Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:40 AM - Re: Flight Test (Craig Payne)
2. 04:25 AM - Re: New purchase (Scooter)
3. 04:30 AM - Spark Plug Conversion (MICHAEL ROEHR)
4. 04:35 AM - Re: Spark Plug Conversion (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:24 AM - Re: Spark Plug Conversion (napeone)
6. 06:36 AM - Re: Spark Plug Conversion (Tim Gagnon)
7. 06:36 AM - Re: Wooden Yak models (Tim Gagnon)
8. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (Stephen Fox)
9. 07:24 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Bob Fitzpatrick)
10. 08:37 AM - What to do with your free cash. (Fraser, Gus)
11. 08:38 AM - Personal locator beacons. (Fraser, Gus)
12. 08:59 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Sarah Tobin)
13. 09:13 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Sarah Tobin)
14. 09:21 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Herb Coussons)
15. 09:59 AM - Cedar Key (David McGirt)
16. 10:18 AM - [INFO]ACM possible issues (Fraser, Gus)
17. 11:19 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Roger Kemp)
18. 11:44 AM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Fraser, Gus)
19. 12:44 PM - [humor]Things you did not know about Russian aircraft. (Fraser, Gus)
20. 12:49 PM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Roger Kemp)
21. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
22. 01:24 PM - Re: Cedar Key (Roger Kemp)
23. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (david stroud)
24. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (Fraser, Gus)
25. 02:26 PM - Re: Commercial and Compensation (Roger Kemp)
26. 02:59 PM - Flap pulley bracket cracks (Craig Payne)
27. 03:12 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (ByronMFox@aol.com)
28. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (A. Dennis Savarese)
29. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: Spark Plug Conversion (A. Dennis Savarese)
30. 04:01 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (Brian Lloyd)
31. 07:06 PM - Re: Cedar Key (forrest johnson)
32. 07:42 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (Walter Lannon)
33. 07:42 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (Walter Lannon)
34. 08:03 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (Walter Lannon)
35. 11:14 PM - Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks (Brian Lloyd)
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>From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>
>Have no fear- he can do a fine lazy eight in the old Archer. This
>instructor thought the right DE might find the turns around a point more
>interesting when demonstrated inverted. ;)
>
>Personally, I think the skillful execution of an Advanced aerobatic routine
>can also demonstrate sufficient skill level.
>
Ah, but there is that PTS thing. Some folks get real anal about it. I did my Commercial
in the CJ. When I demo'd a REAL chandelle, my IP said it was fun but
flunked the PTS. After lots of practice I learned to fly the FAA way, takes lots
of discipline NOT to grab that stick and muscle it around.
During the check ride, the DPE commented on the smooth and precise manuvering.
Little did he know it was killing me to hold back that pony!
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: New purchase |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
I think you're missing the point Brian. I knew/know I was correct - hence the
argument with the fsdo. If you guys want to fight the government then have at
it! I've done my fighting.
brian wrote:
> Scooter wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Actually I believe I was just calling the fsdo to work out the details on
my new required paperwork. They asked the right questions and determined that
I was ferrying the aircraft without a permit. What followed was a very heated
telephone conversation.
> >
> >
>
> No, you need a ferry permit to operate an aircraft that does not have a
> valid airworthiness certificate. The airplane had a valid airworthiness
> certificate. You did not need a ferry permit.
>
> The airworthiness certificate is NOT tied to the aircraft registration.
> They are separate and disconnected.
>
>
> > Had I flown it w/o the permit then walked in to their office and told them
the truth then my nuts really would have been in the fire. It's probably legal
w/o the ferry permit but i'd have to convince them of that.
> >
> >
>
> No, you don't have to convince them of anything. You just tell them that
> you are changing the aircraft's home base to a new field that happens to
> be within their jurisdiction. Until they issue a the AC with a new LOL
> indicating the new home field, you are operating on a valid AC whose LOL
> indicates a different home field that falls within the jurisdiction of a
> different FSDO. No rocket science here.
>
>
> > My advice is: do it their way no matter how stupid it is. This avoids any
potential conflict. Remember you are guilty until proven otherwise.
> >
> >
>
> You are doing it their way. They wrote the regs and you are adhering to
> them. You just aren't doing it the made-up way that some bonehead came
> up with on-the-fly at your local FSDO when you happened to call on the
> phone. Big difference.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
> brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Spark Plug Conversion |
Mike Roehr
beach@digitalexp.com
I recently installed the "automotive" spark plug and wiring kit (as supplied by
Dennis Saverese) in my Yak-52W. Easier and quicker starting; smaller mag drops;
smooth running during all phases of taxi and flight. I'm also noticing possible
small reductions in fuel flow at given power settings and weather conditions.
A bonus is the lack of clutter with the elimination of the wiring ring
and the old wire shielding. Future wiring maintenance will be much easier.
I'm pleased with the conversion.
