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1. 03:47 AM - Re: ADIZ (Craig Payne)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: fuel tank question (Craig Payne)
3. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank question (ron wasson)
4. 07:56 AM - Re: Val's CJ expedition & Batman flies (Roger Kemp)
5. 11:06 AM - Re: Val's CJ expedition & Batman flies (Cliff Umscheid)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Fuel system mods (Craig Payne)
7. 03:02 PM - AIR PUMP BLUES (Frank Haertlein)
8. 06:08 PM - Re: AIR PUMP BLUES (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 10:52 PM - Savarese/DC ADIZ (Roger Baker)
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Dennis wrote:
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> and of course Mayor Daly to insist that his city is just as vulnerable as DC
> and demand an ADIZ be implemented. The left wing mayors are sitting in
> their big, leather office chairs rocking back and forth with a smirk on their
> face, just waiting with their arms folded for this to happen.
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If ONLY it were Just Left Wing Mayors. I'm afraid that numerous well-meaning
Conservatives, and Tweeners also think this is a good idea. A Law and Order kinda
of thing to prevent Terrorism. As pilots, it is ALL of our jobs to protect
the freedoms we most cherish.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank question |
Ron,
Been there done that. I used a 15 gallon tank on the ADF rack but installed it
with a solenoid valve, a check-valved cross feed to feed the mains and a transfer
pump. It works but I was never comfortable about that fuel back there so the
tank sits in a box in my hanger.
The wing bladder tanks appears to be a good solution but I'm waiting to see how
"Pappy's" rig holds up.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank question |
What kind of solenoid valve, how did you tap the main tanks?
ron wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
On Nov 5, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Craig Payne wrote:
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> Ron,
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> Been there done that. I used a 15 gallon tank on the ADF rack but
> installed it with a solenoid valve, a check-valved cross feed to
> feed the mains and a transfer pump. It works but I was never
> comfortable about that fuel back there so the tank sits in a box in
> my hanger.
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> The wing bladder tanks appears to be a good solution but I'm
> waiting to see how "Pappy's" rig holds up.
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> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Val's CJ expedition & Batman flies |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Yah but Cliff is still talking about flying United.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 11/5/2005 1:14:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Val's CJ expedition & Batman flies
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> Cliff Umscheid wrote:
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> > "Come Fly with me-----" (Whose
> > theme song was that anyway?) and Dare to compare.
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> Sinatra. ;-)
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> And I like "Fly Me To The Moon" better.
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> Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
> brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Val's CJ expedition & Batman flies |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
Re "Come Fly With Me"
Some People never know when to say "yes" to an offer. Can it be Fear of
Flying? Nah! For Friendlier Skies-- Go YAK and you'll never go back.
CLIFF
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:55:38 -0600 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
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> Doc
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> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
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> > brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
> > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system mods |
Ron,
The solenoid valve is a 12V 3-way I ran off a 12VDC supply I installed, The Facet
pump is also 12V driven. They were RV/truck items sold by JC Whitney. On/Off
switch with "on" lamp sits just forward of the Primer in the cockpit right
side.
I drilled & tapped the rear inboard boss on each tank, probably designed for future
mods no doubt, or perhaps used on the Long Range CJ versions?? I installed
a Tee, with a hose going to the Valve and in the bottom of each Tee, I put Curtis
quick drains, which are real nifty for sampling fuel as well as doing a
low fuel test on each side. I had to cut a little hole in the cover over that
spot for the drains to peek through.
Has lasted for Many Moons and Hundreds of hours...all without "permission" from
expert 'listers. The only really useful part are the quick drains, and maybe
"someday" other tanks.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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Yakkers
Need some advice regarding my 52's air system.
As of today the air system isn't pumping up anymore.
Are there some things I should look for ?
Is there something I can do before replacing the compressor?
I heard the pump can carbon up.
Where does the carbo build up?
Can it cause my symptoms?
If I clean out the carbon will the pump begin to work again?
Thanks in advance
Frank
N9110m
K32
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| Subject: | Re: AIR PUMP BLUES |
In a message dated 11/5/2005 6:04:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
yak52driver@earthlink.net writes:
The first thing to check is the line out of the compressor and make sure the
compressor is making air. Disconnect the line at one end, than while the
engine is running check to see if air is coming out. If not, take off the
line, check it for holes or gulp, clean it, reinstall making sure all connections
are tight. Run the engine again and see if air comes out. If it does not,
than you know its the compressor where the problem is for sure.
