Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:33 AM - How lucky we are.... (Janet Davidson)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau (Craig Payne)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: How lucky we are.... (Fraser, Gus)
4. 06:37 AM - Re: Aerobatics Invite (Ben Marsh)
5. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau (doug sapp)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 08:19 AM - Re: How lucky we are.... (Roger Kemp)
8. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau (Roger Kemp)
9. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau (DaBear)
10. 12:58 PM - Re: How lucky we are.... (Craig Payne)
11. 01:09 PM - Radium (Ira Saligman)
12. 02:28 PM - Re: Radium (Fraser, Gus)
13. 04:45 PM - About R.T. Foster (ByronMFox@aol.com)
14. 06:22 PM - Re: S&F Hotel form (Steve Dalton)
15. 06:55 PM - Re: Radium (Brian Lloyd)
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Subject: | How lucky we are.... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
I think this should be posted on every forum throughout the aviation world,
not just in the USA. A friend sent us an email today, and incorporated in
it is his description of a recent flight...
"You would certainly find flying more difficult in the UK; we are being
regulated out of existence and recent changes in CAA charges across the
board for GA have upped the price of everything. I paid 1.25 for litre of
avgas at the weekend and a landing fee of 12 at my home airfield and 12.50
at my land-away. If I had filed an IFR flight Plan I would have incurred
navigation charges too. I also pay an annual subscription for a non-person
delivered weather and NOTAM briefing service on the Internet which your FSS
provides at the end of a phone."
Keep up the good work, AOPA, EAA, all the other aviation organisations and
all the type clubs the world over.
Janet
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
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Subject: | Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau |
Would it be unreasonable to assume that some parts of the -152 may be also apply
to existing lines of Yak-52 and/or CJ-6's? I certainly hope so as this means
that suppliers are still in support of these A/C.
Perhaps Doug could get good prices on those M-14X engines out of China?? Someday
in the future when our current supply wears out.
Craig Payne
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Subject: | How lucky we are.... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
Those Far's not looking so shabby now hey, as I said a great place to fly I
agree totally Janet. As we both know unless you have felt the pain of flying
in a country other than the US it is hard to appreciate.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Janet Davidson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: Yak-List: How lucky we are....
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
I think this should be posted on every forum throughout the aviation world,
not just in the USA. A friend sent us an email today, and incorporated in
it is his description of a recent flight...
"You would certainly find flying more difficult in the UK; we are being
regulated out of existence and recent changes in CAA charges across the
board for GA have upped the price of everything. I paid 1.25 for litre of
avgas at the weekend and a landing fee of 12 at my home airfield and 12.50
at my land-away. If I had filed an IFR flight Plan I would have incurred
navigation charges too. I also pay an annual subscription for a non-person
delivered weather and NOTAM briefing service on the Internet which your FSS
provides at the end of a 'phone."
Keep up the good work, AOPA, EAA, all the other aviation organisations and
all the type clubs the world over.
Janet
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
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Subject: | Aerobatics Invite |
Marsh
If you are so inclined, you can contact me off line to discuss some basics
on -52 airbatics.
Ben
Nut Tree Airport
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N7092A@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Aerobatics Invite
For those in the SF Bay area I would luv to practice with someone for the
sportsman who has done it before in a -52
Just send me a note off list.
Mark
N7092A
KPAO
In a message dated 1/12/2006 9:59:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
discrab@earthlink.net writes:
Gus;
Thanks for all that. I'll buddy up with anyone who would like to. Joe
(Felix) Wilkins (took some dual from me) has done a few contests and one in
my Yak-55 (and trophied!) when his -52 was "new asphalted" into his hangar
last year. I'm working on the rest of the Colorado Yak Pac. Tumbled with
Allen Tinnes... he won a trophy (I think) at LAA last year in Primary. Even
if he did cause a little consternation when he left (flew to the boonies) to
get some more practice time after the contest began. A faux pas. We all love
you Allen.