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
Thanks Mike.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: MICHAEL ROEHR
To: YakList
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:29 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Spark Plug Conversion
Mike Roehr
beach@digitalexp.com
I recently installed the "automotive" spark plug and wiring kit (as supplied
by Dennis Saverese) in my Yak-52W. Easier and quicker starting; smaller mag drops;
smooth running during all phases of taxi and flight. I'm also noticing
possible small reductions in fuel flow at given power settings and weather conditions.
A bonus is the lack of clutter with the elimination of the wiring ring
and the old wire shielding. Future wiring maintenance will be much easier.
I'm pleased with the conversion.
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "napeone" <napeone@aol.com>
I,also installed the plug conversion kit. Works as advertised and then some.
David H.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23106#23106
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!! I
am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Tim
Yak-50
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23122#23122
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| Subject: | Re: Wooden Yak models |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
I will be looking at getting a mass order in early next week. If there is anyone
who is interested, now is a good time.
Plan on 60 days from order to delivery.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23124#23124
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
> I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that
> engine!! I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian
> cuss words!!!
>
> I am glad to hear the reviews!!
>
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year
old that's good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in
handy :) Also Dennis is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag
cover on a bench and then run wires. I did it the other way, ran the
wires and then hooked into cover. It's doable, but it adds time to
the process. Also, and you may already know this, but be careful
when putting the cover back on, the high tension post in the mag is
easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust me, I found out the
hard way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single
slot screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the
screws and replaced with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes
putting the clamps back on much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been
working in barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs,
start and the cost of replacing a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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| Subject: | Re: Commercial and Compensation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
Doc,
I'm one of those aging boomers who's body is out of warranty. Just to
get a class III medical requires a treadmill and blood chemistry in
addition to the exam, and that is for a "special issuance" that is only
good for one year. This costs about $600 and my insurance won't even
count any of it towards my deductible. I'm told to get a class II would
require an annual angiogram , which is invasive and costs thousands, and
my AME warns that failing a class II exam could jeopardize my getting
the "special" class III again. You make it sound easy. Am I getting
bad advice?
bob
Roger Kemp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Jay,
> I will ask him if he will or not. He likes to do them in the YAK so what's
> so what would be so different about the Extra? It is still lazy 8's and
> spot landings. Yeh, for some the Class II medical maybe an issue. Some may
> require a waiver for eyes (greater than 20/200), Heart Dz, s/p CABG, HTN,
> Diabetes and thyriod dz, to name a few. It is still not that hard to get
> done though.
> Doc
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 3/20/2006 2:36:35 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> As you said, it really isn't too difficult to get the Commercial. The 2nd
>> class medical might become the issue. It sure was nice to get some
>> formation practice in this weekend at Columbus and have it all paid for.
>>
>> Will your DE do an initial private pilot exam in an EXTRA? I gotta find
>>
> one
>
>> before next year that will.....!
>>
>> Jay
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| Subject: | What to do with your free cash. |
How about this ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pre-owned-APACHE-AH64-A-D-Longbow-American-Spec_W0QQit
emZ4623857135QQcategoryZ32635QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pre-owned-APACHE-AH64-A-D-Longbow-American-Spec_W0QQi
temZ4623857135QQcategoryZ32635QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
Go on, outbid me ;))
Gus
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What to do with your free cash.
How about this ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pre-owned-APACHE-AH64-A-D-Longbow-American-Spec_W0QQitemZ4623857135QQcategoryZ32635QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Go on, outbid me ;))
Gus
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| Subject: | Personal locator beacons. |
Recently we had a discussion on PLBs Just saw this unfortunate article. A
PLB might have made a difference if they could have been found in time.
See http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2006/03/21/news/local/local5.txt
<http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2006/03/21/news/local/local5.txt>
Gus
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Personal locator beacons.
Recently we had a discussion on PLBs Just saw this unfortunate article. A PLB might
have made a difference if they could have been found in time.
See http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2006/03/21/news/local/local5.txt
Gus
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| Subject: | Re: Commercial and Compensation |
No disagreement there, however the PTS doesn't have a section for Sportsman sequence
execution to qualify for a CPL. Haha.
I like the idea of inverted 8s on Pylons. Throw in an outside roller while you
are doing it for extra credit!
Smash
Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> wrote:
Personally, I think the skillful execution of an Advanced aerobatic routine can
also demonstrate sufficient skill level.
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| Subject: | Commercial and Compensation |
Uh....yeah....I mean seriously, how many PPL/CPL applicants do you know that own
their own a/c? I have been instructing for over a decade and have met 1, he
was a doc and could afford to buy his own Cherokee 6 to learn in. I think I
was harder on him than any other student. Wanted to make sure he wasn't going
to be a typical doc that has way too much money to blown on an overpowered a/c.
Sorry had to pick on the docs! :)
Smash
Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
Now Smash,
I see your IMHO and raise you a what if the YAK or CJ is their only aircraft
and they only want to fly large Red Star fromation gaggles at airshows.
