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1. 05:30 AM - Venting CJ rear inspection panels (Kelley Monroe)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Flight Suits (Fraser, Gus)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: Venting CJ rear inspection panels (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 09:26 AM - CJ Weight and Balance calculator (Jim Shanks)
5. 09:35 AM - Re: Yak-52 (st.ellison@comcast.net)
6. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52 (Jerome van der Schaar)
7. 12:29 PM - Re: CJ Weight and Balance calculator (Brian Lloyd)
8. 01:06 PM - Re: CJ Weight and Balance calculator (Fraser, Gus)
9. 01:24 PM - Re: CJ Weight and Balance calculator (DaBear)
10. 02:26 PM - Wooden Yak models (Tim Gagnon)
11. 02:35 PM - Helmet questions (so much to choose from) (Ira Saligman)
12. 04:42 PM - Re: Helmet questions (so much to choose from) (Tim Gagnon)
13. 05:57 PM - Re: Flight suits, again..... (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
14. 06:12 PM - 1985 Yak 50 for sale (Francis Butler)
15. 06:34 PM - Re: compensation (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
16. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Helmet questions (so much to choose from) (doug sapp)
17. 07:35 PM - Avionics Installation (Shinden33)
18. 09:15 PM - Re: Flight suits, again..... (Brian Lloyd)
19. 09:22 PM - Re: Avionics Installation (Brian Lloyd)
20. 10:05 PM - Re: Yak 52 Fabric (Mike Bell)
21. 11:48 PM - Re: Flight suits, again..... (fish@aviation-tech.com)
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| Subject: | Venting CJ rear inspection panels |
I removed the inspection panels at the rear of my CJ to have vents cut in them.
After 2 months the company that was to do this said the material is to hard
and will rip. Is anyone doing this I can send them to? Thanks Kelley
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
Ashley,
The site is http://www.design500.com they are not on the site but if you
ring and ask they will help you.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Battles
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Flight Suits
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ashley Battles"
--> <pilotashley@hotmail.com>
I need to know about these undergarments for ladies. Can we find them on
his website?
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| Subject: | Re: Venting CJ rear inspection panels |
Kelly,
Get a hold of Craig Payne. He has them all made up and you just need to
install them. He is always lurking on this list sometime. But his number
813-764-9493.
I'll be putting them on my airplane but after I've run some more CO test
flights and collect data, with the mods I've made.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
I removed the inspection panels at the rear of my CJ to have vents cut in
them. After 2 months the company that was to do this said the material is to
hard and will rip. Is anyone doing this I can send them to? Thanks Kelley
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| Subject: | CJ Weight and Balance calculator |
There were some posts a while back of those talking about creating a W&B calculator
for the CJ using Excel or whatever. Has anyone actually created one?
Mucho appreciado.
Jim Shanks
shankeroid@comcast.net
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N62814 is for sale.
see attached
N62814 is for sale.
see attached
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You might want to put it at http://www.yakkes.com/webstuff.yaksales.php , at
the bottom you can add your Yak for free. Site is visited 30.000 times a
month by Yakfreaks.
Good luck,
Jerome
-------Original Message-------
From: st.ellison@comcast.net
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52
N62814 is for sale.
see attached
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Weight and Balance calculator |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Jim Shanks wrote:
> There were some posts a while back of those talking about creating a
> W&B calculator for the CJ using Excel or whatever. Has anyone actually
> created one?
I just made one for someone after weighing their airplane. It is simple
and crude but it works. I think someone had done a really nice one and
posted it a couple years back.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
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| Subject: | CJ Weight and Balance calculator |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
I wrote one years ago for Mark J which I think is available from Dennis' web
site. Basically it will work for the CJ with a bit of tweaking. If nobody
has tweaked it or you can't get one from somewhere else and you really
really need it then I could do a CJ one huhhhhhh!
No but seriously if someone can promise to give me the arms mac figures
effects of the gear swing etc etc I will do one for the CJ crowd.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Weight and Balance calculator
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Jim Shanks wrote:
> There were some posts a while back of those talking about creating
> a W&B calculator for the CJ using Excel or whatever. Has anyone
> actually created one?
