Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/31/06


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 12:48 AM - SO close to disaster today! (Buzzard Aviation)
     2. 01:17 AM - Re: misfiring 18T (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
     3. 04:50 AM - Re: misfiring 18T (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (A. Dennis Savarese)
     5. 05:29 AM - Re: SO close to disaster today! (A. Dennis Savarese)
     6. 07:29 AM - Re: SO close to disaster today! (Buzzard Aviation)
     7. 07:38 AM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (flir47)
     8. 07:45 AM - manual for Yak 52 (Fanus coetzer)
     9. 07:45 AM - Re: misfiring 18T (Terry Lewis)
    10. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (Roger Kemp)
    11. 10:49 AM - Re: manual for Yak 52 (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    12. 11:15 AM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (flir47)
    13. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (Roger Kemp)
    14. 11:54 AM - Re: manual for Yak 52 (A. Dennis Savarese)
    15. 12:29 PM - Altimeter help (Rick Basiliere)
    16. 01:18 PM - Re: Altimeter help (doug sapp)
    17. 01:24 PM - Re: Air leak psssssssss (flir47)
    18. 02:53 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/29/06 (gena perevedentsev)
    19. 03:13 PM - Oshkosh 2006 Highlights - Pics.. (David McGirt)
    20. 03:35 PM - Oshkosh 2006 Tragedy (david stroud)
    21. 03:44 PM - Re: Altimeter help (Sarah Tobin)
    22. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (A. Dennis Savarese)
    23. 05:15 PM - Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight...  (Matt Dralle)
    24. 06:55 PM - Re: Altimeter help (Roger Kemp)
    25. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Air leak psssssssss (Roger Kemp)
    26. 07:05 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006 Tragedy (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:48:01 AM PST US
    From: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
    Subject: SO close to disaster today!
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    Time: 01:17:18 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
    Subject: Re: misfiring 18T
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com> Morning all. I would concur with mags however I would also look at 2 other factors and especially as it appears to be on both mag positions although not uncommon for heat soak to cause both mags to fail. (we had this on a Y50 recently 25 mins is the average. ) Lean mixture will also give these symptoms and also poor condition plugs. Eliminate the plugs if you had just done that conversion, so Mixture. Mixture - agreed filters blocking will lean the engine !! But subsequent take off appears to be fine and that's at full fuel flow. Induction leaks. - several items here. Carb loose - inlet oil drain kit fitted and open (common) inlet tubes loose - inlet drain kit pipes cracked. Back to the mags, has any one re magnetised the armatures? We have just made the equipment to do this and have also commissioned new coils to be wound. The first is here to be fitted maybe this week and then bench run. If anyone has done the magnetising please do contact me. Magnets and coils make sparks, its no good just doing half the job!!! I.e. changing coils. Cheers, mj Ps one winter ferry flight I had mags start to break down so opened all gills to run the engine cool, this solved the problem till I got home. Mark Jefferies for YAK UK Ltd <http://www.yakuk.com> Lt Gransden Airfield <http://www.yakuk.com/egmj.asp> Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP - England Conditions of <http://www.yakuk.com/cob.doc> business 00 44 1767 651 156 ph 00 44 1767 651 157 fx 00 44 7785 538 317 mob


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    Time: 04:50:20 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: misfiring 18T
    The misfiring coil causes a complete purge of the fuel charge. That's why you get the symptom of a complete engine shut down for a millisecond or so. I have discussed these symptoms with several M14 experts all over the world and every one of them asks "how many minutes after takeoff before you experience the problem?" The consensus is 20-35 minutes on the average and you can pretty much bet it's a bad coil. As for fiberglass being in the fuel system, this is always possible. You can find out very quickly by removing both the course and fine fuel screens and examining them for fiberglass particles. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Thomas To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Yak-List: misfiring 18T Dear Dennis and Rodger, Thank you both for your input, It would appear that this is the problem according to the symptoms which appear to be identical to your experience. I will do the tests to make sure that it has gone away. One thing that has me confused though,why does one bad mag cause all this angst when the second mag is firing correctly, isn't that the reason for two mags.? I had a post from Michael Wikstrom in France who had a very similar experience to mine,same symptoms again but his was caused by fiberglass long range tanks that were dissolving and blocking the fuel filter with glass strands. My plane is fitted with the same fiberglass tanks,so I have bought aluminium tanks fron Lithuania and will fit them when it arrives. Seems there is more one way to skin a cat. Thanks again Bruce Thomas


