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1. 05:51 AM - Re: Flap (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: Very interesting read (PeteAbbott@aol.com)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Very interesting read (Roger Kemp)
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Very interesting read/OSH (Herb Coussons)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (Jim Bernier)
6. 07:46 AM - Re: Fuel indicator probs (Rob Rowe)
7. 09:04 AM - CJ-6 For Sale (Ernie)
8. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Fuel indicator probs (Roger Kemp)
9. 11:54 AM - Re: Very interesting read/OSH (Roger Kemp)
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12. 01:47 PM - Re: Hotel Info KGED (Daniel Fortin)
13. 04:34 PM - Re: Very interesting read (Cliff Umscheid)
14. 04:44 PM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (F16ftrplt@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Roger,
Unlike the CJ, the Yak 52 only has one small air filter with is below the
pop-off valve on the firewall. With the exception of the felt compressor
filter and the aforementioned air filter, there really isn't much we can do
on the 52. Cleaning the "snot" bottle out periodically helps prevent the
goop from getting pushed back through the check valve and the air filter and
finally back into the main air tank. Quite frankly, I think the CJ has a
much better pneumatic filtering system.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:34 PM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Thanks for the advice Doug. I live in one of those hot humid environs and
> have only been checking my air system at annuals.
> Doc
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: doug sapp <rvfltd@televar.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 7/25/2006 5:38:18 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Flap
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>>
>> Great Post Jim! This is why the list is a great resource. I did not
>> know
>> about "high pressure vacuum grease". I'll do some searching and see what
> I
>> can find. The flap/gear valves can be a problem if your air filter
>> system
>> is not kept in good condition. So one thing to add to your list of gear
> and
>> flap valve solutions is to check and maintain the desiccant filter, it's
> the
>> "lungs" of your air system, keep it clean and your flap valves will give
> you
>> good service. We are all used to "annual" servicing of the majority of
> our
>> aircraft, but the desiccant filter requires much more attention than what
>> you might think, especially if you are operating in hot and humid
>> conditions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Always Yakin,
>> Doug Sapp
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Bernier
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:53 PM
>>
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>>
>> One of the two flap actuation valves are leaking across from the pressure
>> side to the up side. That would explain the first situation. A stuck
>> diverter valve would explain the second. Both happening at once is
> unlikely.
>> If this were my problem I would start by taking the two output lines off
>> each flap valve. Place the handles in neutral and turn on the air supply.
>> Check for leakage in any of the output fittings. If air is leaking that
>> valve needs to be machined or purchased new. New from Doug is my choice.
> If
>> no air is leaking them take the diverter valves apart and clean. If these
>> valve are dirty you may want to clean the flap valves as well. Be very
>> careful not to scratch the faces of the flap valves. I have used high
>> pressure vacuum grease to mate the two faces. Dow Corning makes vacuum
>> grease. I don't know were to get it. A friend at a college chem lab got
>> my
>> jar.
>> With the lines off, check the operation of the flap handle.
>> Be very careful applying pressure when taking them apart. The flap valves
>> are a very simple unit, but the machining is very close tolerance.
>> Jim B
>>
>> >>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/25/06 11:57 AM >>>
>> Need some pneumatic system troubleshooting help for CJ-6.
>>
>> With the Rear cockpit Flap handle in the neutral position, the front
>> cockpit
>> flap valve gets the flap down to only 10 degrees.
>>
>> I tried operating the rear valve with the front in neutral and had the
> same
>> results. When I position the rear cockpit Flap handle in the UP
> position,
>> I
>> was able to operate the flap from the front cockpit to the FULL DOWN
>> position.
>>
>> I have a CD with a very poor schematic of the pneumatic system. Any
> ideas
>> or help would be greatly appreciated
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Med Ragheb
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| Subject: | Re: Very interesting read |
Seven year Cicadas were a plague last year, but with the summer heat on us
and their racket again filling the air, we should review what Cicadas really
are.
These creatures are not poisonous and do not have a stinger. They serve no
known useful function. They are not part of the food chain. Half of the
population are males who spend their time singing or calling for the females to
mate.
The annoyance from their loud singing, which can reach 100 db is almost
unbearable, and is tempered by the fact that the periodic cicadas are only out
for 4 to 6 weeks. While here they are most annoying. Their bodies cover our
cars' windshields as we drive. They are forever flying into us or alighting upon
us. Yet they seem proud of their flying skills (which are limited to say the
least). They are unwanted, loud, obnoxious, rowdy, driven it seems to a
search for sex and determined to thoroughly annoy the human race. Many wonder
where they come from.
The best theory is that these obnoxious useless creatures are really fighter
pilots returned to their natural state.............!
