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1. 05:03 AM - Re: V530 repair (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: importing (Fraser, Gus)
3. 05:39 AM - Re: Looking for information re. I-3M/SP-91/95 (cdustercc)
4. 05:46 AM - Re: Oz Yak's (Fraser, Gus)
5. 05:53 AM - Re: Oz Yak's (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 06:09 AM - Re: Yak-9 video (David McGirt)
7. 06:09 AM - Re: Oz Yak's (David McGirt)
8. 07:00 AM - Re: Yak-9 video (Hans Oortman)
9. 08:14 AM - Re: importing (doug sapp)
10. 11:07 AM - Re: Yak-9 video (Daniel Fortin)
11. 02:15 PM - Re: Yak-9 video (Roger Kemp)
12. 02:55 PM - Parts guy is going to ARS (doug sapp)
13. 03:25 PM - Re: Oz Yak's (Lou Dakos)
14. 05:39 PM - hailing all 2 seat a/c pilots in OK (Sarah Tobin)
15. 05:39 PM - Paint Shop Blues (Craig Payne)
16. 06:09 PM - Re: Oz Yak's (Steve Newing)
17. 06:48 PM - Re: Paint Shop Blues (Terry Lewis)
18. 07:45 PM - Re: Paint Shop Blues (Roger Kemp)
19. 09:11 PM - Re: Paint Shop Blues (N13472@aol.com)
20. 11:32 PM - Official Yak-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
21. 11:40 PM - Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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I would recommend a hub overhaul. Contact Carl and Jill Hays in
Kingman, AZ. They will take care of you.
jill@m-14p.com
928-681-4400
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: PHCarter@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Yak-List: V530 repair
Thank you, everyone, for the suggestions and solutions for the V530
spanner wrench. I made/modified an available wrench per several of your
suggestions and it works great. The original problem was that one of
the blades was frozen. I had to eventually remove the hub and
disassemble on the bench to get everything unfrozen.
This problem is due to insufficient propeller maintenance in the past
and heavy rains this winter. Unfortunately, I have to store my Yak
outside. The water damage inside the hub is minimal. The only real
problem is with one of the retainer nuts. Very little rush, but the
phenolic bushing appears to have swollen and is interfering with the
blade. This prevents blade pitch motion. I have cleaned everything and
removed crust from old grease and rubbing phenolic, but the fit is still
too tight for normal / easy blade motion.
How is this repaired? Do I replace the phenolic bushing and V-seal
within the retainer nut, or replace the whole retainer nut assembly? Is
this a hub overhaul case? My propeller blades are still in reasonable
shape, so I don't need a complete overhaul. I have been careful about
marking the alignments during disassembly and am sure I can reassemble,
but I am starting to think a balancing will be required if I replace
many parts. Would appreciate any insights.
My original mechanic in the San Francisco Area has moved. Does anyone
have a suggestion for another mechanic in this area?
Preston Carter
Yak-52, N6209F
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I am just sending my old Yak 52 from the USA to Aus. Be aware that Aus has
very special import restrictions the whole aircraft needs to be steam
cleaned and the container and any wood used needs to be fumigated.
Apparently the customs guys throw a cog if they think there might be any
little fifth columnist bug-skis in the container or aircraft. Not sure how
you are going to manage that in Russia from Aus.
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Yak-List: importing
I am new to this list and am thinking of importing a yak from russia to
Australia. If anybody else is interested we could bring back a couple and
cost share the freight etc. If interested send me an email on
antdea2000@yahoo.com.au. <mailto:antdea2000@yahoo.com.au> Has
anyone else imported aircraft into Australia?
Thanks, Ant.
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color=#0000ff size=2>I am just sending my old Yak 52 from the USA to
Aus. Be aware that Aus has very special import restrictions the whole aircraft
needs to be steam cleaned and the container and any wood used needs to be
fumigated. Apparently the customs guys throw a cog if they think there might be
any little fifth columnist bug-skis in the container or aircraft. Not sure
how you are going to manage that in Russia from Aus.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Anthony
Hudacek<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
yak-list@matronics.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Yak-List:
importing<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>I am new to this list and am thinking of importing a
yak from russia to Australia. If anybody else is interested we could bring
back a couple and cost share the freight etc. If interested send me an email
on <A href="mailto:antdea2000@yahoo.com.au">antdea2000@yahoo.com.au.</A>
Has </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>anyone else imported aircraft into
Australia?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>Thanks, Ant.</FONT></DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for information re. I-3M/SP-91/95 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cdustercc" <craig@craftairservices.com>
Markus,
If you learn anything I would love to see it posted. I saw the same ad and
it looks like a heck of a deal for a "new" airplane. It loooks like the closest
thing to a Suk. or two seat Yak 55 that someone with average means could
ever hope to afford.
