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1. 12:46 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
2. 01:18 AM - Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (Kevin Pilling)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Brian Lloyd)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved (cgalley)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Jim Griffin)
6. 07:14 AM - Flight Suits and (Drew Blahnick)
7. 07:18 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Scooter)
8. 07:34 AM - Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in Starting the -52 in (Valkyre1)
9. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Fraser, Gus)
10. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Roger Kemp)
11. 08:15 AM - Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold wea therStarting the -52 in Starting the -52 in (Fraser, Gus)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Roger Kemp)
13. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Fraser, Gus)
14. 08:40 AM - Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in Starting the -52 in (A. Dennis Savarese)
15. 09:15 AM - B nuts 'n stuff (Jerry Painter)
16. 09:24 AM - Auto spark plug conversion kit source... (david stroud)
17. 09:29 AM - Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold w (napeone)
18. 10:16 AM - Virtual formation (Fraser, Gus)
19. 10:52 AM - Re: Virtual formation (Fraser, Gus)
20. 11:31 AM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Scooter)
21. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Brian Lloyd)
22. 01:04 PM - Clarification (Brian Lloyd)
23. 02:45 PM - Re: Auto spark plug conversion kit source... (Craig Payne)
24. 03:38 PM - Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (cdustercc)
25. 03:57 PM - Desert Tan Flight Suits (Barry Hancock)
26. 04:06 PM - Re: Desert Tan Flight Suits (Stephen Fox)
27. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Roger Kemp)
28. 05:25 PM - Re: Desert Tan Flight Suits (Zeman)
29. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? (Brian Lloyd)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
It seams we have come to the conclusion the YAK 52 is a sleeping bear but poke
it with a sharp stick and it gets angry :>))))
BTW, I have been told that race drivers NOMEX suits are up to 10 layers thick.
Soooo hot after 30 mins ACM you would be sweating like you run 10 miles in Florida
in July. Now then, those chicks u wanna impress would not be impressed
at all with the stench :>)) So pretty boys just take a fresh well pressed suit
(any make) from the cupboard, slap on the appropriate Velcro patches and go
enjoy life. Oh, you still need a squirt of deodorant at the end of the day for
that bar talk on how you shot down hitman Assuming the challenge is made for
the east coast boys to meet the west coast boys for a days ACM in MS. (any chicks
there?) (what a load of crap I talk, just stoking the fire, cya !!)
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved |
Try this link .................
http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/eastmanleather/topic/topic-9604-1.stm
...........
----- Original Message -----
From: Valkyre1
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved
First, vat eez an A2 Leather? Then if you like, just leave my signature on
it and that would be fine. Just don't let anyone else copy it. ( As long as the
A2 leather, whatever it is, doesn't go anywhere I wouldn't want to.) - Valkyrie
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd wrote:
>
> It seams we have come to the conclusion the YAK 52 is a sleeping bear
> but poke it with a sharp stick and it gets angry :>))))
More like a sleeping dog. Treat him nicely and he will save your life.
Poke him with a stick and he will bite you.
> BTW, I have been told that race drivers NOMEX suits are up to 10 layers
> thick. Soooo hot after 30 mins ACM you would be sweating like you run 10
> miles in Florida in July.
Now imagine the pilot's mental performance when he/she is suffering from
hyperthermia and dehydration as a result. Which is the greater risk:
hyperthermia/dehydration or flash-fire? I know I have suffered from the
former and have recognized my reduced capacity later. I cannot recollect
ever having suffered from flash-fire.
And a pilot on my wing who is suffering from hyperthermia and
dehydration *DOES* pose a greater threat to me. I consider this to be a
real potential safety issue.
I wonder how the mental impairment from hyperthermia and dehydration
compare to intake of alcohol. Is it like one drink? Two? Three? Would
you fly with someone on your wing who has had a couple of drinks? Heck,
just the distraction of attention due to thirst would be a factor.
You know, it is hard work to try to compare the effects of different risks.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved |
http://www.flightsuits.com/leather_a2_airforce.html is about half the price.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Pilling
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved
Try this link .................
http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/eastmanleather/topic/topic-9604-1.stm
...........
