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1. 05:28 AM - Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (PSalter@aol.com)
2. 05:35 AM - Re: Whadizzit This one's for you DOC (Roger Kemp)
3. 06:02 AM - Pleasure of the List and warm Fuzzies (Roger Kemp)
4. 06:04 AM - Re: "Whaddizzitt?" (Cliff Umscheid)
5. 06:36 AM - EP of the Day (Roger Kemp)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: EP of the Day (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 07:36 AM - Re: EP of the Day (Craig Payne)
8. 07:42 AM - Re: EP of the Day (KingCJ6@aol.com)
9. 08:09 AM - Re: EP of the Day (Roger Kemp)
10. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: EP of the Day (Roger Kemp)
11. 08:16 AM - Re: EP of the Day (Roger Kemp)
12. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: EP of the Day (A. Dennis Savarese)
13. 08:44 AM - "Let's buy em ALL!" (Valkyre1)
14. 09:14 AM - Re: "Let's buy em ALL!" (Steve & Donna Hanshew)
15. 11:00 AM - Re: "Let's buy em ALL!" (Brian Lloyd)
16. 02:11 PM - Re: EP of the Day (Ernest Martinez)
17. 02:12 PM - Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (Ernest Martinez)
18. 04:09 PM - Re: "Whaddizzitt?" (cjpilot710@aol.com)
19. 04:10 PM - Re: Yak-list (cjpilot710@aol.com)
20. 04:50 PM - Re: "Whaddizzitt?" (Scott Aldrich)
21. 04:51 PM - Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (ByronMFox@aol.com)
22. 04:56 PM - Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (ByronMFox@aol.com)
23. 05:02 PM - Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve (David Marsh)
24. 05:04 PM - Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (marychuen@signaturehomes.com.hk)
25. 05:18 PM - Re: EP of the Day (A. Dennis Savarese)
26. 05:26 PM - Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount (N13472@aol.com)
27. 05:39 PM - Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve (A. Dennis Savarese)
28. 05:50 PM - Yaks from Lithuania (egon)
29. 05:58 PM - Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve (David Marsh)
30. 06:12 PM - Re: EP of the Day (FamilyGage@aol.com)
31. 06:33 PM - Re: Yaks from Lithuania (A. Dennis Savarese)
32. 06:36 PM - Re: EP of the Day (A. Dennis Savarese)
33. 06:45 PM - MORE (Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve) (A. Dennis Savarese)
34. 06:47 PM - Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve (A. Dennis Savarese)
35. 07:08 PM - Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve (David Marsh)
36. 07:12 PM - Camden, SC airshow. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
I need advice on how to mount my anti-submarine/crotch strap portion of my
new Hooker harness set on my CJ. Where should it be attached? To the seat,
or the floor with a doublers? What have other done?
While writing, I have a question about holes with fittings from my engine
compartment to the cockpit. My plane has what looks like fittings and holes
for heat on the left and right sides of the firewall. If not for heat, what
else could they be? The cowling also has a small scoop on the left side on the
bottom half. What was that used for?
Thanks
Phil
700HS CJ6-A (nearing certification)
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| Subject: | Re: Whadizzit This one's for you DOC |
True.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Umscheid
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Whadizzit This one's for you DOC
Doc, These one holers lend new meaning to the word "togetherness"'
Cliff
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:15:05 -0500 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> writes:
It,
Somewhere in here we went from buying a YAK, sorry, CJ to Cum Baa Yah. Now I understand
the Valkyrie 1 and the V Hog association. At first I thought along the
lines of the defunct high altitude supersonic bomber with an affinity for hot
brakes and brake fires. Bottom line, all the former Eastern Bloc A/C have their
appeal and are fun to fly , al thought some of them are ugly as hell. But,
then again, we have built a few ugly ones too...usually for the NAVY!
Now on to the reference to why do we have to evaluate the capabilities of each
type of aircraft? I think that all began when some bugger took a pistol airborne
and started shooting at his adversary in WWI. After that we military types
decided it was best to learn as much about our adversaries aircraft so we could
employ our strengths and exploit their weaknesses. So in the perfect world
we would be drinking their whiskey in their bar and as Francis so "succinctly"
said "a few Marines looking for your sisters."
So Val, get a Red Star A/C and have some economical fun! It'll be the most fun
you can have with your cloths on which ever gender you are. And Clif the reason
you need a family model is so you don't get your "Sticks" confused while trying
to fly the ladies around in your one holer!
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Pleasure of the List and warm Fuzzies |
Cliff,
You are right on both accords. Enjoy the list for the sometimes pointless jousting
that is meant to be totally harmless although there have been some occasions
of heated venting. It does promote camaraderie among CJs and YAKs in a healthy
way. After all, it 's a male thing to worry about the strenght of the stream
and the size of the Pitot.
The list also provides pretty much instantaneous reply to a question about our
respective aircraft. Granted we do not see a lot of questions out of the smokers
in those kerosene burners though. If you look at the warbirds list, it is dead.
About the only thing that gets posted is Matt's occasional ROE"S.