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    Time: 05:23:17 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> Mark, When you felt the air leaking out the elbow you should have just bit the bullet and pulled the actuator and overhauled it. The problem will not disappear and you may be in for a real problem if the landing gear does not fully extend to down and locked. Far more expensive and time consuming than overhauling an actuator. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 5:27 PM > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> > > Dennis, > > Well I did what you suggested and removed the hose from the elbow on the > right side (if sitting in plane) and then, turned the main valve on. Bingo > leaking out the elbow! So I pumped some tool oil in and reconnected it. > Proceeding on to the left side? disconnected the line from the elbow and > turned on the valve. I got nothing out the elbow but a slight leak out of > the hose. Is this normal?? I tried to pump some oil into the system with > the scuba set up but after removing the lines it looks like it did not > work. The lines were bone dry. Really.... now all I have is oil coming out > and running down the I/P from the selector lever. > I would like to try to get some oil to the cylinders first. Before a tear > down and reseal. What is the best way to do this? BTW I'm doing all this > on jack stands. > > Thanks > > Mark > :? > > -------- > It's not a real world war untill France surenders! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50822#50822 > > >


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    Time: 05:29:44 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: SO close to disaster today!
    My bet is you may have corrosion or garbage internally in the landing gear handle/valve. Question - Why do you put the gear handle in neutral versus leaving it in the down position when the aircraft is on the ground? You may also have a leaking landing gear actuator. Does the air pressure continue to decrease after the gear is down and locked or when you turn on the main air supply valve do you continue to hear a hiss coming from the gear handle/valve? Glad you and your airplane are safe and sound though. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Buzzard Aviation To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:46 AM Subject: Yak-List: SO close to disaster today! Hi gang, Took the 18T to an air show at Branscombe today. 850m grass strip, no problem until after parking including a long taxi in a strong crosswind and a 180 degree turn to park beside the two P51's and a sole surviving Hurricane. I run up to 60% for 15 secs and I notice the air pressure is down to 2 1/2 Bar. I always check the pressure downwind (was okay as I recall) and hope I did on final after lowering flap (I normally do) but...... to be honest, can't be sure about that. Big crowd watching my landing........... :-[ We have just had an annual done in Hungary and for the previous three months have left the U/C in neutral on parking to isolate the leak which has worked. On the 9 hour trip back from Hungary we have had no problems despite the last minute fix to the nose gear actuating pressure lines. We had a 10-15 second retraction time, replaced the air line, then okay and within 5 seconds. Assuming (Ah Ha - that old GOTCHA) that this is a re-occurrence of that problem I move I U/C lever to neutral and lose another 1/2 bar as I do so. No problem. I have a small cylinder for re-charge in the back. 5 hours later switch on air. Still 2 Bar. Recharge from cylinder to five. Starts on second blade. Move gear to normal and lose 2 1/2 Bar immediately back to 2 1/2. Engine running fine..... Decide to go home and see if pressure builds in flight. It doesn't. Alert 15 year old son in right seat to emergency gear possibility and lower gear 10 miles out at 170kph to be sure. Full lock and three greens. Now reading 2 Bar. Storm clouds ahead but can move between gaps for my 650m home base easily. Overfly strip and see wind sock limp between showers and elect for uphill (5%) on 08. Touch down normal, one application of bakes then nothing. Gust knocks us slightly sideways and aircraft continues on 08 trajectory despite 30% drift on greasy top soil after no rain for 10 weeks and sudden shower. Try brakes, nothing, now seriously sideways and hedge approaching.... Reach across to P2 yoke and hit that brake. Nothing!!!! Shit leaps to mind!!!! Still doing 50+kph. Look at son and tell him we're going though the fence now less than 100 yards away and to hang on. No steering, no brakes, no hope... As we slowly slide though through 60% to direction of travel and I expect the gear to collapse, my old motor bike racing instincts awake. 50 yards from the fence I kick in full left rudder and give it max power. Yippee. a 90 degree turn and reverse thrust. Power off. We settle 20 - 30 yards from the fence. Disaster averted. Only worked once or twice on a motocross bike but I was always told "at least you get a second chance". It's true! Eaglescott radio then inform I am a Lucky B****** Run up at 50% for 2 minutes (pointing slightly up hill sand in LONG grass) and minimal brakes return as I get back to 2 Bar. Taxi "VERY SLOWLY" to parking spot, shut down. Put gear to neutral. Pressure in main tank drops to 1/2 Bar! Nothing from snot valve. Hindsight is wonderful. I passed a perfectly useable 2000m hard runway (Exeter) and should have gone back there. NO question. I knew I had a problem and I screwed up. Go for runway length and services. NOT where your car is parked X;{ Any other thoughts on the situation, my behavior or the problem? One thing is for sure. When I go out tomorrow, I fully expect the landing gear problem to be an unsecured and un safety wired replaced line to the nose gear in Hungary. I hope not but it IS what I expect. So clearly I have no faith in the HA guys. If we can't get good maintenance on these 18T's in the UK we are in serious trouble! Will let you know what I find but it might be handy to know what you all think I should look for too. PS. Mark, Richard and Rob. Will be calling you all in the morning for pointers obviously. Thank GOD it didn't happen at Branscombe! I could easily have slid into =A33+m worth of WWII history! BTW. The Mustang display was killer. However, the Hurricane display proved it could clearly out turn them and would have had the best shot. Just added this in order to be suitably controversial for this highly esteemed and US dominated list ;-) Pictures available for anyone who wants them or can post them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 07:29:00 AM PST US
    From: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: SO close to disaster today!
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    Time: 07:38:38 AM PST US
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> Dennis, Ok thats all well and fine but. the book says to add oil every 100 hours or so.. How do you get the oil there??? It wont make it thru the system by shooting it in with the scuba set up. I will assume that oil needs to be shot into both fittings (top and bottom) for this to be achieved. Is this correct? I planned on resealing both cylinders anyway but was more concerned with getting the oil there to keep from trashing the new seals. Apparently sitting damages the seals. Hopefully the cylinders are not built like the rest of the plane. LOL [Laughing] -------- It's not a real world war untill France surenders! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51012#51012