Craig
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31991#31991
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Well that balance is about to be changed to + 1 for the dark side,
there's
another 52 on it's way....
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Beach
Hartwigs Trucks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
There are a few yak owners but more Nanchang owners
Michael
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Are there any Australian Yak owners on this list?
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Sources have told me the U.S. is the only country where the CJ sells for
more than the Yak 52. That may be one of the reasons for the imbalance
in AU.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Well that balance is about to be changed to + 1 for the dark side,
there's another 52 on it's way....
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Beach
Hartwigs Trucks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:43 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
There are a few yak owners but more Nanchang owners
Michael
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:28 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Are there any Australian Yak owners on this list?
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360=B0: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!
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Barry was kind enough to email the video to me, I posted it on the web so
you can download if that is easier for some:
http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/VIDEOS/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Anyone still has a copy of the video showing the Yak 9 nearly pancakes it
after a split S?
I have it....you want it? Anyone else?
Barry
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Because they are not all fat like us Americans, they can actually fit in
a
52.. :-)
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Sources have told me the U.S. is the only country where the CJ sells for
more than the Yak 52. That may be one of the reasons for the imbalance
in
AU.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus <mailto:gus.fraser@gs.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Well that balance is about to be changed to + 1 for the dark side,
there's
another 52 on it's way....
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Beach
Hartwigs Trucks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
There are a few yak owners but more Nanchang owners
Michael
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Are there any Australian Yak owners on this list?
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<http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tag/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.360.yahoo.com%2F>
Your own space to share what you want with who you want!
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Whao,..he must have had his pants filled after this...
Hans
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens David McGirt
Verzonden: maandag 1 mei 2006 15:08
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
Barry was kind enough to email the video to me, I posted it on the web so
you can download if that is easier for some:
http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/VIDEOS/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Anyone still has a copy of the video showing the Yak 9 nearly pancakes it
after a split S?
I have it....you want it? Anyone else?
Barry
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Gus, it's the same way coming from China, All products with wood must be
fumigated and a original of the fumigation certificate must be with the
import docs. These are some real nasty bugs I guess.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fraser, Gus
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:38 AM
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Subject: RE: Yak-List: importing
I am just sending my old Yak 52 from the USA to Aus. Be aware that Aus has
very special import restrictions the whole aircraft needs to be steam
cleaned and the container and any wood used needs to be fumigated.
Apparently the customs guys throw a cog if they think there might be any
little fifth columnist bug-skis in the container or aircraft. Not sure how
you are going to manage that in Russia from Aus.
Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:24 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: importing
I am new to this list and am thinking of importing a yak from russia to
Australia. If anybody else is interested we could bring back a couple and
cost share the freight etc. If interested send me an email on
antdea2000@yahoo.com.au. Has
anyone else imported aircraft into Australia?
Thanks, Ant.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Actually, he did...
The pilot is a good friend of mine, and I am working with him on a little
article about the most exiting 30sec of his long aviation carrer. Look for
it in the RPA magazine...
D
>From: "Hans Oortman" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
>Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:58:18 +0200
>
>Whao,..he must have had his pants filled after this...
>
>
>Hans
>
>
> _____
>
>Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens David McGirt
>Verzonden: maandag 1 mei 2006 15:08
>Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
>Onderwerp: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
>
>
>Barry was kind enough to email the video to me, I posted it on the web so
>you can download if that is easier for some:
>
>
>http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/VIDEOS/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
>
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
>Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:06 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
>
>
>On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Anyone still has a copy of the video showing the Yak 9 nearly pancakes it
>
>after a split S?
>
>
>I have it....you want it? Anyone else?
>
>
>Barry
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Famous last words of an aviator screwing up...SHIT!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/1/2006 1:16:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Actually, he did...
>
> The pilot is a good friend of mine, and I am working with him on a little
> article about the most exiting 30sec of his long aviation carrer. Look
for
> it in the RPA magazine...
>
> D
>
>
> >From: "Hans Oortman" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
> >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:58:18 +0200
> >
> >Whao,..he must have had his pants filled after this...
> >
> >
> >
> >Hans
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens David McGirt
> >Verzonden: maandag 1 mei 2006 15:08
> >Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Onderwerp: RE: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
> >
> >
> >
> >Barry was kind enough to email the video to me, I posted it on the web so
> >you can download if that is easier for some:
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/VIDEOS/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
> >Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:06 AM
> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Yak-List: Yak-9 video
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >Anyone still has a copy of the video showing the Yak 9 nearly pancakes it
> >
> >after a split S?
