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1. 07:51 AM - Yak-50 Radio (Richard Goode)
2. 07:51 AM - Shipping Yaks (Richard Goode)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: Acro in a CJ (Jay Land)
4. 07:51 AM - Acro in a CJ (Richard Goode)
5. 08:00 AM - Re: Oil Temperature & Oil Cooler (doug sapp)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: Acro in a CJ (Joe Nygard)
7. 08:56 AM - Re: Acro in a CJ (Hans Oortman)
8. 08:57 AM - Re: Acro in a CJ (Hans Oortman)
9. 09:27 AM - Re: Acro in a CJ (Richard Goode)
10. 10:25 AM - Re: yak 50 landings and Russian radio (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
11. 10:29 AM - Re: M14P Air Pump. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 10:37 AM - Re: M14P Air Pump. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
13. 10:43 AM - Re: Yak-50 Radio (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
14. 11:31 AM - Re: Yak-50 Radio (Roger Kemp)
15. 01:12 PM - Re: yak 50 landings and Russian radio (Jan Mevis)
16. 01:36 PM - ??? (Larry Pine)
17. 01:52 PM - Fuel indicator probs (Jerome van der Schaar)
18. 02:50 PM - Re: ??? (doug sapp)
19. 03:12 PM - Re: ??? (Larry Pine)
20. 04:52 PM - Re: ??? (doug sapp)
21. 09:06 PM - Re: ??? (lou dakos)
22. 09:32 PM - Re: ??? (Larry Pine)
23. 10:00 PM - Oil Cooler (Paul)
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That is the absolutely standard radio fitted to many Yak-50s. It is a sing
le unit and is called a Ziablik.=0A
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If anyone would like to see drawings of the fixed-gear (and spats) and bubb
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We know a lot about this ' having shipped some 80 aircraft in containers
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The actual shipping costs are relatively low ' today probably less than U
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However the real cost is in disassembling the aeroplane, making really good
jigs to support the wings; getting =91transport undercarriage=92 to suppor
t the fuselage; packing the entire lot really securely in a container.
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This needs to be done in a way that if the container is turned upside down,
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You then have a variety of other costs such as loading the container on to
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Then of course you have reassembly and paperwork. We always say in round t
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I use 120 for rolls, 160 for loops (mph)
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Sent: Sat 7/22/2006 11:17 PM
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
A friend who instructs in T-34's and T-6's is willing to trade a little
acro instruction ( my airplane ) for some A&P time on his airplane.
The question I have is could someone give me normal entry speeds for
loops , rolls etc, only interested in pretty mild maneuvers just
positive G entry level stuff.
Any input would be most appreciated, thanks ,
Walt
Oh.. almost forgot.... how much oil should I limit the engine to ( to
keep the airplane from getting really messy? )
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In response to Walt Murphy's message - am I alone in thinking that it is ex
traordinary to seek aerobatic instruction from someone who has no experienc
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I know nothing about CJs, but a Yak-52 customer of ours to whom we had intr
oduced a very experienced 52 aerobatic instructor, chose, for good practica
l reasons at the time, to get instruction from a superb pilot, BUT with, it
now seems, no experience on the 52.=0A
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| Subject: | Oil Temperature & Oil Cooler |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Elmar,
Yes, Your temps seem high. Check you log book, if you have never had your
oil cooler flushed you should have it done. I have factory new coolers but
it is much lower cost to just have yours flushed out unless you want to do
an exchange for a new one which will get you back in the air a bit faster
than waiting for the cooler to be returned. And no the 52 cooler will not
fit the CJ. Contact me off list with your reply.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
tamara_b@telus.net
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:20 PM
--> Yak-List message posted by: tamara_b@telus.net
I have 2 questions, every constructive
contribution is much appreciated:
1) the OAT is during the day around
30 to 35 Celsius and my oil temperature
in my CJ goes up to 85 Celsius and the
scavenge temp. around 125 Celsius.
Is that normal due the time of the year
or do I need a new oil cooler
(or have the old one steam-flushed)?
2) does the YAK 52 oil cooler fit in a CJ?
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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spun in, as in into the ground?
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:48 AM
In response to Walt Murphy's message - am I alone in thinking that it is
extraordinary to seek aerobatic instruction from someone who has no
experience of that type of aircraft?
I know nothing about CJs, but a Yak-52 customer of ours to whom we had
introduced a very experienced 52 aerobatic instructor, chose, for good
practical reasons at the time, to get instruction from a superb pilot, BUT
with, it now seems, no experience on the 52.
