Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/09/06


Total Messages Posted: 28



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     1. 12:25 AM - Re: Special RPA Vest (YakL1@AOL.COM)
     2. 12:49 AM - Re: 18T spinner (Rob Kent)
     3. 03:21 AM - Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 04:14 AM - Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (Rob Rowe)
     5. 06:11 AM - Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (MajorGoofinoff@aol.com)
     6. 06:16 AM - Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (MajorGoofinoff@aol.com)
     7. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (MajorGoofinoff@aol.com)
     8. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (Kevin Pilling)
     9. 08:23 AM - Re: Special RPA Vest (ByronMFox@AOL.COM)
    10. 09:13 AM - Re: Special RPA Vest (Roger Kemp)
    11. 09:40 AM - Re: Special RPA Vest (Valkyre1)
    12. 11:50 AM - Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego area?## (cgalley)
    13. 11:57 AM - Re: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Dieg... (PeteAbbott@aol.com)
    14. 12:22 PM - Re: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego area?## (JOE HOWSE)
    15. 03:30 PM - Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures (Craig Payne)
    16. 03:31 PM - Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. (A. Dennis Savarese)
    17. 04:33 PM - Valerie...New CJ Owner (Jeff Linebaugh)
    18. 04:54 PM - Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner (Ernest Martinez)
    19. 05:10 PM - Stuck Yak UPDATE. (MajorGoofinoff@aol.com)
    20. 05:40 PM - Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    21. 05:40 PM - Re: Stuck Yak UPDATE. (MajorGoofinoff@aol.com)
    22. 05:41 PM - Re: Stuck Yak UPDATE. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    23. 05:50 PM - Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner (Walter Lannon)
    24. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures (D. E. Robertson)
    25. 06:12 PM - Re: Special RPA Vest (Cliff Umscheid)
    26. 06:59 PM - Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner (Sarah Tobin)
    27. 08:21 PM - Re: Special RPA Vest (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    28. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:25:18 AM PST US
    From: YakL1@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    Blitz: sounds good to me. Sign me up for an XL. John


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    Time: 12:49:45 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Kent" <rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: 18T spinner
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Kent" <rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk> Roger, You say complete, undamaged. Is it used? I could sell a NEW spinner and ship it to the US from the UK for less than $1500. Regards Rob Kent Stores Manager WLAC - Russian Engineering www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk Tel: +44 1628 829 165 Fax: +44 1628 828 961 > > Time: 04:27:16 PM PST US > From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net> > Subject: Yak-List: 18T spinner > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net> > > Hello Listers, > > I have a Yak 18T spinner and backplate (made in Smolensk) that > I do not need. It is complete, undamaged...excellent condition. > $1500 obo Contact me off list only please. > > Roger Baker > > >


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    Time: 03:21:07 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Check the position of the switch in the rear cockpit to make sure it is in the UP position, giving start control to the front cockpit. It's the one next to the flap lights. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com> > > MajorGoofinoff@aol.com wrote: >> I hit the start button, nothing happened. Now > > I am guessing this was supposed to be "No" instead of "Now". > >> Pop of the Electro pneumatic start valve AND no buzz from the Shower of >> sparks. Battery seems good and strong. Checked the ignition switch >> with a multi meter which showed the switch as good, even jumped the >> switch with no luck. Check continuity of the two round 30 AMP fuses in >> the fuse box under the dash. > > Don't rush to change the boost coil. Since the problem affects both the > boost coil and the air solenoid, I would look at the components that are > common to both first. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > >


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    Time: 04:14:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    From: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com> Scott, Presume, as you've got power at the master "battery" breaker switch, that you can hear the battery relay operating & the "battery on" green warning light illuminates in the rear cockpit annunciator panel (far left side, second up from bottom) - correct? As without this battery relay working nothing else will get powered. Believe the switch Dennis alluded to is in fact for magneto isolation (isolates front cockpit) & should not be a factor here ... apologies to Dennis if I'm wrong! The starter push buttons in both cockpits are wired in parallel ... so may be worth trying to start from the rear cockpit in case your front button is u/s. The starter push button(s) operates a relay whose contacts energise both the shower of sparks unit and the air solenoid ... the power to the button / contacts is from the "ignition" switch on the front bank (#3). So worth checking that this 10A breaker switch has 28V ... fyi this also powers the oil dilution switch / solenoid. If nil power at the ignition breaker switch then possibly the 30A DC fuse may have blown ... but this will have taken a lot of other kit out too so easy to check (pitot heat / u/c & flap lights / radio / intercom / PAG1 inverter & G meter!). I can email you a simplified electrical schematic if this helps visualise the layout ... let us know how you get on. Cheers, Rob R G-YAKX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10988#10988


