---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/07/06: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:45 AM - Re: tachometer troubles (doug sapp) 2. 08:19 AM - Manuals (Jim) 3. 08:25 AM - Re: Manuals (Kregg Victory) 4. 08:53 AM - Re: Manuals (Scooter) 5. 08:54 AM - Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? (Tim Gagnon) 6. 10:12 AM - Re: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? (Roger Kemp) 7. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Manuals (Larry Pine) 8. 11:22 AM - Re: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? (cjpilot710@aol.com) 9. 12:43 PM - Re: Manuals (Scooter) 10. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: Manuals (Larry Pine) 11. 01:35 PM - Cool Yak-50 Pic (Tim Gagnon) 12. 01:41 PM - Re: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? (Tim Gagnon) 13. 01:44 PM - Re: OSH Attendees (forrest johnson) 14. 03:14 PM - Re: OSH Attendees (ByronMFox@aol.com) 15. 06:03 PM - Re: Re: Manuals (A. Dennis Savarese) 16. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: Manuals (Terry Lewis) 17. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: Manuals (A. Dennis Savarese) 18. 09:13 PM - Re: Helmet? (ByronMFox@aol.com) 19. 09:37 PM - Re: - Vynal graphics (fish@aviation-tech.com) 20. 10:43 PM - ACF50 in the air system (tamara_b@telus.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:37 AM PST US From: "doug sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: tachometer troubles --> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" Elmar, The tach generators are different for the 1 and 2 needle models. Contact me off list, I have them in stock. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tamara_b@telus.net Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Yak-List: tachometer troubles --> Yak-List message posted by: tamara_b@telus.net Gentlemen, I replaced last week on my CJ the 2 needle tach with a brandnew single needle tach. Now the single needle tach shows more than the actual RPMs, e.g. it shows 1000 RPM instead of 700 RPM, or 3000 RPM instead of the actual 2000 RPM. Do I need an inline resistor kit, or are those single needle tachs not compatible with the 2 needle tachs? Any ideas? Thank you in advance. Regards Elmar (C-FTKL) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:07 AM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Yak-List: Manuals I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. Jim Selby ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:48 AM PST US From: "Kregg Victory" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Manuals Jim, I havn't had any experience with the FAA and Yak-18 manuals, but I do have someone that can transcribe the manual from Russian to English if it comes to that. Kregg Victory _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: Yak-List: Manuals I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. Jim Selby ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:37 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Manuals From: "Scooter" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals. jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote: > I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. > > Jim Selby Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53077#53077 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:10 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? Contact me off list... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53078#53078 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:44 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" RPA? If so go to the RPA website. It will show the rep's regions. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Tim Gagnon > To: > Date: 8/7/2006 11:03:27 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? > > Contact me off list... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53078#53078 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:26 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or approved modified maintenance manuals. I think you are referring to normal experimental catagory where maintenance manuals are not required only IAW FAR 43.13 APP D. Larry N8181C A&P Scooter wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals. jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote: > I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. > > Jim Selby Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53077#53077 Larry Pine --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:28 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? I do believe that Ohio is in the North Cental region and the new director elected there is David Mills. His e-mail is dmills@millschevy.com. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:43 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Manuals From: "Scooter" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft? [quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or approved modified maintenance manuals. I think you are referring to normal experimental catagory where maintenance manuals are not required only IAW FAR 43.13 APP D. Larry N8181C A&P Scooter wrote: [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals. jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote: > I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. > > Jim See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40762/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53154#53154 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:45 PM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals You are permitted to work on the aircraft but to only things listed in the FARs under preventative maintenance or under the supervision of a A&P. A pilot can make a log book entry about preventative maintenance performed only. An A&P still must sign off annuals (phase inspections) and Maintenance items. Larry Scooter wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft? [quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or approved modified maintenance manuals. I think you are referring to normal experimental catagory where maintenance manuals are not required only IAW FAR 43.13 APP D. Larry N8181C A&P Scooter wrote: [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals. jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote: > I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas. > > Jim See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40762/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53154#53154 Larry Pine --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:15 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Cool Yak-50 Pic From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53171#53171 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:48 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" viperdoc(at)mindspring.co wrote: > RPA? > If so go to the RPA website. It will show the rep's regions. > Doc > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tim Gagnon > > To: > > Date: 8/7/2006 11:03:27 AM > > Subject: Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? > > > > > > > > Who is the director for the region that includes Ohio?? > > > > Contact me off list... > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53078#53078 > > > > There used to be a little map of the US which you could click on to show the reps and all the owners in that region. I cannot seem to find it anymore. > > > > I will drop David a note. