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Thu 11/24/05


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 06:21 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (Valkyre1)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (Stephen Fox)
     3. 09:33 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (Brian Lloyd)
     4. 10:30 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (Roger Kemp)
     5. 10:57 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (David Marsh)
     6. 11:06 AM - Re: What We Are Thankful For...Parchutes for sure. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     7. 12:15 PM - Re: What We Are Thankful For...Parchutes for sure. (N13472@aol.com)
     8. 05:11 PM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (Cliff Umscheid)
     9. 06:49 PM - Junk Email (Tim Gagnon)
    10. 07:00 PM - Re: Junk Email (Ernest Martinez)
    11. 07:01 PM - Re: Junk Email (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    12. 07:11 PM - Happy Thanksgiving? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    13. 07:15 PM - Re: Junk Email (Cory Emberson)
    14. 07:19 PM - Re: Junk Email (Roger Kemp)
    15. 08:01 PM - Re: Junk Email (Jon Boede)
    16. 08:27 PM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (A. Dennis Savarese)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:21:47 AM PST US
    From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    Dear Matt, Just to let you know that although I have only been on the yak-list for a month or so, I've sent in my contribution (as you know via mail). I've gained so much more through the wisdom and camaraderie here. The Yak-List has also become an early morning ritual with a cup of coffee for me. My recently purchased CJ6 is still in the hanger in Portland, Oregon waiting for it's annual and pre-purchase inspection. Hal (Batman) introduced me to his fine CJ mechanic and builder, so it may take awhile to squeeze me in, but he's worth it. Hal is one of several of your members that went above and beyond to make sure that I had the resources I needed to make the right decision. While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972


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    Time: 06:43:02 AM PST US
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    From: Stephen Fox <jsfox@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Valkyre1 wrote: > While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The > "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 > feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a > chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the > cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for > much do I?) > Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Ok your wallet is going to wince, but for the money you just can't beat the Butler chutes (www.butlerparachutes.com) for comfort. Batman turned me one to this chute and me and my butt are forever grateful. Another factor is these chutes are custom fitted to you and since you are getting a CJ you will get a seat pack designed for the CJ seat pan and you can order with a lumbar support. Steve "SOB" Fox Yak 52 N3043R http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum5.html


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    Time: 09:33:36 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Valkyre1 wrote: > While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The > "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and > my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that > isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be > would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) > Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Steve Fox said it pretty well. The Butler 'chutes are the "Rolls Royce" of 'chutes. But you should also contact Alan Silver of Silver Parachute Sales & Service. Alan always gives a fantastic emergency egress talk at Red Star events and has always given me very good service. He sells the "Softie" 'chutes. Here is his web site: http://www.pia.com/silver/ I was very happy with my "Softie" 'chute especially with the optional temper-foam cushion for my delicate derierre. And Alan's service is second to none. > Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all > - Val N60972 -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 10:30:36 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    Val, Butler is a good chute for sure. Expensive though. The Strong chute with the "NASA foam" 2'' cushion does me just fine. I have two of them. After 2 hours of Yakovating on a XC, my right knee and rear have had it (along with my F-16 trained bladder), so it's time to land. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: What We Are Thankful For... On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Valkyre1 wrote: While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Ok your wallet is going to wince, but for the money you just can't beat the Butler chutes (www.butlerparachutes.com) for comfort. Batman turned me one to this chute and me and my butt are forever grateful. Another factor is these chutes are custom fitted to you and since you are getting a CJ you will get a seat pack designed for the CJ seat pan and you can order with a lumbar support. Steve "SOB" Fox Yak 52 N3043R http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum5.html


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    Time: 10:57:47 AM PST US
    From: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    All of the chutes on the market have a good reputation. I chose Strong after trying Butler and National for size at Sun n Fun. Strong fitted my deformed frame the best; the same may not be true for you. Also recommend a chat with Alan Silver; a tremendous resource.


