---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/12/06: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:37 AM - icing (Mark Jefferies YAK UK) 2. 04:56 AM - Re: icing (Tim Gagnon) 3. 10:32 AM - M14R etc (Richard Goode) 4. 12:08 PM - Re: M14R etc (ROBERT SCHWARTZ) 5. 12:51 PM - Re: M14R etc (Roger Kemp) 6. 02:35 PM - Fw: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] (FamilyGage@aol.com) 7. 02:59 PM - Re: 1985 Yak 50 for Sale (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 8. 03:14 PM - Fw: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] (FamilyGage@aol.com) 9. 05:09 PM - Re: M14R etc (John W. Hilterman Jr.) 10. 09:38 PM - 4 Hangars available to purchase in California (Frank Haertlein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:25 AM PST US From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" Subject: Yak-List: icing --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" Yes the M14 will ICE, but probably not if you live in a hot climate!! :-) Yak 55 iced on approach and undershot turning upside down in UK, that was the worst case I believe.. I've had icing on approach many times, it does not take long at all. Throttle freezes shut. I'm my cases it was mechanical overcome. Warming up on the ground is another gotcha, engine stops and you wonder why as you can start it again immediately! So, if your anywhere near +3-5'c and humidity you will 100% get ice in my 16 yrs experience on the M14 and 200,000 miles flight experience. So, fit the carb heat ears or risk the consequences...You find many a/c have had them removed for cracking. Y50 & 55 were contest a/c so being flown in the summer did not get them fitted. Br, mark ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:10 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: icing From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > Warming up > on the ground is another gotcha, engine stops and you wonder why as you can > start it again immediately! > Warming engine up for compression checks, Saturday, mid-50's, 100% humidity, light rain, advanced throttle to pull into hangar....sudden silence. NEVER HAS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE. Mechanic thought the engine swallowed something. "Great!!!" followed by "SHIT!" Called a friend for some advice, first thing out of his mouth was carb ice. (he had it before as well). Ok, I will buy that. 30 minutes later and it started right up! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=40084#40084 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:45 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc To follow on from Jerry Painter=92s posting about M14R, and to clarify:=0A =0A =0A =0A We have the somewhat Russian position of having two higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with rather different designs. =0A =0A =0A =0A The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp.=0A =0A =0A =0A The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of engines but does nee d careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some aircraft changes.=0A =0A =0A =0A We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with Airflow fuel injectio n, and giving very good results. We would estimate at least 480-hp with th e M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26.=0A =0A =0A =0A The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably more before producti on standard is established.=0A =0A =0A =0A If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact us.=0A =0A =0A =0A Richard Goode=0A =0A Richard Goode Aerobatics=0A Rhodds Farm=0A Lyonshall=0A Herefordshire=0A HR5 3LW=0A United Kingdom=0A =0A Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120=0A Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389=0A Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129=0A www.russianaeros.com=0A =0A --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --=0A This message has been scanned for viruses and=0A dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com=0A MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --=0A =0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:20 PM PST US From: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc Hello: Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve the cruise performance on a standard YAK 52? Robert E. Schwartz President THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST Commercial Real Estate Services 2406 East Pleasant Street Davenport, Iowa USA 52803 Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600 Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the content of this information is strictly prohibited. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode To: YAK USA LIST Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc To follow on from Jerry Painter=92s posting about M14R, and to clarify: We have the somewhat Russian position of having two higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with rather different designs. The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp. The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of engines but does need careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some aircraft changes. We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with Airflow fuel injection, and giving very good results. We would estimate at least 480-hp with the M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26. The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably more before production standard is established. If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact us. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:23 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc Robert, Get a 50. They are slicker than greased owl #$^%. You'll get 20 to 30 clicks faster cruise at Nominal 1 or 2 burning 11 - 12 gallons/ hour. And they climb like home sick angles. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ Sent: 6/12/2006 2:15:11 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc Hello: Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve the cruise performance on a standard YAK 52? Robert E. Schwartz President THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST Commercial Real Estate Services 2406 East Pleasant Street Davenport, Iowa USA 52803 Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600 Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the content of this information is strictly prohibited. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc To follow on from Jerry Painters posting about M14R, and to clarify: We have the somewhat Russian position of having two higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with rather different designs. The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp. The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of engines but does need careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some aircraft changes. We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with Airflow fuel injection, and giving very good results. We would estimate at least 480-hp with the M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26. The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably more before production standard is established. If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact us. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:25 PM PST US From: FamilyGage@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] Return-Path: Received: from rly-xm01.mx.aol.com (rly-xm01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.102]) by air-xm01.mail.aol.com (v109.13) with ESMTP id MAILINXM14-5e7448d7a65288; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:30:20 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.136]) by rly-xm01.mx.aol.com (v109.13) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM11-5e7448d7a65288; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:29:58 -0400 Received: from ONLY (194-84.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com [68.202.84.194]) by ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5CEST7d026222; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dick Russell" Subject: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-AOL-IP: 65.32.5.136 ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys and Gals, Phabulous Phlying Photos of da Russkies. 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Hi Guys and Gals,
Phabulous Phlying Photos of da Russkies.
 