They decided to practice flat spins and spun-in.
No aircraft problem - simply no experience on type!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
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Guys,
I still remember the day that that happened, lousy weather, low cloud
base
and they started a flat spin way too low..not very smart..
I agree with Richard, if you wanna do aerobatics with full power
verticals,
get a guy who has a lot of experience on type..
The case where Richard refers to was(!) somebody with NO experience at
all
on the Yak52.
Hans
Dutch Yak Dude
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: maandag 24 juli 2006 16:48
In response to Walt Murphy's message - am I alone in thinking that it is
extraordinary to seek aerobatic instruction from someone who has no
experience of that type of aircraft?
I know nothing about CJs, but a Yak-52 customer of ours to whom we had
introduced a very experienced 52 aerobatic instructor, chose, for good
practical reasons at the time, to get instruction from a superb pilot,
BUT
with, it now seems, no experience on the 52.
They decided to practice flat spins and spun-in.
No aircraft problem - simply no experience on type!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
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Yes, they were both killed at impact.
Hans
Dutch Yak Dude
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Nygard
Sent: maandag 24 juli 2006 17:47
spun in, as in into the ground?
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:48 AM
In response to Walt Murphy's message - am I alone in thinking that it is
extraordinary to seek aerobatic instruction from someone who has no
experience of that type of aircraft?
I know nothing about CJs, but a Yak-52 customer of ours to whom we had
introduced a very experienced 52 aerobatic instructor, chose, for good
practical reasons at the time, to get instruction from a superb pilot,
BUT
with, it now seems, no experience on the 52.
They decided to practice flat spins and spun-in.
No aircraft problem - simply no experience on type!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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| Subject: | Re: Acro in a CJ |
Yes, both killed. A completely unnecessary tragedy.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Nygard
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Acro in a CJ
spun in, as in into the ground?
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:48 AM
To: YAK USA LIST
Subject: Yak-List: Acro in a CJ
In response to Walt Murphy's message - am I alone in thinking that it
is extraordinary to seek aerobatic instruction from someone who has no
experience of that type of aircraft?
I know nothing about CJs, but a Yak-52 customer of ours to whom we had
introduced a very experienced 52 aerobatic instructor, chose, for good
practical reasons at the time, to get instruction from a superb pilot,
BUT with, it now seems, no experience on the 52.
They decided to practice flat spins and spun-in.
No aircraft problem - simply no experience on type!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | yak 50 landings and Russian radio |
Ok Jan,
I have shown the picture to everyone I can think of and no one has seen
one like it ... yet. I still have to ask Sergei Boriak and Vladimir
Yastremski.
Mark
p.s. The rust on the antenna is no big deal.... but something wrong in
the coax or a connector sure as heck would be. You really need to use
an inline wattmeter.
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:48
Thanks for the recommendations, Mark!
I'll check the antenna cable and the antenna. The antenna is quite
oxidated. The Yak 50 is the 80-1807 used for 120 hours from september
1981 until september 1983 in St Petersburg. Then it was stored and in
2002 overhauled in the Shakthy factory. I am the second owner since. The
former owner, a Swedish pilot, never changed a bit on the plane. In
total the plane has 195 hours.
Jan
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: zaterdag 22 juli 2006 1:01
OH BOY! I have never, EVER seen anything like THAT! You've sprung a
new one on me! What year is your YAK-50? I have a 1974 Yak and a 1985
Yak, and NEITHER of them have anything that looks like that! Is the
thing I am looking at in your cockpit the actual RADIO? Or is it just a
control head with the actual radio being located someplace else? WOW...
looks like something brand new that no one else has! I have seen all
the YAK-52 models too, and again.. NOTHING like that.
I would not worry about replacing that radio with something else that is
not "stock" because what you have in there now was never "stock" in a
YAK-50 that I have ever seen or heard about.... and I have sat in about
10 or so YAK-50's.
I have some Russian friends... I will show the picture to them and see
what they say.
Never-the-less, the recommendations I made about how to check the radio
are still accurate.
Wow.... something NEW!
Take care, and good luck... I'll be glad to help if I can!
Mark
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 18:15
Mark,
Here's a picture of the cockpit : everything in Russian as it came out
of the Shakthy factory in 2002. The radio has five knobs : two radio
buttons for the frequency (only 50 kHz separated); a volumeknob (bottom)
and the two toggle buttons. My plane is in a hangar 100 miles from my
home. I"ll try to have more data asap.
But thanks for your answer !