The list challenges me to look at systems on my aircraft regularly when questions
come up that I feel fuzzy on. It is kinda like the EP of the day at the Mass
Brief before going to brief to fly in the squadron. It is a chance to get everyone
thinking about a system that could ruin your whole day. A chance to think
about what is going on when it breaks on the ground verses in the air.
Maybe a new topic for the List-- EP of the day!
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Re: "Whaddizzitt?" |
Dear Valkyre
Just a hasty note to say that I have put it all together, actually , it
came flooding back in a tidal wave of memory. Suffice it to say that your
publicity preceeds you; now, I recall things long dormant in my memory.
One quick Q , is your father still living? More from me later , I've got
an oil change to get rid of first.
In haste,
CLIFF
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:38:53 -0600 "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
writes:
Hey again Guys,
Yep, I'm still "lurking" around out here as Doc so succinctly put it.
I'm also getting a lot of chuckles as well as info on the YAK and CJ6 re:
my intent to purchase. Evidently I started some friendly fire amongst you
which you are enjoying as much as I am.
I've received information on a beautiful and fully loaded almost new
YAK for sale by two of my airline brethren. They love it, but both
airlines are in or near bankruptcy and taking their ton of flesh out of
the pilots.
Next Tues I will be going to Portland to fly and inspect the
particular CJ6 that I am considering. (I'm excited for sure.) It's older
than the YAK, we will see what comes of it. That's your first mystery.
The second mystery for some of you is in the form of a riddle. (
Cliff, "older than dirt" might enjoy this more than most).
Here goes... "It rides a Harley V-Rod. It has been in martial arts
for 19 years and teaches "cockpit combat" to flight crews. It flew
Captain in DC-3s in Africa when it was 23 to build flight time. It was
one of the first Police Aerial Patrol pilots for the LA Sheriffs. It is
currently writing an action adventure book on airlines and terrorism (
Chapter 14 so far) and it's taking it's open water SCUBA Certification
test today to go dive in Eluthera.
It adores the opposite gender and they generally find it quite
attractive as well. It flies because (as Brian reminds us) "It releases
my mind from the tyranny of petty things." It has never had a problem
operating well with and enjoying the members of it's flight crew.
(This one's for Walt) It flew North American AT-6's upon occasion
out of Van Nuys when it was getting it's private pilot license age 17
years old. Like so many of us when we were kids, washed them for
occasional flight time.
(I know this is long guys, but I'm having way too much fun here.)
It's 6 ft tall and blond. It was in the first class of Federal
Flight Deck Officers after 911. It loves instinctive archery and shooting
it's LEM H/K 40cal. for practice upon occasion. It has also just finished
painting an 8'X20' mural of the Salt Lake Valley and Delta aircraft for
the Chief Pilots Office.
It wants to purchase one of those wonderful "Boy's Toys" and join in
the fun with the YAK guys. It is most appreciative of their varied and
colorful input.
"Whaddizzitt?!!"
Tank, that was truly an appropriate and well written ode to the CJ. I
did buy American with the V-Rod at least, although I'm not generally a
Harley fan. A friend of mine who is a FAM gave me a bit of a hard time
about "what are you doing buying a CHINESE or RUSSIAN military airplane
you unpatriotic thing?" I just told him that I was taking a machine of
war out of their hands and providing a last line of defense for the
USA.(laugh).
Thanks also to the very entertaining Cliff, EAL and his wonderful
arch nemesis, "Pappy".
My appreciation to Tim as well. That is, after all, the bottom
line. "Whatever suits my mission".
I do feel warmly welcomed by all of you and continue to enjoy your
comments on the YAK list. Indeed I AM still lurking about out here and
probably will be for some time.
The final question. Will I succumb to "That Fatal Feminine Flaw of
emotion based decision making" or will I do the sweaty double balled
testosterone based thing and succumb to a male on male challenge? The
mystery remains. Stay tuned for the next episode of "ALL MY YAKS".
I love it.
You guys fly safe out there and keep the comments coming.
Fraternally, - "Val"
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Yakkers,
I'll get this thread started.
You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the fire,
warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup, systems check,
cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the wild blue yonder.
When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main red gearup light
does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone out. A quick look
at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with the poles showing
flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was 40 ATM and is now 35
ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is changed and as the flight
progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to G up the aircraft does
not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the barbara pole remains down
in the wing.
So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side of
a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with fuel
balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask your pitter
is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you bunted a
little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He states he
was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk came from the aft
end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB uneventfully. On shutdown, you
notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You inspect the right main with nothing
obviously hanging off.
What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight? Was it
just the light burned out and you need to change it?
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
I'll refrain from answering this Doc since I was involved in the diagnosis and
repair. But a great, thought provoking question for the group!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp
To: yak-list
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: Yak-List: EP of the Day
Yakkers,
I'll get this thread started.
You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the fire,
warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup, systems check,
cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the wild blue
yonder. When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main red gearup
light does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone out. A quick
look at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with the poles showing
flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was 40 ATM and is now
35 ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is changed and as the
flight progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to G up the aircraft does
not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the barbara pole remains down
in the wing.
So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side
of a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with fuel
balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask your pitter
is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you bunted
a little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He states he
was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk came from the
aft end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB uneventfully. On shutdown,
you notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You inspect the right main with nothing
obviously hanging off.