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    Time: 06:11:49 AM PST US
    From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    In a message dated 2/9/2006 12:45:06 AM Central Standard Time, brian-yak@lloyd.com writes: I am guessing this was supposed to be "No" instead of "Now". > Pop of the Electro pneumatic start valve AND no buzz from the Shower of > sparks. Battery seems good and strong. Checked the ignition switch > with a multi meter which showed the switch as good, even jumped the > switch with no luck. Check continuity of the two round 30 AMP fuses in > the fuse box under the dash. Don't rush to change the boost coil. Since the problem affects both the boost coil and the air solenoid, I would look at the components that are common to both first Yes, That is what I am thinking, its an electron problem that affects both the boost coil and the start valve. BUT, does or have anyone seen this problem before. Is there fuse somewhere? Broken wire maybe? I am off to work on it today. Timing of course sucks. I am out of town on Sunday for three weeks of Military duty with my reserve unit. If I can't get it fix today or tomorrow it will have to sit at the out laying field. Tried to get it to start with just the mags and no boost coil. It just kicks backwards when the mags fire. I do have two spare boost coils and some wire with me today. The M14P maintenance manual list two reasons for the motor not to start as a bad boost coil and a bad battery. Now I have had a bad battery before, and it did affect the start valve, but the foot switch on the start valve worked like a champ. I don't think its the battery. However I do have my 24V charger with me today along with my APU plug. I think there is a broken wire or fuse as I said above, so maybe I can wire juice right to the boost coil and get her lit off. Will advise later what I found out. Scott.


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    Time: 06:16:30 AM PST US
    From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    In a message dated 2/9/2006 5:22:09 AM Central Standard Time, dsavarese@elmore.rr.com writes: Check the position of the switch in the rear cockpit to make sure it is in the UP position, giving start control to the front cockpit. It's the one next to the flap lights. Dennis Yep, Done that. Even tried to start from the back. Its dead too. I ask all of you to dig in the books today, while I work on the problem. See if you can find a COMMON point in wiring of the start circuit. I know I have power leaving the ignition switch on the lower right hand side of the cockpit. You know, Battery, Gen, Ignition. I have not put a multi meter on the start buttons yet. Plan to do that today. Also plan to look for broken or loose wires. Scott.


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    Time: 06:25:52 AM PST US
    From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    In a message dated 2/9/2006 6:15:53 AM Central Standard Time, yak-list@robrowe.plus.com writes: The starter push buttons in both cockpits are wired in parallel ... so may be worth trying to start from the rear cockpit in case your front button is u/s. The starter push button(s) operates a relay whose contacts energise both the shower of sparks unit and the air solenoid ... the power to the button / contacts is from the "ignition" switch on the front bank (#3). So worth checking that this 10A breaker switch has 28V ... fyi this also powers the oil dilution switch / solenoid. Where is this magical relay? This fits my problem... Checked the continuity of these two 30A DC fuses and they made a nice tone on the multi meter. Yes, the 10A ignition switch shows power flowing out when turned on. If nil power at the ignition breaker switch then possibly the 30A DC fuse may have blown ... but this will have taken a lot of other kit out too so easy to check (pitot heat / u/c & flap lights / radio / intercom / PAG1 inverter & G meter!). I can email you a simplified electrical schematic if this helps visualise the layout ... let us know how you get on. Cheers, Rob R G-YAKX Rod, Please email the schematic. You can send it to Teal38 or MajorGoofinoff both at AOL.com Thanks Scott.


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    Time: 07:15:44 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    I trust you have actually tested the available battery voltage ? kp ----- Original Message ----- From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. In a message dated 2/9/2006 6:15:53 AM Central Standard Time, yak-list@robrowe.plus.com writes: The starter push buttons in both cockpits are wired in parallel ... so may be worth trying to start from the rear cockpit in case your front button is u/s. The starter push button(s) operates a relay whose contacts energise both the shower of sparks unit and the air solenoid ... the power to the button / contacts is from the "ignition" switch on the front bank (#3). So worth checking that this 10A breaker switch has 28V ... fyi this also powers the oil dilution switch / solenoid.