I just made one for someone after weighing their airplane. It is simple and
crude but it works. I think someone had done a really nice one and posted it
a couple years back.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Weight and Balance calculator |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
I did mine after upgrading the engine with the M14P. If people want it,
email me and I'll send it out. I asked for input from the list on what
stations people are using. I did find some difference between people's
stations, however most were close. I ended up using my own
measurements and that was the same a few of the inputs from people on
the list.
DaBear
BTW, I'm not getting all the email from the yak list as it is getting
stopped by my spam filter on the email provider. If you don't see a
response from me from a list post, I'm either on the road for the week
(be back on the weekends) or the spam filter ate it.
Fraser, Gus wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
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>I wrote one years ago for Mark J which I think is available from Dennis' web
>site. Basically it will work for the CJ with a bit of tweaking. If nobody
>has tweaked it or you can't get one from somewhere else and you really
>really need it then I could do a CJ one huhhhhhh!
>
>No but seriously if someone can promise to give me the arms mac figures
>effects of the gear swing etc etc I will do one for the CJ crowd.
>
>Gus
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:10 PM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Weight and Balance calculator
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>Jim Shanks wrote:
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>> There were some posts a while back of those talking about creating
>>a W&B calculator for the CJ using Excel or whatever. Has anyone
>>actually created one?
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>I just made one for someone after weighing their airplane. It is simple and
>crude but it works. I think someone had done a really nice one and posted it
>a couple years back.
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>Brian Lloyd
>brian-yak@lloyd.com
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| Subject: | Wooden Yak models |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
I am finally seeing some light at the end of the tunnel with some models I ordered.
It has been almost 6ix months since I ordered them and am looking at another
sic weeks before I actually get them.
If you are interested in having a custom model done, I will send you the info.
BE WARNED!! BE PATIENT! The guy is not exactly speedy. I will post some pics of
the final products when I get them and will also provide some opinion on the
work.
Until then...
http://community.webshots.com/user/junglejett
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12467#12467
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| Subject: | Helmet questions (so much to choose from) |
I am looking to buy a helmet, probably the Gentex HGU-55.
If you have
1) helmet knowledge
2) a minute to answer a few basic questions:
please call or send me your phone number.
Ira Saligman
o 610 687 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
<mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com
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| Subject: | Re: Helmet questions (so much to choose from) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
The HGU-55P serves two purposes;
1.) To support your comm gear
2.) To support your O2 gear
It offes VERY little protection. I think most that have worn the helmet operationally
will agree. If your looking for something that will offer some genuine
protection, look elsewhere.
If you have to have the helmet, my recommendation would be to get a better lining
and an adjustable nape strap. The current issue helmets can adjust the nape
from the front via the chin strap. It helps secure the helmet to the head better
than the old way. I think the fighter folks were behind the change and us
airlifters like it to.
The folks at flight suits in California should be able to help you.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12492#12492
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| Subject: | Flight suits, again..... |
Smash, you really don't want to open this discussion. Trust me. But.. you
kind of already did. Oh well.... My fault, not yours.
Ok.
This whole thing really boils down to a very simple fact, and it has very
little .. if anything... to do with safety. It instead is an issue where
one group of people is trying to tell another group of people what to do.
One group of people thinks that they have the right to do this.
Another group of people do not agree with THAT assumption AT ALL.
It is.... in the end.... as simple as that.
As far as what you wear while flying your personal aircraft... well, that is
your business and I will defend to the death your right to make those
decisions.
I also happen to believe that what I wear while flying MY aircraft is simply
none of your business. I do not mean to sound impolite, just to the point.
No matter how good OR bad your logic/arguments are .... it should always be
my choice, and I should not have to justify that choice to you or anyone
else with the possible exception of the FAA.
Regards,
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sarah Tobin
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Flight suits, again.....
I disagree with you guys that are saying that a flt suit is only good for
picking up chicks. Having worn a flight suit for the past 9 years, I have
come to know them quite well. Doc can probably back me up on this one...a
viper dude had his giblets roasted because he wore silk boxers on a flight
that ended poorly, but the rest of his body was fine. Point is, that it
isn't fire *proof*, but it is fire retardant. Had he been wearing cotton
drawers the story would be different.