What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight? Was
it just the light burned out and you need to change it?
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
>Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
>eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT
>
>
Doc,
- Your first problem is that you are SOLO, that means no rear seat baggage!
- Why not push the lamp test light (on all CJ's) to test for burned out bulb?
- Did the Emergency system air pressure guage read the same as the main? (CJ is
separate, charging off the same compressor)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
Did the pilot simply push the "bulb check" button to confirm a working bulb
prior to jinxing the a/c?
Dave
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
Yakkers,
I'll get this thread started.
You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a
bright eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the
fire, warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup, systems
check, cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the wild blue
yonder. When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main red gearup
light does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone out. A quick
look at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with the poles
showing flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was 40 ATM and is
now
35 ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is changed and as the
flight progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to G up the aircraft
does not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the barbara pole remains
down in the wing.
So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side
of a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with
fuel balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask your
pitter is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you bunted
a little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He states
he was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk came from the
aft end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB uneventfully. On shutdown,
you notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You inspect the right main with
nothing obviously hanging off.
What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight? Was
it just the light burned out and you need to change it?
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
Dave,
Systems test accomplished prior to launch during engine warm-up confirmed all lights
operational. After shutdown, lights tested and were all on.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
Did the pilot simply push the "bulb check" button to confirm a working bulb prior
to jinxing the a/c?
Dave
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
Yakkers,
I'll get this thread started.
You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the fire,
warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup, systems check,
cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the wild blue yonder.
When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main red gearup light
does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone out. A quick look
at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with the poles showing
flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was 40 ATM and is now 35
ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is changed and as the flight
progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to G up the aircraft does
not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the barbara pole remains down
in the wing.
So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side of
a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with fuel
balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask your pitter
is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you bunted a
little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He states he
was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk came from the aft
end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB uneventfully. On shutdown, you
notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You inspect the right main with nothing
obviously hanging off.
What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight? Was it
just the light burned out and you need to change it?
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
Craig,
1) Solo should read single ship.
2) Lights tested and were lit.
3) Emergency pressure was 8 atm.
Dennis, you know the answer so let this thread run a little farther before answering.
Guys, I'm kicking this over to Dennis because I have to head up to Birmingham.
My father-in-law has become quit ill rather suddenly.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
Subject: Yak-List: Re: EP of the Day
>Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
>eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT
>
>
Doc,
- Your first problem is that you are SOLO, that means no rear seat baggage!
- Why not push the lamp test light (on all CJ's) to test for burned out bulb?
- Did the Emergency system air pressure guage read the same as the main? (CJ is
separate, charging off the same compressor)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
Thanks Dennis,
Will call you on the way to Birmingham.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
I'll refrain from answering this Doc since I was involved in the diagnosis and
repair. But a great, thought provoking question for the group!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp
Subject: Yak-List: EP of the Day
Yakkers,
I'll get this thread started.
You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the fire,
warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup, systems check,
cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the wild blue yonder.
When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main red gearup light
does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone out. A quick look
at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with the poles showing
flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was 40 ATM and is now 35
ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is changed and as the flight
progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to G up the aircraft does
not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the barbara pole remains down
in the wing.
So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side of
a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with fuel
balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask your pitter
is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you bunted a
little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He states he
was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk came from the aft
end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB uneventfully. On shutdown, you
notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You inspect the right main with nothing
obviously hanging off.
What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight? Was it
just the light burned out and you need to change it?
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
OK.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: EP of the Day
Craig,
1) Solo should read single ship.
2) Lights tested and were lit.
3) Emergency pressure was 8 atm.
Dennis, you know the answer so let this thread run a little farther before answering.
Guys, I'm kicking this over to Dennis because I have to head up to Birmingham.
My father-in-law has become quit ill rather suddenly.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: 10/30/2005 9:36:15 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: EP of the Day
>Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a bright
>eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT
>
>
Doc,
- Your first problem is that you are SOLO, that means no rear seat baggage!
- Why not push the lamp test light (on all CJ's) to test for burned out bulb?
- Did the Emergency system air pressure guage read the same as the main? (CJ
is separate, charging off the same compressor)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | "Let's buy em ALL!" |
Dear Guys,
An update on the CJ6 etc. As per some very excellent advice given by your
members, I'll probably visit another YAK/CJ parts and Maintainence facility
in Calif. and do more research as well. I'm still going to fly the CJ6 in PDX
this week.
Long ago I came to the realization that I both complain and debate "recreationally".(
I do it because it's FUN.) If I had the wherewithal, I'd buy one of
each of these wonderful aircraft for every day of the week. I love the differences.
That's what makes it interesting.
Meanwhile, I have been learning a lot from you Yakkety Yakkers and it's obvious
that you all want me to have what you love most so that I can enjoy it
as well.
I am still leaning strongly toward the Nanchang and I suspect that is what
I'll go with (sorry Cliff). It suits my particular profile for happiness, and
I've never competed with anyone but myself.
My ultimate dream machine is the SR-71, but I don't have any illusions about
ever having the opportunity to fly one. Even if I did get the opportunity
and price were no object, I have no doubts that I'd want to make my final daily
flying fun something more along the lines of the CJ/YAK that you're all doing.