----- Original Message -----
From: Valkyre1
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Vals Valkyrie Logo rights reserved
First, vat eez an A2 Leather? Then if you like, just leave my signature on
it and that would be fine. Just don't let anyone else copy it. ( As long as
the A2 leather, whatever it is, doesn't go anywhere I wouldn't want to.) - Valkyrie
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
I agree with you, Brian, about the relative risks of dehydration vs.flash
fire. The biggest problem with dehydration is that the person suffering from
this rarely recognizes their impairment until it is severe. Most of the
people on cross country bicycle trips have to be pulled off the road by
officials. They can be spotted by their erratic riding. Rarely do they
recognize it.
If it is over 75 degrees, I don't wear Nomex. I guess I'll just have to go
to RPA winter events.
Jim Griffin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
> Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd wrote:
>>
>> It seams we have come to the conclusion the YAK 52 is a sleeping bear
>> but poke it with a sharp stick and it gets angry :>))))
>
> More like a sleeping dog. Treat him nicely and he will save your life.
> Poke him with a stick and he will bite you.
>
>> BTW, I have been told that race drivers NOMEX suits are up to 10 layers
>> thick. Soooo hot after 30 mins ACM you would be sweating like you run 10
>> miles in Florida in July.
>
> Now imagine the pilot's mental performance when he/she is suffering from
> hyperthermia and dehydration as a result. Which is the greater risk:
> hyperthermia/dehydration or flash-fire? I know I have suffered from the
> former and have recognized my reduced capacity later. I cannot recollect
> ever having suffered from flash-fire.
>
> And a pilot on my wing who is suffering from hyperthermia and
> dehydration *DOES* pose a greater threat to me. I consider this to be a
> real potential safety issue.
>
> I wonder how the mental impairment from hyperthermia and dehydration
> compare to intake of alcohol. Is it like one drink? Two? Three? Would
> you fly with someone on your wing who has had a couple of drinks? Heck,
> just the distraction of attention due to thirst would be a factor.
>
> You know, it is hard work to try to compare the effects of different
> risks.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
> brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flight Suits and |
Mark, Tim and all,
It's 9am, getting my s__t together this morning to fly up to Orlando for the
FAST National BoD meeting, will bring up the issue of our flight suit/parachute
policy with the other signatories just to hear how they all approach such gear
(remember, if you were active then we had an even more extensive formation
training personal equipment policy when this was the YPA). It's just fact finding,
and won't change the policy as it is up to the new Regional-National BoD
of the RPA to decide, as it should be, but it's always good to look outside the
window and may help influence a recommendation to them.
In the mean time, if you look at "Safety Bulletins" under "Communications" on
our assocaition web, there is some info on nomex and a new fire retardent suit
someone sent in, from discussions off the list. Not a recommendation, the web
is an informational hub, but it may help in someones personal decision when
obtaining gear for their use. If the author of that information could email me
off list, would like to get some further info.
Drew
Time: 10:54:51 AM PST US
From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Deep breaths everybody....
Tim,
The flight suit issue is a volatile one for sure.
I personally think the discussion is very useful. The first time
around,
very little got accomplished other than the expression of personal
opinions,
and there was nothing wrong with that (IMHO).
This time around, there are indeed some hard core expressions of
opinion
(again), but also movement towards actually doing something about the
rule.
That is not only new, it is indeed useful.
Anytime people feel very strongly about ANYTHING, there will always be
emotion included in the discussion. Most people who own and fly
airplanes
seem to me to be rather emotional about their feelings. I know I am.
That
said, because something turns into a "hot topic" does not mean it
should not
be discussed... to me it means just the opposite. Better to let it out
in
the open rather than to have it simmer under the surface.
The reason everybody needs to take "Deep Breaths" today is because it
did
not get resolved last time. It's a safe bet that if it gets shelved
again
now... it is going to come up once again in the future.