I know rent a spam can!
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: Commercial and Compensation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
Bob,
CT angiagraphy is a real option. It is non-invasive and takes about
5 min to lay on the table. We have it in Green Bay so I assume it is
available in the Chicago area. Heart disease is silent until its too
late often. If there is a cost effective way to "screen" for
arterial disease instead of the "diagnostic" heart cath then it would
be the way to go for anyone. You could have a CT angiogram done and
know before you approach the examiner.
Herb
PS - only a gynecologist so I am speaking somewhat out of my field -
go tell your internist or cardiac guy that "your gynecologist told
you about this" and you might lose your medical anyway !!
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Bob Fitzpatrick wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
>
> Doc,
> I'm one of those aging boomers who's body is out of warranty. Just
> to get a class III medical requires a treadmill and blood
> chemistry in addition to the exam, and that is for a "special
> issuance" that is only good for one year. This costs about $600 and
> my insurance won't even count any of it towards my deductible. I'm
> told to get a class II would require an annual angiogram , which is
> invasive and costs thousands, and my AME warns that failing a class
> II exam could jeopardize my getting the "special" class III again.
> You make it sound easy. Am I getting bad advice?
> bob
>
>
> Roger Kemp wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp"
>> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>>
>> Jay,
>> I will ask him if he will or not. He likes to do them in the YAK
>> so what's
>> so what would be so different about the Extra? It is still lazy
>> 8's and
>> spot landings. Yeh, for some the Class II medical maybe an issue.
>> Some may
>> require a waiver for eyes (greater than 20/200), Heart Dz, s/p
>> CABG, HTN,
>> Diabetes and thyriod dz, to name a few. It is still not that hard
>> to get
>> done though.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 3/20/2006 2:36:35 PM
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
>>>
>>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
>>>
>>> Doc
>>>
>>> As you said, it really isn't too difficult to get the
>>> Commercial. The 2nd
>>> class medical might become the issue. It sure was nice to get some
>>> formation practice in this weekend at Columbus and have it all
>>> paid for.
>>>
>>> Will your DE do an initial private pilot exam in an EXTRA? I
>>> gotta find
>>>
>> one
>>
>>> before next year that will.....!
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>
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All,
The list of people coming to Cedar Key the weekend before Sun-n-Fun seems
to be growing even more.. Looks like we will have ~ 9-10 airplanes there
now. If you are definitely coming to Cedar Key, could you please email me
off list, so we can make sure we know about everyone. We are hoping to get
some better fuel prices over that was if possible if we know how many we
have..
The list I have so far: (excluding better half's)
Robert Langford
Bill Walker
David McGirt
Tim Williams
BJ Kennamore
Shane Golden?
Terry Callaway
Terry's wingman
Jimmy Fordham
Who am I missing?
David
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| Subject: | [INFO]ACM possible issues |
While investigating something totally different I discovered the following
in the FAA archive. It is the findings of an investigation the FAA carried
out into the two acm accidents that happened a while ago. It makes
interesting reading and for you ARS folks something to think about when
planning.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examiners_inspectors/8700/fsga/media/fsga
9506.txt
<http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examiners_inspectors/8700/fsga/media/fsg
a9506.txt>
Gus
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[INFO]ACM possible issues
While investigating something totally different I discovered the following in the
FAA archive. It is the findings of an investigation the FAA carried out into
the two acm accidents that happened a while ago. It makes interesting reading
and for you ARS folks something to think about when planning.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examiners_inspectors/8700/fsga/media/fsga9506.txt
Gus
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| Subject: | Commercial and Compensation |
Yeah, I know Doc's got a bad name from V tail Bannana's, but we are talking about
YAK and ChiYAK owners already. They want the perks of flying to and in the
airshows for "compensation" in the form of a free food, gas, and rooms. These
aircraft may be the only aircraft they own, so doing the Commercial in their own
aircraft was what I was thinking of.
Be careful on that Doc thing...you could be pinched by more than anesthesiologist/Flt
Doc, Gynecologist, Colo-Rectal Surgeon and a hand full of dentist at one
of the major Red Star Events in the near future. We would have every orifice
known covered and even could create some unnatural ones to boot!
Viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Tobin
Sent: 3/21/2006 11:21:41 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Uh....yeah....I mean seriously, how many PPL/CPL applicants do you know that own
their own a/c? I have been instructing for over a decade and have met 1, he
was a doc and could afford to buy his own Cherokee 6 to learn in. I think I
was harder on him than any other student. Wanted to make sure he wasn't going
to be a typical doc that has way too much money to blown on an overpowered a/c.
Sorry had to pick on the docs! :)
Smash
Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
Now Smash,
I see your IMHO and raise you a what if the YAK or CJ is their only aircraft and
they only want to fly large R ed Star fromation gaggles at airshows.
I know rent a spam can!