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    Time: 08:23:33 AM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    John, would you prefer the new or old style RPA wings: These are the new wings recently approved by the Board: And these are the old wings which can also have done: Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox RPA On-line Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Eves Cell 415-307-2405 Days http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx


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    Time: 09:13:41 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    Blitz, Can you send me the picture of the wings as an attachment? My firewall scrubs them when they come thru the list. Not a bad thing but can be a pain sometimes. Doc viperdoc@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 2/9/2006 10:33:21 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Special RPA Vest John, would you prefer the new or old style RPA wings: These are the new wings recently approved by the Board: And these are the old wings which can also have done: Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox RPA On-line Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Eves Cell 415-307-2405 Days http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx


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    Time: 09:40:30 AM PST US
    From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    Please put me down for a medium vest as well Blitz. Thanks, -Valkyre


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    Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego
    area?## Help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Markl Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego area?## Dear List Carl and Jill are folks who were doing rebuilds of Yak aircraft in the San Diego area. The phone number I have no longer works. If someone has a phone number or address for them please let me know. Regards Tony Markl www.tailwheel-and-fabric-spoken-here.com (tailwheel training/fabric work taught/done at your location) Aeronca mailing list Aeronca@westmont.edu http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca


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    Time: 11:57:54 AM PST US
    From: PeteAbbott@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San
    Dieg... Carl and Jill are in AZ in their new facility. # 928 681 4400 Pete N852GC


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    Time: 12:22:15 PM PST US
    From: JOE HOWSE <joeh@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the
    San Diego area?## Jill and Carl are now at 4005 Flightline Drive Kingman Arizona 928 681 4400/4404 jhill@m-14p.com ----- Original Message ----- From: cgalley To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: Yak-List: Fw: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego area?## Help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Markl To: aeronca@westmont.edu Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: [f-AA] #### anyone know Carl and Jill Hayes in the San Diego area?## Dear List Carl and Jill are folks who were doing rebuilds of Yak aircraft in the San Diego area. The phone number I have no longer works. If someone has a phone number or address for them please let me know. Regards Tony Markl www.tailwheel-and-fabric-spoken-here.com (tailwheel training/fabric work taught/done at your location) _______________________________________________ Aeronca mailing list Aeronca@westmont.edu http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca


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    Time: 03:30:09 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures
    Richard Goode wrote: > >The infighting for this has been going on for several years. I can assure people >it will make absolutely zero difference to the supply of spare parts for Yak >aircraft - the practicality is that virtually nothing new for Yak 50, Yak 52 >and Yak 55 has been made for 10 years! > >The new Yak 52s for the Russian Air Force are indeed rebuilt old aircraft - they >themselves are short of spare parts! > and I was under the impression that the Yak-52TW's were new aircraft.! If no parts are manufactured in the FSU for the Yaks, could this mean that Chinese-made parts will find there way into the current fleet of Yaks....thereby morphing the fleet into YakChangs? Ah, sweet justice. Craig Payne


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    Time: 03:31:52 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field.
    If you don't get the "click" when you turn on the battery switch, the big red/orange relay in the gray box inside the inspection panel on the right has probably gone T.U. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Help...Yak Stuck at Out Lying Field. In a message dated 2/9/2006 12:45:06 AM Central Standard Time, brian-yak@lloyd.com writes: I am guessing this was supposed to be "No" instead of "Now". > Pop of the Electro pneumatic start valve AND no buzz from the Shower of > sparks. Battery seems good and strong. Checked the ignition switch > with a multi meter which showed the switch as good, even jumped the > switch with no luck. Check continuity of the two round 30 AMP fuses in > the fuse box under the dash. Don't rush to change the boost coil. Since the problem affects both the boost coil and the air solenoid, I would look at the components that are common to both first Yes, That is what I am thinking, its an electron problem that affects both the boost coil and the start valve. BUT, does or have anyone seen this problem before. Is there fuse somewhere? Broken wire maybe? I am off to work on it today. Timing of course sucks. I am out of town on Sunday for three weeks of Military duty with my reserve unit. If I can't get it fix today or tomorrow it will have to sit at the out laying field. Tried to get it to start with just the mags and no boost coil. It just kicks backwards when the mags fire. I do have two spare boost coils and some wire with me today. The M14P maintenance manual list two reasons for the motor not to start as a bad boost coil and a bad battery. Now I have had a bad battery before, and it did affect the start valve, but the foot switch on the start valve worked like a champ. I don't think its the battery. However I do have my 24V charger with me today along with my APU plug. I think there is a broken wire or fuse as I said above, so maybe I can wire juice right to the boost coil and get her lit off. Will advise later what I found out. Scott.


