Yak-List Digest Archive

Fri 11/25/05


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 05:51 AM - Parachutes (Richard Goode)
     2. 07:38 AM - Re: Happy Thanksgiving? (Roger Kemp)
     3. 09:22 AM - Gear down? (Bob Fitzpatrick)
     4. 09:56 AM - Re: Gear down? (Brian Lloyd)
     5. 02:02 PM - Tire Changeout on a CJ6 (John Brooks)
     6. 08:58 PM - Re: What We Are Thankful For... (ggg6@att.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:51:37 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Parachutes
    My one criterion for a parachute would be one that works when I need it! If, incidentally, it is comfortable; looks good or whatever, that is great. (I am writing as one who has had major airframe failure but was too low to jump!). Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 07:38:01 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Happy Thanksgiving?
    Happy Thanksgiving ,Pappy. Fly safe. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Happy Thanksgiving? Its 2200 (10pm) and I still have no less than 20 family in the house. Tomorrow we'll have 51 for our dinner. They are all (except 4) related by blood and marriage representing 4 generations. Our cup runth over. Me and my CJ will be giving a lots of rides tomorrow but she's up it. So to all my aviation friends on this list. Happy Thanksgiving and I hope you have been blessed with family and friends as great as mine. God bless. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby


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    Time: 09:22:31 AM PST US
    From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
    Subject: Gear down?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> It's been said we beat the gear subject to death but the only things covered were the "brain failure" aspects. What about when you remember to move the lever and bad things happen anyway? Quote from Dec. AOPA, p44: "Pilots are surprised to learn..that 58 percent of gear-up landings are caused by mechanical malfunction and not pilot error." TJ started this discussion talking about "gear ups and collapses". Why do they collapse? Is there something common we should know about? When Venture Craft did the first inspection on my Yak they laid a straight edge along the nose gear linkage to make sure it went over center when down and locked. Mine didn't and I had to file the stops to get the needed travel. Does everyone check this? "Da Bear" had a gear incident with his 52 a few years ago at MTW. Al, how about sharing the experience. There must be others with similar stories to tell. I have yet to rebuild my main actuators due to comments here and elsewhere about problems AFTER rebuild due to bad seals and/or assembly. I drain the "snot" (can't we come up with a better name for this?) valve religiously. We clean and oil the air tanks at annual as well as shooting air tool oil into the actuator line at the wing root fittings. We jack the plane and cycle the gear. Action is smooth and positive, 8 seconds each way. My mechanic and I share the attitude "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". We overhaul engines when they lose compression, make metal, burn oil, etc., not because the Hobbs meter says so. When do you tear into a perfectly functioning landing gear? Are there warning signs or do we just use a calender? I don't know. bob Boris 52BN


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    Time: 09:56:02 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Gear down?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Bob Fitzpatrick wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > > It's been said we beat the gear subject to death but the only things > covered were the "brain failure" aspects. What about when you remember > to move the lever and bad things happen anyway? Quote from Dec. > AOPA, p44: "Pilots are surprised to learn..that 58 percent of gear-up > landings are caused by mechanical malfunction and not pilot error." That is because many of them fly Cessnas with that brain-dead hydraulic system. ;-) > TJ started this discussion talking about "gear ups and collapses". Why > do they collapse? Because bone-heads move the gear lever from "down" to "up" while on the ground. (And because I tried to do it I get to call other like me "bone heads".) > Is there something common we should know about? When > Venture Craft did the first inspection on my Yak they laid a straight > edge along the nose gear linkage to make sure it went over center when > down and locked. Mine didn't and I had to file the stops to get the > needed travel. Does everyone check this? > "Da Bear" had a gear incident with his 52 a few years ago at MTW. Al, > how about sharing the experience. There must be others with similar > stories to tell. Yeah, I remember that and remember giving my invaluable $0.02 worth. > I have yet to rebuild my main actuators due to comments here and > elsewhere about problems AFTER rebuild due to bad seals and/or assembly. > I drain the "snot" (can't we come up with a better name for this?) valve > religiously. We clean and oil the air tanks at annual as well as > shooting air tool oil into the actuator line at the wing root fittings. > We jack the plane and cycle the gear. Action is smooth and positive, 8 > seconds each way. My mechanic and I share the attitude "if it ain't > broke, don't fix it". If you fly it (exercise it) regularly, maintain it regularly, and clean its innards regularly, you are less likely to have a problem. > We overhaul engines when they lose compression, make metal, burn oil, > etc., not because the Hobbs meter says so. When do you tear into a > perfectly functioning landing gear? Are there warning signs or do we > just use a calender? I don't know. The problem is we have measurements for engines such as oil consumption, compression, engine oil analysis, oil filter examination, etc., that tell us when the engine is in distress. We don't have anything equivalent for the gear system. You can only examine the bits an pieces or just rebuild phophylactically. -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak@lloyd.com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 02:02:15 PM PST US
    From: "John Brooks" <orcaspilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Tire Changeout on a CJ6
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "John Brooks" <orcaspilot@hotmail.com> Q: Any imput on any specific tricks or other things to watch for in changing out a main tire on the CJ6? No threads came up on a search so any help would be appreciated! I have the CJ Maintenance Manual but it does not go into a step-by-step method which I could use. I've changed out several tires on my Piper but this will obviously be different. Q: I also plan to use a Desser retread which seems to have a good reputation for wear...Any thoughts to the contrary? Thanks guys! Jack Coe N670CJ


