Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/22/05


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:21 AM - Re: Airbus (John W. Cox)
     2. 03:40 AM - Re: Airbus (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     3. 05:43 AM - Bus Landing (Jeff Linebaugh)
     4. 05:58 AM - BBS and Primer problems (Jeff Linebaugh)
     5. 06:01 AM - Re: Bus Landing (Roger Kemp)
     6. 06:26 AM - F-15 Wing Write-up (Dan Unger)
     7. 07:04 AM - Re: BBS and Primer problems (Fraser, Gus)
     8. 07:09 AM - airbus (Terry)
     9. 07:15 AM - Re: Airbus (Ernest Martinez)
    10. 07:15 AM - Re: Bus Landing (Fraser, Gus)
    11. 09:10 AM - Re: Bus Landing (Ernest Martinez)
    12. 09:29 AM - Re: Bus Landing (Kevin Pilling)
    13. 11:06 AM - Re: Airbus (Roger Kemp)
    14. 11:23 AM - Re: Bus Landing (Roger Kemp)
    15. 11:25 AM - Re: Airbus (Ernest Martinez)
    16. 02:25 PM - Re: Airbus (Terry)
    17. 06:08 PM - Airbus (Frank Haertlein)
    18. 08:51 PM - Air Bottles (Timothy Gagnon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:21:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Airbus
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot has a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go back naturally. Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he used all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? John Cox Heavy Check Mechanic -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez Subject: Yak-List: Airbus --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? What a landing!!! Ernie


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    Time: 03:40:45 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: Ho hum. (What can you say? It's made by the French.) A hundred years ago, we had two tires blow on our 747 right wing gear and go right though the wing. Left a hole as big as a door. We landed of course on the rims and even taxied to the terminal with our fire trucks in tow. The bottom of the wing looked like we'd been hit by flak, there were so many holes. We couldn't shut down #3 normally because that circuit was in a wiring bundle cut in that hole. But that was a hundred years ago. :-/ I don't know how our CJs or Yaks would respond to that kind of nose wheel failure. I'd like to think that the fork of the nose wheel would sustain the weight and act as a skid, while being ground down and the airplane stopped before becoming a stub. I believe major damage would occurred to the fire wall area if the failure left a stub. The prop would definitely be toast. The surface better be smooth and hard. I've seen Yaks and CJs taxied on their main wheel rims after tires coming off - all on hard surfaces runways and taxiways. Other than needing new rims and tires, no other damage. Can't do it on sod. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot has a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go back naturally. Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he used all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? John Cox Heavy Check Mechanic -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez Subject: Yak-List: Airbus --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? What a landing!!! Ernie


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    Time: 05:43:31 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> Looks like somebody is going to be replacing a whole lot of runway centerline lights at LAX! Linedog


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    Time: 05:58:29 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: BBS and Primer problems
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> Gus, Thanks for your time on the BBS...I think it will be valuable addition. I just found this post on the Interavia list, but thought it needs filing on this list, as I just went through the same exact problem with my M14P powered CJ: "As you may know, I have been grounded for 9 days due to the primer not being able to deliver fuel to the engine. Both would get stuck in the out position after 1 - 2 pumps. Engine would not start with insufficient fuel After blowing 2 gaskets inside the primer pump/handle itself, the problem was found by the mechanics in the nozzle at the engine intake. Carbon buildup closed the nozzle blocking fuel flow. After removal and cleaning engine received fuel to start. BUT now 2 gaskets need replacing (smile). Said to have been from long taxiing at low power settings causing plugs and nozzles to foul." Guys, I had the same exact problem. After talking with the Deer Valley guys this seems to be a rather common occurrence. If your primer locks up, don t force it! Just pull the primer line off at the supercharger, remove the injector", and clean it. There are 4 very minute holes that the fuel passes through to vaporize it into the intake system. Trying to force the primer just results in more work on the primer too! Safe Flying! Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net CJ-6P N621CJ Memphis, TN