> >
> >
> >
> >I have it....you want it? Anyone else?
> >
> >
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Parts guy is going to ARS |
All,
I'll be at ARS 4-7th, back in the office on the 8th weather permitting. If
you have a dire parts problem or maintenance question call me on my cell @
509-322-0616. If you call 509-826-4610 the worlds best gib will take the
information, please have part numbers when you call, they will speed things
up and assure prompt shipment when I return on the 8th.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Yak List
Subject: Yak-List: ARS V Updated Schedule - EDIT
Sorry, the first one had old dates on it....these are the correct dates.
Wednesday 5/3
Time Activity Location
1400-1830 Arrivals/In-Processing/Familiarity Rides/Staff Meetings
HQ's, Various
1500-1800 YPA FAST Groundschool Best Western
1800-1830 Tomorrow's Preview Ops tent
1900-XXX Dinner
Thursday 5/4
Time Activity Location
0900-1700 Arrivals/In-Processing HQ's
0730-0800 Breakfast Best Western
0800-0830 General Daily Brief & Stand Up Ops tent
0900-1800 FAST Formation Flight Training Skies over Porterville
1200-1300 Lunch Mess Hall
1300-1730 Flight Training Cont. Skies over Porterville
1730-1800 Carrier Landing Competition briefing Ops tent
1800-1845 Carrier Landing Competition KPTV
1900-2030 Tomorrow's Preview & Dinner Ops Tent
2030-XXX 1st Annual ARS Poker Tournament Ops Tent
Friday 5/5
Time Activity Location
0700-1800 Arrivals and In Processing HQ's
0730-0830 Breakfast Ops Tent
0800-0830 Formation Challenge Preview / General Daily Brief & Stand
Up Ops Tent
0900-0930 Intro to TACFORM Presentation Ops Tent
0900-1800 FAST Formation Flight Training Skies over Porterville
1030-1 TACFORM Flight Training Skies over Porterville
1200-1300 Lunch Mess Hall
1300-1700 Flying/Training Skies over Porterville
1600-1630 Close Air Support Demo Brief Ops Tent
1830-1900 CAS Demo KPTV
1800-2100 Cinco de Mayo BBQ on ramp with improptu fly overs Ops
Tent/Ramp
1900 Croquet Tournament
Saturday 5/6
Time Activity Location
0700-1700 Arrivals/In-Processing HQ's
0700-0800 Breakfast Ops Tent
0800-0830 General Daily Brief & Stand Up Ops Tent
0830-0900 Formation Challenge Brief (flight leads required) Ops Tent
0900-1800 FAST Training Sorties/Check rides Skies over Porterville
0930-1000 Morning Missing Man Brief (see Postal if you'd like to
participate) Briefing Tent A
1000-1030 Missing Man for KPTV dedication ceremony KPTV
1200-1300 Lunch Mess Hall
1230-1530 Flight Line Seminars Ops Tent
1500-1600 4th Annual Formation Challenge Skies over Porterville
1815-1845 Missing Man formation briefing Briefing Tent A
1900 Missing Man formation KPTV
1900-2200 Awards Ceremony/Banquet/Raffle Ops Tent
Sunday 5/7
Time Activity Location
0800-0830 Breakfast Ops Tent
0830-1000 RPA/ARS Roundtable discussions Ops Tent
1000-??? Volunteer rides/Flying/Departures Ramp
1200-1500 Lunch/Departure/CleanUp Ramp
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No we just know a better plane when we see it.
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: David McGirt
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Because they are not all fat like us Americans, they can actually fit
in a 52.. J
-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:53 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Sources have told me the U.S. is the only country where the CJ sells
for more than the Yak 52. That may be one of the reasons for the
imbalance in AU.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Well that balance is about to be changed to + 1 for the dark side,
there's another 52 on it's way....
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Beach
Hartwigs Trucks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:43 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
There are a few yak owners but more Nanchang owners
Michael
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:28 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Are there any Australian Yak owners on this list?
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| Subject: | hailing all 2 seat a/c pilots in OK |
So, since my tragedy, many sweet guys have come forth with help in the form of
borrowing their a/c, buying their props, other 55s for sale, etc etc. Thanks
to all for that.
Since it looks like I will be waiting for awhile for the decision of the insurance
company....I am wing-less
I have some dear friends in CO that will let me fly their SU29s and Extra 300Ls
in the mean time, but no practice time between now and the competitions they
will be at with me.
