Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:31 AM - CJ Main Wheel Bearing Race Removal (Mark Jefferies-YAK UK)
2. 04:40 AM - Re: Re: Glide ratio for a Yak-50?? (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 04:42 AM - Re: SNF airshow 1 (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 04:59 AM - Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:16 AM - Re: Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout (Hans Oortman)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: A pilots view (Tim Gagnon)
7. 07:10 AM - A pilots view (Tim Gagnon)
8. 07:27 AM - Re: SNF airshow 1 (Valkyre1)
9. 07:46 AM - Re: Sean Tucker Bailout (Valkyre1)
10. 08:14 AM - Re: Sean Tucker Bailout (Tim Gagnon)
11. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Glide ratio for a Yak-50?? (Brian Lloyd)
12. 09:32 AM - Wiki instructions (was: CJ Main Wheel Bearing Race Removal) (Brian Lloyd)
13. 09:40 AM - Re: Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout (Brian Lloyd)
14. 11:36 AM - Re: Sean Tucker Bailout (Roger Kemp)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: SNF airshow 1 (Roger Kemp)
16. 02:19 PM - SNF airshow 2 (Craig Payne)
17. 03:39 PM - glide ratios (Jerry Painter)
18. 04:04 PM - Re: glide ratios (Brian Lloyd)
19. 04:40 PM - SNF Airshow Pics from Tuesday (David McGirt)
20. 06:17 PM - Bear 360 (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | CJ Main Wheel Bearing Race Removal |
Just stick weld them out. simple. Same as you would a valve seat within the
cylinder.
Brian, wiki this pls.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
How does one remove the races in the wheels when replacing bearings?
Is there a special tool or technique? Like some sort of gear puller
with it's teeth on the outside?
Or do I just hammer it out from behind with a brass punch?
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Glide ratio for a Yak-50?? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Thanks Brian for agreeing with my earlier post.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Glide ratio for a Yak-50??
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>
> Tim Gagnon wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>>
>> Great info folks! I plan on flying the profile soon but was just screwing
>> around with this PDA program. A few of our SoCal -50 guys have done some
>> work with altitude loss with and without gear. They put out a nice excel
>> sheet on the results. Thanks for the help!!
>
> You know, you guys are talking to the biggest techno-tweak around when
> you talk to me. (Well, maybe I play second fiddle to Craig in this arena
> but I'm not that far back.) I play with spreadsheets and all kinds of
> technical stuff.
>
> Here's the bottom line: you can't do this technically. What your
> airplane does in terms of glide has to be something that is as intrinsic
> to you as your heartbeat. Numbers don't mean crap. You have to be able
> to look at the ground, pull the throttle to idle, and know where you are
> going to end up. You need to know how the gear, flaps, and cooling
> shutters are going to tweak things. The only way you develop that sense
> is to fly the airplane.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
> brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: SNF airshow 1 |
Yeah....the same week as S&F too!!!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: SNF airshow 1
Like I said earlier, Yeh Ha! Next year lets boycott SNF and do a Spring Red Air!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: 4/4/2006 7:11:07 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SNF airshow 1
Today's WB airshow consisted of mass arrivals. The T-34's arrived earlier in
the day on their own schedule and got parked up in front of the "Yaks" with
wheels on pavement, out of the dirt. in a place "reserved" for something that
didn't show up.
Yaks in the Back; get it? We had 11 CJ's and 11 Yaks in our gaggle. Was really
great fun except Air Boss gave us one frequency he never used and the Real
one to the T-28's and T-6's. Trojan lead was kind enough to share it with us.
My Paranoia again...looks like Poop, smells like Poop, tastes like....
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Here's a good news video clip. I just wish they wouldn't use the word
"stunt" pilot though.
http://www.ktbs.com/news/local/2574846.html?video=YHI&t=a
Dennis
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| Subject: | Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Hans Oortman" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
As I have said before: I hate the word "stunt" pilot, but I think it
sells....
Nice clip...Must be a very professional dude.....wel done.
