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1. 12:11 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
2. 08:26 AM - warning signs (Jon Boede)
3. 08:46 AM - Re: Gear Safety Systems for the CJ (Brian Lloyd)
4. 09:05 AM - Re: warning signs (Craig Payne)
5. 09:17 AM - Remove from list request (Ron Spencer)
6. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: warning signs (DaBear)
7. 09:53 AM - Re: Remove from list request (Ernest Martinez)
8. 11:33 AM - Re: warning signs (Roger Kemp)
9. 12:38 PM - Re: warning signs (Brian Lloyd)
10. 01:18 PM - Re: warning signs (Dave Laird)
11. 02:00 PM - Re: Outboard Aileron hinge bracket for Yak 52 (MikSpin@aol.com)
12. 02:17 PM - warning signs (Doug Sapp)
13. 03:14 PM - Re: warning signs (Roger Kemp)
14. 03:55 PM - Re: warning signs (Ernest Martinez)
15. 04:23 PM - Re: Paint (Craig Payne)
16. 08:27 PM - Re: Re: Outboard Aileron hinge bracket for Yak 52 (Frank Haertlein)
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| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
When the lineman asks "What kind of airplane is this?" when he's done
putting fuel in your plane... triple check to make sure that the fuel
covers are on properly.
Sigh! :-)
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Safety Systems for the CJ |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Frank Stelwagon wrote:
> I think that if you check with your King dealer in your area that they
> have a pitot static switch that they use the start the flight timer in
> the KR-87 ADF. You have to get from a dealer or avionics shop as King
> (Honeywell) no longer sells direct. You also might try eastern avionics
> as they have a web site.
The switch used with the KR-87 is a microswitch with a vane on it that sticks
out into the slipstream from the fuselage. When the aircraft is moving fast
enough it folds backward. You could do the same thing with a stall warning
vane mounted perpendicularly to the fuselage to accomplish the same thing and
it would be more rugged and more readily available.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
Jon,
That's why I *always* double-check everything and usually do my own fueling. Another
thing to look for: make sure that fuel truck says "100LL" or "Mogas" and
not the stuff that goes into lanterns or those funny looking ramp heaters with
wings.
Not that I EVER screw up...but, I did make an extra set of fuel covers that will
go with the airplane to the paint shop.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Remove from list request |
MessagePlease remove me from the list.
Thanks!
-rs-
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
Paint??? Craig painting his CJ? Are you feeling ok?
DaBear
Craig Payne wrote:
> Jon,
>
> That's why I *always* double-check everything and usually do my own
> fueling. Another thing to look for: make sure that fuel truck says
> "100LL" or "Mogas" and not the stuff that goes into lanterns or those
> funny looking ramp heaters with wings.
>
> Not that *_I EVER_* screw up...but, I did make an extra set of fuel
> covers that will go with the airplane to the paint shop.
>
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com <mailto:cpayne@joimail.com>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Remove from list request |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
You can remove yourself by going to http://www.matronics.com/subscribe.
Follow the instructions.
On 11/21/05, Ron Spencer <splitimage.wing@verizon.net> wrote:
> Please remove me from the list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -rs-
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
I prefer to have them come out to refuel it when I am there. I generally will fuel
it myself.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede <jon@email.net>
Subject: Yak-List: warning signs
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
When the lineman asks "What kind of airplane is this?" when he's done
putting fuel in your plane... triple check to make sure that the fuel
covers are on properly.
Sigh! :-)
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Roger Kemp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> I prefer to have them come out to refuel it when I am there. I generally will
fuel it myself.
Losing fuel covers on a CJ6A, like gear-up landings, come under the heading of:
"Those who have and those who will.".
Remember, a preflight walk-around inspection is your friend.
And, yes, I have lost a fuel cover and I have tried to retract the gear on the
ground (saved by the slide lock).
The attempted gear-retraction on the ground happened at OSH in 1999 (if I recall
the year properly). It was the year that Pappy, Batman, and I represented the
Red Star community in the Warbird fly-over. When we taxied clear of the runway
I was so worried about timing the flap retraction so we would "look cool" that
I grabbed the gear lever by brain-fart. How can one grab the gear lever when
trying to retract the flaps? I haven't a clue. I wouldn't think it possible
but Pappy did it and so did I. My only saving grace was my habitual use of the
slide lock when the gear is down.
It only has to happen to you once to put the fear into you.