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    Time: 07:45:03 AM PST US
    From: Fanus coetzer <fanush@coetzervennote.co.za>
    Subject: manual for Yak 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Fanus coetzer <fanush@coetzervennote.co.za> Hi all I would like to know if anyone has a manual for the Yak 52 in electronic format and in English? Would appreciate help on this. Fanus ZU-YAK


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    Time: 07:45:38 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Lewis" <talew@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: misfiring 18T
    Bruce, Are you using an ethanol type fuel ? Ethanol will dissolve fiberglass according to a marine industry study . Vinal ( spelling?) ester fiberglass tanks do not seem to have this problem. Terry Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: misfiring 18T Bruce, Have you checked you fuel filter screen. If your tanks are breaking down, your filter should be clogged with fiberglass if this is the case. That is a quick look that will not cost you an arm and a leg. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: david stroud To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: 7/30/2006 8:30:03 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: misfiring 18T Giday Bruce...I've had composite tanks cause grief before and sloshing with POR 15 was an easy and inexpensive fix. Perhaps with what and where you are flying this is not an acceptable recommend though. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada C-FDWS Christavia Fairchild 51 early construction ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Thomas To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Yak-List: misfiring 18T Dear Dennis and Rodger, Thank you both for your input, It would appear that this is the problem according to the symptoms which appear to be identical to your experience. I will do the tests to make sure that it has gone away. One thing that has me confused though,why does one bad mag cause all this angst when the second mag is firing correctly, isn't that the reason for two mags.? I had a post from Michael Wikstrom in France who had a very similar experience to mine,same symptoms again but his was caused by fiberglass long range tanks that were dissolving and blocking the fuel filter with glass strands. My plane is fitted with the same fiberglass tanks,so I have bought aluminium tanks fron Lithuania and will fit them when it arrives. Seems there is more one way to skin a cat. Thanks again Bruce Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/28/06


