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Wed 12/28/05


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 02:03 AM - Fuel reserve (was: So this is "Addiction") (Brian Lloyd)
     2. 02:32 AM - Re: survival of the vested (Brian Lloyd)
     3. 03:57 AM - Brian Lloyd (Drew Blahnick)
     4. 04:07 AM - Re: Piotot-Static Check (Craig Payne)
     5. 04:16 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd (Brian Lloyd)
     6. 05:01 AM - Slave gyro control panel (A. Dennis Savarese)
     7. 05:18 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd (Mark Williamson)
     8. 09:55 AM - Re: CJ6 IFR certification (Jon Boede)
     9. 10:10 AM - fuel burn (Jon Boede)
    10. 03:25 PM - Re: fuel burn (Ernest Martinez)
    11. 06:11 PM - Re: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... (Sarah Tobin)
    12. 08:29 PM - Re: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:03:10 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Fuel reserve (was: So this is "Addiction")
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> David Marsh wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca> > > Val, > > perhaps a good compromise would be to stick with standard tanks but fit a JP > Instruments FS450. Hook it up to your GPS and it'll tell you how much fuel > you need to your next waypoint, and what the reserve will be when you get > there. Very useful when those pesky windsaloft are not what you > expected........ Plus; it's a LOT cheaper than extra tanks. If you don't mind taking a couple of seconds you can do it the old way. (This is the way I did it with my CJ on long cross country flights where I was pushing range to the limit.) Since the calibration of the Chinese fuel gauge can be verified and since it is both very accurate and has very good repeatability, you can verify fuel burn rate in the air. You just keep a flight log of fuel readings and time hacks. From that you calculate enroute burn rate using your trusty E6B. (Yes, I used to carry an E6B in my CJ6A.) Sure it is more work but it is both dirt cheap, i.e. free, as you probably already have an E6B kicking around, and amazingly accurate. By the time you reach half tanks you know how much longer you can fly safely. Also remember: this technique will show up a fuel leak as a greater-than-expected fuel burn. A totalizer like the FS450 will not unless the leak is downstream from the totalizer's fuel-flow sender. -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 02:32:13 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: survival of the vested
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> ggg6@att.net wrote: > If any of You have a CCW, or are planning on qualifying for one, or if > not, here is a web site to look at in regards to one state honoring > another starts CCW permit, as for the states of New York, Wisconson, and > of course California, they have a left wing attitude about a person > protecting oneself. Good places to avoid...... www.packing.com > <http://www.packing.com> It will give you a lot of info... Gary The firearms laws in the US are a real minefield. Make sure you know the laws for *each* *state*. To this end Packing.org is a great resource. And if you are going to carry a firearm in your aircraft for survival purposes you should probably go ahead and get your CCWs just to cover your butt. At last check the two CCWs you want are Utah and Florida. Their CCWs are recognized by a total of 22 states. Also both FL and UT issue non-resident permits and are shall-issue states. If you meet the requirements, e.g. no criminal record, etc., they must issue you a permit. Nevada is also a shall-issue state that issues to non-residents. The only problem with NV is that they don't recognize FL or UT. (Go figure.) OTOH, Nevada is an open-carry state, i.e. you may carry without a permit as long as your weapon is not concealed, so you may not care if you have a CCW there. Be aware that the police in Clark County (Las Vegas) can be annoying if you are carrying. They know it is legal but they hassle you anyway. As a past owner of a California CCW, I can attest that CA is not nearly as unfriendly as one might expect on first blush. The problem is that CA is not a shall-issue state, i.e. whether or not you get issued a CCW is at the discretion of the issuing authority, usually the county sheriff. In my case I had no trouble justifying my need for a CCW in El Dorado county (E of Sacramento to South Lake Tahoe along Hwy 50). Even though it is issued by the local authority, it is a state-wide permit and allows you to carry concealed anywhere in the state. (It will be interesting to see what happens in San Francisco where they have "outlawed" guns but you have a valid permit from the state. Who's law trumps?) Funny thing, SF is one of the places in CA where I feel I actually need to be armed. Also be aware of the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986. It is what protects you when you are transporting a firearm through an unfriendly state. According to the FOPA, if you are in transit from a place where your firearm is legal to a place where your firearm is legal, you are exempt from the local laws while in transit. This means that if you are flying from Virgina to New Hampshire and make a precautionary landing in Massachusetts, MA can't sock you with a felony for possessing a handgun. Prior to FOPA-'86 they could (and did). -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 03:57:39 AM PST US
    From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Brian Lloyd
    Brian I will leave my info on your voicemail again - I can think of nothing better than to meet in person as well, I have family about ten minutes from your home town and was going to propose just this concept. Drew --------------------------------- Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.