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    Time: 04:33:56 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Valerie...New CJ Owner
    Fellow Yakers and Chang-ers... Congratulations are in order to Val...the proud new owner and caretaker of, in my humble opinion, one of the nicer CJs in the country. If you will all continue to be as much help to her as you have been to me over the past 7 years, she will have a very rewarding journey. A neat point of interest... when she gets her "Chang" back home, Val will be sharing the skies with Skip Slyfield...who's CJ just happens to be the next airplane down the production line after hers...so after 30-something-years, these machines will be alongside one another again... Congrats to Val...Blue skies and tailwinds! Jeff Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/ CJ-6P N621CJ Memphis, TN


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    Time: 04:54:53 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner
    Well, I'm a bit jealous. That is one fine airplane, wish it were mine. Ernie On 2/9/06, Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Fellow Yakers and Chang-ers... > > Congratulations are in order to Val...the proud new owner and > caretaker of, in my humble opinion, one of the nicer CJs in the country. If > you will all continue to be as much help to her as you have been to me over > the past 7 years, she will have a very rewarding journey. > > A neat point of interest... when she gets her "Chang" back home, Val will > be sharing the skies with Skip Slyfield...who's CJ just happens to be the > next airplane down the production line after hers...so after > 30-something-years, these machines will be alongside one another again... > > Congrats to Val...Blue skies and tailwinds! > > Jeff > > Jeff Linebaugh > jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net > *http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/* > *CJ-6P N621CJ* > *Memphis, TN* > <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=3D409&lang=3D9>


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    Time: 05:10:55 PM PST US
    From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
    Subject: Stuck Yak UPDATE.
    OK, Here are the details so far. YAK is HOME.


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    Time: 05:40:09 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner
    JEFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU GAVE YOUR BEAUTIFUL CJ-6A TO A WOMAN. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SOOOOOOO! YES I KNOW SHE'S A TALL NORDIC GODESS, BUT MAN DON'T YOU GOT NO BALLS!!!!!!!!!! NOW WHEN I DO THAT LAG ROLL TO THAT AIRPLANE'S 6 O'CLOCK (remember that one Bill Mills?) I MUST NOT WAVER, I WILL PULL THE TRIGER!!!! WELL WITH SLY AROUND, SHE'LL BEABLE TO STICK HER NORDIC SPEAR INTO HIS TENDER BUT. (She out ranked him in the Navy, right?) God help me. I do love it so. Pappy Fellow Yakers and Chang-ers... Congratulations are in order to Val...the proud new owner and caretaker of, in my humble opinion, one of the nicer CJs in the country. If you will all continue to be as much help to her as you have been to me over the past 7 years, she will have a very rewarding journey. A neat point of interest... when she gets her "Chang" back home, Val will be sharing the skies with Skip Slyfield...who's CJ just happens to be the next airplane down the production line after hers...so after 30-something-years, these machines will be alongside one another again... Congrats to Val...Blue skies and tailwinds! Jeff Jeff Linebaugh _jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net_ (mailto:jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net) _http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/_ (http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/) CJ-6P N621CJ Memphis, TN


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    Time: 05:40:09 PM PST US
    From: MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Stuck Yak UPDATE.
    OK, its official I hate AOL> Had a nice email and AOL screwed it up. Scott. I checked both start switched today and found that each had power leaving the button when pressed. I have to assume from this point on that it is the TKE 42 relay in the station 6 relay box. I suppose it might be a broken wire just as it enter or exits the relay. The combination of no power to the air solenoid and the shower of sparks really narrows it down. I did get my Yak home today. :-) I took an extra booster coil and wired it up with a pig tail so as to attach it to a 24 V battery charger and connected it to the lead going to the Mag. Tie wrapped it in place and ran the pig tail out the access door on the right side. Hit the foot trigger on the air valve and my buddy flipped on the battery charger and bam!!! She lit right off. I think I will keep that booster coil in a box ready to mail at a moments notice. Scott. AKA Major Gooofinoff Yak52 DFW area. PS. Email still welcome if you have any inputs. I will be out of town for several weeks with my Air Force reserve unit later this weekend. Yak is resting on its perch.


