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1. 07:08 AM - Re: New RPA Prop Flag (Jon Boede)
2. 07:11 AM - Re: Ethanol (Jon Boede)
3. 07:11 AM - M14P Family Engines in Russia (Richard Goode)
4. 07:12 AM - Re: Conversion Calculator (Jon Boede)
5. 07:24 AM - Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau (Richard Goode)
6. 08:09 AM - Re: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau (Roger Kemp)
7. 08:24 AM - Re: Ethanol (Brian Lloyd)
8. 08:26 AM - Re: Ethanol (Brian Lloyd)
9. 08:36 AM - Brian? (ByronMFox@aol.com)
10. 08:57 AM - Re: Brian? (Brian Lloyd)
11. 10:52 AM - Re: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau (Cliff Umscheid)
12. 11:42 AM - Re: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau (Fraser, Gus)
13. 12:16 PM - Re: CO levels (cjpilot710@aol.com)
14. 12:25 PM - Re: New RPA Prop Flag (bill austin)
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| Subject: | New RPA Prop Flag |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
How comes we can't use PayPal in the RPA store??
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> I got one of the first ones. I am looking forward to taking it to the
> Shelby Co. Airshow in Birmingham this weekend. It looks really good and
> is
> big enough to get their attention...if they can read and have half a brain
> that is.
> Viperdoc
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <ByronMFox@aol.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 9/13/2005 4:55:00 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: New RPA Prop Flag
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
>>
>> At airshows, do people finger your prop and gills? At Viperdoc's
> suggestion,
>> you can now purchase a "Please Look But Don't Touch" RPA Prop Flag for
> $30 at
>> the RPA On-line Store.
>> (See: http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx)
>>
>> It's designed to fit Yak 52 and CJ-6 prop blades as well as most any
> other.
>> Short of an electric shock, it'll keep the kids away.
>>
>> Thanks, Blitz
>>
>> Byron M Fox
>> The RPA Store
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
>> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Also, is it mandatory that the ethanol content of gas be posted at the
pump, or is it possible to be pumping ethanol into your system without
knowing it?
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
>
> Because the CJ runs on 70 octane white gas in China, I routinely ran my
> CJ's
> 285 Housai on 87 octane unleaded auto with an occassional tank of 100LL.
> Dutifullly, however, when ethanol was added to California fuels, I stopped
> because
> "ethanol will eat your seals and hoses."
>
> Today, 100LL is $4.45/gal at the local aerodrome, while 87 octane unleaded
> is
> $2.89 down the street. It would seem now reasonable to explore the cost of
> making my CJ's fuel system ethanol friendly. Capturing the $1.55 spread
> would
> soon offset any reasonable modification. What say you knowleglable folks
> out
> there? Thanks, Blitz
>
>
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| Subject: | M14P Family Engines in Russia |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Following a recent trip to Russia, I have prepared a report including photographs
of the current position with the Voronezh Mechanical Plant, and Vedeneyev Design
Bureau (the current two manufacturers of the M14 family of engines in Russia).
The good news is that VMP is going to restart engine production, and indeed has
produced enough components for approximately fifty engines. Certainly I saw
more than enough evidence of this - although there is a problem for out-sourced
components, principally magnetos and carburettors.
The bad news is that prices will be very significantly more expensive than those
that people have been fortunate enough to pay over the last 10 years!
For more information, please click on the following link:=20
http://www.russianaeros.com/Report%20on%20M14P%20family%20engine%20production%20in%20Russia.htm
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Re: Conversion Calculator |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Or http://www.onlineconversion.com/ if you don't happen to be at your own
computer.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Jim, Yakkers
>
> Here's the unit conversion program I use. It's the best!
>
> http://www.blackbeltvb.com/index.htm?software.htm
>
> Regards
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
> L71
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| Subject: | Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
I spent sometime with YDB in Moscow last week:
The Yak-54 manufacture has always been problematic because it has been at the troubled
Saratov Plant, and financial problems there prevented larger scale production
of the aircraft.