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    Time: 04:07:40 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: Piotot-Static Check
    Robert, > > >The local avionics shop says they can't do it because >they don't have an adapter that will fit the CJ pitot >tube. Would like to see how another shop did it. The >airplane is flown actual IFR so I want it done right > After lots of effort with a shop up in Illinois, we decided to do the check at the left wing root, where the lines dump into condensation bottles. After trying this, Joliet Avionics always used that location for their CJ checks. There is a panel just inboard of the wing joint cover, under the leading edge. Craig Payne


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    Time: 04:16:24 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Brian Lloyd
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Drew Blahnick wrote: > Brian I will leave my info on your voicemail again - I can think of > nothing better than to meet in person as well, I have family about ten > minutes from your home town and was going to propose just this concept. Right now I am in Florida. I think that is where you live. I will be in the Miami/Hollywood area for the next couple of days. I may be traveling across the US to Sacramento this coming weekend if all goes as planned (and when does anything ever go as planned). And why is it OK to talk like this in the yak-list but not talk about RPA? -- Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 05:01:20 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Slave gyro control panel
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> If anyone has a serviceable slave gyro control panel from a Yak 52 that they would like to sell, please contact me off-list. dsavarese@elmore.rr.com Thanks Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-2141 Office 334-546-8182 Mobile www.yak-52.com


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    Time: 05:18:03 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Brian Lloyd
    <43B281FE.8040107@lloyd.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Williamson" <yakk52@verizon.net> sounds like someone just needs a hug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Brian Lloyd > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > > Drew Blahnick wrote: >> Brian I will leave my info on your voicemail again - I can think of >> nothing better than to meet in person as well, I have family about ten >> minutes from your home town and was going to propose just this concept. > > Right now I am in Florida. I think that is where you live. I will be in > the Miami/Hollywood area for the next couple of days. I may be traveling > across the US to Sacramento this coming weekend if all goes as planned > (and when does anything ever go as planned). > > And why is it OK to talk like this in the yak-list but not talk about RPA? > > -- > Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr. > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > >


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    Time: 09:55:28 AM PST US
    <20051228030105.31579.qmail@web51506.mail.yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ6 IFR certification
    From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> Bob Wagstaff in Houston has an avionics shop that he uses that's done a bunch of CJs (including mine)... 281-471-1187 > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> > > > Can anybody give me a phone # for an Avionics shop > that has done a Pitot static check/ IFR cert. on a CJ? > The local avionics shop says they can't do it because > they don't have an adapter that will fit the CJ pitot > tube. Would like to see how another shop did it. The > airplane is flown actual IFR so I want it done right. > Thanks, Robert Starnes > > > __________________________________ > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ > >


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    Time: 10:10:55 AM PST US
    Subject: fuel burn
    From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> I use the very conservative approach of looking at the fuel gauge as being calibrated in minutes... 90 liters = 90 minutes. Of course, it tends to be better than that, but at any given glance you can say that you have at least X minutes of fuel left without doing ANY math and the situation tends to improve over time, which is good for those situations where you've become concerned about the fuel. The L-39 is in the same ballpark: 100 Kg of fuel = 10 minutes at non-cruise throttle settings. In cruise it's *much* better than that, more like 7 Kg per minute than 10. Ouch. ;-) Jon


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    Time: 03:25:15 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: fuel burn
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> In the L-29 its 10 liters per minute, 600 literes 60 minutes. Funny how that math works out. Thats at cruise.....double ouch. Ernie On 12/28/05, Jon Boede <jon@email.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> > > I use the very conservative approach of looking at the fuel gauge as being > calibrated in minutes... 90 liters = 90 minutes. Of course, it tends to > be better than that, but at any given glance you can say that you have at > least X minutes of fuel left without doing ANY math and the situation > tends to improve over time, which is good for those situations where > you've become concerned about the fuel. > > The L-39 is in the same ballpark: 100 Kg of fuel = 10 minutes at > non-cruise throttle settings. In cruise it's *much* better than that, > more like 7 Kg per minute than 10. Ouch. ;-) > > Jon > >