You all know how it is when people ask you what your favorite airplane was
out of all that you have flown. Difficult question.
I'll keep you informed on the progress toward joining the Yakkety Yak ranks,
and look forward to seeing what new wisdom comes up on this website daily.
Fraternally, - Val (P.S. IT is a girl, enough of my torturing you guys. LOL)
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| Subject: | "Let's buy em ALL!" |
Val,
Contact me off list - dhanshew@cinci.rr.com
Donna Hanshew
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Valkyre1
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:44 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: "Let's buy em ALL!"
Dear Guys,
An update on the CJ6 etc. As per some very excellent advice given
by your members, I'll probably visit another YAK/CJ parts and Maintainence
facility in Calif. and do more research as well. I'm still going to fly the
CJ6 in PDX this week.
Long ago I came to the realization that I both complain and debate
"recreationally".( I do it because it's FUN.) If I had the wherewithal, I'd
buy one of each of these wonderful aircraft for every day of the week. I
love the differences. That's what makes it interesting.
Meanwhile, I have been learning a lot from you Yakkety Yakkers and
it's obvious that you all want me to have what you love most so that I can
enjoy it as well.
I am still leaning strongly toward the Nanchang and I suspect that
is what I'll go with (sorry Cliff). It suits my particular profile for
happiness, and I've never competed with anyone but myself.
My ultimate dream machine is the SR-71, but I don't have any
illusions about ever having the opportunity to fly one. Even if I did get
the opportunity and price were no object, I have no doubts that I'd want to
make my final daily flying fun something more along the lines of the CJ/YAK
that you're all doing.
You all know how it is when people ask you what your favorite
airplane was out of all that you have flown. Difficult question.
I'll keep you informed on the progress toward joining the Yakkety
Yak ranks, and look forward to seeing what new wisdom comes up on this
website daily.
Fraternally, - Val (P.S. IT is a girl, enough of my torturing you guys.
LOL)
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| Subject: | Re: "Let's buy em ALL!" |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Valkyre1 wrote:
> You all know how it is when people ask you what your favorite
> airplane was out of all that you have flown. Difficult question.
No, that one is easy. It is the last airplane I flew. I fall in love with each
and every one all over again when I push the go-handle forward.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sounds to me like the uplocks didnt engage, probably due to an air
leak in one of the actuators, so you cant get the gear all the way up.
Ernie
On 10/30/05, Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Dennis,
> Will call you on the way to Birmingham.
> Doc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: A. Dennis Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 10/30/2005 9:12:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
>
>
> I'll refrain from answering this Doc since I was involved in the diagnosis
> and repair. But a great, thought provoking question for the group!
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Kemp
> To: yak-list
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:35 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: EP of the Day
>
>
> Yakkers,
> I'll get this thread started.
> You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with a
> bright eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light the
> fire, warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup,
> systems check, cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into the
> wild blue yonder. When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right main
> red gearup light does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have gone
> out. A quick look at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted with
> the poles showing flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO was
> 40 ATM and is now 35 ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power is
> changed and as the flight progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down to
> G up the aircraft does not cause a change in the unlit R main light but the
> barbara pole remains down in the wing.
> So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back side
> of a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well with
> fuel balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask
> your pitter is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since you
> bunted a little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side. He
> states he was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk
> came from the aft end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB
> uneventfully. On shutdown, you notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You
> inspect the right main with nothing obviously hanging off.
> What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight?
> Was it just the light burned out and you need to change it?
> Doc
>
> Roger "Doc" Kemp
> viperdoc@mindspring.com
> Aint no sound like a Radial
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I dont have a hooker, but my cortch strap attaches under the seat.
Ernie
On 10/30/05, PSalter@aol.com <PSalter@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I need advice on how to mount my anti-submarine/crotch strap portion of my
> new Hooker harness set on my CJ. Where should it be attached? To the seat,
> or the floor with a doublers? What have other done?
>
> While writing, I have a question about holes with fittings from my engine
> compartment to the cockpit. My plane has what looks like fittings and holes
> for heat on the left and right sides of the firewall. If not for heat, what
> else could they be? The cowling also has a small scoop on the left side on
> the bottom half. What was that used for?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Phil
> 700HS CJ6-A (nearing certification)
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| Subject: | Re: "Whaddizzitt?" |
In a message dated 10/29/2005 9:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Valkyre1@comcast.net writes:
God! If you're a woman I divorce my wife of 40 years and marry you! If not
- - - well welcome to the club fella.
Pappy
Hey again Guys,
Yep, I'm still "lurking" around out here as Doc so succinctly put it.
I'm also getting a lot of chuckles as well as info on the YAK and CJ6 re: my
intent to purchase. Evidently I started some friendly fire amongst you which
you are enjoying as much as I am.
I've received information on a beautiful and fully loaded almost new
YAK for sale by two of my airline brethren. They love it, but both airlines are
in or near bankruptcy and taking their ton of flesh out of the pilots.
Next Tues I will be going to Portland to fly and inspect the particular
CJ6 that I am considering. (I'm excited for sure.) It's older than the YAK,
we will see what comes of it. That's your first mystery.