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    Time: 10:28:31 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Flir, Most of us put the machine oil in the main and Aux air tank when we take the tank off to dry it out/drain it during our annuals. If it is at the 5 yr time frame then the tanks are sent for hydro testing. With the actuators off, you can instill machine oil in the cylinders but that only helps the individual unit mainly. I am not the expert on this, but Dennis, Doug Sapp, Carl Hayes, and Cliff Coy to name a few here are the maintance garu's! I learn by watch Dennis...sometimes not to well. Hope that helps some. By the way, does the me262pilot in your email address mean that you also fly the Messerschmitt 262 or Me to sick to pilot? Heey Heey. Assuming Me 262 mean the jet..what's it like to fly? Viperdoc > [Original Message] > From: flir47 <me262pilot@comcast.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 7/31/2006 9:47:06 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air leak psssssssss > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> > > Dennis, > > Ok thats all well and fine but. the book says to add oil every 100 hours or so.. How do you get the oil there??? It wont make it thru the system by shooting it in with the scuba set up. I will assume that oil needs to be shot into both fittings (top and bottom) for this to be achieved. Is this correct? I planned on resealing both cylinders anyway but was more concerned with getting the oil there to keep from trashing the new seals. Apparently sitting damages the seals. Hopefully the cylinders are not built like the rest of the plane. LOL > [Laughing] > > -------- > It's not a real world war untill France surenders! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51012#51012 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:49:43 AM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: manual for Yak 52
    In a message dated 7/31/2006 7:46:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, fanush@coetzervennote.co.za writes: I would like to know if anyone has a manual for the Yak 52 in electronic format and in English? It's available on CD at the RPA online store. See link below. Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox RPA On-line Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Home 415-380-0907 Eves Cell 415-307-2405 Days http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx


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    Time: 11:15:11 AM PST US
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> Viperdoc.... No ....but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express....... Should I assme that you are a Herpetologist? Thanks for the info! -------- It's not a real world war untill France surenders! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51107#51107


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    Time: 11:36:07 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Yes I do deal with Snakes, but not the cold blooded reptilian types. That is the sqadron identfier for the 160th FS @ Dannelly ANG, Montgomery,AL. An F-16 Viper squadron (even though Gen Creech said not jet of his would be named after a snake). Hence the call sign "viperdoc". Viperdoc > [Original Message] > From: flir47 <me262pilot@comcast.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 7/31/2006 1:23:26 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air leak psssssssss > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> > > Viperdoc.... > > No ....but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express....... > Should I assme that you are a Herpetologist? > > Thanks for the info! > > -------- > It's not a real world war untill France surenders! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51107#51107 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:54:16 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: manual for Yak 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> What type of manual are you looking for? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:47 PM > --> Yak-List message posted by: Fanus coetzer > <fanush@coetzervennote.co.za> > > Hi all > > I would like to know if anyone has a manual for the Yak 52 in electronic > format and in English? > > Would appreciate help on this. > > Fanus > ZU-YAK > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 12:29:33 PM PST US
    From: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Altimeter help
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net> Hi all; I'm going to put a Russian altimeter in the rear position of the SU-29, just gotta have meters... I now have the altimeter but need the attach ring (?) This is a ring that apparently slips on from the back side and catches on a lip on the face side. It has the needed screw holes/fasteners to affix the altimeter to the panel. Anybody got some? Please and thank you. Rick b


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    Time: 01:18:27 PM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Altimeter help
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> If you cannot find one locally I have then in my stock $10.00 each Spare serviceable metric alt $25.00 Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Basiliere Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:29 PM --> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net> Hi all; I'm going to put a Russian altimeter in the rear position of the SU-29, just gotta have meters... I now have the altimeter but need the attach ring (?) This is a ring that apparently slips on from the back side and catches on a lip on the face side. It has the needed screw holes/fasteners to affix the altimeter to the panel. Anybody got some? Please and thank you. Rick b


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    Time: 01:24:42 PM PST US
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> Well thats cool and.... I wish I could say the same but....... I'm stuck fixing an old Russian tool shed that I'm flyin..... You a 16 Pilot???? -------- It's not a real world war untill France surenders! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51160#51160