I always wear cotton everything, and I mean everything when I fly my plane
OR when I am on any airliner. Why not give you the added chance of
survival? I don't wear a flt suit to acro competitions cuz I can't bring
myself to look like a dork wearing a flt suit when I am off duty....but I
think in an org like RPA that it isn't a bad idea. Go thru the smoke course
in OKC if you get a chance. They give you a gnd course on what happens in a
survivable airline crash and how the plastic melts on you. They show you
what happens to ladies that wear nylons on flights and dudes in polyester
pants...ick. Then they fill the cabin with 'chocolate smoke' and let you
see the limited vis in such a situation. Anyway, I go on, but the point
is...never compromise on safety! :)
Smash
_____
Use
<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/pmall2/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo
.com> Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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| Subject: | 1985 Yak 50 for sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Francis Butler" <francis_butler@msn.com>
I have posted information, photo's and video clips of my 1985 Yak 50 that is
for sale. Hopefully the following link works. Let me know if it doesn't, I
am new to this technogeek stuff.
Please contact me off list at francis_butler@msn.com or my hanger number is
701 239-4532 if you need any further information.
http://homepage.mac.com/francisbutler/
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Concur.... my Flight Doc here locally told me that the only real difference
between 2nd and 3rd was the eye test.
I did the same thing. Got some glasses that allowed me to have 20/10
distance vision.... and passed the 2nd.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: compensation
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
doug sapp wrote:
> This is the point I attempted to make over a year ago, and it fell on
> deaf ears then and I don't expect much more now.
>
> As us boomers get older and loose we our ability to pass a second class
> medical and are forced to accept a third class we will all find
> ourselves in violation of the regs. The result will be that less and
> less of the "interesting" aircraft will be attending the airshows and
> fly ins.
Well, in spite of their official mandate, the FAA is not in the habit of
promoting aviation. You probably aren't going to win this one with them.
If someone gives you something for flying in, you are receiving
compensation. Compensation requires a commercial ticket and a 2nd-class
medical.
So how do you beat the system? One way seems to me to have someone else
act as PIC of your aircraft to get it there. They don't get anything
except a ride to the event. You, as owner and not PIC, can accept the
"compensation". Since you did not act as pilot in command, you are not
exercising the privileges of a commercial ticket. This certainly stomps
all over the spirit of the law while adhering to the letter. This
strikes me as a good thing to do with stupid rules and laws.
This last time I took my flight physical I needed three different sets
of glasses to pass the vision test (far, intermediate, and near) but I
managed to pass. That is the only thing that gives me trouble. What
gives you trouble that you can pass a 3rd-class but not a 2nd-class?
Perhaps we can find a way to deal with the problem and let you get a 2nd
class medical again.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
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| Subject: | Re: Helmet questions (so much to choose from) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Tim,
I really don't have a need for the O2 mask, personally I think it's a bit
over the top for a Chang driver, but that's just me. What I do want is a
helmet that is light weight and will offer good protection in case of a
accident. I also would rather not have to install a Malcolm hood in order
to wear it. What is out there for me to choose from?
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Helmet questions (so much to choose from)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
The HGU-55P serves two purposes;
1.) To support your comm gear
2.) To support your O2 gear
It offes VERY little protection. I think most that have worn the helmet
operationally will agree. If your looking for something that will offer some
genuine protection, look elsewhere.
If you have to have the helmet, my recommendation would be to get a better
lining and an adjustable nape strap. The current issue helmets can adjust
the nape from the front via the chin strap. It helps secure the helmet to
the head better than the old way. I think the fighter folks were behind the
change and us airlifters like it to.
The folks at flight suits in California should be able to help you.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12492#12492
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| Subject: | Avionics Installation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
Can anyone recommend a good avionics shop in So Cal, NV, AZ area. I am
looking to make a few minor additions to my '52
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits, again..... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Bitterlich GS11 Mark G wrote:
> I also happen to believe that what I wear while flying MY aircraft is
> simply none of your business. I do not mean to sound impolite, just to
> the point.