The second mystery for some of you is in the form of a riddle. ( Cliff,
"older than dirt" might enjoy this more than most).
Here goes... "It rides a Harley V-Rod. It has been in martial arts for
19 years and teaches "cockpit combat" to flight crews. It flew Captain in
DC-3s in Africa when it was 23 to build flight time. It was one of the first
Police Aerial Patrol pilots for the LA Sheriffs. It is currently writing an
action adventure book on airlines and terrorism ( Chapter 14 so far) and it's
taking it's open water SCUBA Certification test today to go dive in Eluthera.
It adores the opposite gender and they generally find it quite
attractive as well. It flies because (as Brian reminds us) "It releases my mind
from
the tyranny of petty things." It has never had a problem operating well with
and enjoying the members of it's flight crew.
(This one's for Walt) It flew North American AT-6's upon occasion out
of Van Nuys when it was getting it's private pilot license age 17 years old.
Like so many of us when we were kids, washed them for occasional flight time.
(I know this is long guys, but I'm having way too much fun here.)
It's 6 ft tall and blond. It was in the first class of Federal Flight
Deck Officers after 911. It loves instinctive archery and shooting it's LEM
H/K 40cal. for practice upon occasion. It has also just finished painting an
8'X20' mural of the Salt Lake Valley and Delta aircraft for the Chief Pilots
Office.
It wants to purchase one of those wonderful "Boy's Toys" and join in
the fun with the YAK guys. It is most appreciative of their varied and colorful
input.
"Whaddizzitt?!!"
Tank, that was truly an appropriate and well written ode to the CJ. I
did buy American with the V-Rod at least, although I'm not generally a Harley
fan. A friend of mine who is a FAM gave me a bit of a hard time about "what
are you doing buying a CHINESE or RUSSIAN military airplane you unpatriotic
thing?" I just told him that I was taking a machine of war out of their hands
and providing a last line of defense for the USA.(laugh).
Thanks also to the very entertaining Cliff, EAL and his wonderful arch
nemesis, "Pappy".
My appreciation to Tim as well. That is, after all, the bottom line.
"Whatever suits my mission".
I do feel warmly welcomed by all of you and continue to enjoy your
comments on the YAK list. Indeed I AM still lurking about out here and probably
will be for some time.
The final question. Will I succumb to "That Fatal Feminine Flaw of
emotion based decision making" or will I do the sweaty double balled
testosterone based thing and succumb to a male on male challenge? The mystery
remains.
Stay tuned for the next episode of "ALL MY YAKS".
I love it.
You guys fly safe out there and keep the comments coming.
Fraternally, - "Val"
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In a message dated 10/29/2005 10:14:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ggg6@att.net writes:
Motion Seconded !! Gary
Nuts! Just when I was going to put in a word for the Aerocoup.
Pappy
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I know whadditizz.. "it" was easy to fly with and "it" was (still is) easy
to look at <grin>. You're missed Val. Good luck with your decision on
aircraft. Although I don't have either aircraft I lurk here for the
occasional M14P related issue that comes up.
Take care,
Scott Aldrich
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: "Whaddizzitt?"
In a message dated 10/29/2005 9:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Valkyre1@comcast.net writes:
God! If you're a woman I divorce my wife of 40 years and marry you! If not
- - - well welcome to the club fella.
Pappy
Hey again Guys,
Yep, I'm still "lurking" around out here as Doc so succinctly put it.
I'm also getting a lot of chuckles as well as info on the YAK and CJ6 re: my
intent to purchase. Evidently I started some friendly fire amongst you which
you are enjoying as much as I am.
I've received information on a beautiful and fully loaded almost new
YAK for sale by two of my airline brethren. They love it, but both airlines
are in or near bankruptcy and taking their ton of flesh out of the pilots.
Next Tues I will be going to Portland to fly and inspect the particular
CJ6 that I am considering. (I'm excited for sure.) It's older than the YAK,
we will see what comes of it. That's your first mystery.
The second mystery for some of you is in the form of a riddle. ( Cliff,
"older than dirt" might enjoy this more than most).
Here goes... "It rides a Harley V-Rod. It has been in martial arts for
19 years and teaches "cockpit combat" to flight crews. It flew Captain in
DC-3s in Africa when it was 23 to build flight time. It was one of the first
Police Aerial Patrol pilots for the LA Sheriffs. It is currently writing an
action adventure book on airlines and terrorism ( Chapter 14 so far) and
it's taking it's open water SCUBA Certification test today to go dive in
Eluthera.
It adores the opposite gender and they generally find it quite
attractive as well. It flies because (as Brian reminds us) "It releases my
mind from the tyranny of petty things." It has never had a problem operating
well with and enjoying the members of it's flight crew.
(This one's for Walt) It flew North American AT-6's upon occasion out
of Van Nuys when it was getting it's private pilot license age 17 years old.
Like so many of us when we were kids, washed them for occasional flight
time.
(I know this is long guys, but I'm having way too much fun here.)