Jan
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[mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil]
Sent: vrijdag 21 juli 2006 20:05
Jan's, I have two YAK-50's... one that is wrecked and is just used for
parts, the other I flew. I am also an Avionics Rep for the Marine Corps
and have done some repair on the Russian radios. Your description of
the two toggle buttons confuses me. There are two adjustments on the
front of the radio in a YAK-52, but not that I can remember on the
YAK-50 radios. Can you describe the radio that you have? Is it all one
piece? Is there a control head with a remote R/T ???
All of the radios I have dealt with have at least 5 watts of output
power. That's unmodulated carrier power. Peak envelope power is of
course about 4 times that. There are a few models that put out even
more power than that! Regardless, with a good 5 watts, and a good
antenna... I usually can achieve ranges over 80 miles. Before I would
suspect the radio as being bad, I would pay particular attention to the
coax line and the antenna. You need to borrow a good in-line wattmeter
and make some checks on forward and reflected power, measured at the
antenna AND at the back of the radio R/T itself. Anyway, try to tell me
more about what you have if you can.
Best Regards,
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:40
Hi guys,
I've got a Yak 50, Russian registered with the original radio. This
radio works fine but seems to have a very limited emission range (a few
miles).Does anyone of you knows how it works ? There are two toggle
buttons. The left one is for noise suppression, but I can't figure out
what the right one is for (it has the Russian word for "net" marked on
it).
Since I'd liked to keep the plane as original as possible, I want to
keep the radio and want to try boosting the emission power.
About the landings, it is indeed special. I only had some fifty hours on
Pitts for tailwheel experience, but you certainly can't land it like the
Pitts. The Pitts is tailwheel-first. With the Yak 50 I always aim at
doing threewheelers and indeed somewhat slower than 150 km/h : about
130, 135 but with a little bit of power as in a precautionary landing. I
must admit that I avoid flying with a lot of crosswind. I keep doing
touch and go's in order to improve my landings (on a grass strip).
Fortunately the Yak 50 won't groundloop as easy as the Pitts (I think).
Before flying the 50, I performed some landings from the back seat of a
52 but the lessons on the 52 were particularly helpful to learn about
the Russian technology, more than about the landings. So I agree with
the others : try to get some tailwheel experience before flying the Yak
50, not because it 's so difficult to land, but because you're alone up
there.
Jan Mevis
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Scott, excuse me for butting my nose into your business, but I do so
only with your best interests in mind.
9 times out of 10, every single person that has thought that they had a
bad air compressor ... ended up NOT having a bad air compressor.
May I respectfully ask you what has made you come to the conclusion that
yours is bad?
The ones that I have yanked out that were bad... one has a broken shaft
and the other had stripped threads on the banjo fitting. As for how to
pull them, I have swivel sockets that work well... other than that, it
is usually just a pain in the tail but do-able.
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:38
Time to change out the air pump. Anyone got good info on tips and
techniques to get that bad boy off?
Scott
Yak52.
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Dennis has this down to a science as usual. One of the things I have
done is to apply compressed air BACKWARDS. I take the line coming from
the compressor to the snot valve OFF. I then attach a fitting to that
line and apply a few hundred PSI of air backwards.,... towards the
compressor pump. I raise the pressure very slowly and listen for leaks.
9 times out of 10, I'll find one someplace. Dennis has already listed
most of the normal places... banjo, check valve, etc. The line
itself... the one with the loop in it, is also highly suspect. If that
indeed is what is bad, call Doug Sapp for a much better replacement.
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:32
If you remove the entire output check valve, put your thumb over the
hole and have someone rotate the prop, the compressor should "push" your
thumb off the hole. If it does not, then either the sheer coupling or
compressor itself is bad. Also while you have the output check valve
out, make sure the little "piston" moves freely up and down. It is
spring loaded. If the compressor does move your finger off the hole
while rotating the prop, make sure the output check valve is working
properly. Many, many times the little piston is carboned up and no
longer opens. It this is the case, you will not charge your air system.
A carboned up output check valve may also cause the sheer coupling to
sheer due to backpressure. If both are OK (compressor and output check
valve, check the pop-off valve and make sure it is working properly.
Dennis
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:45 AM
Don't know yet. Just getting ready to investigate the problem. Only
thing I have check so far is the banjo fitting for leaks.
Scott.
In a message dated 7/22/2006 1:54:31 PM Central Standard Time,
rvfltd@televar.com writes:
Scott, what has failed? The drive/pin or the pump?
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
MajorGoofinoff@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:38 AM
Time to change out the air pump. Anyone got good info on tips and
techniques to get that bad boy off?
