Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:08 AM - Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) (Kevin Pilling)
2. 07:17 AM - Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) (Brian Lloyd)
3. 07:29 AM - a new subject (Michael Bolton)
4. 08:07 AM - Re: a new subject (Ben Marsh)
5. 08:12 AM - Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) (Tim Gagnon)
6. 09:41 AM - Re: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was: Flight Suits again...) (John W. Hilterman Jr.)
7. 09:47 AM - Flight Suits and clinics (Drew Blahnick)
8. 09:54 AM - Re: Flight Suits and clinics (Ben Marsh)
9. 12:08 PM - Re: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was: Flight Suits again...) (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
10. 12:22 PM - Re: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was: Flight Suits again...) (Brian Lloyd)
11. 01:00 PM - Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 (Scooter)
12. 01:40 PM - Re: CJ vent filters (Dave Laird)
13. 02:59 PM - YAK user fees (Frank Haertlein)
14. 04:21 PM - FW: Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) (Craig Craft)
15. 05:22 PM - Re: FW: Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) (Roger Kemp)
16. 06:20 PM - Re: Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 (PHCarter@AOL.COM)
17. 08:26 PM - Re: Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 (Roger Kemp)
18. 08:40 PM - Re: Flight Suits and clinics (Roger Kemp)
19. 09:30 PM - It's about ... (Brian Lloyd)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
How well and acerbically this post wraps several subjects up !
kp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:58 AM
Subject: Yak-List: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
> (Three years ago we were having this same discussion. I decided to take
> another slant on it. Some of you might remember. I know a number of you
> commented that you liked the message so I thought I would post it again
> to raise the humor coefficient of the list a bit.
>
> Do not archive)
>
>
> You know, we have been approaching the decision-making process all
> wrong. When it comes to selecting parachutes, flight wear, oil, etc.,
> we have been talking like these are technical decisions. The problem
> is, they aren't! These are psychological decisions based on the macho
> coolness factor (MCF) which has become totally ignored in the decision
> ma
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Kevin Pilling wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
>
> How well and acerbically this post wraps several subjects up !
Thank you Kevin. Sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself to
maintain perspective.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Wow you sure get a full mailbox when you don't check emails for a couple of days
and the yaklist is on the subject of flightsuits. So I thought I would introduce
a new subject.
I heard a few days ago that "Heat's Not Gay"!!
"Mighty"
If it doesn't sound round, "WHY LOOK"?
Michael J. Bolton, Vice President
Young Forest Products, Inc.
(O)803.438.4259
(C)803.427.0604
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Here here.
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bolton
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: Yak-List: a new subject
Wow you sure get a full mailbox when you don't check emails for a couple of
days and the yaklist is on the subject of flightsuits. So I thought I would
introduce a new subject.
I heard a few days ago that "Heat's Not Gay"!!
"Mighty"
If it doesn't sound round, "WHY LOOK"?
Michael J. Bolton, Vice President
Young Forest Products, Inc.
(O)803.438.4259
(C)803.427.0604
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Brian,
Are you getting paid for each post you put on here? If so, you could buy all of
the FSU!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12881#12881
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Suits again...)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Hilterman Jr." <johnhilterman1@cox.net>
Gee, why don't we just blow off that requirement to have a medical in order
to fly. Who does the FAA think they are to uphold some rules I don't like.
Ugh....me know likem piss in bottle every year to fly...me takem club and go
home.
Grow up....you don't like the flight suit requirement then take your club
and go home.
By the way, battle damage or not, you've got 30+ gallons of 100LL about six
inches from your feet, inside the cockpit environment. If that doesn't make
you a little nervous if you ever have to execute a forced landing then
you've got no pulse.
Hitman out
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was: Yak-List:
Flight Suits again...)
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Drew Blahnick wrote:
That got your attention, didn't it. Let's see ...
> in formation training/display sorties at
> RPA formation training events/clinics it does require a flight suit by
> the flight members.