It's 6 ft tall and blond. It was in the first class of Federal Flight
Deck Officers after 911. It loves instinctive archery and shooting it's LEM
H/K 40cal. for practice upon occasion. It has also just finished painting an
8'X20' mural of the Salt Lake Valley and Delta aircraft for the Chief Pilots
Office.
It wants to purchase one of those wonderful "Boy's Toys" and join in
the fun with the YAK guys. It is most appreciative of their varied and
colorful input.
"Whaddizzitt?!!"
Tank, that was truly an appropriate and well written ode to the CJ. I
did buy American with the V-Rod at least, although I'm not generally a
Harley fan. A friend of mine who is a FAM gave me a bit of a hard time about
"what are you doing buying a CHINESE or RUSSIAN military airplane you
unpatriotic thing?" I just told him that I was taking a machine of war out
of their hands and providing a last line of defense for the USA.(laugh).
Thanks also to the very entertaining Cliff, EAL and his wonderful arch
nemesis, "Pappy".
My appreciation to Tim as well. That is, after all, the bottom line.
"Whatever suits my mission".
I do feel warmly welcomed by all of you and continue to enjoy your
comments on the YAK list. Indeed I AM still lurking about out here and
probably will be for some time.
The final question. Will I succumb to "That Fatal Feminine Flaw of
emotion based decision making" or will I do the sweaty double balled
testosterone based thing and succumb to a male on male challenge? The
mystery remains. Stay tuned for the next episode of "ALL MY YAKS".
I love it.
You guys fly safe out there and keep the comments coming.
Fraternally, - "Val"
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
In a message dated 10/30/2005 5:29:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
PSalter@aol.com writes:
I need advice on how to mount my anti-submarine/crotch strap portion of my
new Hooker harness set on my CJ. Where should it be attached? To the seat, or
the floor with a doublers
This same Hooker harness came installed by the prior owner in my CJ, Phil.
While the lap belts are anchored to the floor, the crotch straps are secured to
the seat. I have idea if this correct. What do the folks at Hooker have to
say? ...Blitz
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
In a message dated 10/30/2005 4:51:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ByronMFox@aol.com writes:
I have idea if this correct.
I really should proof the things I write before hitting the "send now"
button. That is -- I have NO idea if this IS correct. ...B
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| Subject: | Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve |
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said reducing
valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've guessed
it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing is
mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you let go of
the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
10/31/2005 09:03:50 AM,
Serialize complete at 10/31/2005 09:03:50 AM
Guess you may have sent this to wrong e-mail address. Please delete my
address from the forwarding list.
Thanks,
Mary
Time: 05:04:00 PM PST US
at 31/10/2005 06:12
To:
yak-list@matronics.com
cc:
(bcc: Chuen Oi Yan Mary)
bcc:
Chuen Oi Yan Mary
Subject:
Re: Yak-List: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I dont have a hooker, but my cortch strap attaches under the seat.
Ernie
On 10/30/05, PSalter@aol.com <PSalter@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I need advice on how to mount my anti-submarine/crotch strap portion of
my
> new Hooker harness set on my CJ. Where should it be attached? To the
seat,
> or the floor with a doublers? What have other done?
>
> While writing, I have a question about holes with fittings from my
engine
> compartment to the cockpit. My plane has what looks like fittings and
holes
> for heat on the left and right sides of the firewall. If not for heat,
what
> else could they be? The cowling also has a small scoop on the left side
on
> the bottom half. What was that used for?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Phil
> 700HS CJ6-A (nearing certification)
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
On the right track Ernie. The barber poles were completely down and the
only indication was a thump coming from somewhere when the airplane unloaded
and then went positive again.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Sounds to me like the uplocks didnt engage, probably due to an air
> leak in one of the actuators, so you cant get the gear all the way up.
>
> Ernie
>
> On 10/30/05, Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dennis,
>> Will call you on the way to Birmingham.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: A. Dennis Savarese
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: 10/30/2005 9:12:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
>>
>>
>> I'll refrain from answering this Doc since I was involved in the
>> diagnosis
>> and repair. But a great, thought provoking question for the group!
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Roger Kemp
>> To: yak-list
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:35 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: EP of the Day
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yakkers,
>> I'll get this thread started.
>> You've done the pre-flight. Have strapped in for a solo acro flight with
>> a
>> bright eyed bushy tailed young 2nd Lt about to leave for UPT. You light
>> the
>> fire, warmed her up, and taxi into position on the runway. Normal runup,
>> systems check, cycle the controls, push the power up and off you go into
>> the
>> wild blue yonder. When you cycle the gear up, you notice that the right
>> main
>> red gearup light does not come on. The three green gear up lamps have
>> gone
>> out. A quick look at the Barbara poles show that the gear is retracted
>> with
>> the poles showing flush in the wings and nose. Your air pressure on TO
>> was
>> 40 ATM and is now 35 ATM. It varies around 37 and 42 atm when the power
>> is
>> changed and as the flight progresses. Wing rock and pitching up/ down
>> to
>> G up the aircraft does not cause a change in the unlit R main light but
>> the
>> barbara pole remains down in the wing.