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> "Those who have and those who will.".
>
> Remember, a preflight walk-around inspection is your friend.
>
> And, yes, I have lost a fuel cover and I have tried to retract the
> gear on the ground (saved by the slide lock).
>
When refueling, I tell the lineperson "you do the fuel, I'll do the
caps and covers...." I remove them for them, get out of the way,
and then
put them back on when fueling is complete, this gives me a chance to
check the physical fuel level, as well as make sure I put the caps and
covers on correctly..... or at least usually I do it correctly!
'cuz 2 years ago I did lose a cover on take off!!!
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Aileron hinge bracket for Yak 52 |
Does anyone have a good source on a replacement for the outboard hinge point
for the aileron on the Yak 52? Thanks
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Jon, Craig,
If you have not done it already, cut the chains on the covers. The chains
will not (as some of us have seen) stop the cover from leaving the area,
they will (as I have seen) cause the errant cover beat the unholy crap out
of your 10K plus paint job before they do finally twist themselves off and
go away. It's bad enough to have to call me to ask for a replacement and
pay $45.00 (one hour shop time) to build you a new cover, but it makes it
doubly bad when you have to touch up your new paint also.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:05 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Re: warning signs
Jon,
That's why I *always* double-check everything and usually do my own
fueling. Another thing to look for: make sure that fuel truck says "100LL"
or "Mogas" and not the stuff that goes into lanterns or those funny looking
ramp heaters with wings.
Not that I EVER screw up...but, I did make an extra set of fuel covers
that will go with the airplane to the paint shop.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Been there, done that, and got the damned T-shirt along with the scratches! It
only took once!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: Yak-List: warning signs
Jon, Craig,
If you have not done it already, cut the chains on the covers. The chains
will not (as some of us have seen) stop the cover from leaving the area,
they will (as I have seen) cause the errant cover beat the unholy crap out
of your 10K plus paint job before they do finally twist themselves off and
go away. It's bad enough to have to call me to ask for a replacement and
pay $45.00 (one hour shop time) to build you a new cover, but it makes it
doubly bad when you have to touch up your new paint also.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:05 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Re: warning signs
Jon,
That's why I *always* double-check everything and usually do my own
fueling. Another thing to look for: make sure that fuel truck says "100LL"
or "Mogas" and not the stuff that goes into lanterns or those funny looking
ramp heaters with wings.
Not that I EVER screw up...but, I did make an extra set of fuel covers
that will go with the airplane to the paint shop.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: warning signs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I had one cover with chain, on the other with chain off. I had a line
boy refuel my airplane at MCO. Halfway home I noticed I was missing a
fuel cover, fortunately it was the one with chain off.
Ernie
On 11/21/05, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> Jon, Craig,
>
> If you have not done it already, cut the chains on the covers. The chains
> will not (as some of us have seen) stop the cover from leaving the area,
> they will (as I have seen) cause the errant cover beat the unholy crap out
> of your 10K plus paint job before they do finally twist themselves off and
> go away. It's bad enough to have to call me to ask for a replacement and
> pay $45.00 (one hour shop time) to build you a new cover, but it makes it
> doubly bad when you have to touch up your new paint also.
>
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Craig Payne
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: yak-list
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: warning signs
>
>
> Jon,
>
> That's why I *always* double-check everything and usually do my own fueling.
> Another thing to look for: make sure that fuel truck says "100LL" or "Mogas"
> and not the stuff that goes into lanterns or those funny looking ramp
> heaters with wings.
>
> Not that I EVER screw up...but, I did make an extra set of fuel covers that
> will go with the airplane to the paint shop.
>
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
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DaBear wrote:
>Paint??? Craig painting his CJ? Are you feeling ok?
>
>DaBear
Paint yes, but not just yet. I'm doing some metal work first, there will be 2 cowls
to paint: the stock one and the "improved efficiency" cowl. (we don't say
'speed' anymore). Before any painting happens I need to master the English Wheel
and pay for an Alaska Cruise for my CJ's Co-owner and mother of my children.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Aileron hinge bracket for Yak 52 |
Does anyone have a good source on a replacement for the outboard hinge point
for the aileron on the Yak 52? Thanks
OK, Here you go..........................
www.m14p.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MikSpin@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Outboard Aileron hinge bracket for Yak 52
Does anyone have a good source on a replacement for the outboard hinge point
for the aileron on the Yak 52? Thanks
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