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1. 03:36 AM - Re: M14R (Russ aka Duncan)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: M14R etc (Craig Payne)
3. 08:15 AM - Yak 50 vs Yak 55M which one is better ??????????? (Mark Schrick)
4. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: M14R etc (Jim)
5. 09:04 AM - YAK 52 (Flying For Jesus)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: M14R etc (fish@aviation-tech.com)
7. 09:19 AM - Ramona California Air show (Mark Weidhaas)
8. 10:07 AM - M-14P Generator Brushes (Mike Bell)
9. 10:21 AM - Re: M-14P Generator Brushes (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
10. 10:26 AM - Yak-52 Schels Aux Tank Filter (Mike Bell)
11. 10:29 AM - Re: M-14P Generator Brushes (doug sapp)
12. 11:06 AM - Re: 18T (Buzzard Aviation)
13. 11:19 AM - Trio in 52TW - Autopilot is installed (David McGirt)
14. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: 18T (Roger Kemp)
15. 11:33 PM - Yak 50 vs Yak 55M which one is better ??????????? (Mark Schrick)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com>
Doc, Homesick angels? I have not heard that one for quite awhile!
Russ "airBoss" Witte-Dycus
p.s.
I'll be at MTW/OSH how about all of you?
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>
>Hello:
>
>Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve the
>cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
>
>
>Robert E. Schwartz
>
Robert, it has been reported that the Yak-18T gains performance from this engine
by allowing a higher altitude cruise, should work for the -52, just add O2 .
OTOH, the -TD conversion, a tailwind and a downhill glideslope are the only
other known ways to speed up a Yak-52. Perhaps a gaggle of Geese hitched to each
wingtip :>)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Yak 50 vs Yak 55M which one is better ??????????? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Hitman,
Are you ready to trade that Yak 50 for my light Yak 55M I have for sale?
It's a steal..........
SHREK
(408) 391-6664
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hilterman
Jr.
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: M14R etc
And I have one for sale. Immaculate 1984 YAK-50 listed on Barnstormers and
Trade-a-Plane.
Hitman
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc
Robert,
Get a 50. They are slicker than greased owl #$^%. You'll get 20 to 30 clicks
faster cruise at Nominal 1 or 2 burning 11 - 12 gallons/ hour. And they
climb like home sick angles.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ <mailto:schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: 6/12/2006 2:15:11 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc
Hello:
Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve
the cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
Robert E. Schwartz
President
THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
Commercial Real Estate Services
2406 East Pleasant Street
Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
This information is intended for the use of individual named above.
If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
To: YAK USA LIST <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc
To follow on from Jerry Painters posting about M14R, and to
clarify:
We have the somewhat Russian position of having two
higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with
rather different designs.
The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp.
The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of
engines but does need careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there
are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an
electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some
aircraft changes.
We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with
Airflow fuel injection, and giving very good results. We would estimate at
least 480-hp with the M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26.
The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel
injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably
more before production standard is established.
If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact
us.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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A rocket engine would not help the Cruise on the 52.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:56 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14R etc
>
>Hello:
>
>Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve
the
>cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
>
>
>Robert E. Schwartz
>
Robert, it has been reported that the Yak-18T gains performance from
this engine by allowing a higher altitude cruise, should work for the
-52, just add O2 . OTOH, the -TD conversion, a tailwind and a downhill
glideslope are the only other known ways to speed up a Yak-52. Perhaps
a gaggle of Geese hitched to each wingtip :>)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Flying For Jesus <flying@nethere.com>
> We have a YAK 52 with ALL of the goodies, always hangared, 50 1/2
> hours on engine and airframe, basically a new plane for only 80k and
> the proceeds will go to a nonprofit to do missionary flying in East
> Africa. In reading the emails I am wondering if a 52 is what YAK
> people want. Any comments?
>
> Marian
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com
Jim,
I would like to disagreee, the F-4 proved with enough power even a brick can
fly!
With a rocket you would gain a large cruise advantage, for a short time.