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    Time: 06:01:30 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> He duunnn ggoooddd....dunn goood! Seems Dennis knows the driver! Agree, LAX is gonna have to fill in the divets! Hey, but a few centerline lights and asphalt is cheaper than the price it would've cost for all those personal injury lawyers had he not! I'm sure they are out there still hawking the fight though looking to turn a success story to a profit! something about PTSD and tripping coming the ladder or walking across the ramp slipping in the concert expansion spacer! Doc > [Original Message] > From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > To: yak-list@matronics. com <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 9/22/2005 7:52:20 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > Looks like somebody is going to be replacing a whole lot of runway > centerline lights at LAX! > > Linedog > >


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    Time: 06:26:48 AM PST US
    From: Dan Unger <danunger@direcway.com>
    Subject: F-15 Wing Write-up
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Dan Unger <danunger@direcway.com> Air Bus Driver had it easy...


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    Time: 07:04:57 AM PST US
    From: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
    Subject: BBS and Primer problems
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com> Jeff, See this is the value I had never heard about this I suggested to Derric last week that on the SP the fuel shut off is electro mechanical unlike the Yak. I was convinced that it was this solenoid that had failed. Just shows how wrong you can be and the value of this information. Next service I will pull mine and clean it on spec. I have also copied this post to the M14P section. Does the Hosani have the same system ? If any of you had a stupid little problem like this and you think sure others have seen this so I will not pass it on you would be wrong. Some may have but others have not. One important issue I want to capture that seems to have been lost in time is the issue with the carb. The one where there is a nut on the top, back side that should be wire locked and if it is not the nut can come loose causing fuel starvation and a dead engine. I would like to capture details on this issue so If you have details and better still pictures please either post them yourself, preferred ( http://notasukhoi.com/sme ) or send the details to me and I will post it for you. In fact if you want to just lurk and you have information to share please just send me details and I will capture it for you. BTW I understand that http://notasukhoi.com/sme can be tough to remember so I have added a button on the base site http://notasukhoi.com to take you to the maint records. This note goes out to the heavy hitters, you know who you are, the guys in the business who have seen it all before. Your experience is crucial. Please spend the time to record your experience so that others may live. Not bad 1.5 days and 23 sign ups and a lot of great feedback thanks to all. Gus Fraser -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Linebaugh Subject: Yak-List: BBS and Primer problems --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" --> <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> Gus, Thanks for your time on the BBS...I think it will be valuable addition. I just found this post on the Interavia list, but thought it needs filing on this list, as I just went through the same exact problem with my M14P powered CJ: "As you may know, I have been grounded for 9 days due to the primer not being able to deliver fuel to the engine. Both would get stuck in the out position after 1 - 2 pumps. Engine would not start with insufficient fuel After blowing 2 gaskets inside the primer pump/handle itself, the problem was found by the mechanics in the nozzle at the engine intake. Carbon buildup closed the nozzle blocking fuel flow. After removal and cleaning engine received fuel to start. BUT now 2 gaskets need replacing (smile). Said to have been from long taxiing at low power settings causing plugs and nozzles to foul." Guys, I had the same exact problem. After talking with the Deer Valley guys this seems to be a rather common occurrence. If your primer locks up, don t force it! Just pull the primer line off at the supercharger, remove the injector", and clean it. There are 4 very minute holes that the fuel passes through to vaporize it into the intake system. Trying to force the primer just results in more work on the primer too! Safe Flying! Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net CJ-6P N621CJ Memphis, TN


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    Time: 07:09:09 AM PST US
    From: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
    Subject: airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net> The nose wheel scissors are often disconnected during push back to allow a tighter turning radius in the ramp area. If the pin is not properly inserted after the pushback maneuver this incident too saw on TV can be the result. It would not be the first time, Terry


