---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/22/06: 46 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:41 AM - Re: Removing the blades from the V-530 (Rob Kent) 2. 12:42 AM - Re: Removing the blades from the V-530 (Rob Kent) 3. 01:09 AM - Re: Re: Painting a Yak (Valkyre1) 4. 04:06 AM - Are you FAST current?, need to find a FAST buddy, are you a RedStars Formation group member (Drew Blahnick) 5. 04:59 AM - Re: Vperiod V530TA-D35 (Daniel Fortin) 6. 06:44 AM - Re: ARS policy (Brian Lloyd) 7. 06:44 AM - Re: Come again? I'm in love. (Valkyre1) 8. 06:54 AM - Re: ARS policy (fish@aviation-tech.com) 9. 07:17 AM - Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved (Valkyre1) 10. 07:17 AM - Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (Valkyre1) 11. 07:21 AM - airshow compensation (forrest johnson) 12. 07:28 AM - Re: ARS policy (Brian Lloyd) 13. 07:32 AM - Re: flying on the cheap (Ben Marsh) 14. 07:35 AM - Re: ARS policy (A. Dennis Savarese) 15. 07:51 AM - Re: ARS policy (Brian Lloyd) 16. 07:54 AM - Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (cgalley) 17. 08:02 AM - Re: flying on the cheap (Sarah Tobin) 18. 08:07 AM - Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Scooter) 19. 08:17 AM - Re: ARS policy (Roger Kemp) 20. 08:35 AM - Re: flying on the cheap (Ben Marsh) 21. 08:43 AM - Re: Removing the blades from the V-530 (Tim Gagnon) 22. 08:50 AM - Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (doug sapp) 23. 09:06 AM - Re: ARS policy (barry) 24. 10:00 AM - Val's Valkyrie Vonder Voman (ByronMFox@aol.com) 25. 10:12 AM - Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (Kevin Pilling) 26. 10:28 AM - "Real" pilots (Sarah Tobin) 27. 10:38 AM - Re: "Real" pilots (Michael Bolton) 28. 10:38 AM - cold weather starts (Jerry Painter) 29. 10:50 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (A. Dennis Savarese) 30. 11:20 AM - Re: "Real" pilots (Sarah Tobin) 31. 11:46 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Roger Kemp) 32. 11:55 AM - Red Arrows (Mark Weidhaas) 33. 11:57 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (A. Dennis Savarese) 34. 12:03 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Stephen Fox) 35. 12:28 PM - Flight Suits (Sarah Tobin) 36. 12:37 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Bob Fitzpatrick) 37. 01:09 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Scooter) 38. 01:42 PM - Re: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved (Steve & Donna Hanshew) 39. 01:58 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Richard Basiliere) 40. 02:36 PM - Re: Starting the -52 in cold weather (Steven A Johnson) 41. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Roger Kemp) 42. 02:58 PM - Re: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved (Roger Kemp) 43. 03:02 PM - More nose art (Mark Weidhaas) 44. 04:50 PM - Re: More nose art (Tim Gagnon) 45. 07:47 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Brian Lloyd) 46. 08:59 PM - Re: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved (Samuel Sax) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:46 AM PST US From: "Rob Kent" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Removing the blades from the V-530 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Kent" Tim, Blade removal is easy. You undo the nut on the counterweight bolt and the blade unscrews in the normal anti-clockwise manor. Regards Rob Kent Stores Manager WLAC - Russian Engineering www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk Tel: +44 1628 829 165 Fax: +44 1628 828 961 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Gagnon" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:52 AM Subject: Yak-List: Removing the blades from the V-530 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > Anyone ever done it? Any advice on the process. I am having the blades > overhauled next month. > > Thanks in advance! > > Tim > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=13944#13944 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:43 AM PST US From: "Rob Kent" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Removing the blades from the V-530 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Kent" Sorry Tim/Dennis, I missed this reply. Regards Rob Kent Stores Manager WLAC - Russian Engineering www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk Tel: +44 1628 829 165 Fax: +44 1628 828 961 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:23 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Removing the blades from the V-530 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > > Very easy Tim. Remove the cotter pins from the castellated nuts that hold > the counter weight clamps. Next, loosen the nuts to release the pressure > on the blade shanks. Unscrew the blades by turning them counterclockwise. > Bingo, your done. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Gagnon" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:52 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Removing the blades from the V-530 > > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" >> >> Anyone ever done it? Any advice on the process. I am having the blades >> overhauled next month. