps it is not evident to the
> causal observer, or the untrained eye, but notice the tufts of yarn stuck
to
> the side of the fuselage behind the cowling exit and over the wing root.
It
> clearly demonstrates the airflow from the proximate area of the exhaust
> stack, up and over the wing under higher angles of attack.
>
> So how does the Carbon Monoxide get up into the cockpit areas? Perhaps a
> longer exhaust stack is the first place to start, in addition to sealing
up
> leaks in the exhaust stack joints, since the escaping gases will exit out
> the back of the cowl and then flow the string.
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ADE <coolade@cox.net>
After reading the messages re CO in the cockpit I purchased a CO
-experts monitor model 2004, after tying a string to it and hanging it
around my neck I went for a test hop---digital readout went from 27 to
55 to 70ppm the it just read "HI". NEEDLESS to say I immediately landed
and began trouble shooting for leaks in the exhaust. Using shop air I
pressurised the manifolds and soap checked the joints, found two
massive leaks, one at the joint between #2 and #3 cyl. the other at the
point the smoke nozzle was attached to the manifold (if your system was
installed by Crowder I recommend you check for leaks). One relatively
small leak at the #3 attach spanner nut. I buttoned it back up this
morning and flew with the following results: Cruise- 0ppm, 100mph
canopy closed - 22pm, 100mph canopy at first notch--0ppm. Hard left
turn - 27ppm hard right turn- 22ppm. 120mph smoke on- 12ppm canopy
open- 10ppm canopy closed. I believe the remainder is coming from the
exhaust pipe exit. ANYWAY You guys may have saved a life!!! I still
would like to get it to zero in all regimes, has anyone tried vortex
destroyers in the area between the cowl and the leading edge of the
wing? Yak 52 driver Ade Hale---Tulsa
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| Subject: | yak list: CO in the cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
You know there is a good solution to the leaky exhaust system joints. Contact
Radial Engine Exhausts in Jumping Branch Virginia their Stainless system uses
slip joints not the junk joints of the Chinese system or Russian system. Since
it is made from a material superior to the original exhaust systems it doesn't
burn through.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| Subject: | Oil tank filler gasket |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Oil Tank Filler Gasket
I need one...any leads?
Tim Gagnon
Yak-50
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| Subject: | M14P Engine Mount Rubbers Torque |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
I am having to replace the engine mount rubbers on the engine mount ring on
my M14P powered CJ. I am having trouble finding a proper torque value.
Does anybody have the proper torque?
Thanks,
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
CJ-6P N621CJ
Memphis, TN
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "ANDREWS" <dandmaz@cox.net>
Looking for a Les Crowder or Whirlwind Spinner, please contact me off line
at dandmaz@cox.net
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| Subject: | Re: conversion table |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
I sent Mike a complete conversion table this morning.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: conversion table
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Mike
> Here's a link to the conversion chart for millimeters of mercury to
> inches of mercury.
> Would some of you math wizards like to verify that I got it right?
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/mm_to_inches.html
>
> Regards
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
> L71
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Outa Business, Bought by someother outfit who will no longer suppor tthe
system.
Too Bad too, cause Its a nice system, I have it on my plane.
Ernie
On 9/5/05, Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <
> pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
>
> You know there is a good solution to the leaky exhaust system joints.
> Contact Radial Engine Exhausts in Jumping Branch Virginia their Stainless
> system uses slip joints not the junk joints of the Chinese system or Russian
> system. Since it is made from a material superior to the original exhaust
> systems it doesn't burn through.
>
> Frank
> CJ6-A N23021
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
CO levels in the Cockpit
On 9/5/05, Shinden33 <shinden33@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> Hello, My name is Scott and I am a future Yakaholic from Tehachapi Ca.
>
> Hope I'm not intruding but I am new to the Yak world. Shrek and Savarese
> are probably tired of dealing with me at this point as I have been trying
> to
> find the "right" airplane for over a year now.
>
> I am an engineer working Flight Test at Edwards and found this post
> particularly interesting. What CO problem are you looking for exactly?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Ahhh,
>
> But that would only explain CO in the cockpit for a brief period of time
> (the landing phase of flight). It would be helpful to see your testing in
> cruise configurations.
>
> Ernie
>
> On 9/4/05, Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
> >
> >
> > >What exactly are you demonstrating here????
> > >
> > >Ernie
> >
> > Ernie,
> >
> > Check my previous posting on Air Flow. Perhaps it is not evident to the
> > causal observer, or the untrained eye, but notice the tufts of yarn
> stuck
> to
> > the side of the fuselage behind the cowling exit and over the wing root.
