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1. 06:27 AM - Air leak psssssssss (flir47)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 10:20 AM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (flir47)
4. 10:40 AM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (Jim Bernier)
5. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (doug sapp)
6. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 12:44 PM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (Roger Kemp)
8. 01:29 PM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
9. 05:13 PM - Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Flap) (Roger Kemp)
10. 06:00 PM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (the wades)
11. 06:16 PM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (A. Dennis Savarese)
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| Subject: | Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
Anyone have an air leak from the pressure gauge or gear selector lever??
Im getting a hissing noise coming from that area and its bleeding off air pressure.
Noticed it after I shut off the plane (52). I havent had a chance to look yet but
would be nice to know if there are any know issues.
Thanks..
:?
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
You will need to check your landing gear actuators. One of them most likely
is leaking. First try using the rear gear selector. Make sure BOTH slide
locks are to the right just to be safe. In the following order; turn off
the main air valve; put the rear gear handle in the DOWN position; put the
front gear handle in the NEUTRAL position; turn on the main air valve and
see if you still hear the leak. My bet is you will. If yes, turn off the
main air valve; put the FRONT gear handle DOWN and then put the REAR gear
handle in NEUTRAL (in other words, back to normal). Since the gear is down
and you hear the leak through the gear handle you should be able to
check/find which actuator is leaking by removing the flexible line on the UP
side of the actuator. The up side is the easy one to get to because it is
at the bottom end of the actuator where the shaft comes out. The flexible
line is connected to the a 90 degree elbow.
With the front gear handle in the DOWN position, remove the UP side flexible
line, then turn on the main air valve. Put your finger over the hole on the
90 degree elbow. If the actuator is leaking you will feel the air coming
out of the elbow. The air is leaking from the DOWN side (connections at
shuttle valve) past the internal seals and out the UP side which flows back
through and exhausts through the gear handle. In normal operation that's
why you hear the "hiss" when you move the gear handle from DOWN to UP and UP
to DOWN. The opposite side pressure in the actuator has to exhaust
somewhere and that is through the gear handle. Hopefully this makes sense.
Good luck.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:25 AM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone have an air leak from the pressure gauge or gear selector lever??
> I?Tm getting a hissing noise coming from that area and it?Ts bleeding
> off air pressure.
> Noticed it after I shut off the plane (52). I haven?Tt had a chance to
> look yet but would be nice to know if there are any know issues.
>
> Thanks?..
> :?
>
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> It's not a real world war untill France surenders!
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50143#50143
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
Ok and thank you. How hard are these seals to replace and, where can I get some.
Once.... I figure what one is leaking of course. Do you think, I should replace
them all?
Mark
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
The group is great because we love these planes almost as much as we do our wives.
Glad to be of help.
Jim B
>>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/26/06 6:44 PM >>>
Jim
This is outstanding. I just had a great afternoon with a bunch of great CJ
and Yak guys here in Oshkosh. I like this group already. Once again, thank
you very much the schematic is great - it is almost "Med Proof"
All the best,
Med
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
The big trick is having the correct tool to remove the end caps. I have all
the o/h parts for the main and nose actuators of the CJ6, but do not know
about interchangeability with the 52. Let me know if I can help.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of flir47
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:18 AM
--> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
Ok and thank you. How hard are these seals to replace and, where can I get
some. Once.... I figure what one is leaking of course. Do you think, I
should replace them all?
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
They are not difficult to physically replace. But reassembling the actuator
for the first time is always a challenge. I'd recommend you ship them off
to Carl and Jill Hays in Kingman, AZ and have them overhaul the bad one or
give it to someone who is familiar with disassembly and reassembly. Carl
and Jill have the actuator seal kits. 928-681-4400
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:18 PM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
>
> Ok and thank you. How hard are these seals to replace and, where can I get
> some. Once.... I figure what one is leaking of course. Do you think, I
> should replace them all?
>
> Mark
>
> --------
> It's not a real world war untill France surenders!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50170#50170
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Jim,
In some cases, I would say there are a few that would say more. Gotta admit
I do love both Miss Mollie (YAK-52) and Mrs Mollie! Just depends which day
of the week it is that I love more! Sat AM with good weather, well the Mrs
loses out to the Miss!