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=13944#13944 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:38 AM PST US From: "Valkyre1" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Painting a Yak Thanks Dennis, I knew I could count on you. - Val ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:47 AM PST US From: Drew Blahnick Subject: Yak-List: Are you FAST current?, need to find a FAST buddy, are you a RedStars Formation group member Folks, If you haven't already viewed it, the new association site has all FAST qualified members posted with currency under "Formation" - fully displayed, no downloading a pdf. If you are looking for folks to fly FAST with who enjoy formation - there's a locator resource, If you are one of the 81 who joined "RedStars", check out "Airshow Center" for the current 2006 schedule and who signed up for what show, you can sign up right there online to fly in a show (we are dealing with the same pain in the keester FAA rule; you need a commercial ticket as the teams are receiving 'compensation' in the form of support from the airshows, were looking at this issue). You will also note under airshow center a web rom called "Other Acts", if you have an airshow act advertised through ICAS, as an RPA member post your site there (send to admin@flyredstar.org). We will be advertising the RPA website to ICAS airshow organizers to enlist redstars or "Other Acts" ... If you want to join redstars as a FAST pilot, you can do that right there in airshow center as well - as far as manning goes, every show must have a mass lead pilot and deputy, a team/show organizer (can be one of the Redstars formation team members for that show, wing or lead makes no differance), and of course enough leads and wings to flush out the display event. Its a good program, designed to promote mass formation flying for our pilots. The goal is to have a regional redstars mass formation group in each local/regional area made up of RPA FAST qualed pilots motivated and practiced to enjoy and support the local airshow circuit. I know there are several such groups flying together now and to advance that concept the RPA will then head to ICAS each year and promote us (redstars mass formation groups) to airshows across the country. So my recommendation is, take a look at the 81 members on the redstars roster in airshow center and contact the folks who signed up in your region/local area; contact them and start meeting and flying together - Please write Jeff Linebaugh if you have specific questions Thanks for listening, Drew Yak-List Digest Server wrote: --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:32 AM PST US From: "Daniel Fortin" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vperiod V530TA-D35 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" Walt, Thanks. D >From: "Walter Lannon" >To: >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vperiod V530TA-D35 >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:30:06 -0800 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" > >Dan; > >I had not seen a reply to your question. I thought someone with more >expertise on the V530 would handle it. I probably missed it but here is >what little I know - > >Dia. 2400 mm/ 94.48 in. (same as J9G1) >R = 1200 mm/ 47.24" >Low pitch 14.5 degs. >High pitch 30.0 degs >Reference station 1000 mm (39.37 in. or 7.87 in from tip) > >Walt >----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Fortin" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:15 PM >Subject: Yak-List: Vperiod V530TA-D35 > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" >> >>Ok, >> >>Here is a trivial question for you guys; Can anyone tell me the radius, >>low pitch limit and high pitch limit of the Vperiod V530TA-D35 prop? >> >>Now, that's a beer question if I ever asked one... >> >>Thanks >> >>Dan >> >> >> >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:21 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd N13472@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > barry@flyredstar.org writes: > > If someone elects to not > wear a flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and > the RPA do not prevent anyone from receiving training, that's the > individual's choice... > > BARRY?, Please answer the question! This sounds like Bubba Clinton I DID > NOT HAVE > % $ WITH HIM OR HER!!! He did answer me. His answer was sent in private. It was that ARS supports the RPA policy requiring flight suits and that it is the choice of the individual whether or not to wear a flight suit and receive training. Therefore, if one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned training at ARS, one must wear a flight suit. The key point here is that the organization may make whatever rules it pleases and that individuals have the choice whether or not they want to belong to the organization. As much as I dislike the policy, I have to agree with the right of RPA to make it. The organization has formed based on a concept of democracy and the majority appears to support the flightsuit requirement. As a member I disagree and have made my opinion known. Ernie and others have accused me of trying to cram my views down everyone else's throat but I believe that it is a significant point that it is the function of democracy to do just that -- to allow the majority to dictate to the minority. It is assumed that the majority is right. Here in the United States democracy was modified by the Constitution with its Bill of Rights that attempts to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority but RPA is not the United States and does not have to live by the Bill of Rights and protect the minority. I agree now that it is perfectly acceptable for RPA to do whatever it wants to do. I just happen to disagree with some of RPA's policy. I believe that attempting to force people into a mold by wearing a uniform (and the flight suit is a uniform that is justified under the guise of "safety") is divisive and potentially fractionates our community. But it is their right to do and I support that right. But then, don't ask me to support the organization. -- Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:21 AM PST US From: "Valkyre1" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Come again? I'm in love. Thank You Byron... Ah, a gentleman and a scholar. We would have lots of fun I suspect. (grin) - V ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:23 AM PST US From: fish@aviation-tech.