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1. 03:01 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 10/08/05 (Rob Kent)
2. 07:10 AM - RE- Pics (NapeOne@aol.com)
3. 10:33 AM - engine change (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
4. 11:18 AM - Re: engine change (Roger Kemp)
5. 11:23 AM - Re: RE- Pics (Roger Kemp)
6. 11:29 AM - Re: Test Pics (ByronMFox@aol.com)
7. 11:35 AM - Re: engine change (Ernest Martinez)
8. 11:52 AM - Re: engine change (A. Dennis Savarese)
9. 12:40 PM - Re: engine change (Richard Basiliere)
10. 02:32 PM - Re: engine change (Kevin Pilling)
11. 02:55 PM - Re: engine change (Roger Kemp)
12. 02:58 PM - Re: engine change (Roger Kemp)
13. 03:00 PM - Re: engine change (Phil Cogan)
14. 05:09 PM - Re: engine change (Jim and Vivian)
15. 06:58 PM - Re: engine change (Jim and Vivian)
16. 07:38 PM - Re: engine change (Roger Kemp)
17. 07:44 PM - Re: engine change (cjpilot710@aol.com)
18. 08:52 PM - G limits on the CJ6 (JOE)
19. 08:54 PM - Re: Air lines (aaron marshall)
20. 09:24 PM - Re: G limits on the CJ6 (Walter Lannon)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 10/08/05 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Kent" <rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk>
Scott,
The Yk-55 parts catalogue shows the part number for the Yak-50 exhaust
system. This is also the same as the Yk-52 but without the heat muff.
Regards
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
Tel: +44 1628 829 165
Fax: +44 1628 828 961
>
> Time: 06:16:27 PM PST US
> From: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: exhaust systems available soon
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Any chance of the Yak-55 being added to your list?
>
> Scott
>
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Pics didn't come through on my computer. Am I doing something wrong?
David H.
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Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a Walter
601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a very
low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise would
be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would need
to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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Bob,
You still got to defeat the Clark Y airfoil. That is your big draggy wing hanging
out there like a big parasite. The TWs are not significantly faster because
of that. But man, you ought to go up stairs like a Raped Ape!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a Walter
601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a very
low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise would
be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would need
to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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Being allowed on the computer would be the problem!
Sorry Dave, you just T'd that one up so nicely. I'm sure you'll pay me back at
Selma. See ya this weekend!
Doc
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From:
Subject: Yak-List: RE- Pics
Pics didn't come through on my computer. Am I doing something wrong?
David H.
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Thanks, Craig. Got the pictures. Thought Matt didn't permit attachments, but
worked fine. ...Blitz
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Bob,
What do you want to do fly at VNE all day? Your fuel burn would be
atrocious, not to mention the cost of the engine mount, cowling, fuel
tanks. CG would be all out of whack causing you to mount the thing
waaaay out front. And it would be ugly as sin. There was actually a
thread about this several years ago, and someone actually posted a
pic.
Ernie
On 10/10/05, Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
> You still got to defeat the Clark Y airfoil. That is your big draggy wing
> hanging out there like a big parasite. The TWs are not significantly faster
> because of that. But man, you ought to go up stairs like a Raped Ape!
> Doc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
> To: Yak-List@matronics.com
> Sent: 10/10/2005 12:32:34 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: engine change
>
>
> Gentelmen:
>
> I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a
> Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at
> a very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in
> cruise would be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity
> that would need to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a
> conversation
>
> BOB SCHWARTZ
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
Ever wonder why Yakovlev didn't put a turboprop (doesn't matter what kind) in the
YAK 52M. It still will have the venerable M14.
Fuel capacity is certainly a problem. But not insurmountable. Even if you gained
25% in cruise speed (which I seriously doubt because of the Clark Y airfoil),
your fuel burn would at least double. I guess I would have a hard time justifying
twice the fuel burn for a minimal increase in cruise.
Lastly, for all of us round engine lovers, what a pity it would be to not be able
to distinguish a Yak from all the other spam cans when coming into the pattern.
Then if you ever tried to sell it, you'd probably have a rude awakening
about how desirable it is.
Just my 2 cents.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
To: Yak-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:48 AM
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a Walter
601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a very
low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise would
be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would need
to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
It's been done on a Sukhoi 26. I saw it at OSH a year ago - Kinda cool
- I wonder about the utility
Rick b
>>> schwartzcompany@att.net 10/10/2005 8:48:03 AM >>>
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about
putting a Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to
a good one at a very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how
much increase in cruise would be seen. Naturally there are issues
regarding fuel capacity that would need to be worked out. Engine would
be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
--> Yak-List message posted by: " Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
Check out http://www.russianaeros.com/SM2000.htm if you want to define ugly
!
Fly safe
kp
>
> Bob,
>
> What do you want to do fly at VNE all day? Your fuel burn would be
> atrocious, not to mention the cost of the engine mount, cowling, fuel
> tanks. CG would be all out of whack causing you to mount the thing
> waaaay out front. And it would be ugly as sin. There was actually a
> thread about this several years ago, and someone actually posted a
> pic.