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    Time: 08:58:29 PM PST US
    From: ggg6@att.net
    Subject: Re: What We Are Thankful For...
    Hi Val: Gary in Las Vegas, CJ, N22YK. I have a set of Strong Squadron, 26 foot, Low Porosity, Seat Pack Chutes.. before them I had a pair of Strong 26 foot seat Pack Chutes, but with the flat cushions, very uncomfortable, so sold them, and bought the new chutes with the Squadron styly seats on them,, very comfortable, never uncomfortable even on long trips.. Just a little info for You... They also fit the CJ seats perfectly. I'm 5' 10 '' and no problem with head clearance on the canopy, but it really doesn't matter much as I usually fly with the canopy open,, like open cockpit airplanes... Have fun with Your new Toy... Gary Gabbard -------------- Original message from "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>: -------------- Dear Matt, Just to let you know that although I have only been on the yak-list for a month or so, I've sent in my contribution (as you know via mail). I've gained so much more through the wisdom and camaraderie here. The Yak-List has also become an early morning ritual with a cup of coffee for me. My recently purchased CJ6 is still in the hanger in Portland, Oregon waiting for it's annual and pre-purchase inspection. Hal (Batman) introduced me to his fine CJ mechanic and builder, so it may take awhile to squeeze me in, but he's worth it. Hal is one of several of your members that went above and beyond to make sure that I had the resources I needed to make the right decision. While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my back complains if I sit too long. The ability to have a chute that isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972 <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> Hi Val: Gary in Las Vegas, CJ, N22YK. I have a set of Strong Squadron,26 foot, Low Porosity, Seat Pack Chutes.. before them I had a pair of Strong 26 foot seat Pack Chutes, but with the flat cushions, very uncomfortable, so sold them, and bought the new chutes with the Squadron styly seats on them,, very comfortable, never uncomfortable even on long trips.. Just a little info for You... They also fit the CJ seats perfectly. I'm 5' 10 '' and no problem with head clearance on the canopy, but it really doesn't matter much as I usually fly with the canopy open,, like open cockpit airplanes... Have fun with Your new Toy... Gary Gabbard -------------- Original message from "Valkyre1" Valkyre1@comcast.net: -------------- <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> Dear Matt, Just to let you know that although I have only been on the yak-list for a month or so, I've sent in my contribution (as you know via mail). I've gained so much more through the wisdom and camaraderie here. The Yak-List has also become an early morning ritual with a cup of coffee for me. My recently purchased CJ6 is still in the hanger in Portland, Oregon waiting for it's annual and pre-purchase inspection. Hal (Batman)introduced me to his fine CJ mechanic and builder, so it may take awhile to squeeze me in, but he's worth it. Hal isone of several of your membersthat went above and beyond to make sure that I had the resources I needed tomake the right decision. While we're at it, I still need to purchase two parachutes. The "Strong" line has been recommended. I am also tall at nearly 6 feet and my backcomplains if I sit too long.The ability to havea chutethat isn't too bulky to permit an easy egress from the cockpit if need be would be a factor as well. ( I don't ask for much do I?) Any suggestions from "the breakfast club"? Many thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving to all - Val N60972 <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->




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