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1. 01:20 AM - Re: ARS Photos (Brandon Tucker)
2. 11:40 AM - Frank complaining (Roger Baker)
3. 07:01 PM - Re: Frank complaining (Ron Davis)
4. 07:37 PM - Re: Frank complaining (Frank Haertlein)
5. 07:55 PM - Re: Frank complaining (Stephen Fox)
6. 08:27 PM - Re: Frank complaining (Frank Haertlein)
7. 09:55 PM - Helmet? (Shinden33)
8. 10:10 PM - Re: ARS Photos (Brandon Tucker)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Frank,
Good question. The professional printer I bought
costs about $600 new. The paper that I use ranges
from $1 a sheet for Matte, to over $2 a sheet for
glossy. I have already spent over $200 in print
cartridges. The cylinders I use to ship run $3 each,
and the slowest shipping option to a location only 400
miles away was $4. I just shipped 9 prints to the
Virgin Islands. That shipping was $8. It took me
about 3 hours to perform the photo shop touch-ups /
color adjustments, and to print them. Also, they are
not $20 each - only for the first (including shipping,
not plus shipping). I am only asking him for $80 for
his 9 prints. (some were only 6x8).
The only reason that I offered this service is
because Ray asked my permission a couple of months ago
to have prints made of the pictures that I took, and I
think he paid 3 or 4 times the amount, without any
shippng involved. I figure that if I sell a several
hundred prints, I might actually cover my costs. So
far I have sold 11. The first two I exchanged for 3
cold delicious beers.
If you ask anyone who attended Desert Thunder II,
where I had cold beer (that came out of my pocket)
waiting at my trailer on the flight line upon arrival
- or anyone who attended ARS, where I volunteered 14+
hours a day - they will tell you that I am not in this
to make money. I do it because I love being around
these amazing airplanes, the scent of 100LL, the low
frequency rumble of a radial, and the gathering of
some of the best aviators I have had the pleasure of
flying with. Besides, the military pays me such a
huge sum that I am already rich...
Respectfully,
Brandon Tucker
"GED"
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Frank complaining |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Frank,
Your message complaining about Brandon's price for a photo
print struck me as very inappropriate.
He went to the trouble (at his own expense) to be where there
were pictures to be taken, he invested A LOT in his camera equipment,
he went to the trouble of creating a web page so everybody could see
the pictures in the first place, he invested in a very high quality
printer, goes to the trouble of maintaining supplies for the printer,
uses his valuable time to make the prints (and correspond with those
that want them); then has to go to the trouble of getting mailing
supplies...and then has to go to the post office to mail them (I
would pay $20 just to not to have to go to the post office).
I find it amazing that you, who probably has no real interest
in these photos as a subject of or buyer of them, come along in a
public forum and whine about the price. If you find the price
offensive, you can simply flippen not buy one of these prints.
I don't see where it's any of your business what Brandon
charges for his prints.
Roger Baker
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Time: 06:22:45 PM PST US
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Brandon
20 bucks per print from an Epson printer plus shipping costs seems
high. Why
so much for a single print?
Frank
Brandon wrote................
Gents,
I have had a few inquiries about photos from ARS 2006....... If
anyone
wants prints, let me know. They will be $20 each including shipping,
and
$10 for each additional print that I can fit in the tube. Just look
at this
website:
Message 3
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| Subject: | Re: Frank complaining |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <L39parts@hotmail.com>
Roger,
Are you officially taking over for Ernie? Hope so, then all we'll need is a
Brian...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:33 AM
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
>
> Frank,
>
> Your message complaining about Brandon's price for a photo print
> struck me as very inappropriate.
>
> He went to the trouble (at his own expense) to be where there were
> pictures to be taken, he invested A LOT in his camera equipment, he went
> to the trouble of creating a web page so everybody could see the pictures
> in the first place, he invested in a very high quality printer, goes to
> the trouble of maintaining supplies for the printer, uses his valuable
> time to make the prints (and correspond with those that want them); then
> has to go to the trouble of getting mailing supplies...and then has to go
> to the post office to mail them (I would pay $20 just to not to have to
> go to the post office).
>
> I find it amazing that you, who probably has no real interest in
> these photos as a subject of or buyer of them, come along in a public
> forum and whine about the price. If you find the price offensive, you
> can simply flippen not buy one of these prints.
>
> I don't see where it's any of your business what Brandon charges for
> his prints.
>
> Roger Baker
> ________________________________________________________________________
> _______________
>
>
> Time: 06:22:45 PM PST US
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Brandon
>
> 20 bucks per print from an Epson printer plus shipping costs seems high.
> Why
> so much for a single print?
>
> Frank
>
> Brandon wrote................
> Gents,
>
> I have had a few inquiries about photos from ARS 2006....... If
> anyone
> wants prints, let me know. They will be $20 each including shipping, and
> $10 for each additional print that I can fit in the tube. Just look at
> this
> website:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Frank complaining |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Roger
I've gone to the trouble to provide all kinds of information (pictures,
maintenance tips, etc) and never charged a thing for them.
I've done this for the benefit of the list since it's inception.
That's what makes this list great. I did my part for the benefit of the list
and so have many others........free of charge.