However it is being moved to the much more successful and dynamic Arsenyev factory
in the Russian far-east, where all Yak-50/55 were made, and indeed many Kamov
helicopters are still being made. An initial batch of ten aircraft are being
laid down, and depending on the sales of these, more will follow. Should
anyone be interested, please let us know.
The new Yak-152 is well into its design phase (please contact us if you would like
a picture). Although the Sukhoi 49 seemingly won the Air Force contract,
inside sources in the Russian Air Force are much keener on the Yak-152 with all-metal
construction; simpler maintenance etc. It strikes me as a rather fine
aircraft for the private pilot! Certainly civil versions will be built - brief
details are:
VNE 500 kilometres p/h
Max cruise 350 kilometres p/h
+9/-7G
1000 kilometres range
Take off 175 metres
Land 360 metres
Anyone interested?
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Richard,
Send me a picture of the YAK-152. Is this the version with Sukio extractor
seats and the one piece canopy the falls off to the right like the L-39?
Doc Kemp
> [Original Message]
> From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> To: YAK USA LIST <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/15/2005 9:24:17 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
> I spent sometime with YDB in Moscow last week:
>
> The Yak-54 manufacture has always been problematic because it has been at
the troubled Saratov Plant, and financial problems there prevented larger
scale production of the aircraft.
>
> However it is being moved to the much more successful and dynamic
Arsenyev factory in the Russian far-east, where all Yak-50/55 were made,
and indeed many Kamov helicopters are still being made. An initial batch
of ten aircraft are being laid down, and depending on the sales of these,
more will follow. Should anyone be interested, please let us know.
>
> The new Yak-152 is well into its design phase (please contact us if you
would like a picture). Although the Sukhoi 49 seemingly won the Air Force
contract, inside sources in the Russian Air Force are much keener on the
Yak-152 with all-metal construction; simpler maintenance etc. It strikes
me as a rather fine aircraft for the private pilot! Certainly civil
versions will be built - brief details are:
>
> VNE 500 kilometres p/h
> Max cruise 350 kilometres p/h
> +9/-7G
> 1000 kilometres range
> Take off 175 metres
> Land 360 metres
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> Richard Goode
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
> Today, 100LL is $4.45/gal at the local aerodrome, while 87 octane unleaded is
> $2.89 down the street. It would seem now reasonable to explore the cost of
> making my CJ's fuel system ethanol friendly. Capturing the $1.55 spread would
> soon offset any reasonable modification. What say you knowleglable folks out
> there? Thanks, Blitz
Before you assume that all mogas contains alcohol test the fuel in question.
An alcohol tester is really easy to make. All you need is a long, relatively
thin glass container. The long, thin jar used for martini olives works great.
To make the tester take the empty jar and mark a line around it about 1" from
the bottom. Mark another line about 1" from the top. Your tester is complete.
To use the tester, fill the jar with water up to the lower mark. Add gasoline
to fill it to the top mark. Cap the jar and shake vigorously. When the fuel
and water settle and separate look at the lower line. If the separating line
is still at the lower mark, the gasoline has no alcohol in it. If the
separating line is lower, i.e. some of the water has disappeared, then the
fuel contains alcohol.
This works because alcohol is hygroscopic (binds with water). It actually
takes some of the water and binds it to the fuel.
BTW, Blitz, we are paying $3.56 at Cameron Park. Fly over here for fuel. I
also have access to a CJ I can fly now so lets go do some form and maybe
hassle. I need to get my FAST card back.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Jon Boede wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Also, is it mandatory that the ethanol content of gas be posted at the
> pump, or is it possible to be pumping ethanol into your system without
> knowing it?
Here is California they put a generic notice on the pump that the fuel *MAY*
contain oxygenates like alcohol or MTBE. That doesn't mean they actually do.