>
> No matter how good OR bad your logic/arguments are .... it should always
> be my choice, and I should not have to justify that choice to you or
> anyone else with the possible exception of the FAA.
Ah, Mark, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. I would add to it
a bit more of a general statement which I have been thinking about for
some time. Consider it to be somewhat of a libertarian manifesto as
applied to flying in general and RPA specifically.
1. You have the right to expect me to operate my aircraft in a manner
that does nothing to endanger you or affect your ability to fly your own
aircraft.
For example, you have the right to insist that I be qualified to fly on
your wing before you let me fly on your wing.
2. You do not have the right to tell me what to wear, what safety
equipment to use, what equipment to install in my aircraft, or even
insist that I meet FAA requirements. The latter is between me and the FAA.
If I want to burn in my cockpit should there be a fire or not wear a
parachute during formation flight, that is my right to choose. It does
NOT affect your ability to fly your own airplane.
I think talking about safety equipment and how best to protect oneself
is a GREAT use for the mailing list and for RPA. Requiring it at events
is *NOT*!
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Installation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Shinden33 wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> Can anyone recommend a good avionics shop in So Cal, NV, AZ area. I am
> looking to make a few minor additions to my '52
I recommend Pacific Coast Radio at Cable Airport (CCB). The proprietor
is David George. The phone number is (909) 920-5807. Dave does very good
work. He got my complex avionics stack working after three other shops
failed to solve the problems.
The only caveat is that if you leave the choice how to implement
something without giving him explicit instructions, you might not get
exactly what you want. We are talking about simple things like where to
locate the jack for the music input but little things can make a difference.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Fabric |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
Thanks to all for the on and off-line fabric advice. The "dollar" patches with
a stitch over to the other side of the rudder seems to be a good fix for paint
cracking. FWIW I recently attended the EAA weekend fabric class and asked the
very experienced instructor if he had any suggestions and his was the same. The
triangle patch sounds like a good idea too. Frank, the rivets instead of rib-stitching
has a lot of appeal, and it's used on some certified aircraft. Do
they stick up above the rib? I would hate to have something on a Yak-52 that's
not totally flush with the airflow....
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits, again..... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com
Brian,
I would agree with you, except in our litigious society your family would sue
after your death. Their argument would be that we failed to protect you, causing
them harm!
I had a meeting with my insurance agent yesterday, and he said that my insurance
rates were going up, because the cost of defending me was going up. He also
said that I could no longer get some types of insurance.
About 20 years ago there was a debate in California over a motorcycle helmet
law. The most outspoken person (Gary Buesy), then had a motorcycle accident
and was in a coma. The next time the law was put to a vote it passed. So who
would like to be the first person roasted alive, to pass this law!
In military flying we have a saying that the Warnings are written in blood (others
have died so we dont have to make the same mistake).
Fly Safe
John Fischer
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>Bitterlich GS11 Mark G wrote:
>
>> I also happen to believe that what I wear while flying MY aircraft is
>> simply none of your business. I do not mean to sound impolite, just to
>> the point.
>>
>> No matter how good OR bad your logic/arguments are .... it should always
>> be my choice, and I should not have to justify that choice to you or
>> anyone else with the possible exception of the FAA.
>
>Ah, Mark, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. I would add to it
>a bit more of a general statement which I have been thinking about for
>some time. Consider it to be somewhat of a libertarian manifesto as
>applied to flying in general and RPA specifically.
>
>1. You have the right to expect me to operate my aircraft in a manner
>that does nothing to endanger you or affect your ability to fly your own
>aircraft.
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>For example, you have the right to insist that I be qualified to fly on
>your wing before you let me fly on your wing.
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>2. You do not have the right to tell me what to wear, what safety
>equipment to use, what equipment to install in my aircraft, or even
>insist that I meet FAA requirements. The latter is between me and the FAA.
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>If I want to burn in my cockpit should there be a fire or not wear a
>parachute during formation flight, that is my right to choose. It does
>NOT affect your ability to fly your own airplane.
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>I think talking about safety equipment and how best to protect oneself
>is a GREAT use for the mailing list and for RPA. Requiring it at events
>is *NOT*!
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>--
>Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
>brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
>+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
>I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
>- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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