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    Time: 07:15:37 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> What I meant in my question is, does the wheel articulate on retraction to go into the wheel well, or does it just move fore and aft. I'm just trying to figure out if this was a retraction system failure or a steering system failure, or if jupiter was aligned with mars. Ernie On 9/22/05, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: > > Ho hum. (What can you say? It's made by the French.) A hundred years ago, > we had two tires blow on our 747 right wing gear and go right though the > wing. Left a hole as big as a door. We landed of course on the rims and even > taxied to the terminal with our fire trucks in tow. The bottom of the wing > looked like we'd been hit by flak, there were so many holes. We couldn't shut > down #3 normally because that circuit was in a wiring bundle cut in that > hole. But that was a hundred years ago. :-/ > > I don't know how our CJs or Yaks would respond to that kind of nose wheel > failure. I'd like to think that the fork of the nose wheel would sustain the > weight and act as a skid, while being ground down and the airplane stopped > before becoming a stub. I believe major damage would occurred to the fire wall > area if the failure left a stub. The prop would definitely be toast. The > surface better be smooth and hard. I've seen Yaks and CJs taxied on their > main wheel rims after tires coming off - all on hard surfaces runways and > taxiways. Other than needing new rims and tires, no other damage. Can't do it on > sod. > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot has > a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. > Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go > back naturally. > > Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he used > all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? > > John Cox > Heavy Check Mechanic > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > Martinez > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Airbus > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? > > What a landing!!! > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 07:15:51 AM PST US
    From: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
    Subject: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com> Did anyone else notice an aspect of the "fire". There was no serious flames until the nose wheel hit the first white line. Then, as the jockey did such a great job of keeping it on the center line, as he went over each line the intensity of the flames increased dramatically. Note to self keep the aircraft metal away from the white lines ! Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: RE: Yak-List: Bus Landing --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> He duunnn ggoooddd....dunn goood! Seems Dennis knows the driver! Agree, LAX is gonna have to fill in the divets! Hey, but a few centerline lights and asphalt is cheaper than the price it would've cost for all those personal injury lawyers had he not! I'm sure they are out there still hawking the fight though looking to turn a success story to a profit! something about PTSD and tripping coming the ladder or walking across the ramp slipping in the concert expansion spacer! Doc > [Original Message] > From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > To: yak-list@matronics. com <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 9/22/2005 7:52:20 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > Looks like somebody is going to be replacing a whole lot of runway > centerline lights at LAX! > > Linedog > >


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    Time: 09:10:50 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> If you watch closely the pilot is holding the nosewheel off even after the wheel made contact. You can see the strut compressing slowly as the smoke and fire intensifies. The fire was due to the rubber burning. tire rubber/O2/heat make a great rocket fuel, which is what was used in Spaceship 1. Ernie On 9/22/05, Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser@gs.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com> > > Did anyone else notice an aspect of the "fire". There was no serious flames > until the nose wheel hit the first white line. Then, as the jockey did such > a great job of keeping it on the center line, as he went over each line the > intensity of the flames increased dramatically. Note to self keep the > aircraft metal away from the white lines ! > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > He duunnn ggoooddd....dunn goood! Seems Dennis knows the driver! Agree, LAX > is gonna have to fill in the divets! Hey, but a few centerline lights and > asphalt is cheaper than the price it would've cost for all those personal > injury lawyers had he not! I'm sure they are out there still hawking the > fight though looking to turn a success story to a profit! something about > PTSD and tripping coming the ladder or walking across the ramp slipping in > the concert expansion spacer! > Doc > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > To: yak-list@matronics. com <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: 9/22/2005 7:52:20 AM > > Subject: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" > <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > > > Looks like somebody is going to be replacing a whole lot of runway > > centerline lights at LAX! > > > > Linedog > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:29:23 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
    Subject: Re: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com> Aluminium wheel hubs are ditto a great source of highly combustible material once hot enough. kp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Bus Landing > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > If you watch closely the pilot is holding the nosewheel off even after > the wheel made contact. You can see the strut compressing slowly as > the smoke and fire intensifies. The fire was due to the rubber > burning. tire rubber/O2/heat make a great rocket fuel, which is what > was used in Spaceship 1. >


