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1. 07:17 AM - Fw: [Yak52TW] Re: FW: Dubious Award - Rust Bucket (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 07:17 AM - Re: [Yak52TW] Re: FW: Dubious Award - Rust Bucket (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer (Roger Kemp)
4. 08:11 AM - YAK-52M (Roger Kemp)
5. 02:54 PM - Re: Steven Ellison sent you this eBay item: 1985 YAK-52 Russian Warbird - Aerobatic! (ron wasson)
6. 03:56 PM - Re: MTW/OSH (Herb Coussons)
7. 06:42 PM - MP14 IAC video (Mark Sorenson)
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: [Yak52TW] Re: FW: Dubious Award - Rust Bucket |
FYI
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 7:53 AM
I=99ll throw this out FWIW, Cliff Coy has done my all five of my
annuals. He removed and inspected my uplocks at the five year point.
They were OK. I believe he uses some kind of glycerin/alcohol mixture
to lube the air system. It appears to work well, as 500 hours later I
haven=99t had any rust problems in the air system.
And the more the more you fly itthe better for the air
system/engine/etc. Only exception to this approach is the fuel
bill!!!!!
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Yak-52-TW-Owners-Group@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David
McGirt
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 5:00 PM
Importance: High
Just wanted to share this with the group =93
I bought my TW used ~ 125hrs on it, and the entire air system has been a
mess since then.. I have replaced the flap valve up front, rear gear
valve, and the starter valve since I bought the TW.. all because the
previous owner did not take care of the air system.. lesson learned
about buying a used Yak for me.. anyway, just thought I would share with
all..
Make sure you get your GIB to work those rear flap and gear handles
every once in a while, so they do not get crap in them like this..
David
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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:37 PM
Importance: High
Dear David,
I got around to disassembling the stockpile of landing gear and flap
valves to be sent off for polishing. Upon disassembling your 3-port
valve, crumbles of rust started to fall out of it. Well, the pictures
tell the story. You have the dubious distinction of sending me the
worst valve I have seen to date. The spring is trash. I think there is
a good chance the valve body halves will polish up. My chief concern is
the condition of the rest of your air system.
The last really bad valve I received was from an Anabras "Overhauled"
aircraft. The owner went back to him and he said he overhauls
everything but these valves. I was a bit skeptical.
Best regards,
Jill
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| Subject: | Re: [Yak52TW] Re: FW: Dubious Award - Rust Bucket |
Robert,
Thanks for your concurrence on pulling uplocks. They are, as you say,
at the end of the pneumatic system. Thus whatever you find inside an
uplock assembly is most likely what you will find throughout your
aircraft's pneumatic system.
I am going to share this with the Yak list since it applies to all
Yak's.
Dennis
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From: RLang27641@aol.com
To: Yak-52-TW-Owners-Group@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: [Yak52TW] Re: FW: Dubious Award - Rust Bucket
I will throw this out, on my standard YAK, flown an average of 160
Hrs. per year, I had a near
miss on an uplock. The Rt. main did not unlock until the nose and Lt.
main were locked down, needing the full pressure to unlock. Had I not
had full pressure, I doubt that it would have unlocked without the Emer.
system. A good reason to keep pressure in the Emer. system high. This is
your last shot at over coming a rusty uplock. While I did not have use
my Emer. It was my next and only option. I elected to return home with
the gear extended as the trip was short and put the A/C on jacks for an
actual retract. You guessed it, same as in the air, the Rt. main
hesitated to unlock. Pulled the up lock and it was full of rust.
Remember this A/C had been flown at least weekly. I had rebuilt the
uplocks as well as the actuators sometime prior, but had not checked
them during condition inspections. I am surprised that this issue has
not gotten more attention, or more props. But then that is the purpose
of this web site. Having said all that to say this, yes flying often is
better than the A/C setting idle for extended periods. Just remember,
due to the airline dead ending at the Uplock actuator, any moisture that
goes in stays in. Eventually causing rust. Pull them and check them
often YAK and CJ drivers.
Lefty
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| Subject: | Re: The Current Russian Military Trainer |
Robert,
You would be better of cost wise doing a TD conversion and gutting the cockpits
of all the heavy avionics. If you just have to have a family model. However,
as long as you have the Clark Y airfoil, you are looking at a slower airplane.
You can only do so much and you still have to deal with the wing. It is still
a great airplane no matter how you look at it. Still faster than the average
spam can!
If you want a faster, more agile, and just plan cool YAK, get a 50. Without all
that extra wt., it does cruise faster at the same power settings as the "Duece".
Keep your Duece for those times you just need the family model to introduce
someone to the Great World of YAKOVATING!
Do not want to hear from you Chinese Yakkers about the agile and faster virtues
of your CJ's. They are all great airplanes and fun to fly! For some of us Mil
types, they make a pretty good and cheap replacement for the really fun iron
that we used to fly. Saying that, I know there are a few of us that are still
lucky enough to be flying Mil iron and fly our YAK/CJ's too!
Doc
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Sent: 7/6/2006 9:25:42 AM
If the cost was at all reasonable, or if a eastern european provider could be found,
installing the new Yak M wing on our older 52's would have great interest
to me., Better cruise speed, more fuel etc
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:37 AM
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:09:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, schwartzcompany@att.net
writes:
I have always been interested in the Russian extraction seats. For light aircraft
they seem more practical than a full aircraft let down system. However fitting
them into a CJ without major canopy modes (and I love the sliding canopy)
makes them hard as a retrofit. ( At least I can't figure how to do it). But
for the formation flying and formation acrobatics guys this would be a great
safety asset.
Installation + cost would drive the price of these things. A lot of guys might
try some really exciting flying IF the was a way to get out of a screw up.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:54 AM
I should add that the 52Ms are old (but low-time) airframes being reconditioned
and converted.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
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After rereading the Yakolev website discription of the 52M, I stand corrected on
the wings. They were modified to improve stall characteristics. The feet are
still external to the wing and hence are a source of drag as it appears from
the three provided photos. They still use a modified Clark Y Airfoil. The stated
max speed is 360 kmph, so what would we be getting for extra cruise out of
those wings? You get 190 lts in fuel so that is alittle better than where we are
now with stock 52's. Still have to say for the cost if I were going to put
a new set of wings on my duece, I would do the TD conversion or pray the Russians
decide to produce the 152 if you just have an aversion to tail dragging. I
am sure the 152 will come at a significantly higher cost if it is ever put into
mass production.
Doc
Roger "Doc" Kemp
viperdoc@mindspring.com
Aint no sound like a Radial
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| Subject: | Re: Steven Ellison sent you this eBay item: 1985 YAK-52 Russian |
Warbird - Aerobatic!
thanks
ron wasson
ronwasson at mindspring dot com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
HOTELS -
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Ask for RedStar Pilots rate - about 55$
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Herb
On Jul 8, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Ronald Kalemba wrote:
> Herb,
> Do you have a list of hotels in MTW where most folks are staying?
> $$ and phone #'s would be helpful.
> Thanks,
> Ron Kalemba
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Sorenson <marksorenson@sprintpcs.com>
Thought I would share with you this 28min video I made for the local IAC chapter.
I has some MP14 sounds in it.
http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=786627
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