Yak-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/24/05


Total Messages Posted: 28



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     1. 12:20 AM - Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. (Brian Lloyd)
     2. 12:50 AM - Before (Frank Stelwagon)
     3. 01:39 AM - treat yourself (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
     4. 03:56 AM - Re: Sad news folks...... so close to xmas time. (fish@aviation-tech.com)
     5. 04:11 AM - Re: Seasons Greetings (Craig Payne)
     6. 04:32 AM - Re: Re: Re: Vote (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     7. 05:33 AM - Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. (Roger Kemp)
     8. 05:34 AM - Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. (Mark Williamson)
     9. 05:42 AM - emailing: MerryChrissss-chec 6 (Roger Kemp)
    10. 05:45 AM - emailing: HO HO HO (Roger Kemp)
    11. 06:03 AM - Canopy bungee Cord (Roger Kemp)
    12. 06:30 AM - Re: Canopy bungee Cord (Shane Golden)
    13. 06:42 AM - Red Bull Air Race today 3pm ET NBC (Mark Williamson)
    14. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: Re: VoteRe: Re: Vote (Valkyre1)
    15. 07:26 AM - Re: overvoltage relay protection module for CJ6A (Ernest Martinez)
    16. 08:15 AM - kwanzaa (Mark Williamson)
    17. 08:24 AM - Re: kwanzaa (ggg6@att.net)
    18. 08:27 AM - Canopy bungee Cord (Frank Haertlein)
    19. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: Seasons Greetings (Fraser, Gus)
    20. 09:35 AM - Re: Canopy bungee Cord (Roger Kemp)
    21. 09:45 AM - Re: Canopy bungee Cord (Roger Kemp)
    22. 10:15 AM - RPA commentary (was: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............) (Brian Lloyd)
    23. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Re: Vote (Cliff Umscheid)
    24. 02:39 PM - Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. (Cliff Umscheid)
    25. 02:50 PM - Re: RPA Commentary (Craig Payne)
    26. 03:01 PM - Re: Canopy bungee Cord (Cliff Umscheid)
    27. 04:23 PM - Re: kwanzaa (Cliff Umscheid)
    28. 08:36 PM - Re: Canopy bungee Cord (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:20:42 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Frank Haertlein wrote: > It seems to me that for an organization like Red Stars we really > should have regional representation. For example, if you fail to > vote for the current bylaws then RPA will not have regional > representation. Oh no! A fate worse than death! Say it isn't so! > I think it would then fall on the National > coordinators (guys like Drew) to organize EVERYTHING. Yeah, I suspect you would depend on others to organize EVERYTHING for you. > I > doubt they are going to do that for all regions of the country on a > continuing basis. Bottom line is few will devote a majority of their > time and effort for free so you have little choice but to divide > those responsibilities regionally among willing volunteers. Funny thing is, I agree with you. What I don't agree upon is that, somehow, the creation of this intermediate structure is going to magically create more people to do the work and to create more volunteers. We now have a *regional* coordinator. Now we can put on fly-ins we couldn't put on before! "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I put on a fly-in?" "Yes you may." "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I write an article about flight safety?" "Yes you may." "Mr. Regional Coordinator, if I fly my airplane in a safe manner, may I wear anything in the cockpit that makes me comfortable?" "No you may not." > All RPA staff are volunteers. So, yes, ohh yee little Brian > spunt, the vote does affect RPA's organizational abilities and thus > your flying activities as part of an organized group. Nope, it does not. As I said, there will be those who will make things happen. They do not depend on an organization. They see something they want to do and they do it. Like Craig and Pappy did for MTW for so many years. Others will want to participate and they will coordinate amongst themselves. It will get done. Layers of "management" will not make that work better. So, let me get this straight: without a hierarchical organization, it is not possible for people to work together to achieve what they want to achieve? Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot put on a fly-in? Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot publish useful information? Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot do formation training? And these layers of bureaucracy we are creating will be able to tell us what to do "for our own good". Fortunately we have the RPA to tell us that, not only can't we put on an event without their approval, we must wear our flight suits too. <sigh> I already have the FAA, DHS, and TSA to tell me what I can and can't do. But I guess there aren't enough people telling us what to do and how to fly that we have to create more ourselves. As I said, funny things happen when one calls into question sacred cows. We are so used to working within hierarchical structure that we think we need to create the same kind of structure in order to accomplish anything for ourselves. Once upon a time there was a man who worked very hard for a city keeping it beautiful. His favorite job was keeping the brass cannon at the front of the City Hall polished and gleaming. It was said that no one could polish brass like this man. But the man became restless. His pay was low and he wanted to have more things in life so he decided to start his own business. He quit his job and took out his life savings ... and bought his own brass cannon. You know, I think we should make the RPA symbol a red star with a brass cannon in the middle. -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 12:50:17 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Before
    I seem to remember that when I first joined the YAK Pilots Association there was one person that put out a news letter with all sorts of valuable information in it. There was maintenance info, problems found info, and how to info. Now we have Red Star, a large group, sometimes we have a news letter, that is mostly FAST info, where did all the good information go? It seems the only place to get the good info (over voltage modules, plug wire harnesses, engine problems, etc) is on the YAK-LIST. I agree with Brian an organization itself does not produce anything. I am treasurer of an organization and the financial statement contains amounts spent, where spent, income, and balance, I think the one I just saw for the RPA was a little short. Frank CJ6-A N23021