>> So you press on with the acro introduction flight. Coming thru the back
>> side
>> of a Loop you feel a hard thunk! A quick sytem check shows all is well
>> with
>> fuel balanced, air, oil, and engine instruments are in the green. You ask
>> your pitter is he is ok and was that him getting light in the seat since
>> you
>> bunted a little at the top of the loop before pulling down the back side.
>> He
>> states he was well strapped in and it was not him. He thought the Thunk
>> came from the aft end of the aircraft. You Knock It OFF and RTB
>> uneventfully. On shutdown, you notice your air pressure at 35 atms. You
>> inspect the right main with nothing obviously hanging off.
>> What's the problem? Is it OK to take her up for that second intro flight?
>> Was it just the light burned out and you need to change it?
>> Doc
>>
>> Roger "Doc" Kemp
>> viperdoc@mindspring.com
>> Aint no sound like a Radial
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang 5 Point Harness mount |
In a message dated 10/30/2005 4:51:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ByronMFox@aol.com writes:
I need advice on how to mount my anti-submarine/crotch strap portion of my
new Hooker harness set on my CJ. Where should it be attached? To the seat,
or the floor with a doublers
This same Hooker harness came installed by the prior owner in my CJ, Phil.
While the lap belts are anchored to the floor, the crotch straps are secured
to the seat. I have idea if this correct. What do the folks at Hooker have to
say? ...Blitz
On my Cj with hooker harness, In the front all are connected to the seat, so
you can
use the vertical adjustment feature of the seat in the rear the lap and
crotch belts
connect to the seat and the shoulder straps to the read deck area of the
fuselage.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 NX63727
Sandy Valley NV
3L2
702-723-1223
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve |
It's not in a very accessible location. The brake reducing valve is under the floor
on the right side in the rear cockpit directly in front of the bulkhead where
the flap actuator is located. Usually it's painted green.
If your brake reducing valve is going bad, it will affect both the front and rear
brake handle.
An easy way to learn how the brake pressure is released is to squeeze and lock
the brake handle, then move the rudder pedals left and right. It's best to have
the front seat out. Then listen as you move the rudder pedals or release
the brake handle.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said reducing
valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've
guessed it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing is
mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you let go
of the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Yaks from Lithuania |
has anyone delt with a chap in Vilnius in Lithuania by the name of Litauras
Dziuzas
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve |
<00b601c5ddb6$ad883b60$6502a8c0@desktop>
<005a01c5ddbb$ef364020$6501a8c0@Computer>
Dennis,
yes, I've already stripped the brake differential unit but I'm still having a problem
that releasing the brake handle is not releasing all of the brake pressure.
I can hear the reducing valve continue hissing for several seconds but there
is still a residual braking action. If I then waggle the rudder pedals, the
differential unit will release the residual pressure. That's why I want a better
understand of the reducing valve. It looks like a pig to reach; I want
to know if it can be responsible for this behaviour.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
It's not in a very accessible location. The brake reducing valve is under the
floor on the right side in the rear cockpit directly in front of the bulkhead
where the flap actuator is located. Usually it's painted green.
If your brake reducing valve is going bad, it will affect both the front and
rear brake handle.
An easy way to learn how the brake pressure is released is to squeeze and lock
the brake handle, then move the rudder pedals left and right. It's best to
have the front seat out. Then listen as you move the rudder pedals or release
the brake handle.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said reducing
valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've
guessed it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing
is mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you let
go of the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
There is probably some pressure built up from a small air leak from the
emergency air system which is just enough to not allow the gear to completely
reach and engage to uplock. Open the right rear emergency bleed value and that
will release the pressure.
Wolfman
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Yaks from Lithuania |
I am the US dealer for him/them. I have 8 airplanes on order at present from them.
Contact me off-list if you're interested in discussing a pristine aircraft.
Dennis
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From: egon
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yaks from Lithuania
has anyone delt with a chap in Vilnius in Lithuania by the name of Litauras
Dziuzas
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| Subject: | Re: EP of the Day |
Ray,
Not possible in a standard Yak. The standard Yak (non 52W or TW) does not have
the emergency bleed knob as does the W or TW. The barber poles are completely
retracted as they would appear if the main landing gear were indicating up and
locked by the red UP lamp.
Dennis
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From: FamilyGage@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: EP of the Day
There is probably some pressure built up from a small air leak from the emergency
air system which is just enough to not allow the gear to completely reach
and engage to uplock. Open the right rear emergency bleed value and that will
release the pressure.
Wolfman
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve) |
Dave,
The brake reducing valve reduces the air pressure by approximately 8 to 1. Thus
the air pressure to the brake bladders is less than 100 PSI. Between the brake
reducing valve and the brake differential valve is the brake disabling solenoid.
That was/is engaged by the instructor in the rear cockpit; placing the
toggle switch on the left console forward and pressing the button on the rear
cockpit stick. As long as there is air flowing through these three devices there
is always the possibility that over time, gunk has built up in the valves
and is causing them to stick. I'd start by removing and replacing the brake
reducing valve. To my knowledge there are no rebuild kits for the brake reducing
valve.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
Dennis,
yes, I've already stripped the brake differential unit but I'm still having a
problem that releasing the brake handle is not releasing all of the brake pressure.