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    Time: 11:06:59 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> It was Jupiter trying ot mount Mars and someone forgot to re- pin the scissors after pushback. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 9/22/2005 9:15:28 AM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airbus > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > What I meant in my question is, does the wheel articulate on > retraction to go into the wheel well, or does it just move fore and > aft. > > I'm just trying to figure out if this was a retraction system failure > or a steering system failure, or if jupiter was aligned with mars. > > Ernie > > On 9/22/05, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > > > In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: > > > > Ho hum. (What can you say? It's made by the French.) A hundred years ago, > > we had two tires blow on our 747 right wing gear and go right though the > > wing. Left a hole as big as a door. We landed of course on the rims and even > > taxied to the terminal with our fire trucks in tow. The bottom of the wing > > looked like we'd been hit by flak, there were so many holes. We couldn't shut > > down #3 normally because that circuit was in a wiring bundle cut in that > > hole. But that was a hundred years ago. :-/ > > > > I don't know how our CJs or Yaks would respond to that kind of nose wheel > > failure. I'd like to think that the fork of the nose wheel would sustain the > > weight and act as a skid, while being ground down and the airplane stopped > > before becoming a stub. I believe major damage would occurred to the fire wall > > area if the failure left a stub. The prop would definitely be toast. The > > surface better be smooth and hard. I've seen Yaks and CJs taxied on their > > main wheel rims after tires coming off - all on hard surfaces runways and > > taxiways. Other than needing new rims and tires, no other damage. Can't do it on > > sod. > > > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > > > It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot has > > a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. > > Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go > > back naturally. > > > > Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he used > > all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? > > > > John Cox > > Heavy Check Mechanic > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > > Martinez > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Yak-List: Airbus > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > > > Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? > > > > What a landing!!! > > > > Ernie > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:23:25 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Bus Landing
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> And don't fly with aluminum rims. Can't do that. So in the YAK, be prepared to ground egrees asap if the flames do not go out after using up 9800 ft of the runway. But then again, you do not really want to get on the binders. Unless you like sliding down the runway on your nose or even worse, on you back. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser@gs.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 9/22/2005 9:15:44 AM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com> > > Did anyone else notice an aspect of the "fire". There was no serious flames > until the nose wheel hit the first white line. Then, as the jockey did such > a great job of keeping it on the center line, as he went over each line the > intensity of the flames increased dramatically. Note to self keep the > aircraft metal away from the white lines ! > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > He duunnn ggoooddd....dunn goood! Seems Dennis knows the driver! Agree, LAX > is gonna have to fill in the divets! Hey, but a few centerline lights and > asphalt is cheaper than the price it would've cost for all those personal > injury lawyers had he not! I'm sure they are out there still hawking the > fight though looking to turn a success story to a profit! something about > PTSD and tripping coming the ladder or walking across the ramp slipping in > the concert expansion spacer! > Doc > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > To: yak-list@matronics. com <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: 9/22/2005 7:52:20 AM > > Subject: Yak-List: Bus Landing > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" > <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > > > Looks like somebody is going to be replacing a whole lot of runway > > centerline lights at LAX! > > > > Linedog > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:25:02 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I was talking to an Airbus driver who says this is impossible. Without the pin you couldnt steer the plane to taxi. He would have never made it to the runway. Ernie On 9/22/05, Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > It was Jupiter trying ot mount Mars and someone forgot to re- pin the > scissors after pushback. > Doc > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: 9/22/2005 9:15:28 AM > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airbus > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > > > What I meant in my question is, does the wheel articulate on > > retraction to go into the wheel well, or does it just move fore and > > aft. > > > > I'm just trying to figure out if this was a retraction system failure > > or a steering system failure, or if jupiter was aligned with mars. > > > > Ernie > > > > On 9/22/05, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: > > > > > > Ho hum. (What can you say? It's made by the French.) A hundred > years ago, > > > we had two tires blow on our 747 right wing gear and go right though > the > > > wing. Left a hole as big as a door. We landed of course on the rims > and even > > > taxied to the terminal with our fire trucks in tow. The bottom of the > wing > > > looked like we'd been hit by flak, there were so many holes. We > couldn't shut > > > down #3 normally because that circuit was in a wiring bundle cut in > that > > > hole. But that was a hundred years ago. :-/ > > > > > > I don't know how our CJs or Yaks would respond to that kind of nose > wheel > > > failure. I'd