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1. 12:46 AM - brakes (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
2. 04:49 AM - Re: Solenoid (Chanock Richka)
3. 07:05 AM - Re: CJ6 in Miami (Valkyre1)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Formation MidAir (Valkyre1)
5. 09:08 AM - Re: Formation MidAir (Flying For Jesus)
6. 11:11 AM - Re: Timing help needed! (Coffey, John)
7. 12:52 PM - Turbine/Radials (Lance Robb)
8. 08:46 PM - Re: Turbine/Radials (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
9. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: M-14P Generator Brushes (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
10. 09:06 PM - (no subject) (Vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
11. 09:23 PM - Re: Turbine/Radials (Roger Kemp)
12. 09:54 PM - Re: Turbine/Radials (Frank Haertlein)
13. 10:36 PM - Spark Plugs for Sale (Vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
We have brake pads made in Germany, non asbestoses and don't fade as quickly
(but do fade with heat) Been using them for 8 years or more now. We also do
an oversize version if you have a worn drum or need to have the drum skimmed
to remove all those ridges!
Regards, Mark Jefferies
Time:
04:27:11 PM PST US
"Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
brakes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
I'm in need for a set of brakes and liners for a 1996 Yak-52. George
Coy said on
back order for a year. Any one know where I can get them?? Also I
understand
there are metal brakes that can be substituted...... Can anyone help
there???
thanks
Wheels N42SW
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Chanock Richka" <crichka@hotmail.com>
Hi Jay,
You can find it at any refrigeration supply house,made by Alco or Sporlan.
Chanock
Born to fly, Forced to work
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 in Miami |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
Hank,
I've been chatting with your buddy Med re: CJs for the last month or so and brought
him some data on his way through SLC after he looked at one in Idaho last
week. To all, ...Med is a fine gentleman with an extraordinary history. Like
us, he started out in aviation hanging on airport fences and washing aircraft.
He is also a very accomplished aviation artist. If you're lucky you will be able
to enjoy his work yourselves some day.
Welcome aboard to both of you from all of us and "good hunting" Hank. - Valkyrie
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| Subject: | Re: Formation MidAir |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
-Deepest condolences to the Good family, Blackhawk Squadron and our RV family.
Even the best of us make mistakes, or the variables run too quick and exceed the
ability to recover. We are grateful for Pappys skill and the fact that he is
still with us. - V
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| Subject: | Re: Formation MidAir |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Flying For Jesus <flying@nethere.com>
We extend our deepest regrets to the family of Chris Good. Yes, this
is a terrible tragedy and those closest to him will greatly miss
him. Loss of life is part of life and never welcoming but for the
"believer" who will fly without man made wings. Thank God that only
one pilot was lost.
Marian and Joe
Flying For Jesus
flying@nethere.com
www.flyingforjesus.org
"...but those who wait on the Lord shall regain new strength. They
will mount up with wings like eagles; they will run and not get
tired, they will walk and not become weary." isa. 40:31 NKJV
On Jun 19, 2006, at 6:01 AM, Jeff Linebaugh wrote:
> Off the RV-List:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/18/2006 5:20:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rsaltsman@hotmail.com writes:
>
> With deep sadness I report that Chris Good, fellow RVator and
> member of
> the Blackhawk Formation Squadron was killed today in a mid-air
> collision over Peru, Illinois. The second pilot, Bill "Pappy' Turner
> was able to land his plane safely and without apparent injury even
> though his RV was severely damaged. Details are sketchy and
> unconfirmed. I shall post further details as they become available.
>
> The entire RV community extends our deepest condolences to Chris'
> family and teammates over this tragic accident.
>
> Salty
>
> You'all be careful out there!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh/
> Memphis, TN
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| Subject: | Timing help needed! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@cingular.com>
Hi, Walt. Thanks for the info.
Questions:
- What's the process for dressing the points?
- Why shouldn't one use a points file?
Interested YAKsters want to know.
THANKS!
John Coffey
Yak-55m
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:16 PM
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon"
--> <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Larry;
You definitely need some help.