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53173#53173 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:00 PM PST US From: "forrest johnson" Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Attendees I flew my CJ6 to MTW. Stayed in MTW . Went to OSH. Flew the mass form on Mon. Tues Friday. Hope this is the info you needed. Enjoyed flying with you and your brother. Forrest ----- Original Message ----- From: ByronMFox@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Yak-List: OSH Attendees I need some bits of information for the next issue of Red Alert: 1. Did you attend OSH? 2. Did you fly your plane, and, if so, what type is it? 3. Did you go to both MTW & OSH, or just OSH? 4. Did you fly in the mass OSH show formations? 5. Did anyone count the number of L-39s in attendance? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Blitz Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 Cell 415-307-2405 Home 415-380-0907 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:01 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Attendees Thanks, Forrest. ...Blitz ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:40 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals Larry, This issue has been cussed and discussed for years on this list. To repeat, if you read FAR 43.1(b), it states " This part does not apply to any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate, unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness certificate for that aircraft. " Therefore, FAR 43 in its entirety does not apply to our aircraft. FAR 43 covers Maintenance, Preventive Maintenance, Rebuilding and Alterations. The only time you need an A&P (not an I.A.) is for the annual condition inspection sign-off. The Annual Condition Inspection IAW your Operating Limitations must meet the scope and detail of FAR 43 Appendix D. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals You are permitted to work on the aircraft but to only things listed in the FARs under preventative maintenance or under the supervision of a A&P. A pilot can make a log book entry about preventative maintenance performed only. An A&P still must sign off annuals (phase inspections) and Maintenance items. Larry Scooter wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft? [quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:49 PM PST US From: "Terry Lewis" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals Dennis, I absolute agree with your reading of the FAR's concerning maintenance on an experimental aircraft. As far as the insurance issue , I'm sure the companies have all of this built into the price structure. Experimental aircraft are as reliable as the average spam can and may be better. Terry Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Dennis Savarese To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals Larry, This issue has been cussed and discussed for years on this list. To repeat, if you read FAR 43.1(b), it states " This part does not apply to any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate, unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness certificate for that aircraft. " Therefore, FAR 43 in its entirety does not apply to our aircraft. FAR 43 covers Maintenance, Preventive Maintenance, Rebuilding and Alterations. The only time you need an A&P (not an I.A.) is for the annual condition inspection sign-off. The Annual Condition Inspection IAW your Operating Limitations must meet the scope and detail of FAR 43 Appendix D. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals You are permitted to work on the aircraft but to only things listed in the FARs under preventative maintenance or under the supervision of a A&P. A pilot can make a log book entry about preventative maintenance performed only. An A&P still must sign off annuals (phase inspections) and Maintenance items. Larry Scooter wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft? [quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:28 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals And I forgot to add, no A&P signature is required for any repairs made to the airplane. And A&P must sign the annual condition inspection certifying the airplane is in a condition for safe operation. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Lewis To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Manuals Dennis, I absolute agree with your reading of the FAR's concerning maintenance on an experimental aircraft. As far as the insurance issue , I'm sure the companies have all of this built into the price structure. Experimental aircraft are as reliable as the average spam can and may be better. Terry Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Dennis Savarese To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: =ashBack] Manuals Larry, This issue has been cussed and discussed for years on this list. To repeat, if you read FAR 43.1(b), it states " This part does not apply to any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate, unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness certificate for that aircraft. " Therefore, FAR 43 in its entirety does not apply to our aircraft. FAR 43 covers Maintenance, Preventive Maintenance, Rebuilding and Alterations. The only time you need an A&P (not an I.A.) is for the annual condition inspection sign-off. The Annual Condition Inspection IAW your Operating Limitations must meet the scope and detail of FAR 43 Appendix D. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pine To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: [LashBack] Manuals You are permitted to work on the aircraft but to only things listed in the FARs under preventative maintenance or under the supervision of a A&P. A pilot can make a log book entry about preventative maintenance performed only. An A&P still must sign off annuals (phase inspections) and Maintenance items. Larry Scooter wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft? [quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:51 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Helmet? In a message dated 8/6/2006 3:32:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, kpickford@xtra.co.nz writes: Have a look at this http://www.campbellaeroclassics.com/default.asp Have no personal experience - but believe they are very good - Individually made (in case you have a different shape head) No connection etc Saw these at OSH. Very slick, but $1700 US (gulp!) Also, I think Pappy Goolsby may have had some comm. problems with his leather Campbell helmet. ...Blitz ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:02 PM PST US From: fish@aviation-tech.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: - Vynal graphics --> Yak-List message posted by: fish@aviation-tech.com Group, I have found some one to make Vynal graphics for our aircraft. What I will need is a digital photo and basic deminisions and he will digitally recreate the emblems for us. I can send a full size paper copy for you to review prior to purchasing (small fee). Thanks John Fischer Yak-52, N213YA California City, CA ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:00 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: ACF50 in the air system From: tamara_b@telus.net --> Yak-List message posted by: tamara_b@telus.net Gentlemen, did anybody out there put ever ACF50 as a corrosion treatment in the air system of a CJ? It was recommended to me by several AMEs but I am still hesitant. Regards Elmar (C-FTKL)