Doc
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| Subject: | Commercial and Compensation |
Doc. too much information. Please lets just pick on lawyers and real estate
agents.. :))
At that rate you may well find out why Smash is called Smash, kinda like why
BamBam is called Bam Bam.
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Yeah, I know Doc's got a bad name from V tail Bannana's, but we are talking
about YAK and ChiYAK owners already. They want the perks of flying to and in
the airshows for "compensation" in the form of a free food, gas, and rooms.
These aircraft may be the only aircraft they own, so doing the Commercial in
their own aircraft was what I was thinking of.
Be careful on that Doc thing...you could be pinched by more than
anesthesiologist/Flt Doc, Gynecologist, Colo-Rectal Surgeon and a hand full
of dentist at one of the major Red Star Events in the near future. We would
have every orifice known covered and even could create some unnatural ones
to boot!
Viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah <mailto:aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com> Tobin
Sent: 3/21/2006 11:21:41 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Uh....yeah....I mean seriously, how many PPL/CPL applicants do you know that
own their own a/c? I have been instructing for over a decade and have met
1, he was a doc and could afford to buy his own Cherokee 6 to learn in. I
think I was harder on him than any other student. Wanted to make sure he
wasn't going to be a typical doc that has way too much money to blown on an
overpowered a/c.
Sorry had to pick on the docs! :)
Smash
Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
Now Smash,
I see your IMHO and raise you a what if the YAK or CJ is their only aircraft
and they only want to fly large R ed Star fromation gaggles at airshows.
I know rent a spam can!
Doc
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color=#0000ff size=2>Doc. too much information. Please lets just pick on lawyers
and real estate agents.. :))
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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>At that rate you may well find out why Smash is called
Smash, kinda like why BamBam is called Bam Bam.
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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:17 PM
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and
Compensation
Yeah, I know Doc's got a bad name from
V tail Bannana's, but we are talking about YAK and ChiYAK owners already. They
want the perks of flying to and in the airshows for "compensation" in the form
of a free food, gas, and rooms. These aircraft may be the only aircraft they
own, so doing the Commercial in their own aircraft was what I was thinking
of.
Be careful on that Doc thing...you
could be pinched bymore thananesthesiologist/Flt Doc,
Gynecologist, Colo-Rectal Surgeon and a hand full of dentist at one of the
major Red Star Events in the near future. We would have every orifice known
covered and even could create some unnatural ones to boot!
Viperdoc
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Tobin
To: <A title=yak-list@matronics.com
">yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: 3/21/2006 11:21:41 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and
Compensation
Uh....yeah....I mean seriously, how many PPL/CPL applicants do you know
that own their own a/c? I have been instructing for over a decade and
have met 1, he was a doc and could afford to buy his own Cherokee 6 to learn
in. I think I was harder on him than any other student. Wanted
to make sure he wasn't going to be a typical doc that has way toomuch
money to blown on an overpowered a/c.
Sorry had to pick on the docs! :)
Smash
Roger Kemp viperdoc@mindspring.com
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Now Smash,
I see your IMHO and raise you a
what if the YAK or CJ is their only aircraft and they only want to fly
large R ed Star fromation gaggles at airshows.
I know rent a spam
can!
Doc
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http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/fisher/
<http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/fisher/>
Good grief
Gus
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[humor]Things you did not know about Russian aircraft.
http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/fisher/
Good grief
Gus
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Bob,
Contact me off list. viperdoc@mindspring.com.
I've put post CABG Delta Drivers (FAA class 1) back to work after 6 months
manditory grounding.
How old are you, what are your major medical conditions that require you to
have a special issuance FC III? There has to be more to this story. Why
does your IME say you have to have an angiogram annually for a FC II.
Generally, it is an EKG, thallium GXT treadmill and echocardiagram for
those that have had coronary artery disease requiring intervention with
stints or bypass grafting. If there are ischemic changes or questionable
areas of hypoperfusion on the GXT do you need an angiogram. If there is a
rhythem disturbance you would then need a 24 hour Holter monitor.
If your IME has questions about what is needed to keep you flying, ask him
to call the OK City hotline for IME's. They will fax him all the
requirements for a workup for waiver. You can go to the AOPA medical
section to get answers also. I have to admit, Ok City does like to play I
have a secret sometimes.
I need more of the facts to make a call in this situation.
Thanks,
Doc Kemp
> [Original Message]
> From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 3/21/2006 11:28:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
>
> Bob,
> CT angiagraphy is a real option. It is non-invasive and takes about
> 5 min to lay on the table. We have it in Green Bay so I assume it is
> available in the Chicago area. Heart disease is silent until its too
> late often. If there is a cost effective way to "screen" for
> arterial disease instead of the "diagnostic" heart cath then it would
> be the way to go for anyone. You could have a CT angiogram done and
> know before you approach the examiner.
>
> Herb
> PS - only a gynecologist so I am speaking somewhat out of my field -
> go tell your internist or cardiac guy that "your gynecologist told
> you about this" and you might lose your medical anyway !!