So, if Bob Fong (like FNG) shows up at an event with his newly acquired
CJ6A or Yak-52, it is the policy of RPA to refuse to provide training if
Mr. FNG doesn't own and wear a flight suit? Well gosh oh gee this sure
looks good. Let's make sure we piss Bob off and send him home (as you
guys did to a friend of mine at ARS a couple of years back) where he
will practice formation with the other guys who have had no training.
Yup, we are really fostering safety and serving the needs of the pilot
community.
As a dues-paying member of the RPA I would like to say that this sucks.
If it were my RPA we would do everything we could to provide training
and support to help people operate their aircraft as safely as possible
regardless of their age, sex, race, or choice of outerwear. Forcing
people to wear a flight suit against their will or refusing to provide
needed training is just f-----g stupid.
> This policy is upheld by our flight leads at
> events/clinics, thats many of you, as they have final say who they have
> in their flights.
I don't care who upholds it. What gives a small group the right to tell
the rest of us what to do when it in no way affects them?
> Thats a pretty small window for that policy and when
> I head to events like Waycross this year I publicly ask the flight
> members about their support of this event policy,
Let's see, I am sure we can ask around and find people to uphold just
about any policy we want. You know, maybe we should refuse to allow
women to participate as it might cramp the style of The Guys. Man, I
could come up with some real crap here but I think that the rest get my
drift.
> the feedback is
> supportive as the right thing to do. Beyond that, the collective groups
> discussions on the proven safety benefits of wearing a flight suit in
> good condition during our flying is a healthy one.
The discussion of the relative merits of various methods to prevent
burns in the cockpit is a good one. I suspect it is even more important
when in combat and the aircraft sustains battle damage. Oh wait, none of
us fly our CJ6As or Yak-52s in combat. Darn. There goes that reason to
wear a flight suit.
So we only provide training to people who wear flight suits. Yeah, that
is a great, inclusive policy. We do it because the inner cabal has
decided, "ugh, flight suit good."
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Flight Suits and clinics |
Darn, was working when Jim Goolsby called about Tamiami airshow and told me about
this rant on this list,
so guys,
do whatever you want to do in life, thats the bottom line, enjoy yourselves,
treat everyone with respect, be nice to your neighbor, he/she might be the one
giving you CPR one day, don't kick the dog, it wasn't his fault - kick the cat,
it's always their fault anyways, be a positive element on any team your on,
pitch in when society calls, fly safe, ....thats my personal opinion.
if you're an rpa member, the newsletter team asked me to delay the e-vote for
the new board until after our commercial distributer mails you your newsletter
next week (this thing is bigger than anything you've seen from an aviation association,
at least in pages...), so we did of course, but when the vote does
take place - vote - and then tell that regional board member who wins what you
think of the flight suit policy and you would like it changed for XYZ reasons
that impact your involvement in the RPA personally. That's what I would do.
In fact, if you read the new by-laws the rpa members reading this voted for,
and I posted on the new web site under "governance", the policy vote only includes
the board now - the president (who now can't hold a bod and national officer
hat) only breaks a tie vote as chairman. If a majority of the membership
thought it needed to be changed, I suspect it could be changed. Thats my personal
opinion.
And if you want to come to a clinic naked, all I can say is, like at Waycross,
we invited city officials to arrange a scheduled time to bring out local school
kids for a chance to see the aircraft and pilots (think inspiration for future
pilots, a career aspiration that tends to stay clear of drug abuse/crime
and leans towards staying in school and getting an education - although most pilots
can't spell worth a bleep ;). So I would think being naked at one of these
events as one of you asked to do, would be a negative gesture to these youngsters
don't you think ;)
Have fun guys, thanks to those who have emailed in about the new web and patience
with the code team - I had the WB calculator uploaded to training docs under
flight training, as we do with all the good stuff sent in (checklists, schematics,
etc.). If you can't access areas (cant log in) and were a member some
time ago, the code team last night removed members who were past due after 1
aug 2005, you can renew in seconds in the store, this will also get the newsletter
to you next week. As always, Michael and Deon will respond asap if you have
a question to admin@flyredstar.org
Heading to vegas on my first trip back on the 767 tonight, perhaps commercial
aviation is soon to turn the corner in this country...