About a month after completing AF Flight Engineer School for C-130, I got a
ride on the Blue Angeles C-130 (Fat Albert). I was on the flight deck when they
lit off their JATO bottles. The C-130 gained the most perf I had seen in a C-130
yet, and then went on to do things I did not beleive the 130 could do.
I am glad that I had that opertunity to fly a C-130 that way before deploying
to Qutar to fly combat missions. When we made our first landing at bagdad international
airport, it was like I was back on Fat Albert, only this time I was the Engineer
responsiable for the aircraft.
Fly Safe
John Fischer
>
>
>A rocket engine would not help the Cruise on the 52.
>Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Craig Payne
> To: yak-list
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:56 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14R etc
>
>
> >
> >Hello:
> >
> >Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve >the
> >cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
> >
> >
> >Robert E. Schwartz
> >
>
> Robert, it has been reported that the Yak-18T gains performance from >this
engine by allowing a higher altitude cruise, should work for the >-52, just
add O2 . OTOH, the -TD conversion, a tailwind and a downhill >glideslope are
the only other known ways to speed up a Yak-52. Perhaps >a gaggle of Geese hitched
to each wingtip :>)
>
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Ramona California Air show |
Hello Yak List!!!!
Mark your calendars June 24 and 25th for this years Ramona Air show.
We
have sponsored Bud and Ross Granley to perform during the two day event.
Their performance was stellar at Red Star IV and a must see for all Yak
drivers. Here are the links to the Granley=92s and Ramona Air show
websites.
Yak and CJ static displays also welcome.
HYPERLINK
"http://hometown.aol.com/cobra1444/myhomepage/profile.html"http://hometow
n.a
ol.com/cobra1444/myhomepage/profile.html
HYPERLINK "http://www.ramonaairshow.com/"http://www.ramonaairshow.com/
Mark J. Weidhaas, Yak 52 =9336=94
Alternative Solar Products, Inc.
27412 Enterprise Circle West, #101
Temecula, CA 92590
Phone (951) 308-2366
Fax (951) 694-1458
HYPERLINK "mailto:mark@alternativesolar.com"mark@alternativesolar.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.alternativesolar.com/"www.alternativesolar.com
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| Subject: | M-14P Generator Brushes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
The generator brushes on my Yak-52 are almost worn enough to replace. The M-14
manual says to not replace them without removing the generator. It looks like
there's barely enough room to get in there without removing the generator. Anybody
have experience with this?
Also, is there any particular break-in required after brush replacement?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=40733#40733
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| Subject: | M-14P Generator Brushes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I can tell you that pulling the generator out is a piece of cake. Do not unbolt
it from the adapter plate (6 nuts) ... remove the generator and the adapter
plate as one piece. (4 nuts) Will take you about 30 minutes or LESS. As far
as break-in goes, as long as you can spin the generator shaft and the brushes
remain in one piece.. you're good to go. "Break-In" (per se) happens in the first
few seconds after engine start.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Bell
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 13:07
Subject: Yak-List: M-14P Generator Brushes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
The generator brushes on my Yak-52 are almost worn enough to replace. The M-14
manual says to not replace them without removing the generator. It looks like
there's barely enough room to get in there without removing the generator. Anybody
have experience with this?
Also, is there any particular break-in required after brush replacement?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=40733#40733
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| Subject: | Yak-52 Schels Aux Tank Filter |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
I'm replacing all the hoses in my Yak and came across a filter in the aux tank
system, threaded on one end and a nipple on the other end. Does anybody have
a part number or source for them? Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=40738#40738
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| Subject: | M-14P Generator Brushes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Mike,
After you replace the brushes could you please ship me one of the old
brushes so I can compare it to my stock of 285 hp HS6A generator brushes?
Maybe enclose it with your hoses when you send them to me. Sorry but I
cannot shed any light on the installation as I have never done one myself.
Many thanks.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Bell
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Yak-List: M-14P Generator Brushes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
The generator brushes on my Yak-52 are almost worn enough to replace. The
M-14 manual says to not replace them without removing the generator. It
looks like there's barely enough room to get in there without removing the
generator. Anybody have experience with this?