like to think that the fork of the nose wheel would > sustain the > > > weight and act as a skid, while being ground down and the airplane > stopped > > > before becoming a stub. I believe major damage would occurred to the > fire wall > > > area if the failure left a stub. The prop would definitely be toast. > The > > > surface better be smooth and hard. I've seen Yaks and CJs taxied on > their > > > main wheel rims after tires coming off - all on hard surfaces runways > and > > > taxiways. Other than needing new rims and tires, no other damage. > Can't do it on > > > sod. > > > > > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > > > > > It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot has > > > a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. > > > Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go > > > back naturally. > > > > > > Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he used > > > all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? > > > > > > John Cox > > > Heavy Check Mechanic > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest > > > Martinez > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Yak-List: Airbus > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > > > > > Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? > > > > > > What a landing!!! > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:25:36 PM PST US
    From: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net> You can steer for a while with an improperly seated pin. Should it pop out during gear retraction you have a problem. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airbus > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > I was talking to an Airbus driver who says this is impossible. Without > the pin you couldnt steer the plane to taxi. He would have never made > it to the runway. > > Ernie > > On 9/22/05, Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> >> >> It was Jupiter trying ot mount Mars and someone forgot to re- pin the >> scissors after pushback. >> Doc >> >> >> > [Original Message] >> > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> >> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> > Date: 9/22/2005 9:15:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airbus >> > >> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> >> > >> > What I meant in my question is, does the wheel articulate on >> > retraction to go into the wheel well, or does it just move fore and >> > aft. >> > >> > I'm just trying to figure out if this was a retraction system failure >> > or a steering system failure, or if jupiter was aligned with mars. >> > >> > Ernie >> > >> > On 9/22/05, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote: >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com >> > > >> > > >> > > In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> > > johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: >> > > >> > > Ho hum. (What can you say? It's made by the French.) A hundred >> years ago, >> > > we had two tires blow on our 747 right wing gear and go right though >> the >> > > wing. Left a hole as big as a door. We landed of course on the >> > > rims >> and even >> > > taxied to the terminal with our fire trucks in tow. The bottom of >> > > the >> wing >> > > looked like we'd been hit by flak, there were so many holes. We >> couldn't shut >> > > down #3 normally because that circuit was in a wiring bundle cut in >> that >> > > hole. But that was a hundred years ago. :-/ >> > > >> > > I don't know how our CJs or Yaks would respond to that kind of nose >> wheel >> > > failure. I'd like to think that the fork of the nose wheel would >> sustain the >> > > weight and act as a skid, while being ground down and the airplane >> stopped >> > > before becoming a stub. I believe major damage would occurred to >> > > the >> fire wall >> > > area if the failure left a stub. The prop would definitely be >> > > toast. >> The >> > > surface better be smooth and hard. I've seen Yaks and CJs taxied >> > > on >> their >> > > main wheel rims after tires coming off - all on hard surfaces >> > > runways >> and >> > > taxiways. Other than needing new rims and tires, no other damage. >> Can't do it on >> > > sod. >> > > >> > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby >> > > >> > > >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" >> > > <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >> > > >> > > It has hardstops at 60 degrees left and right of center. The pilot >> > > has >> > > a control stick to the left of his leg to direct ground taxi ops. >> > > Beyond the stops, they shoot us during C check, cause it does not go >> > > back naturally. >> > > >> > > Something went amiss. It will be a great read. Did you see, he >> > > used >> > > all but 200 feet of the 10,000 run? >> > > >> > > John Cox >> > > Heavy Check Mechanic >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest >> > > Martinez >> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com >> > > Subject: Yak-List: Airbus >> > > >> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> >> > > >> > > Does the nose gear on an Airbus articulate??? >> > > >> > > What a landing!!! >> > > >> > > Ernie >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:08:45 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Airbus
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Don't know the truth of it but I hear if there is a failure in the computer controlled nose wheel steering the computer automatically slews the nose wheel fully right or left. If true, the engineers who designed that system should be shot. Frank


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    Time: 08:51:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Air Bottles
    From: Timothy Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Timothy Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com> Hey, I recently found some pinhole leaks in my emergency side bottle and am going to replace it. I have a new bottle en-route. What I will look to do is replace the main side in the not to distant future. There was talk of a fix out there in the forum of new manufacture bottles. Any word on the progress? I have a 3 liter bottle that is tango uniform that I would be willing to donate for the cause. Anyone... Tim N359FG Yak-50




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