Drew
---------------------------------
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Flight Suits and clinics |
Drew, you are right about the cats. Please pardon my asking, when should we
stop beating our wives?
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:47 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Flight Suits and clinics
Darn, was working when Jim Goolsby called about Tamiami airshow and told me
about this rant on this list,
so guys,
do whatever you want to do in life, thats the bottom line, enjoy yourselves,
treat everyone with respect, be nice to your neighbor, he/she might be the
one giving you CPR one day, don't kick the dog, it wasn't his fault - kick
the cat, it's always their fault anyways, be a positive element on any team
your on, pitch in when society calls, fly safe, ....thats my personal
opinion.
if you're an rpa member, the newsletter team asked me to delay the e-vote
for the new board until after our commercial distributer mails you your
newsletter next week (this thing is bigger than anything you've seen from an
aviation association, at least in pages...), so we did of course, but when
the vote does take place - vote - and then tell that regional board member
who wins w hat you think of the flight suit policy and you would like it
changed for XYZ reasons that impact your involvement in the RPA personally.
That's what I would do. In fact, if you read the new by-laws the rpa members
reading this voted for, and I posted on the new web site under "governance",
the policy vote only includes the board now - the president (who now can't
hold a bod and national officer hat) only breaks a tie vote as chairman. If
a majority of the membership thought it needed to be changed, I suspect it
could be changed. Thats my personal opinion.
And if you want to come to a clinic naked, all I can say is, like at
Waycross, we invited city officials to arrange a scheduled time to bring out
local school kids for a chance to see the aircraft and pilots (think
inspiration for future pilots, a career aspiration that tends to stay clear
of drug abuse/crime and leans towards staying in school a nd getting an
education - although most pilots can't spell worth a bleep ;). So I would
think being naked at one of these events as one of you asked to do, would be
a negative gesture to these youngsters don't you think ;)
Have fun guys, thanks to those who have emailed in about the new web and
patience with the code team - I had the WB calculator uploaded to training
docs under flight training, as we do with all the good stuff sent in
(checklists, schematics, etc.). If you can't access areas (cant log in) and
were a member some time ago, the code team last night removed members who
were past due after 1 aug 2005, you can renew in seconds in the store, this
will also get the newsletter to you next week. As always, Michael and Deon
will respond asap if you have a question to admin@flyredstar.org
Heading to vegas on my first trip back on the 767 tonight, perhaps
commercial aviation is soon to turn the corner in this country...
Drew
_____
<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38381/%20ylc=X3oDMTEzcGlrdGY5BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHN
lYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDMWF1dG9z/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/index.html%20> Autos.
Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Suits again...)
Hey John,
Have you checked out the requirements to become a Sport Pilot yet? !!!!!
SURPRISE !!!!!!
Yep... you got it chippy..... the requirement for the Medical has been
"BLOWN OFF".
Excuse me for saying so, but I don't put the FAA and the RPA into the same
category. One group of people is extremely demanding, has a lot of stupid
rules that are forced on people without logic, and are pretty much
unapproachable when it comes to accepting new ideas, or changing old rules
that are cast in stone.
Yep... you got it. That 30 gallons of fuel is at MY feet. And Hitman, I
have already had one of those tanks fail in flight during an inverted snap.
100LL all over me and coming out of the drains IN-FLIGHT. (NASA FORM
ALREADY FILED. ASK FOR A COPY). If that fuel had ignited, no parachute or
flight suit could have saved me. A HALON system MIGHT have, as well as
installing a stainless steel firewall between those two fuel tanks and
myself.
As for this comment: "Grow up....you don't like the flight suit requirement
then take your club
and go home."
Excuse me, did you just tell me that if I don't like the rules of the game
to take my ball and go home?
No "Hitman", I think I'll keep chugging away trying to encourage a fair set
of rules and an even playing field for all.
Bad Bullets (Yep, I got a call sign too!) Bitterlich
(I have to admit that I like: "NO PULSE" better than what I have now...
thanks)
P.S. By the way, I was talking about the FAA in paragraph 3.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Hilterman Jr.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was:
Yak-List: Flight Suits again...)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Hilterman Jr."