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    Time: 01:39:23 AM PST US
    From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j@yakuk.com>
    Subject: treat yourself
    Hi YAK community world wide. Just in case your wife did not buy or you did not find the right a/c for your wife as a present I have the just the deal your looking for :>)) A perfect flying and well restored YAK 18A all details here, sold in Euro but approx 63,000 USD http://www.yakuk.com/yak18a.asp When you hear that the "Chinese copy" sells for twice that price you can see what a bargain this is, a bit of flying history that will turn heads at any show or fly in. We are acting as broker on this a/c and its only offered for sale due to unfortunate family reasons. seasons greetings to all, mark www.yakuk.com ps, who spotted the joke? :>))


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    Time: 03:56:07 AM PST US
    From: fish@aviation-tech.com
    Subject: Re: Sad news folks...... so close to xmas time.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com Yaksters, I received this email from a yahoo group that I belong to and thought it might be of interest to everyone. Sorry John Fischer California City, CA <tt> CNN reports now indicate all aboard perished when they slammed into the ground. There are many dogs having takeaway tonight and hampering the clean up and FAA is having trouble sorting thru the wreckage and massive cargo haul of gifts. P2 --- In flyingclothing@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <thuddriver2000@y...> wrote: > > some very sad news to report - > some people maybe shocked or disturbed at this.... > > Many news items are carrying this as a lead story... > > It seems reports are coming in that Santa Claus has been shot down by > mistake entering a well defined USA restricted no fly zone over north > east USA. > > Live reports from the scene indicate substantaial damage to homes and > farms in Upper Virginia state.. > > The Pentagon/USAF has not released any detailed information on the > shoot down as of yet. > It does seems his transponder was on tho as NORAD has admitted to > tracking him so far since he arrived north of the border early > yesterday. It was viewable online until recently. > > FAA has not confirmed if Santa had been given prior permission to land > on the farm 104 dirt road airstrip. The area is known for its > restricted access due to the sensetive nature of _____ and ______. > > Santa was intercepted by some F-16s ADF of the local ANG unit. The > pilots were in no mood to comment tonight either. They were under > orders to "shoot to kill".. regardless of civilians onboard the > unknown aircraft/object. > > It doesnt make clear what impact this will have on Christmas day for > the rest of the world so far. > > I will report later on any breaking news. > > So sorry to report this to you.. > > P2 > </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <tt>SPONSORED LINKS</tt> and craft supply</tt> hobby</tt> seat</tt> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <tt>Visit your group "flyingclothing" on the web. </tt> <tt>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: <a ">flyingclothing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com </tt> Terms of Service.</tt> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->


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    Time: 04:11:28 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: Seasons Greetings
    Pappy wrote: > > > > Kwanzaa? In all the years I flew to Africa - no one, - no where -EVER > > -talked about Kwanzaa. NO SUCH HOLIDAY. It was "started" by a black > > activists former jail bird con-man who's now a professor of "Black > > Studies" in (guess where) California. The black community is being > > duped again Gotcha! You shouldn't drag your chain around where someone can step on it! Being absolutely Politically Correct, I just couldn't miss anyone :>) I believe Kwanzaa was invented by a professor from Governors State University in Chicago as a celebration of ethnic roots kinda thing. I confess to not knowing much more than that but there used to be a great rib place nearby...Sooo, that makes me an expert in todays world. But heh, my Yak copy is faster than your Yak copy :>) Cheers & Beers Craig Payne


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    Time: 04:32:06 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Re: Vote
    Ever hear the old Chinese story about which are the better birds, hawks or doves? Hawks are furious predator. They fly very fast and are quick in the kill. And like all predators they are loners. They do not hunt nor flock together. Of course doves flock together. They eat what they can of the earth; worms and seeds. They too are fast flyers. Not as fast as the hawk of course but much more maneuverable. And while in a flock the stronger faster and more maneuverable birds have a better chance of surviving an attack from the hawk. Thus the hawk does himself in. He takes the weaker birds, leaving the stronger swifter and birds with more agility. Since these birds flock together, mating produces more doves with these attributes. (The Chinese noted Darwin's observations before he did.) Thus for the hawk it becomes harder and harder to kill doves. Than one day, usually in the dead of winter, the hawk can't catch the doves. They are still not as fast but now far more agile. The hawk starves to death, falls from his lofty perch on to the hard snow and come spring the doves eat the worms that fed upon the hawk. "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherent the earth." Sound familiar? And it's still not your problem. :) Merriest of Christmas, Happiest Hanukkah, and Great New Year to all. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby


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    Time: 05:33:16 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Brain, Tell us it is not so, you bought a "Brass Cannon!" Doc > [Original Message] > From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 12/24/2005 2:20:09 AM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > Frank Haertlein wrote: > > > It seems to me that for an organization like Red Stars we really > > should have regional representation. For example, if you fail to > > vote for the current bylaws then RPA will not have regional > > representation. > > Oh no! A fate worse than death! Say it isn't so! > > > I think it would then fall on the National > > coordinators (guys like Drew) to organize EVERYTHING. > > Yeah, I suspect you would depend on others to organize EVERYTHING for you. > > > I > > doubt they are going to do that for all regions of the country on a > > continuing basis. Bottom line is few will devote a majority of their > > time and effort for free so you have little choice but to divide > > those responsibilities regionally among willing volunteers. > > Funny thing is, I agree with you. > > What I don't agree upon is that, somehow, the creation of this > intermediate structure is going to magically create more people to do > the work and to create more volunteers. We now have a *regional* > coordinator. Now we can put on fly-ins we couldn't put on before! > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I put on a fly-in?" > > "Yes you may." > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I write an article about flight safety?" > > "Yes you may." > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, if I fly my airplane in a safe manner, may I > wear anything in the cockpit that makes me comfortable?" > > "No you may not." > > > All RPA staff are volunteers. So, yes, ohh yee little Brian > > spunt, the vote does affect RPA's organizational abilities and thus > > your flying activities as part of an organized group. > > Nope, it does not. As I said, there will be those who will make things > happen. They do not depend on an organization. They see something they > want to do and they do it. Like Craig and Pappy did for MTW for so many > years. Others will want to participate and they will coordinate amongst > themselves. It will get done. Layers of "management" will not make that > work better. > > So, let me get this straight: without a hierarchical organization, it is > not possible for people to work together to achieve what they want to > achieve? Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot put on a fly-in? > Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot publish useful information? > Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot do formation training? > > And these layers of bureaucracy we are creating will be able to tell us > what to do "for our own good". Fortunately we have the RPA to tell us > that, not only can't we put on an event without their approval, we must > wear our flight suits too. <sigh> I already have the FAA, DHS, and TSA > to tell me what I can and can't do. But I guess there aren't enough > people telling us what to do and how to fly that we have to create more > ourselves. > > As I said, funny things happen when one calls into question sacred cows. > We are so used to working within hierarchical structure that we think we > need to create the same kind of structure in order to accomplish > anything for ourselves. > > Once upon a time there was a man who worked very hard for a city keeping > it beautiful. His favorite job was keeping the brass cannon at the front > of the City Hall polished and gleaming. It was said that no one could > polish brass like this man. > > But the man became restless. His pay was low and he wanted to have more > things in life so he decided to start his own business. He quit his job > and took out his life savings ... and bought his own brass cannon. > > You know, I think we should make the RPA symbol a red star with a brass > cannon in the middle. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:34:51 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............
    <43AD04B4.9030804@lloyd.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net> okay brian, you've put a lot of time into these emails so this must be something you feel strongly about. why don't you write a positive note, without any personal attacks, about what you would like to see in "an" RPA. or do you just want it to go away? what the hell is a "spunt"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote.............. > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > Frank Haertlein wrote: > >> It seems to me that for an organization like Red Stars we really >> should have regional representation. For example, if you fail to >> vote for the current bylaws then RPA will not have regional >> representation. > > Oh no! A fate worse than death! Say it isn't so! > >> I think it would then fall on the National >> coordinators (guys like Drew) to organize EVERYTHING. > > Yeah, I suspect you would depend on others to organize EVERYTHING for you. > >> I >> doubt they are going to do that for all regions of the country on a >> continuing basis. Bottom line is few will devote a majority of their >> time and effort for free so you have little choice but to divide >> those responsibilities regionally among willing volunteers. > > Funny thing is, I agree with you. > > What I don't agree upon is that, somehow, the creation of this > intermediate structure is going to magically create more people to do the > work and to create more volunteers. We now have a *regional* coordinator. > Now we can put on fly-ins we couldn't put on before! > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I put on a fly-in?" > > "Yes you may." > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, may I write an article about flight safety?" > > "Yes you may." > > "Mr. Regional Coordinator, if I fly my airplane in a safe manner, may I > wear anything in the cockpit that makes me comfortable?" > > "No you may not." > >> All RPA staff are volunteers. So, yes, ohh yee little Brian >> spunt, the vote does affect RPA's organizational abilities and thus >> your flying activities as part of an organized group. > > Nope, it does not. As I said, there will be those who will make things > happen. They do not depend on an organization. They see something they > want to do and they do it. Like Craig and Pappy did for MTW for so many > years. Others will want to participate and they will coordinate amongst > themselves. It will get done. Layers of "management" will not make that > work better. > > So, let me get this straight: without a hierarchical organization, it is > not possible for people to work together to achieve what they want to > achieve? Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot put on a fly-in? > Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot publish useful information? > Without a regional "coordinator" we cannot do formation training? > > And these layers of bureaucracy we are creating will be able to tell us > what to do "for our own good". Fortunately we have the RPA to tell us > that, not only can't we put on an event without their approval, we must > wear our flight suits too. <sigh> I already have the FAA, DHS, and TSA to > tell me what I can and can't do. But I guess there aren't enough people > telling us what to do and how to fly that we have to create more > ourselves. > > As I said, funny things happen when one calls into question sacred cows. > We are so used to working within hierarchical structure that we think we > need to create the same kind of structure in order to accomplish anything > for ourselves. > > Once upon a time there was a man who worked very hard for a city keeping > it beautiful. His favorite job was keeping the brass cannon at the front > of the City Hall polished and gleaming. It was said that no one could > polish brass like this man. > > But the man became restless. His pay was low and he wanted to have more > things in life so he decided to start his own business. He quit his job > and took out his life savings ... and bought his own brass cannon. > > You know, I think we should make the RPA symbol a red star with a brass > cannon in the middle. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > >


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    Time: 05:42:33 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: emailing: MerryChrissss-chec 6
    Guys, Which is it...Northcom shooting down Santa or is it US Air ingesting Santa? I proof that it was not Northcom that smoked Santa with a AIM-120 but US Air sucked him down the intake. Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 05:45:25 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: emailing: HO HO HO
    This one is an oldie but a goodie... a 3 Ship of Holoman F-4's. HO HO HO. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 06:03:59 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Canopy bungee Cord
    Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 06:30:47 AM PST US
    From: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
    Subject: Canopy bungee Cord
    Yep. Had Jimmy Brown order warm dry weather so the wood will be ready for the BBQ. ;-) By the way, we have 36 pilots and 34 aircraft signed up now. Shane -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 06:42:00 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Subject: Red Bull Air Race today 3pm ET NBC
    <4CEAA39E-69DA-4AF5-AE27-8A9AFE6D1E14@adelphia.net> NBC will air the Red Bull Air Race World Series season finale on Saturday, December 24 at 3 p.m. ET. The broadcast covers the San Francisco event held in October, pitting pilots Mike Mangold, Kirby Chambliss and others from around the globe in the unique competition that combines aerobatic flight and speed.


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    Time: 06:50:57 AM PST US
    From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Re: VoteRe: Re: Vote
    Doc, Pappy and Happy "Listers", I lived in South Africa, Botswana to be exact, for nine months and never heard of Kwanzaa either. There were,however, many who celebrated Christmas there. When did celebrating Christmas ever become such an issue anyway? What's with this new politically correct "Happy Holidays" thing? It's just another beautiful celebration that we can all choose to participate in or not. I don't hear those of us who do trying to tell anyone else that they can't say Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwanzaa, or anything else that they choose. This is a free country....isn't it? The whole thing would be ridiculous if the mind set of those behind it didn't worry me. Since I'm having a pretty good time up here on my soap box voicing my personal opinions, I'll add that rules for society are the glue that keeps us all from living in caves and eternally fighting and killing each other over a haunch of meat and WHO gets to live in the cave. We're lucky if we get a voice in forming the rules. We don't have the fangs, fur, claws and other things it takes to survive nature on our own. We need each other for that....and "ain't it wonderful" when it works. Without the ability to pool our vastly different talents, THERE WOULD BE NO CJs - YAKs - or FORMATION FLYING! "Aaargh!" What a horrible thought. So vote and "God Bless us, each and every one" ( T. Tim.) MERRY CHRISTMAS and a Very Happy New Year! See 'Ya then. Val (the Valkyrie)


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    Time: 07:26:25 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: overvoltage relay protection module for CJ6A
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I may be interested also then. Ernie On 12/23/05, Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > > Ernest Martinez wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > > > Brian, does it replace the stock reg, or is added to the existing system. > > This will be a module that is added to the existing electrical system > and VR. It does not change the operation of any of the existing > components and is only minimally invasive to the existing wiring. The > only thing we do is insert a pair of relay contacts between the existing > generator switch and the generator. The rest is a small amount of new > wiring. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > >


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    Time: 08:15:20 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Subject: kwanzaa
    I don't think intolerance and ignorance are in the true spirit of this holiday season. If you'd like to learn more about Kwanzaa then you can go to http://www.tike.com/celeb-kw.htm (or one of the many other websites). You're right, you won't see it celebrated in Africa, because it is not (and never claimed to be) an African holiday. Before you attack another man's traditions you might first think about your own traditions and where they came from. Every tradition has humble beginnings. If you don't know where your traditions originated then you might be surprised to find out. You might also think back to the year 1966 and the civil rights struggles in this country. It was only one year earlier that Congress voted to remove voting restrictions which were designed to make it more difficult for blacks to vote in the south. Two years earlier three civil-rights workers, working to register black voters, were brutally murdered in Neshoba County Mississippi. Etcetera, etcetera. The backlash was seen in the creation of militant groups like the Black Panthers but it was also seen in the creation of Kwanzaa, which emphasizes progress through high self-esteem, family, community, faith and peace. If I were an African American and a celebrator of Kwanzaa and I read what has been said by some of you about my holiday, then it, without doubt, would reinforce my belief that bigotry and intolerance still thrive in this country - thereby reinforcing the racial gap that so many people have fought so hard to close. Try to show a little sensitivity and respect this holiday season - and all year long.