> It
> > clearly demonstrates the airflow from the proximate area of the exhaust
> > stack, up and over the wing under higher angles of attack.
> >
> > So how does the Carbon Monoxide get up into the cockpit areas? Perhaps a
> > longer exhaust stack is the first place to start, in addition to sealing
> up
> > leaks in the exhaust stack joints, since the escaping gases will exit
> out
> > the back of the cowl and then flow the string.
> >
> > Craig Payne
> > cpayne@joimail.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil tank filler gasket |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
YUP! I have them in stock.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Subject: Yak-List: Oil tank filler gasket
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Oil Tank Filler Gasket
I need one...any leads?
Tim Gagnon
Yak-50
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| Subject: | yak list: CO in the cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
So guys, you honestly believe that the slip joint system (which has no seal
at all) affords you more protection against exhaust leaks than the properly
maintained shim and gasket type system of the Nanchang and Yak stock
exhaust? I would respectfully submit that the slip joint system will look
better and take less maintenance, but to expect a metal against metal slip
joint with no seal to not leak under pressure and do anything but get looser
and leak more and more over time is in my opinion a great leap of faith. I
honestly feel that the properly maintained stock system, be it yak or CJ is
still the best way to prevent exhaust leaks in the engine compartment. Back
when these slip joint systems were introduced we were not smart enough to
consider the gas problem and so there was no worry about CO2, they were not
designed to prevent CO2, they were designed to stop the continual
maintenance of the seals, clamps, and gaskets and the burn out problems of
the standard steel Nanchang systems, and the crack out problems of the
titanium Yak systems.
"your mileage may vary".
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: Re: Yak-List: yak list: CO in the cockpit
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Outa Business, Bought by someother outfit who will no longer suppor tthe
system.
Too Bad too, cause Its a nice system, I have it on my plane.
Ernie
On 9/5/05, Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <
> pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
>
> You know there is a good solution to the leaky exhaust system joints.
> Contact Radial Engine Exhausts in Jumping Branch Virginia their Stainless
> system uses slip joints not the junk joints of the Chinese system or
Russian
> system. Since it is made from a material superior to the original exhaust
> systems it doesn't burn through.
>
> Frank
> CJ6-A N23021
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
Um... Could you be a little bit more specific? Is there a history of this
on the Yak?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
CO levels in the Cockpit
On 9/5/05, Shinden33 <shinden33@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> Hello, My name is Scott and I am a future Yakaholic from Tehachapi Ca.
>
> Hope I'm not intruding but I am new to the Yak world. Shrek and Savarese
> are probably tired of dealing with me at this point as I have been trying
> to
> find the "right" airplane for over a year now.
>
> I am an engineer working Flight Test at Edwards and found this post
> particularly interesting. What CO problem are you looking for exactly?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Ahhh,
>
> But that would only explain CO in the cockpit for a brief period of time
> (the landing phase of flight). It would be helpful to see your testing in
> cruise configurations.
>
> Ernie
>
> On 9/4/05, Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
> >
> >
> > >What exactly are you demonstrating here????
> > >
> > >Ernie
> >
> > Ernie,
> >
> > Check my previous posting on Air Flow. Perhaps it is not evident to the
> > causal observer, or the untrained eye, but notice the tufts of yarn
> stuck
> to
> > the side of the fuselage behind the cowling exit and over the wing root.
> It
> > clearly demonstrates the airflow from the proximate area of the exhaust
> > stack, up and over the wing under higher angles of attack.
> >
> > So how does the Carbon Monoxide get up into the cockpit areas? Perhaps a
> > longer exhaust stack is the first place to start, in addition to sealing
> up
> > leaks in the exhaust stack joints, since the escaping gases will exit
> out
> > the back of the cowl and then flow the string.
> >
> > Craig Payne
> > cpayne@joimail.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Complaining about Avgas at US$3.42 a gallon! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sir,
'Twas I who posted the comment; it was NOT a complaint about the price of Avgas,
it was a complaint about the price of Motor car petrol. Perhaps the underlying
issue is the rate of increase rather than the absolute amount. Believe it or
not, some of us blokes on the 'list are Po' boys who need to manage their fixed
incomes and stock market crash ravaged portfolios.
But now that you mention it.....
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: M14P Engine Mount Rubbers Torque |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Jeff,
There is no torque spec, it's a compression measurement. See Task card 404, kinda
like an 404 error....
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | yak list: CO in the cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Frank,
Have you got a website, email address, or a phone number?
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/5/2005 2:12:04 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: yak list: CO in the cockpit
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon"
<pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
>
> You know there is a good solution to the leaky exhaust system joints.
