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1. 05:59 AM - The Current Russian Military Trainer (Richard Goode)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer (Robert Schwartz)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 07:12 AM - Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer (Robert Schwartz)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 09:50 AM - Zvesda Extraction Systems (Richard Goode)
7. 09:50 AM - The Current Russian Military Trainer (Richard Goode)
8. 08:28 PM - Yak 52 Intercomm (PHCarter@aol.com)
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| Subject: | The Current Russian Military Trainer |
I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being reconditi
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| Subject: | Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer |
will there be any chance at some point to get a set of the new wings and
bubble canopy?
ROBERT SCHWARTZ
To: YAK USA LIST
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer
I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being
reconditioned and converted.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer |
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:09:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
schwartzcompany@att.net writes:
I have always been interested in the Russian extraction seats. For light
aircraft they seem more practical than a full aircraft let down system. However
fitting them into a CJ without major canopy modes (and I love the sliding
canopy) makes them hard as a retrofit. ( At least I can't figure how to do it).
But for the formation flying and formation acrobatics guys this would be a
great safety asset.
Installation + cost would drive the price of these things. A lot of guys
might try some really exciting flying IF the was a way to get out of a screw up.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
> To: <A HREF="mailto:yak-list@matronics.com">YAK USA LIST</A>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:54 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer
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> I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being
> reconditioned and converted.
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> Richard Goode
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> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
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| Subject: | Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer |
If the cost was at all reasonable, or if a eastern european provider
could be found, installing the new Yak M wing on our older 52's would
have great interest to me., Better cruise speed, more fuel etc
From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:09:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
schwartzcompany@att.net writes:
I have always been interested in the Russian extraction seats. For
light aircraft they seem more practical than a full aircraft let down
system. However fitting them into a CJ without major canopy modes (and
I love the sliding canopy) makes them hard as a retrofit. ( At least I
can't figure how to do it). But for the formation flying and formation
acrobatics guys this would be a great safety asset.
Installation + cost would drive the price of these things. A lot of
guys might try some really exciting flying IF the was a way to get out
of a screw up.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
To: YAK USA LIST
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer
I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being
reconditioned and converted.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
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| Subject: | Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer |
IMHO (which really isn't worth a whole lot) regardless if a CJ or Yak 52
had ejection seats, I seriously doubt the owners would say "oh well" and
eject. Bailing out using our existing emergency parachutes runs a very
close second to ejecting during screw ups. I can't recall anyone saying
"oh well" and bailing out. All those that had the opportunity to bail
and had chutes of course, chose not to egress and ultimately became
statistics.
Maybe a another solution would be to install the Cirrus aircraft
emergency parachute system. Probably would cost less than two ejection
seats.
Dennis
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From: cjpilot710@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:09:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
schwartzcompany@att.net writes:
I have always been interested in the Russian extraction seats. For
light aircraft they seem more practical than a full aircraft let down
system. However fitting them into a CJ without major canopy modes (and
I love the sliding canopy) makes them hard as a retrofit. ( At least I
can't figure how to do it). But for the formation flying and formation
acrobatics guys this would be a great safety asset.
Installation + cost would drive the price of these things. A lot of
guys might try some really exciting flying IF the was a way to get out
of a screw up.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
To: YAK USA LIST
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Yak-List: The Current Russian Military Trainer[LashBack]
I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being
reconditioned and converted.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
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| Subject: | Zvesda Extraction Systems |
The system itself is brilliant - the only problem is dealing with the compa
ny that manufactures them, who are set in an old-world military mentality.
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I don't think the canopy is an issue - the telescopic rod that is powered b
y explosive simply shatters the canopy; the droge chute at its end pulls ou
t the parachute and the parachute pulls out the pilot. All within a 1/4 of
a second.=0A
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It also works in extreme attitudes - in fact down to 150 feet inverted!=0A
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| Subject: | The Current Russian Military Trainer |
The 'new' wings with integral long-range tanks are of course simply modific
ations of existing wings.=0A
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The modification is a very substantial one, and although we have had a few
kits made with Yakovlev in Moscow to convert aeroplanes we are restoring in
Russia, I suspect that the work involved - i.e. rebuilding part of the win
g is probably too expensive to make sense in the West.=0A
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We actually sent three kits out to Australia, together with a technician to
show them, and their feeling was that he wasn't economic in the sense of w
hat they could actually charge for the conversion.=0A
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For the bubble canopies, no reason why they couldn't be obtained in the fut
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However the problem is that Yakovlev has to run commercially; the whole 52M
programme has been costed at huge prices for the military, and I suspect t
hat even civilian 'run-ons' would be expensive!=0A
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| Subject: | Yak 52 Intercomm |
The volume of the radio and intercom in the rear cockpit has gotten too low
to hear in flight. The volume of the front cockpit for both radio and intercom
is just fine and adjusts well in both volume and squelch. I don't think it
is the rear headset, but still doing test to make sure. Are there any
adjustments or classic problems with the intercom that anyone can tell me about?
Preston, N6209F
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