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
it's a good thing you guys aren't firefighters :) (note smiley face)
It's during these times that i turn to Industrial Hygiene News:
http://www.rimbach.com/scripts/Article/IHN/Number.idc?Number=67
jgriffint28(at)cox.net wrote:
> I agree with you, Brian, about the relative
> ---
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14626#14626
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold |
weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Gus,
Is this the American Champion spark plug conversion you are referring to? If so,
I've heard that it saves you at least twice the money on spark plugs, to say
nothing of making them easier to find anywhere.
I'm thinking of having Bill Blackwell add the conversion to 'Chang when we fly
through PHX in April and he puts in the long range tanks. How long have you been
using them in your Aircraft? Obviously you really like them.
- Val
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
Scooter,
That picture in the article is exactly the gear I use it comes from Simpson
racing and is not too warm and is constructed just like a light knit.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
it's a good thing you guys aren't firefighters :) (note smiley face)
It's during these times that i turn to Industrial Hygiene News:
http://www.rimbach.com/scripts/Article/IHN/Number.idc?Number=67
jgriffint28(at)cox.net wrote:
> I agree with you, Brian, about the relative
> ---
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14626#14626
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Or get the summer wt desert tan cammo ones.
Doc
> If it is over 75 degrees, I don't wear Nomex. I guess I'll just have to
go
> to RPA winter events.
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| Subject: | Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold |
weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold wea therStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Yes it is Dennis, who is way to polite to self promote so I will do it for
him, sells a complete kit. I get my spark plugs from Ebay at about $1.50 a
piece. It seems that my anecdotal observations are borne out by others
experiences regarding the effectiveness of this mod. To save Dennis the
embarrassment of self promotion I can tell you that he sells the conversion,
soup to nuts, for $450 + shipping which if I remember is about $25, it is
EVERYTHING you need apart from the wrench and takes about 8 hours to fit, I
did not do mine as a nice mechanic by the name of Kirby Chambliss did mine
:))) (it's a long story)
Get it you will be glad you did.
Gus
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valkyre1
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in
cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold
weatherStarting the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Gus,
Is this the American Champion spark plug conversion you are referring to? If
so, I've heard that it saves you at least twice the money on spark plugs, to
say nothing of making them easier to find anywhere.
I'm thinking of having Bill Blackwell add the conversion to 'Chang when we
fly through PHX in April and he puts in the long range tanks. How long have
you been using them in your Aircraft? Obviously you really like them.
- Val
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color=#0000ff size=2>Yes it is Dennis, who is way to polite to self promote so
I
will do it for him, sells a complete kit. I get my spark plugs from Ebay at
about $1.50 a piece. It seems that my anecdotal observations are borne out by
others experiences regarding the effectiveness of this mod. To save Dennis the
embarrassment of self promotion I can tell you that he sells the conversion,
soup to nuts, for $450 + shipping which if I remember is about $25, it is
EVERYTHING you need apart from the wrench and takes about 8 hours to fit, I did
not do mine as a nice mechanic by the name of Kirby Chambliss did mine
:))) (it's a long story)
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Get it you will be glad you did.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Valkyre1
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:34 AM
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in
cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold
weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in Starting the -52
in
Gus,
Is this theAmerican Champion spark plug
conversion you are referring to? If so, I've heard that it saves you at least
twice the money on spark plugs, to say nothing of making themeasier to
find anywhere.
I'm thinking of having Bill Blackwell add
the conversion to'Chang when we fly through PHX in April and he puts in
the long range tanks.How long have you been using them in your Aircraft?
Obviously you really like them.
- Val
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Gus,
You are flying up there where it is actually cold and you get that white
stuff that gets all over your toys.
What's it like down here where it is generally a pretty cold day in hell
for us to see that white stuff messing up the roads and runways?
Hyperthermia may be a player here for us.