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    Time: 08:24:06 AM PST US
    From: ggg6@att.net
    Subject: Re: kwanzaa
    Gentlemen and Ladies,.. This site is for Airplanes and Flying ! So how about finding another Web site if you have to vent your politically correct or incorrect views, don't do it here as we will have another hundred responses to them, they get very boring, and degrades the usefulness of the web Site.. Gary Gabbard! -------------- Original message from "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net>: -------------- I don't think intolerance and ignorance are in the true spirit of this holiday season. If you'd like to learn more about Kwanzaa then you can go to http://www.tike.com/celeb-kw.htm (or one of the many other websites). You're right, you won't see it celebrated in Africa, because it is not (and never claimed to be) an African holiday. Before you attack another man's traditions you might first think about your own traditions and where they came from. Every tradition has humble beginnings. If you don't know where your traditions originated then you might be surprised to find out. You might also think back to the year 1966 and the civil rights struggles in this country. It was only one year earlier that Congress voted to remove voting restrictions which were designed to make it more difficult for blacks to vote in the south. Two years earlier three civil-rights workers, working to register black voters, were brutally murdered in Neshoba County Mississippi. Etcetera, etcetera. The backlash was seen in the creation of militant groups like the Black Panthers but it was also seen in the creation of Kwanzaa, which emphasizes progress through high self-esteem, family, community, faith and peace. If I were an African American and a celebrator of Kwanzaa and I read what has been said by some of you about my holiday, then it, without doubt, would reinforce my belief that bigotry and intolerance still thrive in this country - thereby reinforcing the racial gap that so many people have fought so hard to close. Try to show a little sensitivity and respect this holiday season - and all year long. <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> Gentlemen and Ladies,.. This site is for Airplanes and Flying !So how about finding another Web site if you have to vent your politically correct or incorrect views, don't do it here as wewill have another hundred responses to them, they get very boring, and degrades the usefulness of the web Site..Gary Gabbard! -------------- Original message from "Mark Williamson" yakk52@verizon.net: -------------- <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> I don't think intolerance and ignorance are in the true spirit of this holiday season. If you'd like to learn more about Kwanzaa then you can go to http://www.tike.com/celeb-kw.htm(or one of the many other websites). You're right, you won't see it celebrated in Africa, because it is not (and never claimed to be) an African holiday. Before you attack another man'straditions you might first think about your own traditions and where they came from. Every tradition has humble beginnings. If you don't know where your traditions originated then you might besurprised to find out. You might also think back to the year 1966 and the civil rights struggles in this country. It was only one year earlier that Congress voted to remove voting restrictions which were designed to make it more difficult for blacks to vote in the south. Two years earlier three civil-rights workers, working to register black voters, were brutally murdered in Neshoba County Mississippi. Etcetera, etcetera. The backlash was seen in the creation of militant groups like the Black Panthers but it was also seen in the creation of Kwanzaa, which emphasizes progress through high self-esteem, family, community, faith and peace. If I were an African American and a celebrator of Kwanzaa and I read what has been said by some of you about my holiday, then it, without doubt, would reinforce my belief that bigotry and intolerance still thrive in this country - thereby reinforcing the racial gap that so many people have fought so hardto close. Try to show a little sensitivity and respect this holiday season -and all year long. <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->


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    Time: 08:27:02 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Canopy bungee Cord
    Doc It's been years since I did mine but as I remember you CAN get to the attach point under the instrument panel. Also, I made the bungee cords myself by taking a 3 or 4 inch piece of aluminum tube and inserting the bungee into it. I then crimped the aluminum tube in such a way that the bungee was securely held. Flatten one end of the tube and then drill a hole in it. Voila, you have just created a home made bungee cord end. Do the same with the other end of the bungee cord and you will have a dirt cheap repair for your canopy retract system. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