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Bob Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
> >
> > Doc,
> > I'm one of those aging boomers who's body is out of warranty. Just
> > to get a class III medical requires a treadmill and blood
> > chemistry in addition to the exam, and that is for a "special
> > issuance" that is only good for one year. This costs about $600 and
> > my insurance won't even count any of it towards my deductible. I'm
> > told to get a class II would require an annual angiogram , which is
> > invasive and costs thousands, and my AME warns that failing a class
> > II exam could jeopardize my getting the "special" class III again.
> > You make it sound easy. Am I getting bad advice?
> > bob
> >
> >
> > Roger Kemp wrote:
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp"
> >> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
> >>
> >> Jay,
> >> I will ask him if he will or not. He likes to do them in the YAK
> >> so what's
> >> so what would be so different about the Extra? It is still lazy
> >> 8's and
> >> spot landings. Yeh, for some the Class II medical maybe an issue.
> >> Some may
> >> require a waiver for eyes (greater than 20/200), Heart Dz, s/p
> >> CABG, HTN,
> >> Diabetes and thyriod dz, to name a few. It is still not that hard
> >> to get
> >> done though.
> >> Doc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
> >>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >>> Date: 3/20/2006 2:36:35 PM
> >>> Subject: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
> >>>
> >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
> >>>
> >>> Doc
> >>>
> >>> As you said, it really isn't too difficult to get the
> >>> Commercial. The 2nd
> >>> class medical might become the issue. It sure was nice to get some
> >>> formation practice in this weekend at Columbus and have it all
> >>> paid for.
> >>>
> >>> Will your DE do an initial private pilot exam in an EXTRA? I
> >>> gotta find
> >>>
> >> one
> >>
> >>> before next year that will.....!
> >>>
> >>> Jay
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official name of
this tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a universal joint
built right into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two types, one has an
actual universal type knuckle joint built in right behind a SHALLOW socket
(important that it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is one that uses a
kind of hex ball in a round socket universal joint, again built in right
behind a shallow socket. Forget about using a normal socket "connected to"
a universal.... it's too darn long/big for the worst ones.
I am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top
of my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the
"ring" off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing
and muttering.
Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool, and then
one with. Night and day difference.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!!
I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year old
that's good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :) Also
Dennis is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on a bench and
then run wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then hooked into
cover. It's doable, but it adds time to the process. Also, and you may
already know this, but be careful when putting the cover back on, the high
tension post in the mag is easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust
me, I found out the hard way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single slot
screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws and
replaced with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the clamps
back on much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been working in
barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and the cost of
replacing a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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Talon,
I am a maybe. If I come down, it will be just for Cedar Key. I will have to press
back to MGM for work on Monday.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: David McGirt
Sent: 3/21/2006 12:06:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Cedar Key
All,
The list of people coming to Cedar Key the weekend before Sun-n-Fun seems to
be growing even more.. Looks like we will have ~ 9-10 airplanes there now. If
you are definitely coming to Cedar Key, could you please email me off list,
so we can make sure we know about everyone. We are hoping to get some better
fuel prices over that was if possible if we know how many we have..
The list I have so far: (excluding better halfs)
Robert Langford
Bill Walker
David McGirt
Tim Williams
BJ Kennamore
Shane Golden?
Terry Callaway
Terrys wingman
Jimmy Fordham
Who am I missing?
David
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
Anyone know if you save much weight by the conversion?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official name of this
tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a universal joint built right
into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two types, one has an actual universal
type knuckle joint built in right behind a SHALLOW socket (important that
it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is one that uses a kind of hex ball in
a round socket universal joint, again built in right behind a shallow socket.
Forget about using a normal socket "connected to" a universal.... it's too
darn long/big for the worst ones.
I am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top of
my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the "ring"
off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing and muttering.
Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool, and then
one with. Night and day difference.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!!
I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year old that's
good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :) Also Dennis
is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on a bench and then run
wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then hooked into cover. It's
doable, but it adds time to the process. Also, and you may already know this,
but be careful when putting the cover back on, the high tension post in the
mag is easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust me, I found out the hard
way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single slot
screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws and replaced
with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the clamps back on
much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been working in
barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and the cost of replacing
a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
A little because you remove the metal ring all together, but I would say
that you would better affect the W&B by avoiding that next burger, the
difference is not great.
Gus
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david stroud
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
Anyone know if you save much weight by the conversion?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <mailto:BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official name of
this tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a universal joint
built right into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two types, one has an
actual universal type knuckle joint built in right behind a SHALLOW socket
(important that it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is one that uses a
kind of hex ball in a round socket universal joint, again built in right
behind a shallow socket. Forget about using a normal socket "connected to"
a universal.... it's too darn long/big for the worst ones.
I am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top
of my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the
"ring" off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing
and muttering.
Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool, and then
one with. Night and day difference.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!!