If the compressor is putting out than move up the system and check your
filters. I've seen these cut off air completely too. You gota keep them clean.
I am not as familiar with the engine compartment of the 52 as I am the CJ,
but if I remember right, you have bunch of stuff to get around in order to get
the compressor. If the compressor gets carbon up, it's out put will drop
off to nothing. You get to the top of the valves that carbon builds up on by
removing the filter on top on the compressor. You try squirting MMO in there
which may break loose the carbon.
I plan on cleaning my compressor at my next annual with Ardrox 6367 made by
Turco. My brother use this stuff to clean the carbon out of jet engines. It
is sprayed into the engine intake while being turned over by the starter.
It is allowed to sit for 30 minutes than wash out with water. I planning on
using different method but it should knock a lot of that stuff out.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Yakkers
Need some advice regarding my 52's air system.
As of today the air system isn't pumping up anymore.
Are there some things I should look for ?
Is there something I can do before replacing the compressor?
I heard the pump can carbon up.
Where does the carbo build up?
Can it cause my symptoms?
If I clean out the carbon will the pump begin to work again?
Thanks in advance
Frank
N9110m
K32
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| Subject: | Savarese/DC ADIZ |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Hello all,
I find this airspace grab, this restriction on our personal
freedom, this totally unnecessary and unproductive assault on general
aviation called the Washington, D.C. ADIZ to be a truely appalling
thing that I hope won't prove to be a harbinger of the future.
However, I suspect the political heavy hitters in this country are
unhappy with the rapid and unfettered movement that general aviation
airplanes gives to a segment of the population of our country.
Further, I suspect that these same people intend, by manipulating the
bureaucracy and the non-aviation public, to use the "I'm sorry sir,
but it's a matter of national security" nonsense to rapidly put a
noose around general aviations' throat. We have an immense fight on
our hands.
My name and my comments are on the public comment web site on
one of the very earliest pages. I'm pleased to see that these
comments have grown to include 18,000 of my fellow Americans.
I'm a 41 year registered Republican, but I'm now reluctant to
admit it. That is because the erosions of our personal freedoms that
have recently happened and are continuing to happen are occuring
under the present political regime that is controlled by the
Republican party. I think that they are manipulating the American
public to their own ends using the horror of the 9/11 attack and "The
War on Terror (sic)" as a device to justify their actions. This
regime is the farthest to the right on any that I have seen in my
life and I believe that they have an agenda that is certainly not in
the best interests of myself and my peers. I've come to believe
that this whole thing is being orchestrated by the George W. Bush
administration...which is extremely anti aviation. And, I'm
beginning to think, extremely anti ordinary American citizen.
With those background comments, I must say that I find A. Dennis
Savareses' comments on yesterdays Yak List exceedingly strange. Part
of Mr. Savarese's post is quoted here:
If the DC ADIZ becomes permanent, which I sincerely hope it does not,
the
precedent will be set for many other major cities within Class B
airspace
like LAX, SFO, ATL, NYC and of course Mayor Daly to insist that his
city is
just as vulnerable as DC and demand an ADIZ be implemented.
The left wing mayors are sitting in their big, leather office chairs
rocking back and
forth with a smirk on their face, just waiting with their arms folded
for
this to happen.
I don't see how Mr. Savarese gets from talking about the
terrible aspects of the DC ADIZ which is being promulgated by the
present Republican (rightist, if you will) administration to somehow
twisting it all around to being something that "the left wing mayors"
are foisting off on us. What kind of spin is this? I don't see a
rational train of thought here. A Republican administration is in
charge, backed up by a Republican Senate and a Republican House, and
is sending off its' instructions to the FAA, the DHS, ad
nauseum.....and Mr. Savarese blames this on left wing mayors?
When my brother, a United States Marine, died in combat, he
died to protect our personal freedoms....and now, politicians and
bureaucrats are blithley taking them away. And, straight up Ace, it
ain't democrats, or unions, or "left wing mayors" that are doing it.
It's being done by the Bush administration, the Republicans and their
bureaucratic toadys.
In any case, it is up to each of us to protest in any way we can.
Roger Baker
"do not mistake dissent for disloyalty"
....Edward R. Murrow
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