Scott
Yak52.
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Thanks for the info Richard. That makes three different radios that
were now standard on the 50. Have you got Maint. manuals on this thing?
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:51
That is the absolutely standard radio fitted to many Yak-50s. It is a
single unit and is called a Ziablik.
If anyone would like to see drawings of the fixed-gear (and spats) and
bubble-canopy versions, let us know and we will send you them.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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Richard,
Please send those pictures. I have a talk to give in Sept on the 50 for our QB
chapter meeting. Would love to have some pictures of the early 50 with a bubble
canopy. To bad they chose not to make that canopy.
Doc Kemp
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/24/2006 10:11:29 AM
That is the absolutely standard radio fitted to many Yak-50s. It is a single unit
and is called a Ziablik.
If anyone would like to see drawings of the fixed-gear (and spats) and bubble-canopy
versions, let us know and we will send you them.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
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| Subject: | yak 50 landings and Russian radio |
Thanks to all of you for the info about the radio. This list really works
!!!!
So it's a standard Ziablik (thanks Richard). Since the radio is working fine
but with a low output, I'll follow Mark's advise and check the power with a
Wattmeter.
Jan
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: maandag 24 juli 2006 19:24
Ok Jan,
I have shown the picture to everyone I can think of and no one has seen one
like it ... yet. I still have to ask Sergei Boriak and Vladimir
Yastremski.
Mark
p.s. The rust on the antenna is no big deal.... but something wrong in the
coax or a connector sure as heck would be. You really need to use an inline
wattmeter.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:48
Thanks for the recommendations, Mark!
I'll check the antenna cable and the antenna. The antenna is quite oxidated.
The Yak 50 is the 80-1807 used for 120 hours from september 1981 until
september 1983 in St Petersburg. Then it was stored and in 2002 overhauled
in the Shakthy factory. I am the second owner since. The former owner, a
Swedish pilot, never changed a bit on the plane. In total the plane has 195
hours.
Jan
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: zaterdag 22 juli 2006 1:01
OH BOY! I have never, EVER seen anything like THAT! You've sprung a new
one on me! What year is your YAK-50? I have a 1974 Yak and a 1985 Yak,
and NEITHER of them have anything that looks like that! Is the thing I am
looking at in your cockpit the actual RADIO? Or is it just a control head
with the actual radio being located someplace else? WOW... looks like
something brand new that no one else has! I have seen all the YAK-52
models too, and again.. NOTHING like that.
I would not worry about replacing that radio with something else that is not
"stock" because what you have in there now was never "stock" in a YAK-50
that I have ever seen or heard about.... and I have sat in about 10 or so
YAK-50's.
I have some Russian friends... I will show the picture to them and see what
they say.
Never-the-less, the recommendations I made about how to check the radio are
still accurate.
Wow.... something NEW!
Take care, and good luck... I'll be glad to help if I can!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 18:15
Mark,
Here's a picture of the cockpit : everything in Russian as it came out of
the Shakthy factory in 2002. The radio has five knobs : two radio buttons
for the frequency (only 50 kHz separated); a volumeknob (bottom) and the two
toggle buttons. My plane is in a hangar 100 miles from my home. I"ll try to
have more data asap.
But thanks for your answer !
Jan
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[mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil]
Sent: vrijdag 21 juli 2006 20:05
Jan's, I have two YAK-50's... one that is wrecked and is just used for
parts, the other I flew. I am also an Avionics Rep for the Marine Corps and
have done some repair on the Russian radios. Your description of the two
toggle buttons confuses me. There are two adjustments on the front of the
radio in a YAK-52, but not that I can remember on the YAK-50 radios. Can
you describe the radio that you have? Is it all one piece? Is there a
control head with a remote R/T ???
All of the radios I have dealt with have at least 5 watts of output power.
That's unmodulated carrier power. Peak envelope power is of course about 4
times that. There are a few models that put out even more power than that!
Regardless, with a good 5 watts, and a good antenna... I usually can achieve
ranges over 80 miles. Before I would suspect the radio as being bad, I
would pay particular attention to the coax line and the antenna. You need
to borrow a good in-line wattmeter and make some checks on forward and
reflected power, measured at the antenna AND at the back of the radio R/T
itself. Anyway, try to tell me more about what you have if you can.
Best Regards,
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:40
Hi guys,
I've got a Yak 50, Russian registered with the original radio. This radio
works fine but seems to have a very limited emission range (a few
miles).Does anyone of you knows how it works ? There are two toggle
buttons. The left one is for noise suppression, but I can't figure out what
the right one is for (it has the Russian word for "net" marked on it).