I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year old
that's good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :) Also
Dennis is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on a bench and
then run wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then hooked into
cover. It's doable, but it adds time to the process. Also, and you may
already know this, but be careful when putting the cover back on, the high
tension post in the mag is easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust
me, I found out the hard way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single slot
screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws and
replaced with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the clamps
back on much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been working in
barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and the cost of
replacing a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>A little because you remove the metal ring all together,
but I would say that you would better affect the WB by avoiding that next
burger, the difference is not great.
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david
stroud
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:33 PM
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug
Conversion
Anyone know if you save much weight
by the conversion?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
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----- Original Message -----
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
<A title=BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
">Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
To: <A title=yak-list@matronics.com
'">'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug
Conversion
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official
name of this tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a
universal joint built right into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two
types, one has an actual universal type knuckle joint built in right behind
a SHALLOW socket (important that it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is
one that uses a kind of hex ball in a round socket universal joint, again
built in right behind a shallow socket. Forget about using a normal
socket "connected to" a universal.... it's too darn long/big for the worst
ones.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
I
am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top of
my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the
"ring" off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing
and muttering.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool,
and then one with. Night and day difference.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mark Bitterlich
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>N50YK
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen
Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug
Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:<BR
class=Apple-interchange-newline>
<FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind
that engine!! I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian
cuss words!!!
<FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>I am glad to hear the reviews!!
<P
style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica">
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year
old that's good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :)
Also Dennis is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on
a bench and then run wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then
hooked into cover. It's doable, but it adds time to the process.
Also, and you may already know this, but be careful when putting the
cover back on, the high tension post in the mag is easier than you think
to bend and crack. Trust me, I found out the hard way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single
slot screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws
and replaced with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the
clamps back on much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been
working in barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and
the cost of replacing a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
Checked by AVG Free
Edition.
3/20/06
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| Subject: | Commercial and Compensation |
Copy.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus
Sent: 3/21/2006 1:49:29 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Doc. too much information. Please lets just pick on lawyers and real estate agents..
:))
At that rate you may well find out why Smash is called Smash, kinda like why BamBam
is called Bam Bam.
Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Yeah, I know Doc's got a bad name from V tail Bannana's, but we are talking about
YAK and ChiYAK owners already. They want the perks of flying to and in the
airshows for "compensation" in the form of a free food, gas, and rooms. These
aircraft may be the only aircraft they own, so doing the Commercial in their own
aircraft was what I was thinking of.
Be careful on that Doc thing...you could be pinched by more than anesthesiologist/Flt
Doc, Gynecologist, Colo-Rectal Surgeon and a hand full of dentist at one
of the major Red Star Events in the near future. We would have every orifice
known covered and even could create some unnatural ones to boot!
Viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Tobin
Sent: 3/21/2006 11:21:41 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commercial and Compensation
Uh....yeah....I mean seriously, how many PPL/CPL applicants do you know that own
their own a/c? I have been instructing for over a decade and have met 1, he
was a doc and could afford to buy his own Cherokee 6 to learn in. I think I
was harder on him than any other student. Wanted to make sure he wasn't going
to be a typical doc that has way too much money to blown on an overpowered a/c.
Sorry had to pick on the docs! :)
Smash
Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
Now Smash,
I see your IMHO and raise you a what if the YAK or CJ is their only aircraft and
they only want to fly large R ed Star fromation gaggles at airshows.
I know rent a spam can!
Doc
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| Subject: | Flap pulley bracket cracks |
Just finished with the General Condition inspection for my CJ. Other than the usual
wear and service items, one "find" stood out: small cracks in the right and
left outboard Flap pulley brackets. This is where the cable turns 90 degrees
to the flap sides. Stop drilling was the immediate measure but doublers will
be in the works.
Cause? Well, this is the New Age where nobody is ever responsible for their own
actions...sooo, it must be from the childhood strain of being the oldest of 4
brothers with a widowed mom.... that tramatic experience caused me to deploy
the flaps before the aircraft bled off enough speed. Must be angst from my childhood.
I'll call Mom this weekend and complain. Or, maybe I don't know what
the Max Flap down speed is for the CJ. Anyone have a speed number?
Craig Payne
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In a message dated 3/21/06 3:00:04 PM, cpayne@joimail.com writes:
> Max Flap down speed is for the CJ. Anyone have a speed number?
>
I've been using 100kts, Craig, but would like to know if I'm too fast.
...Blitz
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
It's an 11 mm nut that has to be removed and reinstalled. 1/4 drive with a nice
9" or so extension works perfectly. 1/4 drive universal is also very handy.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official name of this
tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a universal joint built right
into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two types, one has an actual universal
type knuckle joint built in right behind a SHALLOW socket (important that
it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is one that uses a kind of hex ball in
a round socket universal joint, again built in right behind a shallow socket.
Forget about using a normal socket "connected to" a universal.... it's too
darn long/big for the worst ones.