I can hear the reducing valve continue hissing for several seconds but
there is still a residual braking action. If I then waggle the rudder pedals,
the differential unit will release the residual pressure. That's why I want a
better understand of the reducing valve. It looks like a pig to reach; I want
to know if it can be responsible for this behaviour.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
It's not in a very accessible location. The brake reducing valve is under the
floor on the right side in the rear cockpit directly in front of the bulkhead
where the flap actuator is located. Usually it's painted green.
If your brake reducing valve is going bad, it will affect both the front and
rear brake handle.
An easy way to learn how the brake pressure is released is to squeeze and lock
the brake handle, then move the rudder pedals left and right. It's best
to have the front seat out. Then listen as you move the rudder pedals or release
the brake handle.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said reducing
valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've
guessed it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing
is mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you let
go of the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve |
I'd suspect it's the reducing valve hanging up. I've seen them stick before.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
Dennis,
yes, I've already stripped the brake differential unit but I'm still having a
problem that releasing the brake handle is not releasing all of the brake pressure.
I can hear the reducing valve continue hissing for several seconds but
there is still a residual braking action. If I then waggle the rudder pedals,
the differential unit will release the residual pressure. That's why I want a
better understand of the reducing valve. It looks like a pig to reach; I want
to know if it can be responsible for this behaviour.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
It's not in a very accessible location. The brake reducing valve is under the
floor on the right side in the rear cockpit directly in front of the bulkhead
where the flap actuator is located. Usually it's painted green.
If your brake reducing valve is going bad, it will affect both the front and
rear brake handle.
An easy way to learn how the brake pressure is released is to squeeze and lock
the brake handle, then move the rudder pedals left and right. It's best
to have the front seat out. Then listen as you move the rudder pedals or release
the brake handle.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said reducing
valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've
guessed it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing
is mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you let
go of the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve |
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OK; I'll check it out. This is going to be fun. Not.
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
I'd suspect it's the reducing valve hanging up. I've seen them stick before.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
Dennis,
yes, I've already stripped the brake differential unit but I'm still having
a problem that releasing the brake handle is not releasing all of the brake pressure.
I can hear the reducing valve continue hissing for several seconds but
there is still a residual braking action. If I then waggle the rudder pedals,
the differential unit will release the residual pressure. That's why I want
a better understand of the reducing valve. It looks like a pig to reach; I want
to know if it can be responsible for this behaviour.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
It's not in a very accessible location. The brake reducing valve is under
the floor on the right side in the rear cockpit directly in front of the bulkhead
where the flap actuator is located. Usually it's painted green.
If your brake reducing valve is going bad, it will affect both the front
and rear brake handle.
An easy way to learn how the brake pressure is released is to squeeze and
lock the brake handle, then move the rudder pedals left and right. It's best
to have the front seat out. Then listen as you move the rudder pedals or release
the brake handle.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: David Marsh
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Brake Reducing Valve
So,
I'm looking through my Termikas parts manual for the a drawing of said
reducing valve and.... huh? My copy goes straight from Fig 7.6.5 to Fig 7.7. You've
guessed it; I need Fig 7.6.6. Grrrr. Anybody got the scoop on how this thing
is mounted in a Yak? More to the point, how is the air released when you
let go of the brake handle?
Dave.
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| Subject: | Camden, SC airshow. |
swifty305@bellsouth.net, keith.goolsby@eds.com
These folks really know how to run a show. Unlike last year the crowd
appeared to be a little less and there were fewer planes there too. But the group
that runs it - runs it very well.
First our fuel tanks were never empty.
We each had a very nice rental car. With our own special parking right near
the ramp.
Best Western had rooms waiting in our names.
My total check in time with the lady in charge (including getting my free
rental car) was not even 5 minutes.
We were given $10 in meal tickets for any of the food venders PLUS there was
a VIP tent with free eats too.
We had 3 Yaks and my CJ there. Stu Mosby, Shane Golden, Bob Langford and
myself. Stu ran afile the feds (6 of them!) there for some missing paper work
so wasn't able to fly in the show. We did our best with a 3 ship. It wasn't
a big show but a nice little one.
Best restaurant to eat in Camden? The Padlock. There were about 20
airborne troop re enactors there too, singing "There was blood upon his risers,
there was blood upon his chute - - -" song. The locals were amused and Bob being
a former airborne type bought them a round. Great food - great evening.
That was Friday night. Saturday night they had a fried chicken or catfish
dinner under the stars with a 3 piece band. Really nice.
The flight up I took off with low ground fog thick on the runway up to about
30 or 40 feet. I had to taxi the length to make sure it was clear. When I
got to the end and turned around, I found my prop wash had stirred up the air
enough to clear the runway. I took off into CAVU skies. ( 2:15 - (292 nm)
from start up to shut down). That was the same weather for Saturday and
today. After we did our show bit, we landed, tanked up, Bob and Shane put their
GIBs OB and we blasted off again. Coming home at 6,500 I was doing 135 kts
IAS with a GS of 147 kts. I trim the CJ out. I actually timed 12 minuets of
pure hands off trimmed flight. I didn't see any clouds until 35 nm from home
base, and it was just some scattered stuff. 2:05 from start up to shut down.
Life is good.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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