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1. 06:00 AM - Advice on Breakin procedures for a Housai 285hp? (PSalter@aol.com)
2. 08:39 AM - Non starter (Buzzard Aviation)
3. 09:38 AM - Re: Non starter (Cliff Umscheid)
4. 01:03 PM - Re: Non starter (ggg6@att.net)
5. 02:52 PM - Re: Non starter (Buzzard Aviation)
6. 02:52 PM - Re: Non starter (Buzzard Aviation)
7. 04:22 PM - Re: CROSS COUNTRY IN A 52 (Brian Lloyd)
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| Subject: | Advice on Breakin procedures for a Housai 285hp? |
Won't be long before I pick up my CJ from Camarillo, CA. The engine is 0
SMOH and the plane has not been certified. What should my break in procedures
be? When do I switch to regular oil and what oil to the CJ guys use? What RPM
and manifold pressures should I use and fuel burn and speeds to expect? I
will fly my plane to Texas after the 5 hours have been flown off in CA. It
looks to be a 10+- hour trip.
Phil
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
Hiya,
Having problems getting my usually very reliable M14 started. I has
been outside in "very" wet and humid conditions for four weeks but
even after pulling all the plugs and clearing the intake drains she
will not go. I am not too technically minded and without tools to set
timing but can I pull the mag covers and get some moisture repellant
in there as I suspect this is the problem? She tries to fire on the
starter but as soon as I release the button to run on the mags she dies.
I don't want to pull the mag covers off if anything is going to need
adjustment or spring off as I am not equipped or knowledgeable enough
to reset timing and she was running fine before anyway. Suggestions please?
We finally have four days of cold clear weather forecast so I'm
hoping to get it to the engineers (150 miles east of me) to check a
small air leak this week anyway.
TIA
Happy Landings
____|____
\O/
o'o Martin Robinson
martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
Martin,
After priming and pulling the prop through, give it three more shots of
prime and, this time, leave the primer out and loaded with a shot of
fuel. When it tries to run on the starter, shoot that reserved barrel of
fuel to it and standby with
another barrel of fuel IF IT NEEDS IT. Be sure to close the primer when
you finally get it running. Until your starting process returns to normal
be sure to have a fire guard at ready with an extinguisher. Arrange your
hand signals in advance with the fire guard so you both are on the same
sheet of music. If you don't have enough hands put a helper on one wing
to handle the primer for you while you work the starter. Brief everybody
in advance as to what you expect them to do in case you get a stack
fire---including: "push the airplane back off and away from the burning
fuel on the ground".
Cliff Umscheid
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:38:32 +0000 Buzzard Aviation
<martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk> writes:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation
> <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
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> Hiya,
>
> Having problems getting my usually very reliable M14 started. I has
>
> been outside in "very" wet and humid conditions for four weeks but
> even after pulling all the plugs and clearing the intake drains she
>
> will not go. I am not too technically minded and without tools to
> set
> timing but can I pull the mag covers and get some moisture repellant
>
> in there as I suspect this is the problem? She tries to fire on the
>
> starter but as soon as I release the button to run on the mags she
> dies.
>
> I don't want to pull the mag covers off if anything is going to need
>
> adjustment or spring off as I am not equipped or knowledgeable
> enough
> to reset timing and she was running fine before anyway. Suggestions
> please?
>
> We finally have four days of cold clear weather forecast so I'm
> hoping to get it to the engineers (150 miles east of me) to check a
>
> small air leak this week anyway.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Happy Landings
> ____|____
> \O/
> o'o Martin Robinson
>
> martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk
>
>
> --
> 11/11/2005
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Is the Mag Switch on in the rear cockpit,,,If not it will start and run on the
shower of sparks as long as the starter button is pushed the quit when the starter
button is released.. Gary
-------------- Original message from Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>: --------------
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid
>
> Martin,
>
> After priming and pulling the prop through, give it three more shots of
> prime and, this time, leave the primer out and loaded with a shot of
> fuel. When it tries to run on the starter, shoot that reserved barrel of
> fuel to it and standby with
> another barrel of fuel IF IT NEEDS IT. Be sure to close the primer when
> you finally get it running. Until your starting process returns to normal
> be sure to have a fire guard at ready with an extinguisher. Arrange your
> hand signals in advance with the fire guard so you both are on the same
> sheet of music. If you don't have enough hands put a helper on one wing
> to handle the primer for you while you work the starter. Brief everybody
> in advance as to what you expect them to do in case you get a stack
> fire---including: "push the airplane back off and away from the burning
> fuel on the ground".
>
> Cliff Umscheid
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:38:32 +0000 Buzzard Aviation
> writes:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation
> >
> >
> > Hiya,
> >
> > Having problems getting my usually very reliable M14 started. I has
> >
> > been outside in "very" wet and humid conditions for four weeks but
> > even after pulling all the plugs and clearing the intake drains she
> >
> > will not go. I am not too technically minded and without tools to
> > set
> > timing but can I pull the mag covers and get some moisture repellant
> >
> > in there as I suspect this is the problem? She tries to fire on the
> >
> > starter but as soon as I release the button to run on the mags she
> > dies.
> >
> > I don't want to pull the mag covers off if anything is going to need
> >
> > adjustment or spring off as I am not equipped or knowledgeable
> > enough
> > to reset timing and she was running fine before anyway. Suggestions
> > please?