Hans
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens A. Dennis Savarese
Verzonden: woensdag 5 april 2006 13:59
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Onderwerp: Yak-List: Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Here's a good news video clip. I just wish they wouldn't use the word
"stunt" pilot though.
http://www.ktbs.com/news/local/2574846.html?video=YHI&t=a
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: A pilots view |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Someone more poetic than me can come up with something about Yak/CJ Pilots..
I am not sure of the author.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26581#26581
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
You see them at airport terminals around the world. You see them in the
Morning early, sometimes at night.
They come neatly uniformed and hatted, sleeves striped; wings over their
left pocket; They show up looking fresh.
There's a brisk, young-old look of efficiency about them. They arrive fresh
from home, from hotels, carrying suitcases, battered briefcases, bulging,
with a wealth of technical information, data, filled with regulations,
rules.
They know the new, harsh sheen of Chicago's O'Hare. They know the cluttered approaches
to Newark; they know the tricky shuttle that is Rio; they know but do
not relish the intricate instrument approaches to various foreign airports; they
know the volcanoes all around Guatemala.
They respect foggy San Francisco. They know the up-and-down walk to the gates at
Dallas, the Texas sparseness of Abilene, the very narrow Berlin Corridor, New
Orleans' sparkling terminal, the milling crowds at Washington. They know Butte,
Boston, and Beirut. They appreciate Miami's perfect weather, they recognize
the danger of an ice-slick runway at JFK.
They understand short runways, antiquated fire equipment, inadequate
Complacency.
They marvel at the exquisite good taste of hot coffee in Anchorage and a
cold beer in Guam. They vaguely remember the workhorse efficiency of the DC-3s,
the reliability of the DC- 4s and DC 6s, the trouble with the DC-7 and the propellers
on Boeing 377s. They discuss the beauty of an old gal named Connie. They
recognize the high shrill whine of a Viscount, the rumbling thrust of a DC-8
or 707 on a clearway takeoff from Haneda, and a Convair. The remoteness of
the 747 cockpit. The roominess of the DC10 and the snug fit of a 145. They speak
a language unknown to Webster.
They discuss ALPA, EPRs, fans, mach and bogie swivels. And, strangely, such things
as bugs, thumpers, crickets, and CATs, but they are inclined to
change the subject when the uninitiated approaches.
They have tasted the characteristic loneliness of the sky, and occasionally
the adrenaline of danger. They respect the unseen thing called turbulence;
they know what it means to fight for self-control, to discipline one's
senses.
They buy life insurance, but make no concession to the possibility of
complete disaster, for they have uncommon faith in themselves and what they are
doing.
They concede the glamour is gone from flying. They deny a pilot is through at sixty.
They know tomorrow, or the following night, something will come
along they have never met before; they know flying requires perseverance and vigilance.
They know they must practice, lest they retrograde.
They realize why some wit once quipped: "Flying is year after year of
monotony punctuated by seconds of stark terror." As a group, they defy
mortality tables, yet approach semi-annual physical examinations with
trepidation. They are individualistic, yet bonded together. They are family
people. They are reputedly overpaid, yet entrusted with equipment worth millions.
And entrusted with lives, countless lives.
At times they are reverent: They have watched the Pacific sky turn purple at dusk
and the stark beauty of sunrise over Iceland at the end of a polar
crossing. They know the twinkling, jeweled beauty of Los Angeles at night;
they have seen snow on the Rockies.
They remember the vast unending mat of green Amazon jungle, the twisting Silver
road that is the father of waters, an ice cream cone called Fujiyama; the hump
of Africa. Who can forget Everest from 100 miles away, or the ice fog in Fairbanks
in January?
They have watched a satellite streak across a starry sky, seen the clear,
deep blue of the stratosphere, felt the incalculable force of the heavens.
They have marveled at sun-streaked evenings, dappled earth, velvet night, spun
silver clouds, sculptured cumulus: God's weather. They have viewed the Northern
Lights, a wilderness of sky, a pilot's halo, a bomber's moon, horizontal rain,
Contrails and St Elmo's Fire.