And we are off again on the damned flight suit issue..somebody
pleeeeeeaaaaaseee killllll thiss horrrrssssseeee! It keeps crawling out of
the smoking hole!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser@gs.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/24/2006 9:43:47 AM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
>
> Scooter,
> That picture in the article is exactly the gear I use it comes from
Simpson
> racing and is not too warm and is constructed just like a light knit.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:18 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>
> it's a good thing you guys aren't firefighters :) (note smiley face)
>
> It's during these times that i turn to Industrial Hygiene News:
>
> http://www.rimbach.com/scripts/Article/IHN/Number.idc?Number=67
>
>
> jgriffint28(at)cox.net wrote:
> > I agree with you, Brian, about the relative
> > ---
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14626#14626
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
I think in the press they call it drop the dead donkey. This whote stuff of
which you speak, we just call it paint stripper, go flying in it and you
will see what I mean :))
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Gus,
You are flying up there where it is actually cold and you get that white
stuff that gets all over your toys.
What's it like down here where it is generally a pretty cold day in hell for
us to see that white stuff messing up the roads and runways?
Hyperthermia may be a player here for us.
And we are off again on the damned flight suit issue..somebody
pleeeeeeaaaaaseee killllll thiss horrrrssssseeee! It keeps crawling out of
the smoking hole!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser@gs.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/24/2006 9:43:47 AM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser@gs.com>
>
> Scooter,
> That picture in the article is exactly the gear I use it comes from
Simpson
> racing and is not too warm and is constructed just like a light knit.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:18 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>
> it's a good thing you guys aren't firefighters :) (note smiley face)
>
> It's during these times that i turn to Industrial Hygiene News:
>
> http://www.rimbach.com/scripts/Article/IHN/Number.idc?Number=67
>
>
> jgriffint28(at)cox.net wrote:
> > I agree with you, Brian, about the relative
> > ---
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14626#14626
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold |
weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Thank you very much Gus. Your sentiments are echoed by virtually every person
who has installed the conversion kit.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold
weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Yes it is Dennis, who is way to polite to self promote so I will do it for him,
sells a complete kit. I get my spark plugs from Ebay at about $1.50 a piece.
It seems that my anecdotal observations are borne out by others experiences
regarding the effectiveness of this mod. To save Dennis the embarrassment of self
promotion I can tell you that he sells the conversion, soup to nuts, for $450
+ shipping which if I remember is about $25, it is EVERYTHING you need apart
from the wrench and takes about 8 hours to fit, I did not do mine as a nice
mechanic by the name of Kirby Chambliss did mine :))) (it's a long story)
Get it you will be glad you did.
Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valkyre1
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:34 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in
cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Gus,
Is this the American Champion spark plug conversion you are referring to? If
so, I've heard that it saves you at least twice the money on spark plugs, to
say nothing of making them easier to find anywhere.
I'm thinking of having Bill Blackwell add the conversion to 'Chang when we
fly through PHX in April and he puts in the long range tanks. How long have you
been using them in your Aircraft? Obviously you really like them.
- Val
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Mark,
You're dead right about metric B nuts converting US fittings. Works on most
lines, including oil, though US hoses are pretty stiff for some of the bends
One more thing. Some -52's are equipped with a genuine pressure regulator
(not just a pop off valve) that relieves the compressor (don't have my parts
book in front of me here, so no #, but its in the book). Ergo, no cable etc
to pull the snot valve. Had one on one of my 52's and it worked great.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
wild.blue@verizon.net
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html
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| Subject: | Auto spark plug conversion kit source... |
This might be an important post, so I changed the subject line in the
hopes that anyone interested might open and read it.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
Yes it is Dennis, who is way to polite to self promote so I will do it for him,
sells a complete kit. I get my spark plugs from Ebay at about $1.50 a piece.
It seems that my anecdotal observations are borne out by others experiences
regarding the effectiveness of this mod. To save Dennis the embarrassment of self
promotion I can tell you that he sells the conversion, soup to nuts, for $450
+ shipping which if I remember is about $25, it is EVERYTHING you need apart
from the wrench and takes about 8 hours to fit, I did not do mine as a nice
mechanic by the name of Kirby Chambliss did mine :))) (it's a long story)
Get it you will be glad you did.
Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valkyre1
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:34 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in
cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold weatherStarting
the -52 in Starting the -52 in
Gus,
Is this the American Champion spark plug conversion you are referring to? If
so, I've heard that it saves you at least twice the money on spark plugs, to
say nothing of making them easier to find anywhere.