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    Time: 06:11:14 PM PST US
    From: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser@hotmail.com>
    Subject: LAPD cop shot in the butt.....
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser@hotmail.com> Name the last time a light grey got a kill? It's been awhile, droning holes in the sky in a barrier or counter-rotating cap is over-rated. They look cool, but seriously...ask any viper driver about their escapades in Korea. Vipers are way more agile and versatile! If you can strap it on a viper, they will do it. Dark Greys kick a#$, don't care what you say about the mud hens, they are great at TST, they are right along side the BONEs, just with less fire power. They were great to control in those "Time Sensitive Targetting" scenarios that were were conducting in Afghanistan. Smash >From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Yak-List: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:06:29 -0600 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > >Hum...in the but huh? >Next subject..the giant aluminum aircraft carrier...the "Mud Chicken"...the >"BEAGLE"....unforturnately the Eagle had to come down from it's lofty air >superiority perch and move mud with the rest of the dual roll fighters. A >pretty good video though... >Doc >Vipers forever! >But do have a fond place in my heart for the "Twin Tail" with a little over >a 100 hrs in the Cadillac before weasling a transition to the Porche. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Frank Haertlein <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: 12/27/2005 12:41:43 AM > > Subject: Yak-List: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" ><yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > > > Last week I shot an LAPD cop in the butt with a 9 MM because he dared to > > post on the YAK-LIST a non aviation related subject. Let me tell you, > > nothin' worse than a LAPD cop shot in the butt. > > > > The jumpin, hollerin', screamin', cursin', and slappin' himself in the > > butt....you should have seen it :) > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 12


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    Time: 08:29:52 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: LAPD cop shot in the butt.....
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Smash, You're preaching to the choir. You strap a Viper on and climb in a Eagle with all the room for A-4 bag behind you. Spuds will beg to differ.But when they gave us the Fox 3, no more post holes and ropa-dopes! Nuf said. Sure is nice to be small and agile with reach out an touch somebody capability. At least we have the YAK/CJ's to fill the void. Doc Vipers forever but if it don't sound round...Why Listen. But I sure do love the smell of JP-4 in the morning. > [Original Message] > From: Sarah Tobin <vorchaser@hotmail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 12/28/2005 8:10:29 PM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser@hotmail.com> > > Name the last time a light grey got a kill? It's been awhile, droning holes > in the sky in a barrier or counter-rotating cap is over-rated. They look > cool, but seriously...ask any viper driver about their escapades in Korea. > Vipers are way more agile and versatile! If you can strap it on a viper, > they will do it. Dark Greys kick a#$, don't care what you say about the > mud hens, they are great at TST, they are right along side the BONEs, just > with less fire power. They were great to control in those "Time Sensitive > Targetting" scenarios that were were conducting in Afghanistan. > > Smash > > > >From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RE: Yak-List: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... > >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:06:29 -0600 > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > > >Hum...in the but huh? > >Next subject..the giant aluminum aircraft carrier...the "Mud Chicken"...the > >"BEAGLE"....unforturnately the Eagle had to come down from it's lofty air > >superiority perch and move mud with the rest of the dual roll fighters. A > >pretty good video though... > >Doc > >Vipers forever! > >But do have a fond place in my heart for the "Twin Tail" with a little over > >a 100 hrs in the Cadillac before weasling a transition to the Porche. > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Frank Haertlein <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > Date: 12/27/2005 12:41:43 AM > > > Subject: Yak-List: LAPD cop shot in the butt..... > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" > ><yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > > > > > Last week I shot an LAPD cop in the butt with a 9 MM because he dared to > > > post on the YAK-LIST a non aviation related subject. Let me tell you, > > > nothin' worse than a LAPD cop shot in the butt. > > > > > > The jumpin, hollerin', screamin', cursin', and slappin' himself in the > > > butt....you should have seen it :) > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > >




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