There are two distinct steps in setting magneto timing;
1. Internal timing of the mag ("e" gap setting) and
2. Installation and adjustment of firing angle on the engine.
Internal timing can be done with the mag on or off the engine. If
installed
find top dead center on the compression stroke of #4 piston (BUT -
before
doing any of this remove ALL front spark plugs). You can do this with a
small wooden dowel or similar to show piston position once you have
established with your thumb that you are on the compression stroke.
finger is pointing at the timing index mark on the mag housing. The mag
is
now in position to check and adjust the internal timing. (off the engine
you
would simply turn the mag by hand in the arrow direction).
Either disconnect the primary lead at each mag or turn the mag switches
on
both. Mags are now live - the primary reason for removing all front
plugs.
Clean the points with a lint free cloth and small brush using acetone or
MEK, etc. No petroleum solvents. Do not manually open points more than
1/16". If there is any evidence of arcing the points may need dressing.
If
so do NOT use a point file (or any file). If necessary let me know and I
will go through the process with you.
By turning the prop set the point rubbing block on the center of the cam
lobe with the distributor finger pointing to the timing index. Check the
point clearance. It should be 0.3 mm (.012"). The tolerance is 0.25 to
0.35mm (.010" to .014"). If outside those limits adjust to exactly 3mm.
Carefully move the tab locks, loosen the retaining screw and set the
clearance with the adjusting screw. Tighten the retaining screw and tab
lock
both.
Attach your timing light (you should have an aircraft unit with two
lights
to facilitate synchronization in the final step) to the point spring
post
and an engine ground.
Rotate the prop backwards about 40 degs. and then forward slowly ( this
is
necessary to take up gear backlash every time you check point opening)
until
the light is on (points just opened).
Do this a number of times until you are sure of the initial opening
point. With a straightedge (6" rule works fine) check alignment of the
leading
distributor finger to the timing index. Acceptable tolerance is +/-
1/16"
but with the gap at 3 mm it should be right on.
If necessary the distributor rotor may be adjusted by loosening the 3
screws
and rotating to align the finger.
The mag is now internally timed and ready for mating to the engine.
Under no
circumstances is it acceptable to change the point gap as a means of
"fine
tuning" for timing to the engine.
That is step 1 but I am out of time so will try to finish tomorrow
night.
Walt
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
>
> Good morning,
> Still working on the CJ but in need of a little advice...I'm trying
> to
> reinstall the mags and time them on my 285 engine. I looked thru the
> archieves and have all the books but still a little confused. I
> reinstalled mags, Found #4 TDC, Installed flower pot and adjusted to
TDC.
> Then moved the prop about 40 degrees BTDC, then forward to 25 degrees
> BTDC. Installed the mags to this angle. Mag was internally lined as
per
> manual with white electrode aimed at line on mag case. Mag Coupling
was at
> the correct orientation to install mag. After I installed mags, they
were
> close but couldn't find tune the opening of points with buzz box.
Turning
> the mag didn't seem to make any difference with point opening. There
is
> about 4 degree split between mags and the first mag goes off at about
28
> degrees BTDC. I keep to reading something about prop flange markings
and
> you need to subtract something from something?????? I need to find
away
> of fine tuning and I think I'm missing something
> with the reduction gears. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> CJ6 8181C
> Larry
>
>
> Larry Pine
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
Death to the turbines!
"We gotta get rid of these turbines, they are ruining aviation.
We need to go back to big round engines.
Anybody can start a turbine, you just need to move a switch from
"OFF" to "START," and then remember to move it back to "ON" after
a while. My PC is harder to start.
Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. On
some planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it.
Turbines start by whining for a while, then give a small
lady-like poot and start whining louder.
Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click,
BANG, more rattles, another BANG, a big macho fart or two,
more clicks, a lot of smoke and finally a serious low pitched
roar. We like that. It's a blokey thing. (read guy thing)
When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you
can concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting a turbine is
like flicking on a ceiling fan: Useful, but hardly exciting.