I have been invited to practice formation, I accepted, you guys have cahones
(sp? gonads...you know) the size of watermelons. It scares me to see
airplanes that close when they are on the ground and not tied down...I
respect what you all do, it is real pretty - please try adding the last
dimension - go vertical - have more fun - be safe and get to laugh at me
when I attempt to join a formation.
BTW, you can do even Sportsman @82% :0)
Respectfully, Rick b
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fraser, Gus
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatics Invite
OK folks it is the off season and I am sure that you are all getting your
annual done in preparation for the next flying season.
So what are you going to do next year ?
Why not SERIOUSLY consider taking that great red plane of yours to an
aerobatics contest as either a competitor of volunteer ?
In an attempt to spike your interest I have included this years primary
knowns from IAC
<<primary.pdf>>
Basically, for those that don't yet read Aresti (see
http://www.mini-iac.com/Portals/57ad7180-c5e7-49f5-b282-c6475cdb7ee7/ARESTI-
DICTIONARY.pdf) , it is
1. A one turn spin.
2. A loop.
3. Half Cuban 8.
4. Roll.
5. 90 Deg turn.
All stuff you guys probably do on a Sunday afternoon, why not jump in.
Nobody expects you to be a Rick Basiliere from day one (sorry Rick) the best
bit about a competition is that you first off compete against yourself and
then against others.
And hey there is no requirement to wear a flight suit, (comment for Frank
and Brian :)) ) infact I don't see a reg that stops you from doing it in the
buff if you wish. I know that there are a few aerobatic lurkers on the list
so why not make this the year you make the leap, literally, into aerobatics,
common you know you want to..........
Even if you decide to just see what goes on find out where the contests are
from the iac web site www.iac.org <mip://03529d68/www.iac.org>
Also if you are experienced why not offer to be a "buddy" for someone who
wants to start.
And for those that refuse to fly unless it is in a pack, you can fly to the
contest together (TONGUE PLANTED RIGHT INTO MY CHEEK).
Gus Fraser
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Subject: | Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau |
I'll check it out, but I wouldn't hold my breath, the Chinese think that a
brand new 285 hp is worth 40K (my cost.)
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 6:06 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau
Would it be unreasonable to assume that some parts of the -152 may be also
apply to existing lines of Yak-52 and/or CJ-6's? I certainly hope so as this
means that suppliers are still in support of these A/C.
Perhaps Doug could get good prices on those M-14X engines out of China??
Someday in the future when our current supply wears out.
Craig Payne
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Subject: | Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau |
I guess the answer to the Chinese is, it's only worth 40K if someone is willing
to pay that much for it.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau
I'll check it out, but I wouldn't hold my breath, the Chinese think that a brand
new 285 hp is worth 40K (my cost.)
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 6:06 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau
Would it be unreasonable to assume that some parts of the -152 may be also
apply to existing lines of Yak-52 and/or CJ-6's? I certainly hope so as this means
that suppliers are still in support of these A/C.
Perhaps Doug could get good prices on those M-14X engines out of China?? Someday
in the future when our current supply wears out.
Craig Payne
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Subject: | How lucky we are.... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
That is a problem with us colonist. We are short sighted and tend to forget
how good we have it.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser@gs.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/27/2006 8:35:31 AM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: How lucky we are....
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
>
> Those Far's not looking so shabby now hey, as I said a great place to fly
I
> agree totally Janet. As we both know unless you have felt the pain of
flying
> in a country other than the US it is hard to appreciate.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Janet Davidson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:29 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: How lucky we are....
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
>
> I think this should be posted on every forum throughout the aviation
world,
> not just in the USA. A friend sent us an email today, and incorporated in
> it is his description of a recent flight...