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com Brian, So if you disagree with a law or government policy, are you going to renonuce your citizenship? Nobody will ever agree with everything an organization does. What you have to look at, is the majority of the goals consistant with your beliefs and goals? Fly Safe John Fischer California City >--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > >N13472@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> barry@flyredstar.org writes: >> >> If someone elects to not >> wear a flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and >> the RPA do not prevent anyone from receiving training, that's the >> individual's choice... >> >> BARRY?, Please answer the question! This sounds like Bubba Clinton I DID >> NOT HAVE >> % $ WITH HIM OR HER!!! > >He did answer me. His answer was sent in private. It was that ARS >supports the RPA policy requiring flight suits and that it is the choice >of the individual whether or not to wear a flight suit and receive >training. Therefore, if one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned >training at ARS, one must wear a flight suit. > >The key point here is that the organization may make whatever rules it >pleases and that individuals have the choice whether or not they want to >belong to the organization. As much as I dislike the policy, I have to >agree with the right of RPA to make it. The organization has formed >based on a concept of democracy and the majority appears to support the >flightsuit requirement. As a member I disagree and have made my opinion >known. > >Ernie and others have accused me of trying to cram my views down >everyone else's throat but I believe that it is a significant point that >it is the function of democracy to do just that -- to allow the majority >to dictate to the minority. It is assumed that the majority is right. >Here in the United States democracy was modified by the Constitution >with its Bill of Rights that attempts to protect the minority against >the tyranny of the majority but RPA is not the United States and does >not have to live by the Bill of Rights and protect the minority. > >I agree now that it is perfectly acceptable for RPA to do whatever it >wants to do. I just happen to disagree with some of RPA's policy. I >believe that attempting to force people into a mold by wearing a uniform >(and the flight suit is a uniform that is justified under the guise of >"safety") is divisive and potentially fractionates our community. > >But it is their right to do and I support that right. But then, don't >ask me to support the organization. > >-- >Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way >brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 >+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > >I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . >- Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:27 AM PST US From: "Valkyre1" Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved A little fun for you guys here. The two pieces of nose art that I designed for N621CJ. I nick named him 'Chang and have to decide between putting him, or my alter ego "Valkyrie" on the aircraft. (1.) Which one? (2.) Would you guys be interested in having 'Chang available as a Red Star T-shirt? - Val The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:50 AM PST US From: "Valkyre1" Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:47 AM PST US From: "forrest johnson" Subject: Yak-List: airshow compensation DOUG count me in! Forrest "FLUSH" Johnson ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:10 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd fish@aviation-tech.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com > > Brian, > > So if you disagree with a law or government policy, are you going to renonuce > your citizenship? Well, I think we are talking different things here. Whether or not I choose to support RPA is a bit different than citizenship, don't you think? You are suggesting that one should not dissent when one disagrees and that any dissent requires one to renounce citizenship. I hold that the United States was formed upon the basis of dissent. Remember, the "patriots" of 1776 were dissenters rebelling against the legitimate, established government of England. Today we label the people who supported and remained loyal to the established government "royalists" or "loyalists". It is interesting how the meaning of words drift with time. In looking at various governments I have not found one that is better than of the United States as defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. OTOH, I am discomforted by the erosion of individual rights in the US under the guise of "security" (DHS, TSA, etc.) and "safety" (FAA, EPA, etc.). But that is not the purpose of this list. Let's just drop it. I have said my piece. > Nobody will ever agree with everything an organization does. What you have to > look at, is the majority of the goals consistant with your beliefs and goals? I guess I happen to disagree. Let's leave it at that. -- Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:55 AM PST US From: "Ben Marsh" Subject: RE: Yak-List: flying on the cheap --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" Gentle people, As my friend Dennis Sanders reminds me, fuel is cheep. And, he's right. Show me another liquid that is less expensive. If you think about it, to make fuel you have to kill all the dinosaurs, bury them for a hundred million years or so, and then find them again in places like the North Atlantic Ocean. You've got to drill through the curst of the earth--never mind the cold, deep water--pump the stuff into a freighter, transport it around the world so it can be cooked into fuel, then shipped one more time to your local and friendly gas station where the goods are taxed heavily by uncle. I'm paying $2.30/gn. for unleaded and $3.50/gn for 100LL. I can't buy milk for less, or wine or beer or bottled water for that matter. Seems a little odd that we pay $4.00, plus for milk. For milk all you need is a cow and some grass. You don't even have to farm the cows in the North Atlantic! As well, milk, wine and beer are renewable resources. Oil is finite. Yah, I hate a big fuel bill, but the stuff