<johnhilterman1@cox.net>
Gee, why don't we just blow off that requirement to have a medical in order
to fly. Who does the FAA think they are to uphold some rules I don't like.
Ugh....me know likem piss in bottle every year to fly...me takem club and go
home.
Grow up....you don't like the flight suit requirement then take your club
and go home.
By the way, battle damage or not, you've got 30+ gallons of 100LL about six
inches from your feet, inside the cockpit environment. If that doesn't make
you a little nervous if you ever have to execute a forced landing then
you've got no pulse.
Hitman out
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: RPA refuses to provide training to new pilots (Was: Yak-List:
Flight Suits again...)
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Drew Blahnick wrote:
That got your attention, didn't it. Let's see ...
> in formation training/display sorties at
> RPA formation training events/clinics it does require a flight suit by
> the flight members.
So, if Bob Fong (like FNG) shows up at an event with his newly acquired
CJ6A or Yak-52, it is the policy of RPA to refuse to provide training if
Mr. FNG doesn't own and wear a flight suit? Well gosh oh gee this sure
looks good. Let's make sure we piss Bob off and send him home (as you
guys did to a friend of mine at ARS a couple of years back) where he
will practice formation with the other guys who have had no training.
Yup, we are really fostering safety and serving the needs of the pilot
community.
As a dues-paying member of the RPA I would like to say that this sucks.
If it were my RPA we would do everything we could to provide training
and support to help people operate their aircraft as safely as possible
regardless of their age, sex, race, or choice of outerwear. Forcing
people to wear a flight suit against their will or refusing to provide
needed training is just f-----g stupid.
> This policy is upheld by our flight leads at
> events/clinics, thats many of you, as they have final say who they have
> in their flights.
I don't care who upholds it. What gives a small group the right to tell
the rest of us what to do when it in no way affects them?
> Thats a pretty small window for that policy and when
> I head to events like Waycross this year I publicly ask the flight
> members about their support of this event policy,
Let's see, I am sure we can ask around and find people to uphold just
about any policy we want. You know, maybe we should refuse to allow
women to participate as it might cramp the style of The Guys. Man, I
could come up with some real crap here but I think that the rest get my
drift.
> the feedback is
> supportive as the right thing to do. Beyond that, the collective groups
> discussions on the proven safety benefits of wearing a flight suit in
> good condition during our flying is a healthy one.
The discussion of the relative merits of various methods to prevent
burns in the cockpit is a good one. I suspect it is even more important
when in combat and the aircraft sustains battle damage. Oh wait, none of
us fly our CJ6As or Yak-52s in combat. Darn. There goes that reason to
wear a flight suit.
So we only provide training to people who wear flight suits. Yeah, that
is a great, inclusive policy. We do it because the inner cabal has
decided, "ugh, flight suit good."
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Suits again...)
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
John W. Hilterman Jr. wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Hilterman Jr." <johnhilterman1@cox.net>
>
> Gee, why don't we just blow off that requirement to have a medical in order
> to fly.
I am glad you agree it is a stupid rule. In the case of a third-class
medical it only tells us that you were more-or-less healthy two years
ago. Yeah, like that means anything today.
> Who does the FAA think they are to uphold some rules I don't like.
Oh, no, we certainly wouldn't want to say anything bad about them. After
all, they do it for us.
> Ugh....me know likem piss in bottle every year to fly...me takem club and go
> home.
As you say, it is your prerogative.
> Grow up....you don't like the flight suit requirement then take your club
> and go home.
I grew up a long time ago. I am exercising my right to disagree. If
anyone can give me even one good reason that our non-governmental
volunteer organization that is supposedly here to improve our mutual
flying experience and help improve training for the good of all of us is
requiring a flight suit in order to participate in training, then I will
shut up. But you can't because there is NO reason to require it.
> By the way, battle damage or not, you've got 30+ gallons of 100LL about six
> inches from your feet, inside the cockpit environment. If that doesn't make
> you a little nervous if you ever have to execute a forced landing then
> you've got no pulse.
