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1. 12:46 AM - Ops Limits (Shinden33)
2. 04:18 AM - Dzus Removal (Craig Payne)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: Frank Said.............. (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 04:53 AM - Re: Ops Limits[LashBack] (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:18 AM - Re: Frank Said.............. (Tim Gagnon)
6. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: RedStar Newletter/Mag (David McGirt)
7. 08:55 AM - Re: ACF50 in the air system (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
8. 09:11 AM - Re: Dzus Removal (doug sapp)
9. 10:30 AM - Commercial Ticket in the Yak (Ashley Battles)
10. 05:35 PM - Re: Dzus Removal (ggg6@att.net)
11. 09:22 PM - airshows (Aviatre@aol.com)
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All,
I submitted for ops limits when I got my Yak in January. I still don't have
them and the Van Nuys FSDO just got back to me in that last week after
months of pestering with an unruly list of things they need. First they
want an application for an airworthiness certificate. The airplane already
has an airworthiness certificate. They want me to give them a map depicting
all of the local densely populated areas. They want copies of my Phase 1
paperwork. They want copies of my W&B paperwork. When I started this all
they asked for was a copy of the old ops limits and a request for new ones.
I don't think they are handling this situation correctly. Can anyone shed
some light/experiences.
Scott
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I hate to interrupt all the fun on the 'list lately but does anyone have a slick
way of removing Dzus grommets that crimp the studs? Looks like a hacksaw job
otherwise.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Frank Said.............. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
What does this have to do with Yak's and CJ's? Please take this off-list.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:06 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Frank Said..............
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
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> Tim Gagnoff wrote...
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> You remind me of the people that spit on our service members when coming
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> No, it's not disgraceful to point out my military service. I'm proud of
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> That is until I realize it has served to secure liberty for guys like you
> and Barry (Big-Dog-Butthead).
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> Yea, you can pipe up and spew your sh!t but don't forget who gave you that
> freedom........
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> So you want to lecture me on your version of moral superiority?
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> The person selling pics for $20 each made it a point to elaborate on his
> buddies military service while flying military aircraft. Fine, I got no
> problem with it and support him.
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> Yet you wrote...........
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> OK then, Tim.........will you then give the same vitriol to the person
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> elaborated on his military flying service to give justification in his
> efforts to sell pics for $20?
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> Since it serves your immediate purposes I doubt it.......it's called a
> double standard......you f^*ing j&$k!
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> Frank
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> Ps... There's a camaraderie between military service members that you will
> likely never understand......it has do with the willingness to give your
> life for your country. I'm certain you have never experienced that........
> Your words trumpet your ignorance.
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> PSS..... Is it possible to arrive at a point to where one becomes ashamed
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> have served his country when it's occupied by the likes of "Leftist Barry"
> or Tim Gagnoff?.............I'm beginning to think it wasn't worth it!
> Reminds me of the current crop of politicians who choose to serve their
> own,
> personal agenda without regard to the interests of the American people.
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| Subject: | Re: Ops Limits[LashBack] |
With most OL's, they have a home base airport named in them. Since the
OL's and Airworthiness Certificate are married together, whenever the
airplane is sold and/or physically moved to another airport it requires
the issuance of a new Airworthiness Certificate and new OL's. Before
the FSDO can issue an Airworthiness Certificate and OL's you must first
have the new registration in your hands. Then you must complete the
Application for Airworthiness Certificate form and present it, copies of
your log books showing the last condition inspection sign off, the old
OL's, sometimes a copy of the W&B (just depends on the inspector) and
whatever else the inspector requests. Typically the inspector uses the
previous set of OL's and verifies that all is up to date in accordance
with FAA Order 8130.2F. As for Phase 1, all that is required is that
the log book reflect the completion of phase 1 and is signed off by the
person/owner who completed Phase 1. You may want to ask what
"paperwork" he is expecting to see since it only requires a statement
signed off in the log books.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shinden33
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:43 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Ops Limits[LashBack]
All,
I submitted for ops limits when I got my Yak in January. I still
don't have them and the Van Nuys FSDO just got back to me in that last
week after months of pestering with an unruly list of things they need.
First they want an application for an airworthiness certificate. The
airplane already has an airworthiness certificate. They want me to give
them a map depicting all of the local densely populated areas. They
want copies of my Phase 1 paperwork. They want copies of my W&B
paperwork. When I started this all they asked for was a copy of the old
ops limits and a request for new ones. I don't think they ar e handling
this situation correctly. Can anyone shed some light/experiences.
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Frank Said.............. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co wrote:
> What does this have to do with Yak's and CJ's? Please take this off-list.
> Dennis
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You are right....sorry. I just get fired up with crap like this.
Frank, check your PM's.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54048#54048
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| Subject: | Re: RedStar Newletter/Mag |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
Glad to hear it, I am sure the advertisers would appreciate the added
exposure that they are paying for as well..
David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: RedStar Newletter/Mag
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Dave and Scooter,
The objective was / is to have the Magazine available online. Unfortunately
as this is a volunteer organization, sometimes things take a little longer
then expected. But it is in the plans.
Thanks for the good comments, it is always pleasant to know when your work
is appreciated. My team and I are already working on the fall issue, so look
for it in your mailbox some time in the near future.
In the mean time, if any of you have pictures of OSH / MTW, we could
certainly use some nice shots of our merry bunch.
cheers,
Dan Fortin
>From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Re: RedStar Newletter/Mag
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:43:10 -0700
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
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>Seems like the new newsletter/mag is a good incentive to get people to join
>and stay with RPA. Might be best not to give it away (via a publically
>accessable link). It really is nicely done.
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>Just my 2 cents.