Contact Radial Engine Exhausts in Jumping Branch Virginia their Stainless
system uses slip joints not the junk joints of the Chinese system or
Russian system. Since it is made from a material superior to the original
exhaust systems it doesn't burn through.
>
> Frank
> CJ6-A N23021
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: yak list: CO in the cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Honestly Doug,
My short answer is yes, after putting several hundred hours on my system,
the joints actually sealed themselves. Firstly they were a very tight fit to
start with, secondly over time, the joints fill in with whatever soot may
have penetrated through. Many Spam cans and American warbirds have been
using slip joints for years. When designed properly they work great.
And you said it your self "A properly MAINTAINED" shim and gasket system.
The shims and gaskets require maintenance, can move, disintegrate, all
situations that will cause an exhaust leak, while a "properly fitted" slip
joint system is virtually maintenance free, except for checking the
tightness of the head collars which would have to be done on either system.
I personally hated the shim/gasket/clamp system. I'm willing to bet that a
large percentage of the systems out there are missing the shims and are just
relying on the clamps.
Its all mooot however since you cant get the slip joint system from Jumping
Branch any more anyway, so anyone looking to switch is better off with Dougs
stainless system rather than the crappy original stuff that came with the
stock engines.
Also, I'm not too worried about the Carbon Dioxide (CO2) coming into my
plane, but the Carbon Monoxide (CO) :) (Couldnt resist.)
Ernie
On 9/5/05, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> So guys, you honestly believe that the slip joint system (which has no
> seal
> at all) affords you more protection against exhaust leaks than the
> properly
> maintained shim and gasket type system of the Nanchang and Yak stock
> exhaust?
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Refer to the List Archives
Ernie
On 9/5/05, Shinden33 <shinden33@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> Um... Could you be a little bit more specific? Is there a history of this
> on the Yak?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> CO levels in the Cockpit
>
>
> On 9/5/05, Shinden33 <shinden33@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Hello, My name is Scott and I am a future Yakaholic from Tehachapi Ca.
> >
> > Hope I'm not intruding but I am new to the Yak world. Shrek and Savarese
> > are probably tired of dealing with me at this point as I have been
> trying
> > to
> > find the "right" airplane for over a year now.
> >
> > I am an engineer working Flight Test at Edwards and found this post
> > particularly interesting. What CO problem are you looking for exactly?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Photos
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> >
> > Ahhh,
> >
> > But that would only explain CO in the cockpit for a brief period of time
> > (the landing phase of flight). It would be helpful to see your testing
> in
> > cruise configurations.
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> > On 9/4/05, Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > >What exactly are you demonstrating here????
> > > >
> > > >Ernie
> > >
> > > Ernie,
> > >
> > > Check my previous posting on Air Flow. Perhaps it is not evident to
> the
> > > causal observer, or the untrained eye, but notice the tufts of yarn
> > stuck
> > to
> > > the side of the fuselage behind the cowling exit and over the wing
> root.
> > It
> > > clearly demonstrates the airflow from the proximate area of the
> exhaust
> > > stack, up and over the wing under higher angles of attack.
> > >
> > > So how does the Carbon Monoxide get up into the cockpit areas? Perhaps
> a
> > > longer exhaust stack is the first place to start, in addition to
> sealing
> > up
> > > leaks in the exhaust stack joints, since the escaping gases will exit
> > out
> > > the back of the cowl and then flow the string.
> > >
> > > Craig Payne
> > > cpayne@joimail.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Rubber Mount Pads Torque |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Thanks Craig....
I saw the 34.5 on the task card, and assumed it was a MM measurement but it
I wasn't completely sure...was hoping there was a torque... I'll get out my
trusty 'ole MM-meter.
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
CJ-6P N621CJ
Memphis, TN
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
The best conversion program that I have seen is Sacramento Sky Ranch's "Engineering
Manual" software really quick and easy to use. However it is not free.
sacramentoskyranch.com will get you to their web site.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| Subject: | Stainless Exhaust |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
You are right the gentleman in Jumping Branch, Virginia did sell out, however the
company that bought him out didn't want anything to do with radial engines
and last I heard he was still in business making radial exhausts.
As Doug Sap said he has Chinese Stainless systems for sale also.
Regarding slip joint leakage, there are a large number of turbocharged aircraft
running with slip joint systems ahead of the turbo, they hold up real well as
leakage kills the turbo system. No exhaust system is maintenance free and should
be watched carefully. Longer exhaust outlets? Will they clear the lower
cowl on the CJ?
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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