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    Time: 02:53:40 PM PST US
    From: gena perevedentsev <genaperevedent@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/29/06
    --> Yak-List message posted by: gena perevedentsev <genaperevedent@yahoo.co.uk> Appoligies for interruption.Issue not entirely related to magneto coil problem. During this very hot days occasions of fuel pump cavitation might be present. Returning to magneto coils, defects with symptoms identical, we cured by changing HT leads in some instances. Gena. --- Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found > in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes > the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features > Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the > plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a > generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2006-07-29.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2006-07-29.txt > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat > 07/29/06: 6 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:58 AM - M14P misfiring (Bruce Thomas) > 2. 04:27 AM - Re: M14P misfiring (A. Dennis > Savarese) > 3. 03:52 PM - Re: M14P misfiring (Roger Kemp) > 4. 04:21 PM - Re: M14P misfiring (A. Dennis > Savarese) > 5. 04:36 PM - Misfiring (Roger Kemp) > 6. 07:28 PM - MiG-21 Heads Up Display (Tim > Gagnon) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:58:38 AM PST US > From: "Bruce Thomas" <bvthomas@bigpond.com> > Subject: Yak-List: M14P misfiring > > Hi All, > I have a problem that I will tell you about in the > hope that somebody > can throw some light on it. > Last Wednesday Garry Mitchell of Australian Air > ferry and myself took > off from White Waltham Airfield In the UK in my > newly acquired Yak 18T. > We were bound for Genoa Italy as the first leg of a > long trip which was > to end in Melbourne Australia. > After 30 minutes flying we cleared English airspace > and were handed to > Paris control and were given clearance to climb to > 8000 ft. from 2500ft > over the English channel, shortly after passing > through 3500ft the motor > at climb power,82%, the engine gave one cough as if > power was completely > turned off then instantly back on. > > This concerned us, but it continued to run well and > smoothly, Ok as > smoothly as a M14P can , then about one minute later > all hell broke > loose; It began coughing and popping and loosing > power. The fuel and oil > pressure gauges were oscillating to zero then almost > instantly back to > full pressure again ( I don't know if this was a > cause or an effect ) > however it continued to run albeit without much > power, Garry tried > various minor adjustments without being too > adventurous as we were over > water at this stage and didn't want to kill what > power we had. > . > We declared an emergency and London control vectored > us back towards > Shoreham airfield at Brighton, about 12 miles back, > luckily we made it > having lost about 2500ft. > As we dropped the gear and flap then went to full > fine pitch prior to > landing, the banging and backfiring stopped and we > were able to land > normally, the motor ran well during taxi and also > ran cleanly at 65% for > 30 sec, at shut down. > > We rang Russian engineering at White Waltham and ran > the symptoms past > Genna and Atur > and they thought it was magnetos, and bought two new > units to Shoreham > next morning and fitted them. Did comprehensive run > up checks and > pronounced it cured, > > Alex Berry , the previous owner, then flew her back > to White Waltham, > without incident, to be dissembled and packed into a > container to be > shipped to Australia as both Garry and I at this > point decided that we > didn't have the confidence to attempt another 12000 > mile trip again. > > On reflection we are inclined to think that it was > fuel starvation, > rather than magneto's that caused the problem, and > will disassemble the > entire fuel supply system when it gets here. > > This is where I am looking for assistance, has > anybody out there had a > similar occurrence, > or has any suggestions on what it may be and how to > cure it once and for > all. > > One other point, I fitted an ignition harness from > Dennis prior to the > flight and the engine checks > at the 100 hourly indicated smoother running, > however this is not the > cause as it has done the same thing previously, but > was put down to > carby icing, a reason that I accepted at the time > but which I now do not > believe. Incidentally at the time it was CAVOC and > 30o C so icing was > impossible on this day as it was on the previous > occasion. I have since > found out that the last time it was 24o C and fine. > > Sorry about the long winded explanation, but it has > me stumped and I > hope some of the vast knowledge available on this > list will point me in > the right direction to avoid repitition when she > arrives home. > > Kind Regards Bruce Thomas > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:27:35 AM PST US > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P misfiring > > Bruce, > I have seen this problem several times before. When > it happens, it > typically happens somewhere between the initial 20 > and 35 minutes of > flight. It has always been a bad coil breaking down > in one of the mags. > The symptom is an engine "cough" which feels like a > complete engine > shutdown for a half second or so. It DOES get your > attention. You will > have fly the airplane over your airfield for 20 - 40 > minutes hoping the > engine cough will show up again. When it does, > switch to one mag then > the other. Whichever mag coil has failed will > definitely be > discernable. Remove the suspected mag and replace > the coil. Bench > === message truncated == ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html