Len
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70-- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:08 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: 1985 Yak 50 for Sale From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" What really hurts is Hitman selling his for $75K Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Francis Butler Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 18:53 Subject: Yak-List: 1985 Yak 50 for Sale --> Yak-List message posted by: Francis Butler Friendly Reminder Nice 1985 Yak 50 for sale. Have taken delivery of an Extra 300L. Will sell Yak to good home. Many extras included with sale. Can deliver aircraft and everything that goes with it. Located Fargo ND. Come take a look. See link for all the details http://homepage.mac.com/francisbutler/ Francis Butler 701 239-4532 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:39 PM PST US From: FamilyGage@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] Return-path: From: FamilyGage@aol.com Full-name: FamilyGage Subject: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_4a6.21b1ac6.31bf379b_boundary" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5319 --part2_4a6.21b1ac6.31bf379b_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1150147994" -------------------------------1150147994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------------------------------1150147994 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 -------------------------------1150147994-- --part2_4a6.21b1ac6.31bf379b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xm01.mx.aol.com (rly-xm01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.102]) by air-xm01.mail.aol.com (v109.13) with ESMTP id MAILINXM14-5e7448d7a65288; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:30:20 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.136]) by rly-xm01.mx.aol.com (v109.13) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM11-5e7448d7a65288; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:29:58 -0400 Received: from ONLY (194-84.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com [68.202.84.194]) by ms-smtp-06.tampabay.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5CEST7d026222; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dick Russell" Subject: Fw: Fw: Russian Air show] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-AOL-IP: 65.32.5.136 ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys and Gals, Phabulous Phlying Photos of da Russkies. Len http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Maks2005/Highlights/ ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi Guys and Gals,
Phabulous Phlying Photos of da Russkies.
 
Len
 
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Maks2005/Highlights/
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C68E0A.F5573C70-- --part2_4a6.21b1ac6.31bf379b_boundary-- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:43 PM PST US From: "John W. Hilterman Jr." Subject: RE: Yak-List: M14R etc And I have one for sale. Immaculate 1984 YAK-50 listed on Barnstormers and Trade-a-Plane. Hitman _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc Robert, Get a 50. They are slicker than greased owl #$^%. You'll get 20 to 30 clicks faster cruise at Nominal 1 or 2 burning 11 - 12 gallons/ hour. And they climb like home sick angles. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ Sent: 6/12/2006 2:15:11 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc Hello: Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve the cruise performance on a standard YAK 52? Robert E. Schwartz President THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST Commercial Real Estate Services 2406 East Pleasant Street Davenport, Iowa USA 52803 Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600 Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the content of this information is strictly prohibited. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc To follow on from Jerry Painter=12s posting about M14R, and to clarify: We have the somewhat Russian position of having two higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with rather different designs. The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp. The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of engines but does need careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some aircraft changes. We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with Airflow fuel injection, and giving very good results. We would estimate at least 480-hp with the M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26. The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably more before production standard is established. If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact us. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- - This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- - ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:35 PM PST US From: Frank Haertlein Subject: Yak-List: 4 Hangars available to purchase in California --> Yak-List message posted by: Frank Haertlein Yakkers; A one time deal for anyone interested.......... 4 Hangars are currently available at California City Airport. I'm currently occupying one of them and am looking for a partner to purchase the lease (70K). The 4 hangars (40' X 30' each) come with 7 acres of land which is open for any improvements (i.e. building more hangars to rent). Lease terms with airport are $487/mo for 7 acres of land with the existing 4 hangars included. Lease ownership provides a 30 year lease with 5 year option. All hangars currently occupied and generating income. Transfer of lease requires negotiation of new lease terms with an accommodating airport management. Property has electrical service and water. Call if interested...... Frank 760-784-0818