I am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top of
my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the "ring"
off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing and muttering.
Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool, and then
one with. Night and day difference.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!!
I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year old that's
good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :) Also Dennis
is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on a bench and then run
wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then hooked into cover. It's
doable, but it adds time to the process. Also, and you may already know this,
but be careful when putting the cover back on, the high tension post in the
mag is easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust me, I found out the hard
way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single slot
screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws and replaced
with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the clamps back on
much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been working in
barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and the cost of replacing
a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plug Conversion |
Weight savings is less than 5 pounds. Not enough to make a difference.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: david stroud
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
Anyone know if you save much weight by the conversion?
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
I'd strongly advise purchasing .... sheesh,. what is the official name of this
tool? It's a 1/4" or 3/8" drive socket that has a universal joint built right
into the back of it. ANYWAY, there are two types, one has an actual universal
type knuckle joint built in right behind a SHALLOW socket (important that
it is shallow) and the other BETTER type is one that uses a kind of hex ball
in a round socket universal joint, again built in right behind a shallow socket.
Forget about using a normal socket "connected to" a universal.... it's too
darn long/big for the worst ones.
I am sorry for being vague and not remembering the metric size off the top
of my head, but this tool coupled with a long extension makes getting the "ring"
off a LOT easier, saving a lot of knuckles and also a lot of cursing and muttering.
Just an observation from one who helped do a few without this tool, and then
one with. Night and day difference.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:58 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Spark Plug Conversion
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
I start the conversion tomorrow!! It looks pretty tight behind that engine!!
I am looking forward to some busted knuckles and Russian cuss words!!!
I am glad to hear the reviews!!
Be patient, getting that ring off is a bitch. If you have a five year old
that's good with a wrench his/her small hands will come in handy :) Also Dennis
is right - it's a lot easier to wire up the mag cover on a bench and then
run wires. I did it the other way, ran the wires and then hooked into cover.
It's doable, but it adds time to the process. Also, and you may already know
this, but be careful when putting the cover back on, the high tension post in
the mag is easier than you think to bend and crack. Trust me, I found out the
hard way.
And lastly, the clamps holding the wires on my plane where all single slot
screws - another pain. Once I had the clamps off I tossed the screws and replaced
with a slightly longer phillips head. This makes putting the clamps back
on much easier.
However, once you are done and your hands look like you've been working in
barbed wire factory, you'll love how your plane runs, start and the cost of
replacing a plug should you ever have to.
Have fun!
Steve Fox
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Craig Payne wrote:
> complain. Or, maybe I don't know what the Max Flap down speed is for
> the CJ. Anyone have a speed number?
Speeds
Vs0 (stall gear, flaps down) 59 Kts (108 Kph)
Vs1 (stall clean) 61 Kts (112 Kph)
Vfe (max flap extension speed) 108 Kts (198 Kph)
Vlo (gear down speed) 130 Kts (240 Kph)
Va (maneuvering speed) 149 Kts (275 Kph)
Vd (maximum dive speed) 201 Kts (370 Kph)
Brian
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What is Cedar key? where is it? what is happening? I am coming to S&F might come
early, Please advise.
----- Original Message -----
From: David McGirt
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Cedar Key
All,
The list of people coming to Cedar Key the weekend before Sun-n-Fun seems to
be growing even more.. Looks like we will have ~ 9-10 airplanes there now.
If you are definitely coming to Cedar Key, could you please email me off list,
so we can make sure we know about everyone. We are hoping to get some better
fuel prices over that was if possible if we know how many we have..
The list I have so far: (excluding better half's)
Robert Langford
Bill Walker
David McGirt
Tim Williams
BJ Kennamore
Shane Golden?
Terry Callaway
Terry's wingman
Jimmy Fordham
Who am I missing?
David
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pulley bracket cracks |
Craig;
Are the cracks located in the flap where the cable attaches or at the pulley brackets
on the wing trailing edge ribs?
Neither one is an area that I would expect damage from too high a flap down speed
(but who knows).
With regard to the flap down limit speed there is some difference of opinion. I
recommend specific flap and gear limits to all who order cockpit placards. These
limits are based on a structural evaluation (including gear doors and attachment)
of the CJ in comparison to the Harvard (T6), Beech T34 and Piper Comanche.
Only the Harvard flap structure is comparable enough for a reasonable evaluation
of the flap limit.
Those numbers are; Flap - 90 Kts, Gear - 110 Kts.
The PLAAF does not give specific gear & flap limits in the Pilots Flight Manual
BUT they do specify a maximum speed in the circuit of 170 Kph (92Kts)
Many of the CJ owners in the US believe the limits are 108 and 130 Kts respectively.