Only a pilot experiences all these.
It is their world.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26580#26580
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| Subject: | Re: SNF airshow 1 |
Yup.... it's "poop". That's OK though, it's just the laws of "supply and demand"
with our popular tough Red Star YAKs. Just grin at those guys when you're refueling
at half the rate and signing your checks for Insurance and loan payments.
-Val
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| Subject: | Re: Sean Tucker Bailout |
Regarding Sean's bailout, and Smash considering exactly what criteria would determine
giving up your own personal and expensive "baby" to the "Earth Gods"....
that's exactly what we should all be doing prior to ever getting in the airplane.
Stuff happens...and the closer you are to the ground when it does, the less time
your mind has to go through the mental processes of "What tha? Noooo this can't
be happening to me! Can I put it down? Now what was I supposed to do about
this? Is this really what's wrong? Um, what will the guys say if I bail out,
I'm not a wimp!", and "How much more do I owe on this, er...did I make my last
Insurance payment?"
You need to make the parameters of what would determine that you bail out and that
it's imperative to do so BEFORE you ever leave the ground.
Just my take on his, but I'll bet it's saved a lot of families a lot of grief.
Good on ya Smash!
- Val
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| Subject: | Re: Sean Tucker Bailout |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
How many lives does this guy have left?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26599#26599
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| Subject: | Re: Glide ratio for a Yak-50?? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Thanks Brian for agreeing with my earlier post.
S'truth mate! I had actually written this before your posting arrived in
my m'box. Regardless, it is what it is.
Brian
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| Subject: | Wiki instructions (was: CJ Main Wheel Bearing Race Removal) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Mark Jefferies-YAK UK wrote:
> *Just stick weld them out. simple. Same as you would a valve seat within the
cylinder. *
>
> * *
>
> *Brian**, wiki this pls. *
Well the whole idea behind the wiki is that *anyone* can add this
information and not just a web-guru. The idea would be that either you
or David might do it. If it depends on me to put all the information
into the wiki then I become the bottle neck. The idea is to have
something that works no matter who is around to do the work so there
will never be any bottle necks like other web resources.
If you have a step-by-step for removing the wheel bearing that would be
good to put in.
Like everything, there is a bit of a learning curve to adding something
to the wiki. It isn't hard.
Here is how I would do it:
1. Log into the wiki. (It won't let you add stuff unless you are a
registered user. That was done because some of the porno sites were
adding links to themselves in the wiki.) If you don't have a user ID on
the wiki create a new one.
2. Go to community portal and select "Nanchang CJ6A"
3. When the page comes up, select the "edit" tab at the top.
4. Scroll the editor window until you see the section on maintenance.
5. Make an entry that looks like:
====[[Changing CJ6A main gear wheel bearing races]]====
(the '====' at either end makes this a heading and the '[[' says this is
a link to another page on the wiki. The wiki will then create a new page
called 'Changing CJ6A main gear wheel bearing races'.)
6. Save the page.
7. Click on the new link.
8. You will be taken to the new, blank page where you can edit your
information.
Do it once or twice and you will see just how easy it is. Just get the
information in there and then you can make it fancy later.
For instance, if you take some pictures you can upload them and then
reference them in the body of your procedure to make it easier for
others to understand the process.
Brian Lloyd
brian HYPHEN yak AT lloyd DOT com
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| Subject: | Re: Local News video clip - Sean Tucker bailout |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Here's a good news video clip. I just wish they wouldn't use the word
> "stunt" pilot though.
> http://www.ktbs.com/news/local/2574846.html?video=YHI&t=a
It is how the rest of the world thinks of aerobatic pilots. Most people
don't know the word "aerobatic".
But the good part is that, for once, the media actually seems to have
gotten the story right.
Brian Lloyd
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| Subject: | Re: Sean Tucker Bailout |
Val Wrote:
You need to make the parameters of what would determine that you bail out and that
it's imperative to do so BEFORE you ever leave the ground.