    Message 19


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    Time: 08:31:23 AM PST US
    From: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
    Subject: Re: Seasons Greetings
    Personally, as a Celt ( from Scotland, Ireland or Wales), with no invisible means of support, I am wishing everyone happy Winter Solstice, now where are those Virgins at ????, just going out to the garden to erect a large stone circle, that will also function as a calendar so I know when to plant the crops. I am sorry America but please get over yourself so that we can all just get on this PC bollocks has just got totally out of hand. Damn, no virgins in Jersey :))) Gus _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Subject: Yak-List: Re: Seasons Greetings Pappy wrote: > > > > Kwanzaa? In all the years I flew to Africa - no one, - no where -EVER > > -talked about Kwanzaa. NO SUCH HOLIDAY. It was "started" by a black > > activists former jail bird con-man who's now a professor of "Black > > Studies" in (guess where) California. The black community is being > > duped again Gotcha! You shouldn't drag your chain around where someone can step on it! Being absolutely Politically Correct, I just couldn't miss anyone :>) I believe Kwanzaa was invented by a professor from Governors State University in Chicago as a celebration of ethnic roots kinda thing. I confess to not knowing much more than that but there used to be a great rib place nearby...Sooo, that makes me an expert in todays world. But heh, my Yak copy is faster than your Yak copy :>) Cheers & Beers Craig Payne <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Personally, as a Celt ( from Scotland, Ireland or Wales), with no invisible means of support, I am wishing everyone happy Winter Solstice, now where are those Virgins at ????, just going out to the garden to erect a large stone circle, that will also function as a calendar so I know when to plant the crops. <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I am sorry America but please get over yourself so that we can all just get on this PC bollocks has just got totally out of hand. <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Damn, no virgins in Jersey :))) <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Gus From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne yak-list Subject: Yak-List: Re: Seasons Greetings Pappy wrote: Kwanzaa? In all the years I flew to Africa - no one, - no where -EVER -talked about Kwanzaa. NO SUCH HOLIDAY. It was "started" by a black activists former jail bird con-man who's now a professor of "Black Studies" in (guess where) California. The black community is being duped again Gotcha! You shouldn't drag your chain around where someone can step on it! Being absolutely Politically Correct, I just couldn't miss anyone :) I believe Kwanzaa was invented by a professor from Governors State University in Chicago as a celebration of ethnic roots kinda thing. I confess to not knowing much more than that but there used to be a great rib place nearby...Sooo, that makes me an expert in todays world. But heh, my Yak copy is faster than your Yak copy :) Cheers Beers Craig Payne


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    Time: 09:35:08 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Canopy bungee Cord
    Thanks Frank. Will try that on Monday. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Haertlein Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Doc It's been years since I did mine but as I remember you CAN get to the attach point under the instrument panel. Also, I made the bungee cords myself by taking a 3 or 4 inch piece of aluminum tube and inserting the bungee into it. I then crimped the aluminum tube in such a way that the bungee was securely held. Flatten one end of the tube and then drill a hole in it. Voila, you have just created a home made bungee cord end. Do the same with the other end of the bungee cord and you will have a dirt cheap repair for your canopy retract system. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