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| Subject: | Re: Very interesting read |
Yeh, but fighter pilots serve a function as birds of prey! It is the bravado at
the bar that may offend the more timid of bird men! And it is a well know fact
that a nurse would rather screw a fighter pilot but wants to marry a Doc!
viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/26/2006 8:30:20 AM
Seven year Cicadas were a plague last year, but with the summer heat on us and
their racket again filling the air, we should review what Cicadas really are.
These creatures are not poisonous and do not have a stinger. They serve no known
useful function. They are not part of the food chain. Half of the population
are males who spend their time singing or calling for the females to mate.
The annoyance from their loud singing, which can reach 100 db is almost unbearable,
and is tempered by the fact that the periodic cicadas are only out for 4
to 6 weeks. While here they are most annoying. Their bodies cover our cars' windshields
as we drive. They are forever flying into us or alighting upon us. Yet
they seem proud of their flying skills (which are limited to say the least).
They are unwanted, loud, obnoxious, rowdy, driven it seems to a search for sex
and determined to thoroughly annoy the human race. Many wonder where they come
from.
The best theory is that these obnoxious useless creatures are really fighter pilots
returned to their natural state.............!
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| Subject: | Re: Very interesting read/OSH |
Unless you are a gynecologist.
Seriously -
OSH is going great. Weather could be better. It has been either
t'storms or very hot and humid.
The highlight of the week without a doubt has been the memorial
dinner for Rodger. Everyone who worked on that did a great job.
Jurgis flying for our private airshow and presentation was a close
second - and he was here because of Rodger.
Fiddler and friends kept everyone's spirits light with some
incredible music.
OSH is OSH - big, busy, crowded - etc.
There are alot cameras around this week, I am sure many pics will be
coming for all to see.
Herb
On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Roger Kemp wrote:
> Yeh, but fighter pilots serve a function as birds of prey! It is
> the bravado at the bar that may offend the more timid of bird men!
> And it is a well know fact that a nurse would rather screw a
> fighter pil'ot but wants to marry a Doc!
> viperdoc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 7/26/2006 8:30:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Very interesting read
>
> Seven year Cicadas were a plague last year, but with the summer
> heat on us and their racket again filling the air, we should review
> what Cicadas really are.
>
>
> These creatures are not poisonous and do not have a stinger. They
> serve no known useful function. They are not part of the food
> chain. Half of the population are males who spend their time
> singing or calling for the females to mate.
>
> The annoyance from their loud singing, which can reach 100 db is
> almost unbearable, and is tempered by the fact that the periodic
> cicadas are only out for 4 to 6 weeks. While here they are most
> annoying. Their bodies cover our cars' windshields as we drive.
> They are forever flying into us or alighting upon us. Yet they seem
> proud of their flying skills (which are limited to say the least).
> They are unwanted, loud, obnoxious, rowdy, driven it seems to a
> search for sex and determined to thoroughly annoy the human race.
> Many wonder where they come from.
>
> The best theory is that these obnoxious useless cr eatures are
> really fighter pilots returned to their natural state.............!
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Med
The attached should help. It's a "good" scanned diagram of the CJ-6 flap
pneumatic system.
Enjoy.
Jim B
>>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/25/06 6:04 PM >>>
Thanks guys for all the info. Doug is right, the list is a great
resource
and as newbie I certainly appreciate the help.
I am heading out to Oshkosh (airline) tomorrow and will get working as
soon
as I get back Saturday.
Does anyone have a "good" scanned diagram of the CJ-6 flap pneumatic
system
Med Ragheb
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator probs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
Doc.
Spoke with Rob Kent & we reckon you'll not be any better off trying to use the
"other" side of the Yak-52 gauge for your aux tank - as both the sender (specific
to the fuel tank dimensions) & the display (decoding the phase combinations
of a given sender) need to be matched for this to read accurately.
Cheers, Rob R
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49920#49920
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <erniel29@gmail.com>
I am willing to sell my CJ alone without the spares, I will sell off spares only
after the CJ is sold. Contact me off list for more info.
Ernie
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49933#49933
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator probs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Rob,
Thanks, I was afraid of that. I will be better off using a Shadin fuel flow
monitor than fooling with the Fuel gauge. Appreciate the input.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Rob Rowe <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/26/2006 9:56:48 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fuel indicator probs
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
>
> Doc.
>
> Spoke with Rob Kent & we reckon you'll not be any better off trying to
use the "other" side of the Yak-52 gauge for your aux tank - as both the
sender (specific to the fuel tank dimensions) & the display (decoding the
phase combinations of a given sender) need to be matched for this to read
accurately.
>
> Cheers, Rob R
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49920#49920
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Very interesting read/OSH |
Copy all,
Look forward to the jpg's on OSH.
Fly safe and have fun. Keep an eye on Talon! He's one of those fighter pilots all
talk of.
Viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/26/2006 9:34:40 AM
Unless you are a gynecologist.
