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1. 12:32 AM - shock load (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
2. 04:57 AM - Re: shock load (Michael Bolton)
3. 04:58 AM - Re: Fairhope AL (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 04:59 AM - Re: Re: Fairhope AL (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: Fairhope AL (Jay Land)
6. 06:12 AM - Re: Fairhope AL (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 08:38 AM - Ground-strikes and M14P Engines (Richard Goode)
8. 12:17 PM - Matronics BBS Forums (Matt Dralle)
9. 10:31 PM - Re: OV protection module (N13472@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
The procedure is a full strip and crack check. Same as Lycoming in certified
a/c. But on experimental who follows the correct procedure when it costs
money? Even when insurance is paying strangely people like to cut corners,
why?
If anyone is interested I have the supporting papers for the above statement
from Russia.
Regards, mj
Time: 08:20:37 PM PST US
From: "John Unangst" <unangst@hasletwireless.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Engine inspection after prop strike
What is the correct inspection or procedure for the M-14P to put it back
in service after a ground strike which was on a Yak 52 which had a
whirlwind prop?
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Michael Bolton" <mjbjhf@charter.net>
I would appreciate a copy of those documents Mark.
MJBJHF@charter.net
Does anyone have the same papers on the Housai?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:31 AM
Subject: Yak-List: shock load
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
>
> The procedure is a full strip and crack check. Same as Lycoming in
> certified
> a/c. But on experimental who follows the correct procedure when it costs
> money? Even when insurance is paying strangely people like to cut corners,
> why?
>
>
> If anyone is interested I have the supporting papers for the above
> statement
> from Russia.
>
>
> Regards, mj
>
>
> Time: 08:20:37 PM PST US
>
> From: "John Unangst" <unangst@hasletwireless.net>
>
> Subject: Yak-List: Engine inspection after prop strike
>
>
> What is the correct inspection or procedure for the M-14P to put it back
>
> in service after a ground strike which was on a Yak 52 which had a
>
> whirlwind prop?
>
>
>
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Re: Yak-List: Fairhope ALDo you want email or street addresses?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
Denni s
Could you get us the names and addresses for some of the key
organizers? &n bsp;We'd like to send them some thank you notes.
Thanks,
Jay
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From: "A. Dennis Savarese " <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:25:48 -0500
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
Thanks Jay. It was great to have you and Alex at Fairhope. I sp oke
to the chairman of the planning committee and he told me to tell everyon
e that next year will be a TWO DAY event and even better than this year!
&nb sp;I am already looking forward to it.
Best regards,
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land <mailto:jla nd@popeandland.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
[LashBack]
Wow- Those who went to the Fairhope Flyin today will agree it was
the best flyin they ever attended.
Absolutely outstanding with 2 L39's and 14 or so Yaks and CJ's.
Military hardware and Biplanes. Gas trucks galore and plenty of flying.
Hats off to Dennis and Ray for inviting us!
Jay and Alex Land
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Hail, Gabby!!!!!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Fairhope AL
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>
> Actually, Alex "Gabby" Land gets the Lady's man award from Fairhope!
>
> http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/jland/IMG_5042.jpg
>
>
> All hail Gabby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:39 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fairhope AL
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Ok just to set the story straight!!!! I wasnt the only guy that was driven
> around to the bars.....and home by the police, Dick Langer and a few of
> our
> Marines were also present, and as as of last count on my way to the
> airport
> this morning the Cobra pilot was still MIA!.... This was the best event I
> ever attended!!!!!!
>
> Ok I'm now out of character by posting on this list but my hat is off to
> Dennis and Ray for this great event, any replies will not seen by me since
> I
> do not subscribe to this list any longer. but I knew that people that I
> like
> do :)
>
> Ernie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35706#35706
>
>
>
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How about the old fashioned way- street addresses
J
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
Do you want email or street addresses?
Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jay Land <mailto:jland@popeandland.com>
>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:50 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
>
>
> Denni s
>
> Could you get us the names and addresses for some of the key organizers?
&n
> bsp;We=B9d like to send them some thank you notes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese " <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>Reply-To:
> <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:25:48 -0500
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
>
> Thanks Jay. It was great to have you and Alex at Fairhope. I sp oke to
the
> chairman of the planning committee and he told me to tell everyon e that
next
> year will be a TWO DAY event and even better than this year! &nb sp;I am
> already looking forward to it.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Jay Land <mailto:jla nd@popeandland.com> <ailto:jland@popeandland.
com">
>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:33 PM
>>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
>> [LashBack]
>>
>> Wow- Those who went to the Fairhope Flyin today will agree it was the be
st
>> flyin they ever attended.
>>
>> Absolutely outstanding with 2 L39=B9s and 14 or so Yaks and CJ=B9s. Militar
y
>> hardware and Biplanes. Gas trucks galore and plenty of flying.
>>
>> Hats off to Dennis and Ray for inviting us!
>>
>> Jay and Alex Land
>
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Re: Yak-List: Fairhope ALOK. I'll get them.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
How a bout the old fashioned way- street addresses
J
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From: "A. Dennis Savarese " <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:58:29 -0500
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
[LashBack]
Do you want email or street addresses?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land <mailto:jla nd@popeandland.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
[LashBack]
Denni s
Could you get us the names and addresses for some of the key
organizers? &a mp;n bsp;We'd like to send them some thank you notes.
Thanks,
Jay
---
<yak-list@matronics .com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:25:48 -0500
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
[LashBack]
Thanks Jay. It was great to have you and Alex at Fairhope. I sp
oke to the chairman of the planning committee and he told me to tell
everyo n e that next year will be a TWO DAY event and even better than
this year! & amp;nb sp;I am already looking forward to it.
Best regards,
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Land <mailto:jl a nd@popeandland.com>
<ailto:jland@popeandland.com"> ;
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Fairhope AL
[LashBack] [LashBack]
Wow- Those who went to the Fairhope Flyin today will agree it was
the best flyin they ever attended.
Absolutely outstanding with 2 L39's and 14 or so Yaks and CJ's.
Military hardware and Biplanes. Gas trucks galore and plenty of flying.
Hats off to Dennis and Ray for inviting us!
Jay and Alex Land
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| Subject: | Ground-strikes and M14P Engines |
We are concerned that some pilots, following a ground-strike with an M14P,
simply change the propeller and continue to go on flying.=0A
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There are several areas where the M14P can suffer in a ground-strike:=0A
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The satellite gears in the gearbox are small and can crack with the shock-l
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The crankshaft is pinned together and a shock can move the separate parts o
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The supercharger assembly is turning at over eight times engine speed and e
ven at idle has significant inertia.=0A
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Like all western engines, the manufacturers of the M14P issue STRICT instru
ctions that ANY ground-strike must result in an engine removal; strip-down
and check.=0A
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We had a Sukhoi customer who had a significant ground-strike, but at idle;
changed the prop, and about 10-hours flying later one of the satellite gear
s broke up, and the engine locked solid. Fortunately he was taxiing in aft
er an aerobatic sequence. Had it happened a minute earlier the engine wou
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There is a degree of discretion which an owner can use, but obviously at hi
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Our personal view is that any ground-strike should have at LEAST the gearbo
x removed; stripped and crack-tested. If the ground-strike has been mild;
and the engine not stopped on impact, AND there is no gearbox damage, the e
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| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: OV protection module |
Brain, when/how did you send the unit? Not here yet.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 NX63727
Sandy Valley NV
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702-723-1223
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