Since I'd liked to keep the plane as original as possible, I want to keep
the radio and want to try boosting the emission power.
About the landings, it is indeed special. I only had some fifty hours on
Pitts for tailwheel experience, but you certainly can't land it like the
Pitts. The Pitts is tailwheel-first. With the Yak 50 I always aim at doing
threewheelers and indeed somewhat slower than 150 km/h : about 130, 135 but
with a little bit of power as in a precautionary landing. I must admit that
I avoid flying with a lot of crosswind. I keep doing touch and go's in order
to improve my landings (on a grass strip). Fortunately the Yak 50 won't
groundloop as easy as the Pitts (I think).
Before flying the 50, I performed some landings from the back seat of a 52
but the lessons on the 52 were particularly helpful to learn about the
Russian technology, more than about the landings. So I agree with the others
: try to get some tailwheel experience before flying the Yak 50, not because
it 's so difficult to land, but because you're alone up there.
Jan Mevis
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Barry,
Do you know where I can get a shipset of the original chinese, CJ, exterior panel
markings??? The vinyl type.
Thanks
Larry Pine
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| Subject: | Fuel indicator probs |
Hello all,
For the third time in a row (within a year) my fuel indicator went US.
It's the right tank indicator which drops to 12 liters, even when the tan
k
is full.
If the indicator is replaced, it works fine for a couple of months, than
it
stops.. Must be something electrical...
Anyone of you familiar with the problem?
Best regards,
Jerome Van Der Schaar
www.yakkes.com
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Larry,
If you dig back thru the archives of the Yak list I am sure you will find
an Aussie that has them for sale. Maybe this posting will kick someone's
brain cells loose. I bought a set myself but used them many moons ago and
cannot recall what his name was. If you have the photos I know of several
shops that can reproduce them for you.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Pine
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:36 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: ???
Barry,
Do you know where I can get a shipset of the original chinese, CJ,
exterior panel markings??? The vinyl type.
Thanks
Larry Pine
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Thanks Doug,
I did some diggin thru the archieve but couldn't find anything. I know there
out there because I've seen them on of the aircraft. I'll see what pops up before
I'll have someone regenerate them on computer..
Thanks again,
Larry
doug sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
Larry,
If you dig back thru the archives of the Yak list I am sure you will find an
Aussie that has them for sale. Maybe this posting will kick someone's brain
cells loose. I bought a set myself but used them many moons ago and cannot recall
what his name was. If you have the photos I know of several shops that
can reproduce them for you.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:36 PM
Barry,
Do you know where I can get a shipset of the original chinese, CJ, exterior panel
markings??? The vinyl type.
Thanks
Larry Pine
Larry Pine
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Larry Pine,
Could you please contact me off list.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Pine
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:12 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: ???
Thanks Doug,
I did some diggin thru the archieve but couldn't find anything. I know
there out there because I've seen them on of the aircraft. I'll see what
pops up before I'll have someone regenerate them on computer..
Thanks again,
Larry
doug sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
Larry,
If you dig back thru the archives of the Yak list I am sure you will
find an Aussie that has them for sale. Maybe this posting will kick
someone's brain cells loose. I bought a set myself but used them many
moons ago and cannot recall what his name was. If you have the photos I
know of several shops that can reproduce them for you.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Pine
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:36 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: ???
Barry,
Do you know where I can get a shipset of the original chinese, CJ,
exterior panel markings??? The vinyl type.
Thanks
Larry Pine
Larry Pine
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G'Day Larry
I purchased decals (in chinese) for the outside of my CJ from Steve
Peterson in NZ but this was 2002 his email address then was
steve.peterson@xtra.co.nz
Regards Lou
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Thank you,
I'll give him a try!
lou dakos <ldakos@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
G'Day Larry
I purchased decals (in chinese) for the outside of my CJ from Steve Peterson
in NZ but this was 2002 his email address then was steve.peterson@xtra.co.nz
Regards Lou
Larry Pine
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Elmar,
Here in the Okanagan we are in the 40+C most days and my CJ runs at 50C
with the cooler door open. It did hit 90C on a climb out, but I raised
the airspeed and reduced that to 65C and then it went back to 50C in
cruise. That was yesterday and today going and coming from the coast. I
dop not close the door at this time of year. And I must admit, it runs
cooler coming out of the coast - you guts get warm, but never hot !!
Regards,
Paul Dumoret
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