Doc Kemp
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Bernier <JBernier@dart.org>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/27/2006 12:57:02 PM
> Subject: Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Yak-List: Flap)
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
> The group is great because we love these planes almost as much as we do
our wives.
> Glad to be of help.
> Jim B
>
> >>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/26/06 6:44 PM >>>
> Jim
>
> This is outstanding. I just had a great afternoon with a bunch of great
CJ
> and Yak guys here in Oshkosh. I like this group already. Once again,
thank
> you very much the schematic is great - it is almost "Med Proof"
>
> All the best,
> Med
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Thanks for letting me know that Doc. Now WHAT was your home address again?
BIG smile.....
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 15:44
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Jim,
In some cases, I would say there are a few that would say more. Gotta admit
I do love both Miss Mollie (YAK-52) and Mrs Mollie! Just depends which day
of the week it is that I love more! Sat AM with good weather, well the Mrs
loses out to the Miss!
Doc Kemp
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Bernier <JBernier@dart.org>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/27/2006 12:57:02 PM
> Subject: Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Yak-List: Flap)
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
> The group is great because we love these planes almost as much as we do
our wives.
> Glad to be of help.
> Jim B
>
> >>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/26/06 6:44 PM >>>
> Jim
>
> This is outstanding. I just had a great afternoon with a bunch of great
CJ
> and Yak guys here in Oshkosh. I like this group already. Once again,
thank
> you very much the schematic is great - it is almost "Med Proof"
>
> All the best,
> Med
>
>
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>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
08A (Wetumpka,Al), Ol' Boy...that's where you'll find "Miss Mollie" and the
"Smokin' 50" hanging out.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/27/2006 3:36:47 PM
> Subject: RE: High pressure grease ( was Re: Yak-List: Flap)
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Thanks for letting me know that Doc. Now WHAT was your home address
again?
>
> BIG smile.....
>
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 15:44
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Jim,
> In some cases, I would say there are a few that would say more. Gotta
admit
> I do love both Miss Mollie (YAK-52) and Mrs Mollie! Just depends which day
> of the week it is that I love more! Sat AM with good weather, well the Mrs
> loses out to the Miss!
> Doc Kemp
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Bernier <JBernier@dart.org>
> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 7/27/2006 12:57:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: High pressure grease ( was Re: Yak-List: Flap)
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
> >
> > The group is great because we love these planes almost as much as we do
> our wives.
> > Glad to be of help.
> > Jim B
> >
> > >>> F16ftrplt@aol.com 07/26/06 6:44 PM >>>
> > Jim
> >
> > This is outstanding. I just had a great afternoon with a bunch of
great
> CJ
> > and Yak guys here in Oshkosh. I like this group already. Once again,
> thank
> > you very much the schematic is great - it is almost "Med Proof"
> >
> > All the best,
> > Med
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "the wades" <wade154@frontiernet.net>
only in the down position that you can tell? I had a bad seal in the nose
piston that gave that scenario, my leak would stop if neutral was selected.
lucky for me the steel balls held the gear down every time. I suppose a bad
seal in any of the pistons would do it.
Bill Wade
N4450Y
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:25 AM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone have an air leak from the pressure gauge or gear selector lever??
> I?Tm getting a hissing noise coming from that area and it?Ts bleeding
off air pressure.
> Noticed it after I shut off the plane (52). I haven?Tt had a chance to
look yet but would be nice to know if there are any know issues.
>
> Thanks?..
> :?
>
> --------
> It's not a real world war untill France surenders!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50143#50143
>
>
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> No virus found in this incoming message.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air leak psssssssss |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
You are correct Bill. Any leaking actuator will give the same symptom.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:59 PM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "the wades" <wade154@frontiernet.net>
>
> only in the down position that you can tell? I had a bad seal in the nose
> piston that gave that scenario, my leak would stop if neutral was
> selected.
> lucky for me the steel balls held the gear down every time. I suppose a
> bad
> seal in any of the pistons would do it.
> Bill Wade
> N4450Y
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:25 AM
>
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>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
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>> Anyone have an air leak from the pressure gauge or gear selector lever??
>> I?Tm getting a hissing noise coming from that area and it?Ts bleeding
> off air pressure.
>> Noticed it after I shut off the plane (52). I haven?Tt had a chance to
> look yet but would be nice to know if there are any know issues.
>>
>> Thanks?..
>> :?
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>> It's not a real world war untill France surenders!
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