> >
> > We finally have four days of cold clear weather forecast so I'm
> > hoping to get it to the engineers (150 miles east of me) to check a
> >
> > small air leak this week anyway.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> > Happy Landings
> > ____|____
> > \O/
> > o'o Martin Robinson
> >
> > martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk
> >
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> > --
> > 11/11/2005
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Is the Mag Switch on in the rear cockpit,,,If not it will start and run on the
shower of sparksas long as the starter button is pushed the quit when the starter
button is released.. Gary
-------------- Original message from Cliff Umscheid netmaster15@juno.com: --------------
-- Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid <NETMASTER15@JUNO.COM>
Martin,
After priming and pulling the prop through, give it three more shots of
prime and, this time, leave the primer out and loaded with a shot of
fuel. When it tries to run on the starter, shoot that reserved barrel of
fuel to it and standby with
another barrel of fuel IF IT NEEDS IT. Be sure to close the primer when
you finally get it running. Until your starting process returns to normal
be sure to have a fire guard at ready with an extinguisher. Arrange your
hand signals in advance with the fire guard so you both are on the same
sheet of music. If you don't have enough hands put a helper on one
wing
to handle the primer for you while you work the starter. Brief everybody
in advance as to what you expect them to do in case you get a stack
fire---including: "push the airplane back off and away from the burning
fuel on the ground".
Cliff Umscheid
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:38:32 +0000 Buzzard Aviation
<MARTIN@BUZZARDAVIATION.FLYER.CO.UK>writes:
-- Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation
<MARTIN@BUZZARDAVIATION.FLYER.CO.UK>
Hiya,
Having problems getting my usually very reliable M14 started. I has
been outside in "very" wet and humid conditions for four weeks but
even after pulling all the plugs and clearing the intake drains she
will not go. I am not too technically minded and without tools to
set
timing but can I pull the mag covers and get some moisture repellant
in there as I suspect this is the problem? She tries to fire on the
starter but as soon as I release the button to run on the mags she
dies.
I don't want to pull the mag covers off if anything is going to need
adjustment or spring off as I am not equipped or knowledgeable
enough
to reset timing and she was running fine before anyway. Suggestions
please?
We finally have four days of cold clear weather forecast so I'm
hoping to get it to the engineers (150 miles east of me) to check a
small air leak this week anyway.
TIA
Happy Landings
____|____
\O/
o'o Martin Robin
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
At 21:02 13/11/2005, ggg6@att.net wrote:
>Is the Mag Switch on in the rear cockpit,,,If not it will start and
>run on the shower of sparks as long as the starter button is pushed
>the quit when the starter button is released.. Gary
>-------------- Original message from Cliff Umscheid
><netmaster15@juno.com>: --------------
Sadly not as this is an 18T but that is exactly what it seems like.
I've done this in a Chipmunk. Most Embarrasing:-)
Happy Landings
____|____
\O/
o'o Martin Robinson
Auster AOP 9 G-BKVK (WZ662)
Yak 18T HA-YAV
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
At 17:35 13/11/2005, Cliff Umscheid wrote:
>Martin,
>
>After priming and pulling the prop through, give it three more shots of
>prime and, this time, leave the primer out and loaded with a shot of
>fuel. When it tries to run on the starter, shoot that reserved barrel of
>fuel to it and standby with
>another barrel of fuel IF IT NEEDS IT. Be sure to close the primer when
>you finally get it running. Until your starting process returns to normal
>be sure to have a fire guard at ready with an extinguisher. Arrange your
>hand signals in advance with the fire guard so you both are on the same
>sheet of music. If you don't have enough hands put a helper on one wing
>to handle the primer for you while you work the starter. Brief everybody
>in advance as to what you expect them to do in case you get a stack
>fire---including: "push the airplane back off and away from the burning
>fuel on the ground".
>
>Cliff Umscheid
Hi Cliff,
Tried all this but as soon as I let go of the starter button she dies
regardless of throttle settings, pumping primer, running on just #1
or #2 mag instead of both......
I did have the fire extinguisher and a guy standing by but the idea
of two to push the aircraft back is helpful.
Happy Landings
____|____
\O/
o'o Martin Robinson
Auster AOP 9 G-BKVK (WZ662)
Yak 18T HA-YAV
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| Subject: | Re: CROSS COUNTRY IN A 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Roger Kemp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> A warning sign that you are approaching a mountain rotor are the formation
> lenticular clouds overlying the mountain peak generally on the leeward
> side.
Hmm, my understanding is that the lenticular just identifies the presence of a
wave and not necessarily of a rotor. OTOH, if there is a lenticular cloud
present the flow is possibly great enough to cause a rotor if the terrain
(ridge) is sharp enough. Sometimes you will see a rotor cloud (different from
a lenticular -- looks rough and tubular and is much closer to the lee of the
ridge, not standing above it) and know to avoid that area.
The mountains of the Sierra Nevada have steep ridges on the eastern side and
form wonderful waves and rotors (sometimes) when the flow is from the
west-southwest. (Look for winds aloft in excess of 30kts.) As you fly toward
the ridge from the east you will find yourself in alternating sections of lift
and sink which get stronger as you approach the ridge. I use the lift to gain
a lot of altitude (16,000' MSL is not too much in my book) so that I can
penetrate the sink and make it across the ridge with plenty of altitude, the
goal being to cross the ridge at least 2000' AGL. This much altitude
keeps me clear of any rotor that might be present as well. It also means that
I have plenty of altitude to work with if I need to turn away from the ridge.
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Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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