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    Time: 03:13:06 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2006 Highlights - Pics..
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net> I have not had time to post all the pics, but here is a some of the better ones that I was able to throw together out of the ~ 1,000 or so collected from everyone.. http://www.mcgirt.net/yak/Oshkosh_2006/Oshkosh_2006_Highlights/default.htm David "Talon" McGirt


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    Time: 03:35:19 PM PST US
    From: "david stroud" <dstroud@storm.ca>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2006 Tragedy
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "david stroud" <dstroud@storm.ca> I'm saddened to announce the death of our local EAA Chapter 245 President in an accident at Oshkosh this past Sunday. Gary Palmer, 63, of Ottawa Ontario was a passenger in an RV homebuilt piloted by our local RAA President, Bill Reed. While holding on the ground for instructions, they were overtaken by a Grumman Avenger. Gary died of prop strike injuries on the scene and Bill escaped unscathed. Take care lads...this is supposed to be fun. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada C-FDWS Christavia Fairchild 51 early construction


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    Time: 03:44:40 PM PST US
    From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter help
    I might once I get all my tools. Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net> wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere Hi all; I'm going to put a Russian altimeter in the rear position of the SU-29, just gotta have meters... I now have the altimeter but need the attach ring (?) This is a ring that apparently slips on from the back side and catches on a lip on the face side. It has the needed screw holes/fasteners to affix the altimeter to the panel. Anybody got some? Please and thank you. Rick b --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 04:25:57 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> You can add oil to both sides of the actuators by removing the both the UP and DOWN flexible lines and putting machine oil in the flexible line and refitting it to the actuator. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:38 AM > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> > > Dennis, > > Ok that?Ts all well and fine but?. the book says to add oil every 100 > hours or so?.. How do you get the oil there??? It won?Tt make it thru > the system by shooting it in with the scuba set up. I will assume that oil > needs to be shot into both fittings (top and bottom) for this to be > achieved. Is this correct? I planned on resealing both cylinders anyway > but was more concerned with getting the oil there to keep from trashing > the new seals. Apparently sitting damages the seals. Hopefully the > cylinders are not built like the rest of the plane. LOL > [Laughing] > > -------- > It's not a real world war untill France surenders! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51012#51012 > > >


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    Time: 05:15:48 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor 2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM. As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less if everything goes according to plan. The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work, and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade. Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server, and List message distribution will function as normal. This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following the upgrade! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 06:55:45 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter help
    ???? Doc ----- Original Message ----- Sent: 7/31/2006 5:53:15 PM How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 06:57:27 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Air leak psssssssss
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Flight Surgeon. Doc > [Original Message] > From: flir47 <me262pilot@comcast.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 7/31/2006 3:38:07 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air leak psssssssss > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> > > Well thats cool and.... I wish I could say the same but....... I'm stuck fixing an old Russian tool shed that I'm flyin..... You a 16 Pilot???? > > -------- > It's not a real world war untill France surenders! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51160#51160 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:05:42 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2006 Tragedy
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> A truely sad time for all of the EAA community. Our prayers and thoughts are with Mr. Palmer's family. Viperdoc > [Original Message] > From: david stroud <dstroud@storm.ca> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 7/31/2006 5:42:49 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Oshkosh 2006 Tragedy > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "david stroud" <dstroud@storm.ca> > > I'm saddened to announce the death of our local EAA Chapter 245 > President in an accident at Oshkosh this past Sunday. Gary Palmer, > 63, of Ottawa Ontario was a passenger in an RV homebuilt piloted > by our local RAA President, Bill Reed. While holding on the ground > for instructions, they were overtaken by a Grumman Avenger. Gary > died of prop strike injuries on the scene and Bill escaped unscathed. > Take care lads...this is supposed to be fun. > > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada > C-FDWS Christavia > Fairchild 51 early construction > > > > > > >




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