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>david(at)mcgirt.net wrote:
> > I noticed that we still do not post the PDF version of the newsletter
>online, why is that? I have wanted to send a link to a few people, and we
>do not have it to link to?
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> > David
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53668#53668
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| Subject: | ACF50 in the air system |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Yeah... Happens when you put a tad too much oil into the system.
Learned this the hard way.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:32
Subject: RE: Yak-List: ACF50 in the air system
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Guys,
Anything you put in the air system should be looked at very carefully.
If it contains chemicals that will cause the rubber seals in the system
to swell it will cause you a ton of grief. So proceed with caution. My
advice is that if you are hell bent to use something other than what the
book calls for you should at least test whatever you use by applying it
to a seal and watching it for 72 hours or so. I have no experience with
ACF50 except to spray it on the skin laps of my float plane, it may be
just fine for use in the air system, I really have no idea. I do know
that in the past month I have sent new seal to a bunch of guys who
commented that all their seals were loose and sloppy....all swollen up.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert Starnes
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ACF50 in the air system
--> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
yes, I put ACF-50 in all the CJ's I maintain, both as an airframe spray
to prevent/ stop corrosion and also in the air system. ACF-50 is a water
displacer and will help prevent the water trapped in your system from
corroding up components such as air tanks, check valves, water
separator, snot bottle, etc. just add it like you would air tool oil
when you service your air system.
-Robert Starnes A&P
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Craig,
The only way I have been able to do the job is to buy a pair of side cutters
that has enough meat in the jaws to grind one side perfectly flat so that
you end up with a very fine flat (and very sharp) edge. Place the cutters
flat edge down and allow the sharp edges to go under the soft alu collar.
Next work around the Duz, pinching off the alu collar as you go around.
I do have the proper Chinese Duz fasteners if you need them. When restoring
the Miniyak I noticed the all the slots on the stock aircraft were in line
with the slip stream. When I attempted to replace the rusted Duz fasteners
with US fasteners I found that now all the slots were 90 degrees to the slip
stream. A very small point that I am sure no one would notice, but I wanted
it to be "as per".
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:17 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Yak-List: Dzus Removal
I hate to interrupt all the fun on the 'list lately but does anyone have a
slick way of removing Dzus grommets that crimp the studs? Looks like a
hacksaw job otherwise.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Commercial Ticket in the Yak |
Herb,
You can get your Commerical License in the Yak. Rodger Modglin received his
in his Yak 52. The examiner who gave him his checkride is a friend of mine
and I can get you his name and number if you would like to ask him any
specific questions. (I don't think he had been in any other Yaks besides
that one) When the examiner sent the paperwork into the FAA, they responded
back saying they could not issue a commercial ticket to Rodger because they
had no proof that the Yak was a complex aircraft...so you just might want to
include a picture of your airplane with the paperwork if you decide to do
it. ;)
Ashley
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Craig:
Gary Gabbard here, I just took about a hundred dzuses out of the sheet
metal on a Stearman, and the tool and the process that Doug discribed is the exact
process I had to use to get them out...
Gary
-------------- Original message from "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>: --------------
Craig,
The only way I have been able to do the job is to buy a pair of side cutters that
has enough meat in the jaws to grind one side perfectly flat so that you end
up with a very fine flat (and very sharp) edge. Place the cutters flat edge
down and allow the sharp edges to go under the soft alu collar. Next work around
the Duz, pinching off the alu collar as you go around.
I do have the proper Chinese Duz fasteners if you need them. When restoring the
Miniyak I noticed the all the slots on the stock aircraft were in line with
the slip stream. When I attempted to replace the rusted Duz fasteners with US
fasteners I found that now all the slots were 90 degrees to the slip stream.
A very small point that I am sure no one would notice, but I wanted it to be
"as per".
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:17 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Dzus Removal
I hate to interrupt all the fun on the 'list lately but does anyone have a slick
way of removing Dzus grommets that crimp the studs? Looks like a hacksaw job
otherwise.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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<P>Craig: </P>
<P> Gary Gabbard here, I just took about
a hundred dzuses out of the sheet metal on a Stearman, and the tool and the
process that Doug discribed is the exact process I had to use to get them
out... </P>
<P>Gary</P>
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<DIV><SPAN class=226560116-11082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Craig,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=226560116-11082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>The only way I
have been able to do the job is to buy a pair of side cutters that has
enough meat in the jaws to grind one side perfectly flat so that you end up with
a very fine flat (and very sharp) edge. Place the cutters flat edge
down and allow the sharp edges to go under the soft alu collar. Next work
around the Duz, pinching off the alu collar as you go around. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=226560116-11082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=226560116-11082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I do have the
proper Chinese Duz fasteners if you need them. When restoring the Miniyak
I noticed the all the slots on the stock aircraft were in line with the slip
stream. When I attempted to replace the rusted Duz fasteners with US
fasteners I found that now all the slots were 90 degrees to the slip stream.
A very small point that I am sure no one would notice, but I wanted it to
be "as per".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT color=#0000ff>Always Yakin,<BR>Doug Sapp</FONT> </P>
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<DIV>I hate to interrupt all the fun on the 'list lately but does anyone have a
slick way of removing Dzus grommets that crimp the studs? Looks like a hacksaw
job otherwise.</DIV>
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<DIV>Craig Payne</DIV>
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Hi All, I have been invited to Display my CJ at 2 Norcal Airshows. Tahoe
Airfest, a one day event, Sept. 2. up to Fifty Gallons of fuel.
Contact Rick, _tahoerick@earthlink.net_ (mailto:tahoerick@earthlink.net)
Redding, Sept, 30/Oct 1. A decent size airshow, considering where it is.
Contact Bob Renard, _plumbobsq@aol.com_ (mailto:plumbobsq@aol.com)
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