The only way to know for sure is for the distributor to tell you or to test
for it.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
In a message dated 9/15/2005 8:25:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
brian-yak@lloyd.com writes:
BTW, Blitz, we are paying $3.56 at Cameron Park. Fly over here for fuel. I
also have access to a CJ I can fly now so lets go do some form and maybe
hassle. I need to get my FAST card back.
Brian,
Are you back from the Caribbean, or are you now bi-coastal? ...Blitz
PS: I have such an ethanol testing tube, and yup, auto gas in Marin County,
the Peoples Republic thereof, has it.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
> Are you back from the Caribbean, or are you now bi-coastal? ...Blitz
I am living in Folsom and working in West Sac. My Aztec is living at Cameron
Park. My project is still in Randy Thorne's shop sans engine and prop. Still
no money from Sean Carroll in spite of his promise to pay last Friday so the
Project continues to languish.
Dennis Nickson has given me carte blanche to fly his CJ so long as I keep the
fuel and oil topped up.
> PS: I have such an ethanol testing tube, and yup, auto gas in Marin County,
> the Peoples Republic thereof, has it.
That sucks dude. I don't see there being a good way to easily convert to
making the aircraft safe for fuels containing alcohol. Alcohol is pretty nasty
stuff.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
Richard,
Iwould appreciate a picture of the YAK 152 and of the 54 if available.
Applicable specs appreciated .
Thankyou,
Cliff Umscheid
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:09:00 -0500 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
writes:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp"
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Richard,
> Send me a picture of the YAK-152. Is this the version with Sukio
> extractor
> seats and the one piece canopy the falls off to the right like the
> L-39?
> Doc Kemp
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> > To: YAK USA LIST <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 9/15/2005 9:24:17 AM
> > Subject: Yak-List: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> >
> > I spent sometime with YDB in Moscow last week:
> >
> > The Yak-54 manufacture has always been problematic because it has
> been at
> the troubled Saratov Plant, and financial problems there prevented
> larger
> scale production of the aircraft.
> >
> > However it is being moved to the much more successful and dynamic
> Arsenyev factory in the Russian far-east, where all Yak-50/55 were
> made,
> and indeed many Kamov helicopters are still being made. An initial
> batch
> of ten aircraft are being laid down, and depending on the sales of
> these,
> more will follow. Should anyone be interested, please let us know.
> >
> > The new Yak-152 is well into its design phase (please contact us
> if you
> would like a picture). Although the Sukhoi 49 seemingly won the Air
> Force
> contract, inside sources in the Russian Air Force are much keener on
> the
> Yak-152 with all-metal construction; simpler maintenance etc. It
> strikes
> me as a rather fine aircraft for the private pilot! Certainly
> civil
> versions will be built - brief details are:
> >
> > VNE 500 kilometres p/h
> > Max cruise 350 kilometres p/h
> > +9/-7G
> > 1000 kilometres range
> > Take off 175 metres
> > Land 360 metres
> >
> > Anyone interested?
> >
> > Richard Goode
> >
> > Richard Goode Aerobatics
> > Rhodds Farm
> > Lyonshall
> > Herefordshire
> > HR5 3LW
> > United Kingdom
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> > Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
> > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> > www.russianaeros.com
> >
> > dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com
> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
I am forwarding a message which I got yesterday from the mechanics on the
Russian national team. The discovered severe structural problems with the
Yak 54 after just 300 hrs service please see below.
"I just received e-mail form Russian Advanced Team. They discovered serious
problem with Yak-54. See attached illustration. After just 300 hours all
rivets marked with red cross was gone and all bolts marked with red cross
was turned off on 1-2 turns.
Could you please, warn about this problem all Yak-54's owners which you
know."
Basically about 20 rivets around the main spar were "MISSING" and others
were deformed. Please pass this on to anyone with a 54. I have a graphic
which describes the problem if anyone needs it.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Subject: Yak-List: Update from Yakovlev Design Bureau
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
--> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
I spent sometime with YDB in Moscow last week:
The Yak-54 manufacture has always been problematic because it has been at
the troubled Saratov Plant, and financial problems there prevented larger
scale production of the aircraft.