So the RSPA should *require* me to wear a flight suit? It is no long my
choice? My decision is removed by a few people in a volunteer organization?
I never said that wearing a flight suit might not be a good idea. (I
suspect that in summer I will be safer without one because the threat of
hyperthermia is much greater than the threat of flash fire.) I just said
that the organization shouldn't require it.
So Hitman, you are saying that requiring a flight suit is more important
than training so that if people don't wear a flight suit we shouldn't
allow them to train. Gotcha.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Dumb questions:
Anyone know how to operate the right button on the Horizon? I assume it's a caging
knob? Do you have to cage the horizon in the Yak?
How about the clock? One button winds the thing. The other seems to stop it and
zero the second hand... But there are a couple of other little dials...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12939#12939
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: CJ vent filters |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Hi Kelley,
This is what I use on my nose case breather vent on my 285HP Housai.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?
lang=-1&catalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=13323&searchItemId=1370
1
It's a K&N filter, I change it out every annual. $17.99
Keeps the engine and fuselage cleaner, especially If you do any
inverted stuff.
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Kelley Monroe wrote:
> I am looking for filters for my 285hp CJs case vents. Or should
> they be left open? Thanks Kelley
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Just to change the subject.....
Got an email-gram from AOPA detailing examples of just why they have opposed
air traffic and airport landing user fees here in the US. They relate the
Canadian experiences and why it would be bad policy here in the US (see
below).
If they were to try and impose that on US citizens I can tell you it
wouldn't be long before these air traffic controllers would be out of
business. For example, the technology exists today to do away with the need
for ANY air traffic control system. With the level of technology we have
today it is eventually going to happen anyways.
We have the capability to build navigation and guidance systems that have no
need for ground based control....Highways-In-The-Sky if you will. The
technology for it exists now............all we need is some impetus for us
to adopt it. User fees would do just that. Who was it that posted about
"Unintended Consequences"? Here's the perfect example.......Air traffic
controllers get privatized, they get too greedy and next thing you know we
don't need them anymore because technology displaced them. It can
happen........eventually it will, I think.
Frank
USER FEES FAR FROM SUCCESSFUL IN CANADA
The most vocal user fee proponents usually point north to Nav Canada to
demonstrate the "success" of the concept. Yet since the commercialization
of air traffic control in Canada and the imposition of direct fees for
ATC services, the system has struggled financially. Now Nav Canada wants
to impose new user fees on general aviation to try to make up for the
shortfall. AOPA, on behalf of U.S. citizens flying in Canada, is objecting.
"This proposal underscores why AOPA opposes a user fee-based system in the
United States," said Andy Cebula, AOPA executive vice president of
government
affairs. "It illustrates why a user fee system does not provide stable
funding and reinforces AOPA's stance that Congress (or Parliament in the
case of Canada) is the appropriate 'board of directors' for a national air
transportation system." Nav Canada wants to start collecting new "daily
charges" from aircraft weighing less than three metric tons (less than
6,075 pounds) using eight major Canadian airports. The charge would start
at $5 a day and escalate to $10 a day by 2008. "The U.S. national air
transportation system is well served by the stable funding stream provided
by the existing combination of taxes and general fund contributions," said
Cebula. "We find no reason to support a different funding system in a
foreign
country, and we encourage Nav Canada to reconsider the proposal and not
implement the proposed new fees." See AOPA Online
( <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2006/060213navcanada.html>
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2006/060213navcanada.html ).
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits again...) |
_____
From: Craig Craft [mailto:cduster@inteliport.com]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits
again...)
Brian,
>
> Your rant on green flight suits reminds me of the folks you see
> who decide to get a new bicycle for exercise. I'm sure they all rode
> bikes as kids wearing blue jeans, tee shirts, and maybe shoes if they felt
like it.
> Now that they are in their 30's or 40's it now becomes necessary to
> ride a bike only when clad in spandex shorts, spandex shirt, and some
> form of aerodynamic helmet. I guess they think that it also helps to
> loose weight if their cloths look like someone is sponsoring them.