I'm thinking of having Bill Blackwell add the conversion to 'Chang when we
fly through PHX in April and he puts in the long range tanks. How long have you
been using them in your Aircraft? Obviously you really like them.
- Val
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the -52 in cold weatherStarting the -52 in cold |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "napeone" <napeone@aol.com>
I have installed the spark plug kit in my Yak52. Damn near as good as Marvel Mystery
oil. Quicker starting. better idle, much smoother, more powerful, etc.,
etc. I thought mine ran well before.
David H.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14698#14698
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| Subject: | Virtual formation |
Found this link online. Apparently these guys never flew real planes but
they are all flight simulator fans, the scary thing is really how good they
are.
http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram
<http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram>
If you have trouble playing the first link try
http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html
<http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html>
Enjoy
Gus
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2658.24">
Virtual formation
Found this link online. Apparently these guys never flew real planes but they are
all flight simulator fans, the scary thing is really how good they are.
http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram
If you have trouble playing the first link try
http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html
Enjoy
Gus
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| Subject: | Virtual formation |
And for those of you missing Pappy
http://www.simradar.com/Feature/2469/What_are_we_fighting_for_.html#stream
<http://www.simradar.com/Feature/2469/What_are_we_fighting_for_.html#stream>
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fraser, Gus
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Virtual formation
Found this link online. Apparently these guys never flew real planes but
they are all flight simulator fans, the scary thing is really how good they
are.
<http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram>
http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram
If you have trouble playing the first link try
<http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html>
http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html
Enjoy
Gus
Virtual formation
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<FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And for those of you missing Pappy
<FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>
<FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A
">http://www.simradar.com/Feature/2469/What_are_we_fighting_for_.html#stream
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fraser,
Gus
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:15 PM
To:
'yak-list@matronics.com'
Subject: Yak-List: Virtual
formation
Found this link online. Apparently these guys never
flew real planes but they are all flight simulator fans, the scary thing is
really how good they are.
<FONT
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/3145/vftc.ram
If you have trouble playing the first link try
<A
"><FONT
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>http://www.simradar.com/Feature/3145/VFTC_Aerobatics.html
Enjoy
Gus
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Sorry, i'm going to take one more good whack at this horse then let it rest forever.
Here's an interesting bit:
"Post-crash Fire
Prior to the early 1970's, there was a 40% thermal morbidity and mortality due
to post-crash fire in otherwise survivable rotary-wing mishaps. Intensive research
and development followed by installation of crashworthy fuel systems and
issue of Nomex clothing has reduced the thermal injury rate in survivable aviation
rotary-wing mishaps to nearly 0%. "
- OPERATIONAL ARMY AVIATION MEDICINE - Chapter 26
Isn't google a wonderful thing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14743#14743
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Scooter wrote:
> "Post-crash Fire
> Prior to the early 1970's, there was a 40% thermal morbidity and mortality due
to post-crash fire in otherwise survivable rotary-wing mishaps. Intensive research
and development followed by installation of crashworthy fuel systems and
issue of Nomex clothing has reduced the thermal injury rate in survivable aviation
rotary-wing mishaps to nearly 0%. "
>
> - OPERATIONAL ARMY AVIATION MEDICINE - Chapter 26
>
> Isn't google a wonderful thing.
If you feel you should wear a Nomex suit then you should. Your example
is from military rotary-wing operations which are different from
civilian fixed-wing operations. We tend to operate with a much greater
margin for safety as we do not have must-fly missions.
Personally I feel that there is more threat to my flying from heat and
dehydration than from fire. I will dress accordingly. You should do what
makes you feel most safe and comfortable.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Several people have written to me because they thought my comment about
"thoroughly exploring the region around the stall" implied that I was
suggesting that one go out and do this without any prior training or the
assistance of a qualified instructor. Nothing could be further from the
truth.
Just to set the record straight:
1. I believe the Yak-52 is an inherently safe aircraft when operated
properly. It does not appear to have any bad habits.
2. I believe that to properly and safely operate a Yak-52, as with all
aircrfat, requires training from a qualified instructor.