However it is being moved to the much more successful and dynamic Arsenyev
factory in the Russian far-east, where all Yak-50/55 were made, and indeed
many Kamov helicopters are still being made. An initial batch of ten
aircraft are being laid down, and depending on the sales of these, more will
follow. Should anyone be interested, please let us know.
The new Yak-152 is well into its design phase (please contact us if you
would like a picture). Although the Sukhoi 49 seemingly won the Air Force
contract, inside sources in the Russian Air Force are much keener on the
Yak-152 with all-metal construction; simpler maintenance etc. It strikes me
as a rather fine aircraft for the private pilot! Certainly civil versions
will be built - brief details are:
VNE 500 kilometres p/h
Max cruise 350 kilometres p/h
+9/-7G
1000 kilometres range
Take off 175 metres
Land 360 metres
Anyone interested?
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
I believe there at least two fresh air sources for the CJ cockpit.
1. Already existing intakes at the louvers (two) - one for the generator and
one for the air compressor.
2. A intake installed on the cowling.
These two area are free from any exhaust gases and heated air.
The area forward of the louvers is aerodynamically very high pressure and
clean.
The air directly behind the louvers may be getting some engine case gases
from the breather. Air flow from the louvers to behind the baffles is not
effectively straight though, but quite turbulent (Have you tried to track down
an
oil leak up there?). So air in front of the louvers should be OK.
The area around the cowling will have high velocity clean air. This air is
separated from the engine compartment by the air tight cowling and remains
clean until it mixes with air exiting the cowl cheeks. So any place forward of
the cooling air outlets should be a clean source.
In source #1 the ram air for the generator could be utilized (particularly
if one had installed an alternator) - not so for the compressor.
An enlarged sealed duck, could be made to run from the louvers, between the
cylinders - behind the baffles - some air could be taped off for the generator
cooling, the rest rooted to the firewall. Both the first and second
firewall would need to be drilled out so the ducking could run straight though
to
the forward cockpit. Although I'd like to have the new ducking make of
aluminum, I believe it could be made of fiber glass.
The 2nd source would require constructing an intake (NASA flush or
protrusion type) on the cowling. Sealed flexible ducking would than run to the
first
firewall.
The draw back with this is having to deal with the ducking each time the
cowling is opened AND the looks - plus the complexity of building the intake
(metal work, riveting , paint, ect.)
I believe I will attempted to utilized the first KISS condition.
Before that I will attempt to redo and replace the seals on the rear cockpit.
Plus I will vent the rear fuselage by putting small louvers on some access
doors.
I hope to buy one of those CO testers, to back findings. Ideas on the best
cheap one to buy?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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| Subject: | New RPA Prop Flag |
--> Yak-List message posted by: bill austin <billaustin@blomand.net>
I JUST TRADED FOR A REAL NICE 1980 L39C. Great Paint Garmin 430 pkg. It is
priced to move. If interested call 931 738 3939 Bill
Bill Austin Aircraft & Yacht Sales
730 Airport Road
Sparta TN 38583
(931) 738-3939
billaustinaircraft-yacht.com
billaustin@blomand.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New RPA Prop Flag
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
I got one of the first ones. I am looking forward to taking it to the
Shelby Co. Airshow in Birmingham this weekend. It looks really good and is
big enough to get their attention...if they can read and have half a brain
that is.
Viperdoc
> [Original Message]
> From: <ByronMFox@aol.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/13/2005 4:55:00 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: New RPA Prop Flag
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
>
> At airshows, do people finger your prop and gills? At Viperdoc's
suggestion,
> you can now purchase a "Please Look But Don't Touch" RPA Prop Flag for
$30 at
> the RPA On-line Store.
> (See: http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx)
>
> It's designed to fit Yak 52 and CJ-6 prop blades as well as most any
other.
> Short of an electric shock, it'll keep the kids away.
>
> Thanks, Blitz
>
> Byron M Fox
> The RPA Store
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>
>
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