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
Down and dirty...double that 2 cents.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
Ever wonder why Yakovlev didn't put a turboprop (doesn't matter what kind) in the
YAK 52M. It still will have the venerable M14.
Fuel capacity is certainly a problem. But not insurmountable. Even if you gained
25% in cruise speed (which I seriously doubt because of the Clark Y airfoil),
your fuel burn would at least double. I guess I would have a hard time justifying
twice the fuel burn for a minimal increase in cruise.
Lastly, for all of us round engine lovers, what a pity it would be to not be able
to distinguish a Yak from all the other spam cans when coming into the pattern.
Then if you ever tried to sell it, you'd probably have a rude awakening
about how desirable it is.
Just my 2 cents.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a Walter
601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a very
low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise would
be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would need
to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Youggly, would be the word!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Kevin Pilling <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/10/2005 4:31:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: " Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
>
> Check out http://www.russianaeros.com/SM2000.htm if you want to define
ugly
> !
>
> Fly safe
> kp
>
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > What do you want to do fly at VNE all day? Your fuel burn would be
> > atrocious, not to mention the cost of the engine mount, cowling, fuel
> > tanks. CG would be all out of whack causing you to mount the thing
> > waaaay out front. And it would be ugly as sin. There was actually a
> > thread about this several years ago, and someone actually posted a
> > pic.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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May I suggest using it in your toaster oven?
Or perhaps your Harley?
Oh, wait a minute, you were only joking!
Sorry,
Shortbus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT SCHWARTZ
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a
Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at
a very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in
cruise would be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity
that would need to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a
conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
Bob
The Yak-52 with the Gear hanging down, I don't think any type Engine will help
it go faster, a CJ -6 would work alot better, I had someone ask me about the
CJ a few Years ago.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
To: Yak-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a
Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a
very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise
would be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would
need to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
Bob
I have a picture I took in China of a CJ-6 that is single place and was made
for a Turbine, I can send it to you if your interested.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim and Vivian
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
Bob
The Yak-52 with the Gear hanging down, I don't think any type Engine will
help it go faster, a CJ -6 would work alot better, I had someone ask me about
the CJ a few Years ago.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
To: Yak-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting
a Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at
a very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise
would be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would
need to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
Jim,
T it up. The rest of us Yakkers would be interested in seeing it.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim and Vivian
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
Bob
I have a picture I took in China of a CJ-6 that is single place and was made for
a Turbine, I can send it to you if your interested.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim and Vivian
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
Bob
The Yak-52 with the Gear hanging down, I don't think any type Engine will help
it go faster, a CJ -6 would work alot better, I had someone ask me about the CJ
a few Years ago.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a Walter
601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a very
low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in cruise would
be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that would need
to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | Re: engine change |
In a message dated 10/10/2005 10:00:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimscjs@mbay.net writes:
4 years ago now, when Bushi Cheng came to OSK, one of the AZ Boys asked
Bushi at dinner about putting a Turboprop into a CJ. He looked at the guy kind-a
funny, than smiled and said he thought a whole "new design would be better".
The truth is the only thing you'd gain is better rate of climb and max
altitude.
That single seat CJ airplane with the slim nose that Jim saw in China, well
if its the one I saw at the PLAF museum out side of Beijing, that was a prop
for a war movie. It was suppose to be an American imperialist "F-84" in a
movie about Korea. At least that was what I was told by the museum's director.
I could see the out line of 'stars and bars' on the side were they had once
been painted, but they could have been PLAF 'star & bar' also.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Bob
I have a picture I took in China of a CJ-6 that is single place and was made
for a Turbine, I can send it to you if your interested.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: _Jim and Vivian_ (mailto:jimscjs@mbay.net)
Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine change
Bob
The Yak-52 with the Gear hanging down, I don't think any type Engine will
help it go faster, a CJ -6 would work alot better, I had someone ask me about
the CJ a few Years ago.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: _ROBERT SCHWARTZ_ (mailto:schwartzcompany@att.net)
Subject: Yak-List: engine change
Gentelmen:
I would like some input on an idea. What are the thoughts about putting a
Walter 601p turbo prop engine on the Yak 52. I have access to a good one at a
very low price and it seems interesting. I wonder how much increase in
cruise would be seen. Naturally there are issues regarding fuel capacity that
would need to be worked out. Engine would be lighter. Its worth a conversation
BOB SCHWARTZ
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| Subject: | G limits on the CJ6 |
Yakkers
Has anyone ever seen an official doc. showing allowable plus and minus "G" for
the CJ6 ?
Joe
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Might anyone know of a source for vented caps (that seal when inverted) that
will tolerate 5606 hydraulic fluid? My brake fluid resevoir has a cap with
a 20 thousandths hole in it and after any sort of negative G flight, most of
the fluid is pushed out of the small casister and down the side of my
airplane. Has any one else had this problem aand solved it?
Thanks
Aaron Marshall
YAK52TW
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| Subject: | Re: G limits on the CJ6 |
Hell yes Joe!!
I got it from you.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: JOE
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:51 PM
Subject: Yak-List: G limits on the CJ6
Yakkers
Has anyone ever seen an official doc. showing allowable plus and minus "G" for
the CJ6 ?
Joe
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