3. I would still be very comfortable in allowing my children to train in
and then solo in a Yak-52.
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak@lloyd.com
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| Subject: | Re: Auto spark plug conversion kit source... |
So, if David can fudge the subject line...so can I. I'm currently trying different
heat ranges of NGK spark plugs in an M-14P. My experience with these plugs
in modified motorcyle engines led me there. But whatever brand plug you may use,
remember that the as-shipped plug gap was set for car ignitions. Our magnetos
put out less voltage but with more duration; a "fatter" spark. In thinner
air (temp or altitude) some mis-firing may occur unless these spark plugs are
re-gapped to the .020"-.025" range.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cdustercc" <craig@craftairservices.com>
I find it suprising that when you say "I wish you wouldn't require me to wear a
flight suit" some people hear "It isn't a good idea to wear a flight suit".
There is a huge difference in those two statements. The inability to distinguish
the difference is why libertarian philosophy has such a hard road to travel.
If you feel safer, by all means don your nomex. Heck, don't stop there, get
a helmet, parachute, life jacket, and shark repellant. If, on the other hand,
you intend to tell other people what to wear in their cockpit, be prepared
to hear some bitching. Many freedoms have been eroded in the name of safety
and "good ideas". I am sure that there are lots of people who would feel safer
if pilots would quit flying those dangerous, military, aerobatic, experimental
aircraft over their heads. Heck those things are from china and russia, they
aren't even up to FAA standards!
Craig Craft
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14785#14785
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| Subject: | Desert Tan Flight Suits |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
Gang,
I have been searching all the usual places for summer weight, tan
flight suits. Many places advertise them, but nobody has any in stock.
My usual place says he hasn't had any since August and doesn't know
when he'll see 'em again. He'll wholesale new ones to me at $150, but
seeing as how mine get oil on 'em in the first 10 mintues I wear them,
I have no real desire to buy new ones.
Anybody have a source that has the summer weight tan bags in stock?
Thanks!
B
PS Please refrain from using this post to discuss the
deader-than-a-door-nail-so-dead-is-the-horse-that-the-glue-factory-
won't-even-take-it-yet-never-truly-dead flight suit debate... ;)
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| Subject: | Re: Desert Tan Flight Suits |
On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Barry Hancock wrote:
> Anybody have a source that has the summer weight tan bags in stock?
Look on ebay
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Scooter,
I'm not Army but am AF. What you say is correct. The clothing does save
lives. I said once before or more, it for flash fire protection only. It is
not intended to keep you from being a crispy critter basking in the
fireball.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Scooter <yakk52@verizon.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/24/2006 1:36:32 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits?
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>
> Sorry, i'm going to take one more good whack at this horse then let it
rest forever. Here's an interesting bit:
>
> "Post-crash Fire
> Prior to the early 1970's, there was a 40% thermal morbidity and
mortality due to post-crash fire in otherwise survivable rotary-wing
mishaps. Intensive research and development followed by installation of
crashworthy fuel systems and issue of Nomex clothing has reduced the
thermal injury rate in survivable aviation rotary-wing mishaps to nearly
0%. "
>
> - OPERATIONAL ARMY AVIATION MEDICINE - Chapter 26
>
> Isn't google a wonderful thing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14743#14743
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Desert Tan Flight Suits |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Zeman <propwash@gmail.com>
"summer weight" is that what is called?? Though this entire flight
suit message, I never read mention of one of the main arguments
against the wearing of flight suits - some people look good in them
and others should reconsider! Seeing the RPA crew gathered at OSH -
whoooo doggy - there are quite a few who should reconsider the flight
suit rule - LOL! :)
Zeman
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Bad Habits? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
cdustercc wrote:
> I find it suprising that when you say "I wish you wouldn't require me
> to wear a flight suit" some people hear "It isn't a good idea to
> wear a flight suit". There is a huge difference in those two
> statements. The inability to distinguish the difference is why
> libertarian philosophy has such a hard road to travel.
Amen brother. I can't imagine anyone stating the issue more clearly.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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