I believe I have heard that stated at almost every Flight Safety meeting I have
attended in the squadrons!
It is true, you make the decision before you ever leave the chokes.
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: SNF airshow 1 |
Hum, I believe I am sensing a Red Air in the Springtime coming on! A Mayday in
April if you MAY!
A Red Star gather ing in Selma in spring??? Maybe so! Got 12 months to get this
worked out!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Valkyre1
Sent: 4/5/2006 9:32:55 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: SNF airshow 1
Yup.... it's "poop". That's OK though, it's just the laws of "supply and demand"
with our popular tough Red Star YAKs. Just grin at those guys when you're refueling
at half the rate and signing your checks for Insurance and loan payments.
-Val
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12 Yaks, 11 CJ's, 1 IAR823 and 1 T-34 in the form today. T-34's did NOT FLY. Things
that make you go Hmmm. Mozam was superlead, Pappy had rear group, Drew filled
a backseat. Not sure about how good we looked but com discipline was great,
no "oh shits". Air was rough, propwash nasty, skys clear. Much fun had by all.
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Tim, Dennis, Brian et al--
Here's one to try (maybe) next time you're out flying, just for fun and
training:"
You are flying along and its time to land. Problem--the throttle linkage
separates itself from the carburetor leaving the throttle stuck wide open.
Otherwise, everything is operating normally. You are near the runway. How to
get down?
This actually happened to Bud Granley a couple of years ago while he was
flying the Unlimited racer "Furias" at Reno and lapping at over 400 mph.
Nice little Hawker Sea Fury with a great big PW 4360 strapped on the front.
BTW he landed with no damage and gas in the tank and, no, he didn't just
pull the mixture, speaking of manhole covers.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
wild.blue@verizon.net
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: glide ratios |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Jerry Painter wrote:
> You are flying along and its time to land. Problem--the throttle linkage
> separates itself from the carburetor leaving the throttle stuck wide open.
> Otherwise, everything is operating normally. You are near the runway. How to
> get down?
With no throttle the M14P has four controls that will modify engine
power output (the Huosai has five):
1. the prop control;
2. the mag switch;
3. the fuel shut-off lever;
4. the primer;
5. (in the case of the Huosai) the mixture control.
The prop control and the mixture control (Huosai) are going to have
limited authority. They are not going to reduce power to the point where
you can get a descent if the throttle is wide open but they can reduce
the power so that any on-off power control will be less of a difference.
Taking a page from the book of the WW-I Neuport and other aircraft that
were powered by the Gnome rotary, you can control engine power by
switching the mags on and off. This will work and works instantly. It is
just a bit abrupt tho'.
Another possibility is to use the fuel shut off as a gross mixture
control. By positioning it between full on and full off you can
partially starve the engine of fuel and cut the power output way back.
It will be very sensitive but should give you complete control of power
from full on to full off. (Speaking of Lean of Peak operation ...)
Lastly, you can cut off the fuel with the emergency fuel shut off and
then use the primer to add a little bit of power at a time. It would
work somewhat like using the mag switch.
So you use these gross controls to get you into the ballpark from which
you can safely make a power-off descent to the runway. If you find you
are a little short you can blip in some power to get you to where you
want to be. The rest is just a power-off landing.
It will certainly be annoying but it shouldn't constitute a real emergency.
--
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | SNF Airshow Pics from Tuesday |
Slow connection, and sick.. help yourself to some pictures from yesterday.
Will post more later..
http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/Sun-n-Fun_2006/
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Kinds of a surprise, but the Bear 360/Skip Holm project now has a new owner and
the prototype is at SNF. Looks rather rough but the new owner claims that the
Yakovlev factory has been working on the kit; wind tunnel, load testing etc.
Quite roomy and has the high "yak" stick, could be a neat sport plane but at $138K
for the airframe kit, promised 9 months from now, I'm wondering how many
will make it to flying status.
Craig Payne
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