>
> "You would certainly find flying more difficult in the UK; we are being
> regulated out of existence and recent changes in CAA charges across the
> board for GA have upped the price of everything. I paid 1.25 for litre
of
> avgas at the weekend and a landing fee of 12 at my home airfield and
12.50
> at my land-away. If I had filed an IFR flight Plan I would have incurred
> navigation charges too. I also pay an annual subscription for a
non-person
> delivered weather and NOTAM briefing service on the Internet which your
FSS
> provides at the end of a 'phone."
>
> Keep up the good work, AOPA, EAA, all the other aviation organisations and
> all the type clubs the world over.
>
> Janet
>
>
> Ph: 920 232 9238
> email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau |
Danged, for a country that is "Communist" they sure are catching us on this Capitalism
thing!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
Sent: 1/27/2006 9:42:26 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau
I'll check it out, but I wouldn't hold my breath, the Chinese think that a brand
new 285 hp is worth 40K (my cost.)
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 6:06 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau
Would it be unreasonable to assume that some parts of the -152 may be also apply
to existing lines of Yak-52 and/or CJ-6's? I certainly hope so as this means
that suppliers are still in support of these A/C.
Perhaps Doug could get good prices on those M-14X engines out of China?? Someday
in the future when our current supply wears out.
Craig Payne
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Subject: | Re: Announcement from the Yakovlev Design Bureau |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
Craig,
Nothing at all will fit in the CJ from the Yak-52 or Yak-152. The CJ
was designed, from scratch, with no influence from anything from
Yakovlev or anywhere else in Russia.
yea right....
DaBear
Craig Payne wrote:
> Would it be unreasonable to assume that some parts of the -152 may be
> also apply to existing lines of Yak-52 and/or CJ-6's? I certainly hope
> so as this means that suppliers are still in support of these A/C.
> Perhaps Doug could get good prices on those M-14X engines out of
> China?? Someday in the future when our current supply wears out.
>
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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Subject: | Re: How lucky we are.... |
'splains why there are so many Blooming Blokes crowding the airports down here
in FLA. in the "winter".
Craig Payne
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Here is an update on what is behind the radium in the instruments stories in
the news. Pretty scary, but not because of the radium
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html
Ira Saligman
o 610 687 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
<mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com
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Now listen guys Ira and I cant vote, even though we pay taxes (no tax
without rep' and all that) how can you let this BS happen ?
I think I am going to go and throw some tea in the harbor !, Oh and they are
not getting their hands on my airplane, out of my cold dead hands !
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Radium
Here is an update on what is behind the radium in the instruments stories in
the news. Pretty scary, but not because of the radium
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html
<http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html>
Ira Saligman
o 610 687 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
<mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com
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color=#0000ff size=2>Now listen guys Ira and I cant vote, even though we pay
taxes (no tax without rep' and all that) how can you let this BS happen
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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think I am going to go and throw some tea in the harbor
!, Oh and they are not getting their hands on my airplane, out of my cold dead
hands !
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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira
Saligman
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:08 PM
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List:
Radium
Here is an update
on what is behind the radium in the instruments stories in the news.
Pretty scary, but not because of the radium
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">http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html
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Subject: | About R.T. Foster |
"RT Foster's t-shirt art is very good. He lives on the south of me here in
OKC. I use him for my nose art, jacket art and misc paintings. I am going to use
him for the artwork on the CJ-6 when it is painted."
"I think the RPA should let people know he does contract work on jackets,
airplanes, paintings and basically anything. He uses one of my hgrs for airplane
nose art painting."
"I attached a couple of pics of his work on our A-26."
Later
David Huffman
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Subject: | Re: S&F Hotel form |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Dalton" <sdalton@goeaston.net>
Y'all,
What's the plan for S&F, as far as arrival date, practice flights, shows, etc.
Thanks,
Steve
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7464#7464
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Ira Saligman wrote:
> Here is an update on what is behind the radium in the instruments
> stories in the news. Pretty scary, but not because of the radium
>
>
> http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html
So, when does one begin to fight back? I mean *really* fight back?
--
Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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