Also, is there any particular break-in required after brush replacement?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=40733#40733
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| Subject: | Trio in 52TW - Autopilot is installed |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
Well,
With A LOT of help from Tim Williams, the Trio Autopilot is installed. He
made a custom bracket to mount the servo to, and a custom bracket, to mount
to the control arm.. other than that, it was plug in play.. :)
The unit is in, and works great.. I put a toggle switch to switch the
sources from the Garmin 396 to the in panel Garmin 250XL, that will give
some flexibility.. but so far, very happy with the unit.
I also installed the Dynon remote compass in the tail, to go with the D10A.
I will run the calibration on that when I get a chance and a compass rose on
the ground, but it looks like it will be much better already..
Here are some pics..
http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/dmcgirt/AutoPilot_Dynon_Install/
David McGirt
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Hey, with enough thrust rocks will fly....fast too! Look at the F-4! Ol' Double
Ugly would go like a raped ape until the fires went out. Then she had the glide
ratio of a boulder!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Buzzard Aviation
Sent: 6/13/2006 1:13:00 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: 18T
At 16:39 13/06/2006, you wrote:
A rocket engine would not help the Cruise on the 52.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:56 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14R etc
>
>Hello:
>
>Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve the
>cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
>
>
>Robert E. Schwartz
>
Robert, it has been reported that the Yak-18T gains performance from this engine
by allowing a higher altitude cruise, should work for the -52, just add O2 .
OTOH, the -TD conversion, a tailwind and a downhill glideslope are the only
other known ways to speed up a Yak-52. Perhaps a gaggle of Geese hitched to each
wingtip :>)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
Hi troops. Re there any 18T's in the US. I haven't seen pics of any but though
I might have seen one in the back of a video there at some point. Would like to
know if there are and get some photos. Do they run on the EXPERIMENTAL category
too.
Do love that MENTAL is in that word :-D
Happy Landings
____|____
\O/
o'o Martin Robinson
Auster AOP 9 G-BKVK (WZ662)
Yak 18T HA-YAV
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| Subject: | Yak 50 vs Yak 55M which one is better ??????????? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Hitman,
Are you ready to trade that Yak 50 for my light Yak 55M I have for sale?
It's a steal..........
SHREK
(408) 391-6664
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hilterman
Jr.
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: M14R etc
And I have one for sale. Immaculate 1984 YAK-50 listed on Barnstormers and
Trade-a-Plane.
Hitman
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc
Robert,
Get a 50. They are slicker than greased owl #$^%. You'll get 20 to 30 clicks
faster cruise at Nominal 1 or 2 burning 11 - 12 gallons/ hour. And they
climb like home sick angles.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ <mailto:schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: 6/12/2006 2:15:11 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14R etc
Hello:
Do any of these new Russian M14 engines with the higher HP, improve
the cruise performance on a standard YAK 52?
Robert E. Schwartz
President
THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
Commercial Real Estate Services
2406 East Pleasant Street
Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
Tel: (563) 322-2228 Fax: (563) 359-7769 Cell: (563) 940-8600
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
This information is intended for the use of individual named above.
If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance
on the content of this information is strictly prohibited.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
To: YAK USA LIST <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Yak-List: M14R etc
To follow on from Jerry Painters posting about M14R, and to
clarify:
We have the somewhat Russian position of having two
higher-powered engines being made in the same city in Russia, but with
rather different designs.
The M14R is carburetted and gives 450-hp.
The US Airflow system works well on the M14P family of
engines but does need careful setting up to operate efficiently. Also there
are complications in terms of needing a higher-powered fuel pump; an
electrical fuel pump for starting and for emergency use, as well as some
aircraft changes.
We have run one M14PF (400-hp), and also an M14R with
Airflow fuel injection, and giving very good results. We would estimate at
least 480-hp with the M14R, and quite astounding rate of climb in an Su-26.
The M9F delivers 435-hp in carburetted form. The fuel
injection version is not in production, but is giving 450-hp, and probably
more before production standard is established.
If anyone wants more information on these engines do contact
us.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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