is pretty cheep given all that goes into making it. Perhaps we should enjoy it, without complaint, while it lasts. Ben -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: Yak-List: flying on the cheap --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd "Flying on the cheap": what an oxymoron. A big part of the cost of flying is now the cost of fuel. In my last round-trip across the US (this last Christmas) I found *huge* differences in fuel price. I could have paid anywhere from $2.80 to $5.60 per gallon for fuel. I used AirNav.com (http://www.airnav.com/) to plan my flight based on the cost of fuel. I went back and estimated how much I saved by explicitly stopping where the fuel was cheapest. My estimate came to $800 for the trip. $800 in a one-week trip paid for all the motels and meals along the way. This also is a useful point for Yak-52s and CJ6As with limited fuel. Having aux fuel will buy you more flexibility in where you land to refuel and may save you a LOT of money when traveling cross-country. -- Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:34 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Brian, Isn't that a bit contradictory? BARRY - If someone elects to not wear a flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and the RPA do not prevent anyone from receiving training. BRIAN - Therefore, if one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned training at ARS, one must wear a flight suit. What am I missing? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:41 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > > N13472@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> barry@flyredstar.org writes: >> >> If someone elects to not >> wear a flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and >> the RPA do not prevent anyone from receiving training, that's the >> individual's choice... >> >> BARRY?, Please answer the question! This sounds like Bubba Clinton I DID >> NOT HAVE >> % $ WITH HIM OR HER!!! > > He did answer me. His answer was sent in private. It was that ARS > supports the RPA policy requiring flight suits and that it is the choice > of the individual whether or not to wear a flight suit and receive > training. Therefore, if one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned > training at ARS, one must wear a flight suit. > > The key point here is that the organization may make whatever rules it > pleases and that individuals have the choice whether or not they want to > belong to the organization. As much as I dislike the policy, I have to > agree with the right of RPA to make it. The organization has formed > based on a concept of democracy and the majority appears to support the > flightsuit requirement. As a member I disagree and have made my opinion > known. > > Ernie and others have accused me of trying to cram my views down > everyone else's throat but I believe that it is a significant point that > it is the function of democracy to do just that -- to allow the majority > to dictate to the minority. It is assumed that the majority is right. > Here in the United States democracy was modified by the Constitution > with its Bill of Rights that attempts to protect the minority against > the tyranny of the majority but RPA is not the United States and does > not have to live by the Bill of Rights and protect the minority. > > I agree now that it is perfectly acceptable for RPA to do whatever it > wants to do. I just happen to disagree with some of RPA's policy. I > believe that attempting to force people into a mold by wearing a uniform > (and the flight suit is a uniform that is justified under the guise of > "safety") is divisive and potentially fractionates our community. > > But it is their right to do and I support that right. But then, don't > ask me to support the organization. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:50 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > > Brian, > Isn't that a bit contradictory? BARRY - If someone elects to not wear a > flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and the RPA > do not prevent anyone from receiving training. BRIAN - Therefore, if > one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned training at ARS, one must wear > a flight suit. Barry's comment was, I think, misinterpreted. If you do not wear a flight suit you will not be allowed to train at RPA/FAST training events. Barry was saying that they do not *force* you to wear a flight suit and that is, technically, true. I have since said I agree with Barry. RPA may require anything it wants to and I get to choose whether I participate or not. The choice is mine. RPA does not force me to do anything. > What am I missing? I think it was just a matter of sematics. I support RPA's right to make the policy. I just don't support the policy. -- Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:32 AM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Drawn from life no doubt! ----- Original Message ----- From: Valkyre1 To: YAK-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:54 AM PST US From: Sarah Tobin Subject: RE: Yak-List: flying on the cheap Wow! That must be Cali prices! I pay only 1.89 a gallon of milk here in Colo. Guess they make fancy cows out there! :) Smash Ben Marsh wrote: Seems a little odd that we pay $4.00, plus for milk. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:02 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? From: "Scooter" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear any war stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've heard a few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated stalls? Are we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I haven't seen anything unexpected. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:57 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" If you go to TRARON for CAF training the same rule applies. We aren't bitching about that though just RPA. Doc > [Original Message] > From: A. Dennis Savarese > To: > Date: 2/22/2006 9:45:25 AM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > Brian, > Isn't that a bit contradictory? BARRY - If someone elects to not wear a > flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and the RPA do > not prevent anyone from receiving training. BRIAN - Therefore, if one > wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned training at ARS, one must wear a > flight suit. > > What am I missing? > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Lloyd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: ARS policy > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > > > > > N13472@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> barry@flyredstar.org writes: > >> > >> If someone elects to not > >> wear a flight suit, that is their decision, and that's fine. ARS and > >> the RPA do not prevent anyone from receiving training, that's the > >> individual's choice... > >> > >> BARRY?, Please answer the question! This sounds like Bubba Clinton I DID > >> NOT HAVE > >> % $ WITH HIM OR HER!!! > > > > He did answer me. His answer was sent in private. It was that ARS > > supports the RPA policy requiring flight suits and that it is the choice > > of the individual whether or not to wear a flight suit and receive > > training. Therefore, if one wishes to receive RPS/FAST sanctioned > > training at ARS, one must wear a flight suit. > > > > The key point here is that the organization may make whatever rules it > > pleases and that individuals have the choice whether or not they want to > > belong to the organization. As much as I dislike the policy, I have to > > agree with the right of RPA to make it. The organization has formed > > based on a concept of democracy and the majority appears to support the > > flightsuit requirement. As a member I disagree and have made my opinion > > known. > > > > Ernie and others have accused me of trying to cram my views down > > everyone else's throat but I believe that it is a significant point that > > it is the function of democracy to do just that -- to allow the majority > > to dictate to the minority. It is assumed that the majority is right. > > Here in the United States democracy was modified by the Constitution > > with its Bill of Rights that attempts to protect the minority against > > the tyranny of the majority but RPA is not the United States and does > > not have to live by the Bill of Rights and protect the minority. > > > > I agree now that it is perfectly acceptable for RPA to do whatever it > > wants to do. I just happen to disagree with some of RPA's policy. I > > believe that attempting to force people into a mold by wearing a uniform > > (and the flight suit is a uniform that is justified under the guise of > > "safety") is divisive and potentially fractionates our community. > > > > But it is their right to do and I support that right. But then, don't > > ask me to support the organization. > > > > -- > > Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way > > brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 > > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) > > > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:10 AM PST US From: "Ben Marsh" Subject: RE: Yak-List: flying on the cheap And don't you forget it either! _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Tobin Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: flying on the cheap Wow! That must be Cali prices! I pay only 1.89 a gallon of milk here in Colo. Guess they make fancy cows out there! :) Smash Ben Marsh wrote: Seems a little odd that we pay $4.00, plus for milk. _____ Autos ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:06 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Removing the blades from the V-530 From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" Thanks guys! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14129#14129 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:03 AM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Val, Why is it that a woman always smiles when she is killing you? Note the differences in the two expressions. Now don't misunderstand, I personally would think that I would rather go out looking at a smiling face, than someone grimacing at me. But on the other hand the grimace might tend to give one a bit of for warning and allow you to run like hell. I like them both. Did you do the art work? Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Valkyre1 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:17 AM To: YAK-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:21 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: ARS policy From: "barry" --> Yak-List message posted by: "barry" Gang, Brian has correctly stated ARS's position on formation training. It is a RPA sanctioned FAST training event and abides by it's policies. Flight suits and parachutes are required....see the RPA FAST Policy and recommended equipment at www.flyredstar.org/documents/rpa_policy_changes.pdf Looking forward to seeing you all at ARS V! Cheers, Barry PS These forums are great...thanks for the push, Tim. :D -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com www.cj6.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14138#14138 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:18 AM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Val's Valkyrie Vonder Voman Zere iz no doubt. Da Valkyrie iz da vone to uze un your noze. ...der Blitz ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:30 AM PST US From: "Kevin Pilling" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Its a 'No Contest' win for your self portrait ! Pls can I use it on my A2 Leather ? k ----- Original Message ----- From: Valkyre1 To: YAK-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:44 AM PST US From: Sarah Tobin Subject: Yak-List: "Real" pilots I would appreciate an explanation of this. Does that mean that you have to have a D!