So, that leads me to my question....is there anyone, anywhere within 3 hours
driving distance of OKC that will let me buy flying time off of them to do some
light (sportsman style) acro in their 52 or CJ or anything but a pitts! :)
I just need to get up and pull some Gs and burn off some frustrations over my
a/c being targeted.
Of course I don't expect to fly solo in your a/c, so you will have to be a good
"safety pilot" :)
Email me off list if this is something you would be willing to do, thanks in
advance!
Smash
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| Subject: | Paint Shop Blues |
Visited a local paint shop today for a quote. I do the dis-assembly/re-assembly,
stripping is done already. Quote was $9500 for 9 layer base coat/clear coat.
My knees got weak and I had to grab the pitot tube for support.
The shop owner whipped out pics of the big-iron warbirds and big names he has painted
for. Suddenly I felt a communication gap. My line was that this ain't no
historic treasure, nobody will ever hand a Commie airplane Best Warbird and
I'm just a poor boy. Message lost in translation.
I'd like to hear about some alternatives and other experiences, I'm willing to
travel if value is there. Good automotive paint will do just fine. This ain't
no P-51.
Craig Payne
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In oz
27 yak 52's
35 CJ6 and rising
Yes we do know a better plane when we see one
Steve Newing
----- Original Message -----
From: Lou Dakos
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
No we just know a better plane when we see it.
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: David McGirt
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Because they are not all fat like us Americans, they can actually
fit in a 52.. J
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:53 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Sources have told me the U.S. is the only country where the CJ sells
for more than the Yak 52. That may be one of the reasons for the
imbalance in AU.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Fraser, Gus
To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Well that balance is about to be changed to + 1 for the dark side,
there's another 52 on it's way....
Gus
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Beach
Hartwigs Trucks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:43 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
There are a few yak owners but more Nanchang owners
Michael
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:28 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Oz Yak's
Are there any Australian Yak owners on this list?
360=B0: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Shop Blues |
Crieg,
I had my airplane painted at Arcadia for 5K and the controls redone for
2k. Gary Pope used the same facility and seemed to be satisfied. Like
you, I had stripped my plane and then removed the control surfaces at
their facility, and then reinstalled them after they finished, I also
did all of the colored trim later at home after they had finished. I
used PPG uruthane single coat (easy to touch up) and it has no cracks
on the control surfaces after 4 years.
If you want their number contact me off list, it's in my hangar.
Terry Lewis
Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Paint Shop Blues
Visited a local paint shop today for a quote. I do the
dis-assembly/re-assembly, stripping is done already. Quote was $9500 for
9 layer base coat/clear coat. My knees got weak and I had to grab the
pitot tube for support.
The shop owner whipped out pics of the big-iron warbirds and big names
he has painted for. Suddenly I felt a communication gap. My line was
that this ain't no historic treasure, nobody will ever hand a Commie
airplane Best Warbird and I'm just a poor boy. Message lost in
translation.
I'd like to hear about some alternatives and other experiences, I'm
willing to travel if value is there. Good automotive paint will do just
fine. This ain't no P-51.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Paint Shop Blues |
Craig,
Tri D at Wetumpka, Al (08A). 334-285-5456. Richard does good work. He is over extended
because of his popularity/quality. He will test your patience but he is
reasonable. Talk to Dav Harcort about his work. He had his YAK done by him.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
Sent: 5/1/2006 7:45:53 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Paint Shop Blues
Visited a local paint shop today for a quote. I do the dis-assembly/re-assembly,
stripping is done already. Quote was $9500 for 9 layer base coat/clear coat.
My knees got weak and I had to grab the pitot tube for support.
The shop owner whipped out pics of the big-iron warbirds and big names he has painted
for. Suddenly I felt a communication gap. My line was that this ain't no
historic treasure, nobody will ever hand a Commie airplane Best Warbird and
I'm just a poor boy. Message lost in translation.
I'd like to hear about some alternatives and other experiences, I'm willing to
travel if value is there. Good automotive paint will do just fine. This ain't
no P-51.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Shop Blues |
In a message dated 5/1/2006 5:40:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cpayne@joimail.com writes:
Visited a local paint shop today for a quote. I do the
dis-assembly/re-assembly, stripping is done already. Quote was $9500 for 9 layer
base coat/clear
coat. My knees got weak and I had to grab the pitot tube for support.
Craig, from my resent experience $9500 for that type paint job sounds like
a good price.
a recent quote out here on the west coast area for a good three color and
clear coat was
12K
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 NX63727
Sandy Valley NV
3L2
702-723-1223
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Yak-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Yak-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Yak-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Yak-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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