For example, I may have relevant safety issues with our planes that can save
your life. Do you think I should charge for them because of the effort I
went through to learn about them?
Isn't that information 10 times more valuable than some pictures?
Well, then, why did I give it away for free?
Makes $20 pictures sound a little self serving......doesn't it?
Maybe we should all charge to impart our knowledge?
I don't mind a reasonable charge but $20 per pic is too much.
Sorry, your argument rings hollow. Take a hike!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Baker
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:34 AM
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Frank,
Your message complaining about Brandon's price for a photo
print struck me as very inappropriate.
He went to the trouble (at his own expense) to be where there
were pictures to be taken, he invested A LOT in his camera equipment,
he went to the trouble of creating a web page so everybody could see
the pictures in the first place, he invested in a very high quality
printer, goes to the trouble of maintaining supplies for the printer,
uses his valuable time to make the prints (and correspond with those
that want them); then has to go to the trouble of getting mailing
supplies...and then has to go to the post office to mail them (I
would pay $20 just to not to have to go to the post office).
I find it amazing that you, who probably has no real interest
in these photos as a subject of or buyer of them, come along in a
public forum and whine about the price. If you find the price
offensive, you can simply flippen not buy one of these prints.
I don't see where it's any of your business what Brandon
charges for his prints.
Roger Baker
________________________________________________________________________
_______________
Time: 06:22:45 PM PST US
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Brandon
20 bucks per print from an Epson printer plus shipping costs seems
high. Why
so much for a single print?
Frank
Brandon wrote................
Gents,
I have had a few inquiries about photos from ARS 2006....... If
anyone
wants prints, let me know. They will be $20 each including shipping,
and
$10 for each additional print that I can fit in the tube. Just look
at this
website:
Message 5
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| Subject: | Re: Frank complaining |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Stephen Fox <jsfox@adelphia.net>
Gentlemen take it off the list.
On Aug 3, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Roger
>
> I've gone to the trouble to provide all kinds of information
> (pictures,
> maintenance tips, etc) and never charged a thing for them.
>
> I've done this for the benefit of the list since it's inception.
>
> That's what makes this list great. I did my part for the benefit of
> the list
> and so have many others........free of charge.
>
> For example, I may have relevant safety issues with our planes that
> can save
> your life. Do you think I should charge for them because of the
> effort I
> went through to learn about them?
>
> Isn't that information 10 times more valuable than some pictures?
>
> Well, then, why did I give it away for free?
>
> Makes $20 pictures sound a little self serving......doesn't it?
>
> Maybe we should all charge to impart our knowledge?
>
> I don't mind a reasonable charge but $20 per pic is too much.
>
> Sorry, your argument rings hollow. Take a hike!
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Baker
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:34 AM
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
>
> Frank,
>
> Your message complaining about Brandon's price for a photo
> print struck me as very inappropriate.
>
> He went to the trouble (at his own expense) to be where there
> were pictures to be taken, he invested A LOT in his camera equipment,
> he went to the trouble of creating a web page so everybody could see
> the pictures in the first place, he invested in a very high quality
> printer, goes to the trouble of maintaining supplies for the printer,
> uses his valuable time to make the prints (and correspond with those
> that want them); then has to go to the trouble of getting mailing
> supplies...and then has to go to the post office to mail them (I
> would pay $20 just to not to have to go to the post office).
>
> I find it amazing that you, who probably has no real interest
> in these photos as a subject of or buyer of them, come along in a
> public forum and whine about the price. If you find the price
> offensive, you can simply flippen not buy one of these prints.
>
> I don't see where it's any of your business what Brandon
> charges for his prints.
>
> Roger Baker
> ______________________________________________________________________
> __
> _______________
>
>
> Time: 06:22:45 PM PST US
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Brandon
>
> 20 bucks per print from an Epson printer plus shipping costs seems
> high. Why
> so much for a single print?
>
> Frank
>
> Brandon wrote................
> Gents,
>
> I have had a few inquiries about photos from ARS 2006....... If
> anyone
> wants prints, let me know. They will be $20 each including shipping,
> and
> $10 for each additional print that I can fit in the tube. Just look
> at this
> website:
>
>
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| Subject: | Frank complaining |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Stephen
Why didn't you charge money for the
following..............................?????
Turns out the oil return line coming from sensors to left side of oil
tank and a oil/air separator line that runs behind it were hard up
against each other. So hard in fact that the oil/air line had worn
through the oil line creating a hole in the oil line about 3/4" to 1"
long.
Frank
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" <shinden33@earthlink.net>
All,
I'm considering buying an HGU-55 through flightsuits.com and have heard many
pro's and con's. One main one I have heard is that folks have had comm
issues with this set up. Anyone have any comments or suggestions on the
comm issue or helmets in general?
Scott
Yak-52
N8252
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gents,
I retract the original offer. It never dawned on
me that it would cause such issues. My pictures are
still up on the website in full resolution to do with
as you please, which I apparently did for my own
amusement and personal enrichment. My apologies to
everyone who wasted time reading about my price
gouging. I will make myself scarce for a while.
Frank, I look forward to meeting you at an ARS
event in the future. I'll be the young one with a
camera and a smile. Please let me know if there are
any prints you would like - free of charge.
Respectfully,
Brandon Tucker
GED
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