$k to fly? Just wanna know where you stand. Smash Cliff Umscheid wrote: REAL Pilots don't wear Bras and "undies"! What the hell is this world coming to? TRISTAR --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:03 AM PST US From: "Michael Bolton" Subject: Re: Yak-List: "Real" pilots He must mean that the female "real pilots" should fly NAKED! Mighty "If it doesn't sound round, WHY LOOK?" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Tobin To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: Yak-List: "Real" pilots I would appreciate an explanation of this. Does that mean that you have to have a D!$k to fly? Just wanna know where you stand. Smash Cliff Umscheid wrote: REAL Pilots don't wear Bras and "undies"! What the hell is this world coming to? TRISTAR ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:49 AM PST US From: "Jerry Painter" Subject: Yak-List: cold weather starts --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" Gents-- Here in the wet PNW it seldom gets below freezing, but I have found that preheat does indeed help starting, even if its 40F or even 50F outside. Len Cunningham (Cunningham Aircraft Covers) has made several insulated cowling covers for me for both CJ's and 52's. I highly recommend them--and he has patterns for making more. They are made of heavy nylon type material, heavily insulated (and look like they could double as sleeping bags), completely enclose the cowling and have exhaust outlet openings so you can hang your favorite collection device outside the cover and keep things clean The covers are pulled tight with draw strings so you can insert a duct from your heat source anywhere you want to keep things toasty. Nothin' like a nice warm engine and oil for starting in cold weather. Electric sump heaters are also useful and can be attached to the oil tank, though I prefer to heat the entire engine along with the oil. Jelled kerosene/gasoline and Primus stoves have burned down lots of airplanes--be careful out there! It's also important to build some head pressure on the fuel line to the carburetor--wobble, wobble wobble--before you start cranking. No pressure and the fire will go out before it builds enough to sustain operation. Yes, pumping the throttle or the primer (after it's running) will help keep it running, but you gotta have that pressure first. Finally, "blubbering" is often the result of not locking the primer after start. Fuel will go past the primer and richen the mixture, just enough to cause a little perplexing roughness. Jerry Painter Wild Blue Aviation 425-876-0865 wild.blue@verizon.net http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:50 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Scooter, The Yak 52 was a primary trainer in the former eastern block countries. Consider it in the same category as a T-34. It was used to teach people who had never touched or felt an airplane before in their life, how to fly. It was not designed to kill people. There are no "bad habits". Just a whole lot of fun. And like any high performance/complex airplane, it requires proper training in all phases of flight. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scooter" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" > > Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the > interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear any war > stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've heard a > few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated stalls? > Are we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I > haven't seen anything unexpected. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:20:18 AM PST US From: Sarah Tobin Subject: Re: Yak-List: "Real" pilots Well, that wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the chaffing! Smash Michael Bolton wrote: He must mean that the female "real pilots" should fly NAKED! Mighty "If it doesn't sound round, WHY LOOK?" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Tobin To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: Yak-List: "Real" pilots I would appreciate an explanation of this. Does that mean that you have to have a D!$k to fly? Just wanna know where you stand. Smash Cliff Umscheid wrote: REAL Pilots don't wear Bras and "undies"! What the hell is this world coming to? TRISTAR --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:14 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" Scooter, The 52 is truly a fun plane to fly. My only experience with it rearing its little ugly head was a an abrupt departure due to an accelerated stall. That was the result of me getting slow in the vertical. This airplane talks to you before she decides to do something ugly like snap over on her back. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Scooter > To: > Date: 2/22/2006 10:13:50 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" > > Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear any war stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've heard a few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated stalls? Are we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I haven't seen anything unexpected. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:50 AM PST US From: "Mark Weidhaas" Subject: Yak-List: Red Arrows --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Weidhaas" Nice footage of the Red Arrows in formation to Bon Jovi music. Enjoy!!!!! http://www.metacafe.com/watch/75330/red_arrows/ Mark Weidhaas Yak 52 "36" So Cal Group ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 11:57:16 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" I agree Doc. And your statement can be applied to probably hundreds of different airplanes. I wouldn't call what you defined a "bad habit" though. You can fly numerous airplanes in the vertical and get too slow, particularly if you are slightly past the vertical and bingo, over on her back she goes. (Her and She are used affectionately and do not imply sex or gender) -:) Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kemp" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" > > Scooter, > The 52 is truly a fun plane to fly. My only experience with it rearing its > little ugly head was a an abrupt departure due to an accelerated stall. > That was the result of me getting slow in the vertical. This airplane > talks > to you before she decides to do something ugly like snap over on her back. > Doc > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Scooter >> To: >> Date: 2/22/2006 10:13:50 AM >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? >> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" >> >> Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the > interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear any war > stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've heard a > few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated stalls? > Are > we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I > haven't seen anything unexpected. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:04 PM PST US From: Stephen Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: Stephen Fox Scooter - I have to agree with all that has been said so far. I got my Yak just over a year ago and about 8 months after getting my private. There were a lot of high hour pilots on my field who were shocked and thought I was climbing into a plane way beyond my abilities. I just kept reminding myself this is the plane the russians and others tossed kids into to teach them how to fly. The first thing I noticed was how easy the Yak was to fly, nothing untoward or squirrely. Now, I wasn't out there doing inverted flight in fact I wasn't doing any aerobatics. Since then I've taken 10 hours of aerobatic training, I've flown with Sergei Borak who really showed me what my plane was capable of doing. This I highly recommend, fly with someone of Sergei's caliber. One they will really show what the YAK can do and how to get out of the ugly. But I totally agree with Doc, this plane talks to you and lets you know long before things get ugly Steve On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Roger Kemp wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" > > Scooter, > The 52 is truly a fun plane to fly. My only experience with it > rearing its > little ugly head was a an abrupt departure due to an accelerated > stall. > That was the result of me getting slow in the vertical. This > airplane talks > to you before she decides to do something ugly like snap over on > her back. > Doc > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Scooter >> To: >> Date: 2/22/2006 10:13:50 AM >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? >> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" >> >> Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the > interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear > any war > stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've > heard a > few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated > stalls? Are > we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I > haven't seen anything unexpected. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:29 PM PST US From: Sarah Tobin Subject: Yak-List: Flight Suits I swear I am not going to say anything about flight suits, except this.... Since some of you guys need them, and I have lots of friends that have recently separated from the military that have at least 3 green and 3 desert flight suits a piece, they might be willing to let you have them for cheap. If you are interested, contact me off the list with what size you would need. If you are unfamiliar, they come in even sizes, 38, 40, 42, 44 and then short/med/long. Smash --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:25 PM PST US From: Bob Fitzpatrick Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick Scooter, If you had been paying attention you would know that all you need is a flight suit, parachute, 2nd class medical, commercial rating and RPA membership to fly your 52 blissfully through the wild blue yonder with out ruffling your silk scarf . OTOH ; This is a Yak52, not a 152. We have lost some very good pilots in these planes. Get some aerobatic dual. Period. I highly recommend Sergei Boriak bob 52BN Scooter wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" > >Sorry but this has nothing at all to do with flight suits. In the interests of safety (and keeping Scooter alive) I'd like to hear any war stories about Yak 52's doing unexpected things. Seems like I've heard a few things in the past. Are we just talking about accelerated stalls? Are we talking about a normal spin transitioning to a flat spin? So far I haven't seen anything unexpected. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14117#14117 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:09 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? From: "Scooter" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I really do appreciate the concern for Scooters welfare. I'll see if I can find a russian guy to sit in my back seat sometime. I've never done aerobatics in a 152 Aerobat but I enjoyed flying the T34. That's a great airplane. I agree the yak does give plenty of warning before stalling. it also seems to behave very well in the spin both upright and inverted. I've done just about everything else with it. Doesn't do aerobatics like a Pitts but I wouldn't expect it to. it's a fun airplane. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14195#14195 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:08 PM PST US From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Ohhh, Hes buff. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Valkyre1 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved A little fun for you guys here. The two pieces of nose art that I designed for N621CJ. I nick named him 'Chang and have to decide between putting him, or my alter ego "Valkyrie" on the aircraft. (1.) Which one? (2.) Would you guys be interested in having 'Chang available as a Red Star T-shirt? - Val The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:24 PM PST US From: "Richard Basiliere" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? It sooo kicks a Pitts butt. I have a room full of trophies gotten with mine. Flew her at the 1998 U.S.Nationals and kicked Pitts butts all over Dennison. In Intermediate for the record. One of the pilots was a U.S. akro instructor of mine in his Pitts S1-T. Jumped a couple of your boys playing Aerial Combat Zone, (in my old box) - or whatever in T34-Bs - trust me they can't hang with the Yak in the hands of a Soviet Bloc trained pilot (Ukraine). There, lets get it started again...bring on the 'Changs...oh, yeah. Respectfully, rick >>> yakk52@verizon.net 2/22/2006 2:07:11 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I really do appreciate the concern for Scooters welfare. I'll see if I can find a russian guy to sit in my back seat sometime. I've never done aerobatics in a 152 Aerobat but I enjoyed flying the T34. That's a great airplane. I agree the yak does give plenty of warning before stalling. it also seems to behave very well in the spin both upright and inverted. I've done just about everything else with it. Doesn't do aerobatics like a Pitts but I wouldn't expect it to. it's a fun airplane. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14195#14195 ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:21 PM PST US From: "Steven A Johnson" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in cold weather You do keep the outside clean but I bet your mother would slap your hand if she looked inside the cowling! Steve Johnson Yak 52 N9900X Time: 10:18:20 AM PST US From: Stephen Fox Subject: Re: Starting the -52 in cold weather This is not a problem for the Fox boys. Our mother taught us - never put it away dirty! ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:19 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" Is that line I hear singing off the reel? Doc > [Original Message] > From: Scooter > To: > Date: 2/22/2006 3:16:20 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" > > I really do appreciate the concern for Scooters welfare. I'll see if I can find a russian guy to sit in my back seat sometime. > > I've never done aerobatics in a 152 Aerobat but I enjoyed flying the T34. That's a great airplane. > > I agree the yak does give plenty of warning before stalling. it also seems to behave very well in the spin both upright and inverted. I've done just about everything else with it. Doesn't do aerobatics like a Pitts but I wouldn't expect it to. it's a fun airplane. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14195#14195 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 02:58:26 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Who's calling who "Buff"?Steve or Donna? Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve & Donna Hanshew Sent: 2/22/2006 3:50:03 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Ohhh, Hes buff. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Valkyre1 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved A little fun for you guys here. The two pieces of nose art that I designed for N621CJ. I nick named him 'Chang and have to decide between putting him, or my alter ego "Valkyrie" on the aircraft. (1.) Which one? (2.) Would you guys be interested in having 'Chang available as a Red Star T-shirt? - Val The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:58 PM PST US From: "Mark Weidhaas" Subject: Yak-List: More nose art More fun for you guys. How about this nose art for a Red Star T-shirt? What a flightsuit!!!! http://www.alternativesolar.com/images/dsc00318.jpg Mark Yak 52 "36" ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:59 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: More nose art From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" Sign me up for that! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14236#14236 ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:17 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Bad Habits? --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd Bob Fitzpatrick wrote: > If you had been paying attention you would know that all you need is a > flight suit, parachute, 2nd class medical, commercial rating and RPA > membership to fly your 52 blissfully through the wild blue yonder with > out ruffling your silk scarf . > > OTOH ; This is a Yak52, not a 152. We have lost some very good pilots > in these planes. That is mostly a function of people doing things they weren't trained to do. > Get some aerobatic dual. Period. I would not hesitate to teach my kids to fly in a Yak-52 and then turn them loose on solo day. Of course we would explore the stall regime pretty carefully beforehand. OTOH, I do think the CJ6A is a better primary trainer. -- Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:09 PM PST US From: "Samuel Sax" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Val, The Chang logo looks great, although I think there are a couple of points you might need to verify for authenticity. It looks to me (I'm no expert, though) that both the sword and the hair arrangement is more Japanese than Chinese. The man resembles more like a Japanese Samurai warrior (less his body gear) than a Chinese warrior. FWIW, Sam Sax _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valkyre1 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved A little fun for you guys here. The two pieces of nose art that I designed for N621CJ. I nick named him 'Chang and have to decide between putting him, or my alter ego "Valkyrie" on the aircraft. (1.) Which one? (2.) Would you guys be interested in having 'Chang available as a Red Star T-shirt? - Val The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Val's Chang logo, rights reserved Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.