> Bright colors and big logos on skin tight clothes must certainly burn
> more calories than pedaling a beach cruiser in jeans. I joined the
> RPA primarily to learn about the aircraft that I am interested in. I
> got the chance to fly to the Waycross event and quickly realized that
> jeans and a button down shirt don't fit in when everyone is trying to
> pretend to be in the military. If that is what they want to wear,
> then more power to them, but to require such promotes the image that
> the RPA is exclusionary and in my opinion does a disservice to the
> RPA. Just because the aircraft are from communist countries doesn't
> mean that the pilots should adopt those philosophies. Yall can see me
> at the next event in my regular attire. If you won't let me play, then
I'll just take my ball and bat and go home.
(By the way, I wrote that early this morning before "hitman" posted his
rant, but I couldn't post it because of an email problem) By the way, I fly
about 600
hours per year under 500 feet, with about 200 of them either more than
60* bank or under 12 feet. I don't want to wear any green suit. I don't
dress you, and you
don't need to dress me. If you don't want to get hurt in an airplane,
spend your money on maintenance or training, not something to hold patches
declaring
your aviation supremacy. Yes you are riding in close proximity to fuel.
Have you ever ridden a motorcycle! How much nomex does it take to make you
comfortable straddling five gallons of
high test? Heck, look around the next time you are cutting the grass.
>
>
> Craig Craft
> Sorry I don't have a call sign, I just go by what Mama calls me
> Underdressed for sure!
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [humor] Manly men wear Nomex (was: Flight Suits |
again...)
Craig,
FYI, today I flew two rides in my 52..attired in my blue jeans, cotton T-shirt,
cotton white socks, and tennis shoes.
Doc
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 |
Scooter
The right knob is just a push to start button. I have always assumed that
this was centering the gimbles so spin up is smoother for the gyro. At times
when I have pushed it and the Horizon was quite a bit off from the previous
flight, there was mechanical motion within the unit as it centered itself. Some
one else may know better.
The Clock's left knob is for winding the clock as you have found out. Pull
the knob and you can set the clock's time. The left knob is also the push
button for the mission timer (upper sub-dial I think). The first push starts the
mission timer, the second push stops the mission timmer, and the third push
reset. The mission timer only counts minutes, has a 60 min face, and no second
hand.
The clock's right knob is both a clock on/off switch, and the control for the
stop watch. Click the knob to the right and the clock turns off. I guess
this is to save the spring winds remaining on the clock for the next flight so
something. I have seen two versions of the clock's stop watch: One version has
a second sweep on the big dial working for the stopwatch (not the clock) and
the sub-dail for the stopwatch counting the minutes with a 30 minute face.,
the other version has the second hand on the big dial working for the clock and
the stopwatch sub-dial counting minutes with a 30 minute face. Both versions
were operated with three pushes: 1) start, 2) stop, 3 reset.
Preston
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Horizon and Clock in the Yak 52 |
Uhh..replace the clock with a Narco 122D ILS . Replace the clock with a big ass
watch to show off with your niffty green flight suit with all those patches at
you next fly-in. That way you will not have to be worried about all the knobs
on the clock and you will be a 'Babe Magnet" with that big ass watch.
Doc
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Flight Suits and clinics |
Heading to vegas on my first trip back on the 767 tonight, perhaps commercial aviation
is soon to turn the corner in this country...
Drew
You mean you guys finally figured out that you can pass the cost of gas on to the
carbon units ya'll haul around?
Doc
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
It's about first solo.
It's about being right on altitude, airspeed, and heading.
It's about that perfectly vertical upline and perfectly round loop.
It's about being locked to your lead so tightly you look like one airplane.
It's about touching down on the numbers.
It's about knowing your aircraft so well you know everything is right by
just listening.
It's about that call-up to ATC with not a wasted syllable.
It's about hitting all your navigational checkpoints right on the money.
It's about keying the mic to call, "guns, guns, guns."
It's about saying, "I'm not going."
It's about helping the other guy be able to say all of these things too.
It's about flying.
It's not about anything else.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|