Seriously -
OSH is going great. Weather could be better. It has been either t'storms or very
hot and humid.
The highlight of the week without a doubt has been the memorial dinner for Rodger.
Everyone who worked on that did a great job.
Jurgis flying for our private airshow and presentation was a close second - and
he was here because of Rodger.
Fiddler and friends kept everyone's spirits light with some incredible music.
OSH is OSH - big, busy, crowded - etc.
There are alot cameras around this week, I am sure many pics will be coming for
all to see.
Herb
On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Roger Kemp wrote:
Yeh, but fighter pilots serve a function as birds of prey! It is the bravado at
the bar that may offend the more timid of bird men! And it is a well know fact
that a nurse would rather screw a fighter pil'ot but wants to marry a Doc!
viperdoc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/26/2006 8:30:20 AM
Seven year Cicadas were a plague last year, but with the summer heat on us and
their racket again filling the air, we should review what Cicadas really are.
These creatures are not poisonous and do not have a stinger. They serve no known
useful function. They are not part of the food chain. Half of the population
are males who spend their time singing or calling for the females to mate.
The annoyance from their loud singing, which can reach 100 db is almost unbearable,
and is tempered by the fact that the periodic cicadas are only out for 4
to 6 weeks. While here they are most annoying. Their bodies cover our cars' windshields
as we drive. They are forever flying into us or alighting upon us. Yet
they seem proud of their flying skills (which are limited to say the least).
They are unwanted, loud, obnoxious, rowdy, driven it seems to a search for sex
and determined to thoroughly annoy the human race. Many wonder where they come
from.
The best theory is that these obnoxious useless cr eatures are really fighter pilots
returned to their natural state.............!
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Bill,
We confirmed with Sean and the dates for the Fall gig are October 12 to 15.
Sorry to hear you wont be able to attend.
Dan
>From: Bill Mills <bill.mills@totaltec.com>
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hotel Info KGED
>Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:26:00 -0700
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Mills <bill.mills@totaltec.com>
>
>Hey Dan,
>
>What are the dates for this? Hopefully NOT the weekend of the 13th......
>NAVY homecoming is in Annapolis, and Sean and group is there with me?
>
>Let me know, I want to attend.........
>
>Bill Mills
>Regional Sales Manager
>Total Tec Systems
>South East US
>386 447 1118
>bill.mills@totaltec.com
>
>" Because I fly.... I envy no man "
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:33 AM
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Fellow Yak drivers,
>
>Here is the info for our stay in Georgetown De this October. 30 rooms have
>been blocked at the:
>
>SLEEP INN & SUITES LEWES
>1595 HIGHWAY ONE
>LEWES, DE 19958 USA
>Phone: 3026456464
>Fax: 3026448897
>
>10 rooms with double beds, 10 with King beds and 10 mini suites with a King
>bed and a hide-a-bed couch. Our rate for each night is $69USD for either
>single or double occupancy.
>
>Each of you need to make his/hers own booking confirmed with your credit
>card information. The rooms come with a 48hrs cancellation policy, so I
>suggest if you think you may be able to join us, make your reservation
>right
>
>away with the option to cancel it if life gets in the way.
>
>This deal is valid until Aug 25th after which the hotel will release the
>rooms. Any reservations made after this date will be a regular rates.
>
>Hurry, there is only 28 rooms left...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Very interesting read |
Pete,
You describe the Puerto Ricans and Cubans in South and Central Florida
very well...."....unwanted , loud, obnoxious, rowdy, driven, it seems, to
a search for sex,and determined to thoroughly annoy the human race."
Thankyou,
CLIFF
Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:17:00 EDT PeteAbbott@aol.com writes:
Seven year Cicadas were a plague last year, but with the summer heat on
us and their racket again filling the air, we should review what Cicadas
really are.
These creatures are not poisonous and do not have a stinger. They serve
no known useful function. They are not part of the food chain. Half of
the population are males who spend their time singing or calling for the
females to mate.
The annoyance from their loud singing, which can reach 100 db is almost
unbearable, and is tempered by the fact that the periodic cicadas are
only out for 4 to 6 weeks. While here they are most annoying. Their
bodies cover our cars' windshields as we drive. They are forever flying
into us or alighting upon us. Yet they seem proud of their flying skills
(which are limited to say the least). They are unwanted, loud, obnoxious,
rowdy, driven it seems to a search for sex and determined to thoroughly
annoy the human race. Many wonder where they come from.
The best theory is that these obnoxious useless creatures are really
fighter pilots returned to their natural state.............!
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Jim
This is outstanding. I just had a great afternoon with a bunch of great CJ
and Yak guys here in Oshkosh. I like this group already. Once again, thank
you very much the schematic is great - it is almost "Med Proof"
All the best,
Med
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