    Message 21


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    Time: 09:45:34 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Canopy bungee Cord
    OK, so I now have the aluminum soda straw to crimp on the canopy bungee cord ends. Shane's orderd the warm front for a warmer Waycross. Now I'm still looking for that 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers to crawl under the left side on my insrtument panel. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Golden Subject: RE: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Yep. Had Jimmy Brown order warm dry weather so the wood will be ready for the BBQ. ;-) By the way, we have 36 pilots and 34 aircraft signed up now. Shane -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 10:15:47 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: RPA commentary (was: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Mark Williamson wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net> > > okay brian, you've put a lot of time into these emails so this must be > something you feel strongly about. why don't you write a positive note, I write on a positive note quite regularly, especially when I feel positive. When it comes to RPA I don't usually feel very positive so my notes on that topic tend to be less so. (And that because I do not feel positive about the organization doesn't mean that I am not wildly positive about most of the people who go about volunteering their skills to help others in the name of RPA.) > without any personal attacks, What personal attacks? If I were going to call Frank Haertlein an idiot I would have said something to the effect of, "Frank, you are a blank-minded blathering idiot." I didn't. Subtlety is not my bag. Ask the others who have been on this list from the beginning. > about what you would like to see in "an" > RPA. or do you just want it to go away? Funny you should ask that question. As a member of RPA (I paid my $37 just so I could say those words) I think it is headed down the road of becoming yet another invasive and limiting organization that exists for the self-aggrandizement of the "inner circle". Every time I think about RPA I keep thinking about Orwell's "Animal Farm." There is one thing that absolutely sticks in my craw. It is a small thing but it is symptomatic of a larger problem. This is the issue of "thou shalt wear a nomex flight suit". The reasons are couched in terms of safety to somehow make them acceptable but they are just another way of a group telling an individual "we know better than you do". Whether or not I wear a flight suit has no impact on how I fly or whether I am a hazard or an asset in a flight. The whole concept of freedom is to allow people to make their own decisions about how they choose to live their own lives. I have analyzed the risks and have determined that, in the heat of summer, the risk of needing to survive a flash-fire in the cockpit is a heck of a lot less than the risk of heat and dehydration on my performance. Except I don't get to make that choice. So what does RPA buy me? Let's see ... it does buy Drew "firing" Jeff Linebaugh for some strange reason. I never did understand that one. I was staying at Pappy's house when the call came in. Pappy got rather agitated. Seems Drew had "fired" Jeff as association safety officer for some reason. (The intimation was that it was personal but I just don't know.) Now all I know is that, for as long as I have known Jeff, all he has ever tried to do is help people operate their aircraft safely. His well-known "EP" postings are respected and everyone I know of looks forward to them. They are always a challenge. So why would Drew need to fire Jeff, a volunteer just trying to help others understand and operate their aircraft safely (without getting invasive and tell them what they *must* do)? I dunno. So we have the inner cabal "firing" volunteers and making bad decisions for me in the cockpit. It sure doesn't feel good to me. So to answer your question, no, I don't care if RPA lives or dies. If RPA wasn't here there would still be people putting on fly-ins and there would still be people helping other people with their airplanes. As far as I can tell, its only real use is to act as a shell upon which we can hang our FAST affiliation. And that is not a bad thing. We need that. Fortunately we have Pappy and Mike "Blade" Filucci keeping that going. I suspect that even without RPA we would find a way to keep our FAST affiliation going. Oh, and I have to pay an extra $10 to get my FAST patch every year. At least I get something for that $10. What is the other $37 for? The web site? I don't think I have ever used it. My $20 *donation* to Matt seems a much better use of my money. And he doesn't even require I pay in order to use the resource. He just requests that we help him keep this service going if we feel moved to do so. (OK, so he says it loudly about 'leventy-'leven times. :-) So go vote on the RPA bylaws change. I did. I did it mostly to see how they decided to do the web stuff for voting. Interesting. The result of the vote itself strikes me as singularly unimportant but that is just me. You might feel it is critical and therefore I encourage you to take it seriously. In short I urge you to exercise your freedom to act or to say "no". > what the hell is a "spunt"? I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't show up in my dictionary. I just assumed it was chosen to sound like an epithet without actually being one. You know, an insult that, when analyzed closely, can't really be said to be an insult but everyone knows what was meant. (Wink wink, nudge nudge.) -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 02:22:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re: Vote
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    PAPPY and DOC, Re this Quanza business and getting duped by a black ex con. The social vommit that spews from the mouths of black activists falls upon the highly fertilized ground found in empty liberal heads occupying today's college classrooms--especially in schools of journalism and social studies. You won't find it in the school of engineering or the mathematics department or computer science classes. It flourishes in the affirmative action classes created for the purpose of bestowing college degrees upon the heads of mediocrity, who then find their way to employment in the high visibility jobs of broadcasting and TV Journalism or Advertising. Meanwhile, China and India each crank out more than 1,000 science and engineering graduates for each such grad. the U S Universities produce. How long will our preeminence last in the fields of Engineering, Science and Medicine? I fear the consequences to our country of the mediocrity produced by affirmative action , white liberalism and an insane preoccupation with diversity by the latter. All of this overlying a Federal government which refuses to guard the country's borders or to enforce its immigration laws. I'm going to enjoy flying my YAK 50 while I still can before the politicians give the airspace away to the ADIZ smoking bureaucrats. Pappy and Doc , I salute you both for the principles you hold and the courage you evidence in your posts. Red Star Pilots will flourish as an organization with such members as yourselves. But I grieve with worry for the future of our country where politicians sell their vote in order to perpetuate their tenure in office. Regards, Cliff Umscheid On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:49:39 -0600 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> writes: Pappy, I'm with you! In the baston of Civil Rights Activism, Alabama, I had never heard of it until a "Black Activitist" decided to celebrate a pagen holiday of questionable origin during the time of the birth of our lord! Kwanzaa! Hum, "though shalt have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3). Guess it will all get sorted out when we take the eternal dirt nap. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Re: Vote In a message dated 12/23/2005 5:00:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpayne@joimail.com writes: no need to archive Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa/Boxing Day/Seasons Greetings to you. Kwanzaa? In all the years I flew to Africa - no one, - no where -EVER -talked about Kwanzaa. NO SUCH HOLIDAY. It was "started" by a black activists former jail bird con-man who's now a professor of "Black Studies" in (guess where) California. The black community is being duped again. Sorry Craig this just bugs me no-end. Pappy


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    Time: 02:39:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ohh yee little Brian spunt and the vote..............
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    Frank, I doubt that anyone but you and I know what "shpunt" means; I haven't heard that word in a long time. Cliff Umscheid On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:30:36 -0600 "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> writes: It seems to me that for an organization like Red Stars we really should have regional representation. For example, if you fail to vote for the current bylaws then RPA will not have regional representation. I think it would then fall on the National coordinators (guys like Drew) to organize EVERYTHING. I doubt they are going to do that for all regions of the country on a continuing basis. Bottom line is few will devote a majority of their time and effort for free so you have little choice but to divide those responsibilities regionally among willing volunteers. All RPA staff are volunteers. So, yes, ohh yee little Brian spunt, the vote does affect RPA's organizational abilities and thus your flying activities as part of an organized group.