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    Time: 11:06:20 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...Parchutes for sure.
    In a message dated 11/24/2005 9:23:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Valkyre1@comcast.net writes: Both chutes that has been recommend are good. One thing you really want to check with any of them is their porosity. I once bought two very nice used seat pack chutes. Some time later, my local packer told me when she returned them after repacking, "Jim, if you have to jump in these chutes, make sure you land in the trees, otherwise you're going to break you ankles." She wasn't selling parachutes, so I listened and learned. The porosity is different on canopies. Your weight (tall slim blond, Nordic goddess that you are.) has to be taken into account. My 215 lbs would have had me rocketing under a full canopy to earth with bone crushing result. I ended up buying Strongs at OSH one year and one of the questions first asked me was my weight. When buying used chutes this is often times over looked by the purchasers. Jim "Landing on tippy toes Pappy" Goolsby While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972


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    Time: 12:15:51 PM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...Parchutes for sure.
    In a message dated 11/24/2005 11:07:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cjpilot710@aol.com writes: While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972 Be fore you buy you need/should talk with Alan Silver. I am 6 ft 1 inch and we use Strong chutes WITH Oregon Aero foam in the cushions and a custom pad/filler for the front seat to keep my behind from sitting on the back edge of the chute. Also because of my height I have the MALCOM hood type canopy this really helps when I have a helmet on. Also I would buy the heavy capacity chutes a lite weight person will come down slower, but if you have a large ( over weight) GIB like me or pappy we will not break any thing. If we can be of help please call or e-mail us. Tom & Nora Elliott CASCADE WARBIRDS CJ-6A NX63727 777 Quartz Ave # 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Home 702-723-1223 Fax 702-723-1243 Cell 702-595-2680 Tom Cell 702-808-1316 Nora


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    Time: 05:11:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    Val, To get an idea of what's available in parachutes, pay a visit to your local sky dive club and talk to the "Rigger' or "packer". Make it clear to him that you are not a sport jumper You don't want the jumper's type chute but you decide whether you want a seat pack or a back pack for your CJ. I use a seat pack in the 50; I suspect you will find this suitable for your needs . He'll know what's available locally and can keep an eye out for the best chute/s for the money. Remember, 1) back packs push you closer to the rudder pedals and are sometimes cramped for the long legged . 2) The approved exit strategy for leaving the airplane, first, grab your pocketbook, it's got your makeup kit you know, unfasten your harness, roll inverted and kick clear of the aircraft. Tell your passenger you're going for help, this will keep him quiet for a few more seconds. Warm Regards, Cliff On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:20:59 -0700 "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net> writes: Dear Matt, Just to let you know that although I have only been on the yak-list for a month or so, I've sent in my contribution (as you know via mail). I've gained so much more through the wisdom and camaraderie here. The Yak-List has also become an early morning ritual with a cup of coffee for me. My recently purchased CJ6 is still in the hanger in Portland, Oregon waiting for it's annual and pre-purchase inspection. Hal (Batman) introduced me to his fine CJ mechanic and builder, so it may take awhile to squeeze me in, but he's worth it. Hal is one of several of your members that went above and beyond to make sure that I had the resources I needed to make the right decision. While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972


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    Time: 06:49:04 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
    Subject: Junk Email
    Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email address mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk email and they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having issues. I hope someone did not get it from here. Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! Tim


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    Time: 07:00:56 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Junk Email
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I use gmail now, which has a fantastic spam filter but anytime your email is available to the public you will get spammed. There are bots that scour boards like this gathering email addresses. Ernie On 11/24/05, Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email address > mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk email and > they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having issues. I hope > someone did not get it from here. > > > Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! > > > Tim


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    Time: 07:01:15 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Junk Email
    In a message dated 11/24/2005 9:51:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, NiftyYak50@msn.com writes: None here. Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email address mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk email and they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having issues. I hope someone did not get it from here. Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! Tim


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    Time: 07:11:09 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Happy Thanksgiving?
    keith.goolsby@eds.com, gaf127enl@msn.com, MDSHELLEY@aol.com, yakjock@msn.com, walterfricke@yahoo.com, Rdorsey777@cs.com, dabear@damned.org, TCalloway@hangar-d.com, mason.t@worldnet.att.net, wpairprt@tdstelme.net, radialpower@cox.net, KILOUSMC@aol.com, FamilyGage@aol.com, rvfltd@televar.com, cd001633@mindspring.com, FOUGAPILOT@hotmail.com, N23GD@yahoo.com, jtobul@tobul.com, tormentor34@netzero.net, JandEFinley@comcast.net Its 2200 (10pm) and I still have no less than 20 family in the house. Tomorrow we'll have 51 for our dinner. They are all (except 4) related by blood and marriage representing 4 generations. Our cup runth over. Me and my CJ will be giving a lots of rides tomorrow but she's up it. So to all my aviation friends on this list. Happy Thanksgiving and I hope you have been blessed with family and friends as great as mine. God bless. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby


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    Time: 07:15:46 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Junk Email
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Me, too. Happy Thanksgiving! Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: Yak-List: Junk Email --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I use gmail now, which has a fantastic spam filter but anytime your email is available to the public you will get spammed. There are bots that scour boards like this gathering email addresses. Ernie On 11/24/05, Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email > address mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk > email and they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having > issues. I hope someone did not get it from here. > > > Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! > > > Tim


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    Time: 07:19:03 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Junk Email
    Yes, 98 known spam and 83 supected spam in 3 hours this afternoon. I am using 2 firewalls, Earthlink and Norton. With that, I just hit "delete folder" and poof...all the Debbie's trying to eat Dallas..Hi...Urgent, I need your vital stats so I can give you 2 billion $ from a boxed Swahelli speaking Ugandan living in outer Sloblovia.. and the Congratulations, you've won the Dutch portion of the French Parisian lotter awarded only on the Friday of the Harvest Moon in June all we need to award you your 150 K is your bank accounts so we can email your $ 150 K to you are sent to electron hell! Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gagnon Subject: Yak-List: Junk Email Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email address mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk email and they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having issues. I hope someone did not get it from here. Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! Tim


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    Time: 08:01:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Junk Email
    From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> I think the pick-up in spam is a result of the start of the holiday shopping season. Somebody fired the starting gun on Wednesday... big increase in spam since then. Or, somebody's got a new flavor of spam out that the filter's haven't been updated to catch -- part of the "arms race"; but if I were a spam king and going to try and make a run on the filters, I'd do it to correspond to t-day. Jon do not archive > Yes, 98 known spam and 83 supected spam in 3 hours this afternoon. I am > using 2 firewalls, Earthlink and Norton. With that, I just hit "delete > folder" and poof...all the Debbie's trying to eat Dallas..Hi...Urgent, I > need your vital stats so I can give you 2 billion $ from a boxed Swahelli > speaking Ugandan living in outer Sloblovia.. and the Congratulations, > you've won the Dutch portion of the French Parisian lotter awarded only on > the Friday of the Harvest Moon in June all we need to award you your 150 > K is your bank accounts so we can email your $ 150 K to you are sent to > electron hell! > Doc > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Gagnon > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: 11/24/2005 8:48:20 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Junk Email > > > Has anyone received a rash of junk email lately? I use this email address > mostly for this site and have been inundated with TONS of junk email and > they all hit today. Just curious if anyone else was having issues. I hope > someone did not get it from here. > > Hope all had a great Thanksgiving! > > Tim


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    Time: 08:27:08 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> I am a Strong dealer Val. You can choose a seat pack, chair pack or Squadron pack, which fits the seat pan perfectly. I can be ordered with 1", 2" or 3" cushion on top of the chute (seat or squadron pack) in any color you want with either aerobatic harness or standard harness. They list for $1595 plus shipping and I sell them (your choice for $1276.00 plus $25 shipping. Orders take about 60 days to ship from the date of order. Contact me off list if you're interested. dsavarese@elmore.rr.com Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: What We Are Thankful For... > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > Valkyre1 wrote: > >> While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The >> "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and >> my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that >> isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be >> would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) >> Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? > > Steve Fox said it pretty well. The Butler 'chutes are the "Rolls Royce" of > 'chutes. > > But you should also contact Alan Silver of Silver Parachute Sales & > Service. Alan always gives a fantastic emergency egress talk at Red Star > events and has always given me very good service. He sells the "Softie" > 'chutes. > > Here is his web site: http://www.pia.com/silver/ > > I was very happy with my "Softie" 'chute especially with the optional > temper-foam cushion for my delicate derierre. And Alan's service is second > to none. > >> Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all >> - Val N60972 > > -- > Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. > brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > >




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