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    Time: 05:41:19 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Stuck Yak UPDATE.
    Hmmmmmmmmmm. Me thinks he found a switch? OK, Here are the details so far. YAK is HOME.


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    Time: 05:50:57 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner
    Congratulations Val. How about a photo of your new mount when you have a chance? Cheers; Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Linebaugh To: yak-list@matronics. com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Yak-List: Valerie...New CJ Owner Fellow Yakers and Chang-ers... Congratulations are in order to Val...the proud new owner and caretaker of, in my humble opinion, one of the nicer CJs in the country. If you will all continue to be as much help to her as you have been to me over the past 7 years, she will have a very rewarding journey. A neat point of interest... when she gets her "Chang" back home, Val will be sharing the skies with Skip Slyfield...who's CJ just happens to be the next airplane down the production line after hers...so after 30-something-years, these machines will be alongside one another again... Congrats to Val...Blue skies and tailwinds! Jeff Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/ CJ-6P N621CJ Memphis, TN


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    Time: 05:57:14 PM PST US
    From: "D. E. Robertson" <dougr@yak-18t.com>
    Subject: Re: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "D. E. Robertson" <dougr@yak-18t.com> Although the 52TWs are "new" aircraft, I imagine (not too hard) that there are a few NOS parts in them. Also, I don't think they are "sanctioned" in the same way they were during the "other" time. The engines, my understanding, are in no way sanctioned by the original manufacturer. As for the "justice" of a morphing of the Yaks into Yakchangs, this is really wacky. Great what a little bit of rationalization and some morphing of their own can do to one's outlook - LOL!


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    Time: 06:12:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    From: Cliff Umscheid <netmaster15@juno.com>
    BLITZ; Please accept this as my confirmation of previously telephoned order for that special RPA vest in size LARGE ; thanks.Let me know how you want to handle payment --either telephone credit card or mailed check . Your preference. BEST! Cliff Umscheid , 386-345-1861 On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:48:52 -0600 "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> writes: Byron, I'll take two; one large and one small. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: ByronMFox@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Yak-List: Special RPA Vest In November, I think, I asked if there were those among you who would be interested in a Polartec type fleece vest with RPA wings embroidered on the left breast. I finally have a supplier with a vest I like. Black nylon outer shell to cut the wind with a black fleece lining and a collar that zips to the top. The price will be $40 -- $42. Please get back to me if you're still interested so I can have a sense of how many to order. Mention the size you want. Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox RPA On-line Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Eves Cell 415-307-2405 Days http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx


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    Time: 06:59:55 PM PST US
    From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Valerie...New CJ Owner
    Well, I am just thankful I am not the only sexy b*&$h to be driving a round motor and putting you boys in your place! :) Smash ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Linebaugh To: yak-list@matronics. com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Yak-List: Valerie...New CJ Owner Fellow Yakers and Chang-ers... Congratulations are in order to Val...the proud new owner and caretaker of, in my humble opinion, one of the nicer CJs in the country. If you will all continue to be as much help to her as you have been to me over the past 7 years, she will have a very rewarding journey. A neat point of interest... when she gets her "Chang" back home, Val will be sharing the skies with Skip Slyfield...who's CJ just happens to be the next airplane down the production line after hers...so after 30-something-years, these machines will be alongside one another again... Congrats to Val...Blue skies and tailwinds! 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    Time: 08:21:25 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Special RPA Vest
    Tell which wings you'd prefer, Val. These are the old ones: And these are the new ones recently adopted by the Board. Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox RPA On-line Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Eves Cell 415-307-2405 Days http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx


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    Time: 08:25:00 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures
    Not that would mean they are Chiyaks! doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne Sent: 2/9/2006 5:37:29 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Russian Aircraft Manufactures Richard Goode wrote: > >The infighting for this has been going on for several years. I can assure people >it will make absolutely zero difference to the supply of spare parts for Yak >aircraft - the practicality is that virtually nothing new for Yak 50, Yak 52 >and Yak 55 has been made for 10 years! > >The new Yak 52s for the Russian Air Force are indeed rebuilt old aircraft - they >themselves are short of spare parts! > and I was under the impression that the Yak-52TW's were new aircraft.! If no parts are manufactured in the FSU for the Yaks, could this mean that Chinese-made parts will find there way into the current fleet of Yaks....thereby morphing the fleet into YakChangs? Ah, sweet justice. Craig Payne




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