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    Time: 02:50:26 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: RPA Commentary
    Brian wrote: > >What personal attacks? If I were going to call Frank Haertlein an idiot >I would have said something to the effect of, "Frank, you are a >blank-minded blathering idiot." I didn't. > Right, of course you didn't. You Boys play nice or Santa will leave metal in your oil screens tonight. Craig Payne


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    Time: 03:01:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy bungee Cord
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    Doc, Re Stretched and frayed bungee cord replacement; Re 3 ft. midget with 6" fingers: Check e bay , see"3' Midget with rigid digit" On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:34:24 -0600 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> writes: Thanks Frank. Will try that on Monday. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Haertlein Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Doc It's been years since I did mine but as I remember you CAN get to the attach point under the instrument panel. Also, I made the bungee cords myself by taking a 3 or 4 inch piece of aluminum tube and inserting the bungee into it. I then crimped the aluminum tube in such a way that the bungee was securely held. Flatten one end of the tube and then drill a hole in it. Voila, you have just created a home made bungee cord end. Do the same with the other end of the bungee cord and you will have a dirt cheap repair for your canopy retract system. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial


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    Time: 04:23:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: kwanzaa
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    Mark, Season's Greetings and MERRY CHRISTMAS, As you suggested, I'm thinking about my own traditions and where they came from. My ancestors kept slaves; so did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and many Senators and Representatives of the day. In fact, Our beloved Thomas Jefferson was into slavery in a big way; he fathered several children by his domestic black slave "Sally". He also authored the phrase "All Men Are Created Equal". He was a true white liberal. But I don't think that he could be described as "intollerant or ignorant", your words as used below. You sling words around pretty loosely when you characterize anyone's post as intollerant or ignorant; you exacerbate that bit of overreaching by presuming to lecture the list on the history of civil rights in this country. Perhaps you consider yourself an authority on the subject and the constitutional provisions affecting that issue. In that case, tell us what provisions of law EFFECT the enactment of such civil rights. Tell us also, if YOU have personally played a part in the "fight to close the racial gap that so many people have fought so hard to close". Now, before you get started in the wrong direction, pay particular attention to the 13th, 14th and 15th amendment to the US constitution. Does that confuse you? FYI, 13 freed the blacks; 14 made them citizens and 15 gave them the right to vote. Did YOU know that? If you're going to lecture us, get a more solid foundation to stand on. Reference to Neshoba County, Miss. and this drivel about the black panthers ain't going to hack it here Happy Quanzaa Mark. The class looks forward to your next lecture. Cliff Umscheid On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:12:59 -0500 "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net> writes: I don't think intolerance and ignorance are in the true spirit of this holiday season. If you'd like to learn more about Kwanzaa then you can go to http://www.tike.com/celeb-kw.htm (or one of the many other websites). You're right, you won't see it celebrated in Africa, because it is not (and never claimed to be) an African holiday. Before you attack another man's traditions you might first think about your own traditions and where they came from. Every tradition has humble beginnings. If you don't know where your traditions originated then you might be surprised to find out. You might also think back to the year 1966 and the civil rights struggles in this country. It was only one year earlier that Congress voted to remove voting restrictions which were designed to make it more difficult for blacks to vote in the south. Two years earlier three civil-rights workers, working to register black voters, were brutally murdered in Neshoba County Mississippi. Etcetera, etcetera. The backlash was seen in the creation of militant groups like the Black Panthers but it was also seen in the creation of Kwanzaa, which emphasizes progress through high self-esteem, family, community, faith and peace. If I were an African American and a celebrator of Kwanzaa and I read what has been said by some of you about my holiday, then it, without doubt, would reinforce my belief that bigotry and intolerance still thrive in this country - thereby reinforcing the racial gap that so many people have fought so hard to close. Try to show a little sensitivity and respect this holiday season - and all year long.


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    Time: 08:36:27 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Canopy bungee Cord
    Cliff, No I said 6 inch fingers..not rigid digit. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff Umscheid Subject: Re: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Doc, Re Stretched and frayed bungee cord replacement; Re 3 ft. midget with 6" fingers: Check e bay , see"3' Midget with rigid digit" On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:34:24 -0600 "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> writes: Thanks Frank. Will try that on Monday. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Haertlein Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Doc It's been years since I did mine but as I remember you CAN get to the attach point under the instrument panel. Also, I made the bungee cords myself by taking a 3 or 4 inch piece of aluminum tube and inserting the bungee into it. I then crimped the aluminum tube in such a way that the bungee was securely held. Flatten one end of the tube and then drill a hole in it. Voila, you have just created a home made bungee cord end. Do the same with the other end of the bungee cord and you will have a dirt cheap repair for your canopy retract system. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Subject: Yak-List: Canopy bungee Cord Gang, Does anyone have a easy way to change out the bungee cord on the canopies of a YAK-52. Mine has streched and become frayed. The RCP portion of the chord and cable attachment looks pretty straight forward.. it is getting to the FCP protion above and behind the instrument panel on the left. That appears to be the hard part. Anybody have a 3 foot midget with 6 inch fingers that can slide up into that space? That is my after Christmas project..along with a few other things to get ready for Waycross! Shane you did order warm front for that weekend, did you not? Doc Roger "Doc" Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com Aint no sound like a Radial




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