I understand these numbers came from Yakkity-Yaks but don't know for sure. Interestingly
these are the limits for the AT6 series of aircraft. IMHO they do not
apply to the CJ. Without boring everyone with a lot of detail the CJ flap speed
is limited by the single point of actuation compared to a multiple point T6
system. The gear speed is limited by the large gear doors with somewhat questionable
attachment.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Flap pulley bracket cracks
Just finished with the General Condition inspection for my CJ. Other than the
usual wear and service items, one "find" stood out: small cracks in the right
and left outboard Flap pulley brackets. This is where the cable turns 90 degrees
to the flap sides. Stop drilling was the immediate measure but doublers will
be in the works.
Cause? Well, this is the New Age where nobody is ever responsible for their own
actions...sooo, it must be from the childhood strain of being the oldest of
4 brothers with a widowed mom.... that tramatic experience caused me to deploy
the flaps before the aircraft bled off enough speed. Must be angst from my childhood.
I'll call Mom this weekend and complain. Or, maybe I don't know what
the Max Flap down speed is for the CJ. Anyone have a speed number?
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Flap pulley bracket cracks
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
> Craig Payne wrote:
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>> complain. Or, maybe I don't know what the Max Flap down speed is for
>> the CJ. Anyone have a speed number?
>
> Speeds
>
> Vs0 (stall gear, flaps down) 59 Kts (108 Kph)
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> Vs1 (stall clean) 61 Kts (112 Kph)
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> Vfe (max flap extension speed) 108 Kts (198 Kph)
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> Vlo (gear down speed) 130 Kts (240 Kph)
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> Va (maneuvering speed) 149 Kts (275 Kph)
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> Vd (maximum dive speed) 201 Kts (370 Kph)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Hi Brian;
Re: Flap and gear limits, see comments in previous answer to Craig's post.
Where did you find the Va? The only numbers I have noted seem to be more
like max. structural cruise than maneuvering speeds.
Vd should read Vne. Vd is maximum demonstrated dive speed at, Vne is 90% Vd.
Interesting that the CJ6 Vne is 350 Kph while the CJ6A is 370 Kph. Duh!!
Does that mean they were able to demonstrate a higher Vd with the extra 25
HP ????????
Or does that mean the aircraft gets stronger with more HP????????
Cheers;
Walt
> Speeds
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> Vs0 (stall gear, flaps down) 59 Kts (108 Kph)
>
> Vs1 (stall clean) 61 Kts (112 Kph)
>
> Vfe (max flap extension speed) 108 Kts (198 Kph)
>
> Vlo (gear down speed) 130 Kts (240 Kph)
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> Va (maneuvering speed) 149 Kts (275 Kph)
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> Vd (maximum dive speed) 201 Kts (370 Kph)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Walter Lannon wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
>
> Hi Brian;
>
> Re: Flap and gear limits, see comments in previous answer to Craig's post.
Good info, thanks.
> Where did you find the Va? The only numbers I have noted seem to be
> more like max. structural cruise than maneuvering speeds.
Va is actually easy to calculate. You want to know airspeed where the
wing will stall right when you reach maximum load factor so you take the
stall speed at 1G and multiply by the square root of the maximum load
factor.
If the stall speed is 61 kts and the max airframe load is 6g,
61*sqrt(6) = 149.4 kts.
> Vd should read Vne. Vd is maximum demonstrated dive speed at, Vne is 90%
> Vd.
> Interesting that the CJ6 Vne is 350 Kph while the CJ6A is 370 Kph. Duh!!
> Does that mean they were able to demonstrate a higher Vd with the extra
> 25 HP ????????
> Or does that mean the aircraft gets stronger with more HP????????
This was a big question some years back. I agree that the number I
listed as Vd is probably more like what we call Vne here in the US.
Still, the Chinese call it Vd and given that it wasn't clear how they
classified it, I just left the name alone. Bushi Cheng confirmed that it
is safe to operate the aircraft at Vd. (And I know that the airplane
will hang together just fine at 231 kts.) As I recall he said something
about it being the maximum speed they demonstrated, not necessarily the
maximum safe speed. But that could just be the marbles rattling in my
head talking.
And you are right: the numbers for Vfe and Vlo came from Yakity-Yaks.
Unfortunately there just weren't any other numbers. But I am not married
to them. We discovered that there were a couple of things that came out
of Yakity-Yaks that weren't quite kosher. I guess there are a number of
airplanes that are flying with exactly the same W&B data even tho' the
airplanes are configured differently. So these numbers could be
questionable as well. Still the airplane seems to hold up OK using the
numbers I gave for Vfe and Vlo.
>
> Cheers;
> Walt
>
>> Speeds
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>> Vs0 (stall gear, flaps down) 59 Kts (108 Kph)
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>> Vs1 (stall clean) 61 Kts (112 Kph)
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>> Vfe (max flap extension speed) 108 Kts (198 Kph)
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>> Vlo (gear down speed) 130 Kts (240 Kph)
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>> Va (maneuvering speed) 149 Kts (275 Kph)
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>> Vd (maximum dive speed) 201 Kts (370 Kph)
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