Turbines don't break often enough, leading to aircrew boredom,
complacency and inattention.
A round engine at speed looks and sounds like it's going to blow at any
minute.
This helps concentrate the mind.
Turbines don't have enough control levers to keep a pilot's
attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman lanterns.
Round engined planes smell like God intended flying machines
to smell.
I think I hear the nurse coming down the hall. I gotta go."
--
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| Subject: | Re: Turbine/Radials |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
Besides if we didn't have radials, what would we do with all of those oil
buckets !!!!!
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:50 PM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
>
>
> Death to the turbines!
>
> "We gotta get rid of these turbines, they are ruining aviation.
>
> We need to go back to big round engines.
>
> Anybody can start a turbine, you just need to move a switch from
> "OFF" to "START," and then remember to move it back to "ON" after
> a while. My PC is harder to start.
>
> Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. On
> some planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it.
>
> Turbines start by whining for a while, then give a small
> lady-like poot and start whining louder.
>
> Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click,
> BANG, more rattles, another BANG, a big macho fart or two,
> more clicks, a lot of smoke and finally a serious low pitched
> roar. We like that. It's a blokey thing. (read guy thing)
>
> When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you
> can concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting a turbine is
> like flicking on a ceiling fan: Useful, but hardly exciting.
>
> Turbines don't break often enough, leading to aircrew boredom,
> complacency and inattention.
> A round engine at speed looks and sounds like it's going to blow at any
> minute.
> This helps concentrate the mind.
>
> Turbines don't have enough control levers to keep a pilot's
> attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
>
> Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman lanterns.
> Round engined planes smell like God intended flying machines
> to smell.
>
> I think I hear the nurse coming down the hall. I gotta go."
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P Generator Brushes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Rogo.... it really is easy.... honest!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Bell
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 18:31
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
Thanks Mark. With an engine hoist and 3 strong men I will get that megawatt thing
off the engine, and send a brush sample to Doug.
--------
Mike Bell
Yak 52
Elk Grove, CA
yakflyr@comcastdotnet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=41319#41319
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Selling all my Russian & Chinese spark plugs, new and used. Contact me off
list if interested.
Gary Bunn
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Yep, once you got that Radial Rat'l'n your bones, it's hard to get excited
by a flat 4 or a turbine!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Lance Robb <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/20/2006 3:02:04 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Turbine/Radials
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
>
>
> Death to the turbines!
>
> "We gotta get rid of these turbines, they are ruining aviation.
>
> We need to go back to big round engines.
>
> Anybody can start a turbine, you just need to move a switch from
> "OFF" to "START," and then remember to move it back to "ON" after
> a while. My PC is harder to start.
>
> Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. On
> some planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it.
>
> Turbines start by whining for a while, then give a small
> lady-like poot and start whining louder.
>
> Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click,
> BANG, more rattles, another BANG, a big macho fart or two,
> more clicks, a lot of smoke and finally a serious low pitched
> roar. We like that. It's a blokey thing. (read guy thing)
>
> When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you
> can concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting a turbine is
> like flicking on a ceiling fan: Useful, but hardly exciting.
>
> Turbines don't break often enough, leading to aircrew boredom,
> complacency and inattention.
> A round engine at speed looks and sounds like it's going to blow at any
> minute.
> This helps concentrate the mind.
>
> Turbines don't have enough control levers to keep a pilot's
> attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
>
> Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman lanterns.
> Round engined planes smell like God intended flying machines
> to smell.
>
> I think I hear the nurse coming down the hall. I gotta go."
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Doc
There's only two kinds of people in this world. Homo's and those of us who
fly with radials.
Frank
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Yep, once you got that Radial Rat'l'n your bones, it's hard to get excited
by a flat 4 or a turbine!
Doc
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| Subject: | Spark Plugs for Sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Selling all my Russian & Chinese spark plugs, new and used. Contact me off
list if interested.
Gary Bunn
_vectorwarbirds@aol.com_ (mailto:vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
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