Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/22/06


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 08:10 AM - *** LAST DAY *** to book rooms for GED fly in (Charlie Lynch)
     2. 12:48 PM - Re: To flir47 (Craig Payne)
     3. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: To flir47 (Huis)
     4. 01:20 PM - Check out Google definition of failure (Huis)
     5. 01:38 PM - Re: Check out Google definition of failure (David McGirt)
     6. 02:28 PM - Re: Check out Google definition of failure (Roger Kemp)
     7. 06:57 PM - Re: To flir47 (flir47)
     8. 07:13 PM - Re: Check out Google definition of failure (ScottA)
     9. 08:16 PM - Re: Check out Google definition of failure (flir47)
    10. 09:00 PM - YAK-55M Tires ()
 
 
 


Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:10:25 AM PST US
    Subject: *** LAST DAY *** to book rooms for GED fly in
    From: "Charlie Lynch" <lynch@netjets.com>
    This Friday the 25th is the last day you can book your room at the special RPA rate for the October (12 -15) fly in and formation clinic at Georgetown, DE. This will be another fun event. Please book a room even if there is a chance you cannot come since you can always cancel your room 48 hours in advance. Make sure you mention the RPA to get the special rate... SLEEP INN & SUITES LEWES 1595 HIGHWAY ONE LEWES, DE 19958 USA Phone: 3026456464 Fax: 3026448897 Please let Dan Fortin know that you are coming. We will not have a check airman because no one who has signed up so far has required one. IF YOU WILL NEED A CHECK RIDE, LET DAN KNOW ASAP. Very best, Charlie Mr. Charles R. Lynch Vice President NetJets, Inc. - A Berkshire Hathaway Company 99 Winthrop Drive Riverside, CT 06878 (203) 637 - 2914 office (203) 637 - 4747 fax (732) 599 - 5473 cell Lynch@NetJets.com ********** This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message.


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 12:48:54 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: To flir47
    Just an observation here, long time owners of these aircraft recognize that Russian philosophy of design is different that what we see in our $1000 per/toliet seat U.S. government contracts. Russians are very practical, they matched the machine and material to the mission. The MiG is a good example, smooth rivets where needed, dome heads where not. Flying blowtorches for short range interceptors, super-efficient "Bears" for extreme long-range cruisers. Primary aerobatic trainers are built with gear that stands up to forced landings, bridge rivets that don't pull through. Ugly as sin, but then again they can't all be Chinese CJ's :>) Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:18:43 PM PST US
    From: "Huis" <huis@anfin.co.za>
    Subject: Re: To flir47
    Go to www.google.com and type "failure" then click on "I am feeling lucky" Wonder what is happening? Andre ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: yak-list Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: To flir47 Just an observation here, long time owners of these aircraft recognize that Russian philosophy of design is different that what we see in our $1000 per/toliet seat U.S. government contracts. Russians are very practical, they matched the machine and material to the mission. The MiG is a good example, smooth rivets where needed, dome heads where not. Flying blowtorches for short range interceptors, super-efficient "Bears" for extreme long-range cruisers. Primary aerobatic trainers are built with gear that stands up to forced landings, bridge rivets that don't pull through. Ugly as sin, but then again they can't all be Chinese CJ's :>) Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:20:26 PM PST US
    From: "Huis" <huis@anfin.co.za>
    Subject: Check out Google definition of failure
    Go to www.google.com and type "failure" then click on "I am feeling lucky" Wonder what is happening? Andre ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: yak-list Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: To flir47 Just an observation here, long time owners of these aircraft recognize that Russian philosophy of design is different that what we see in our $1000 per/toliet seat U.S. government contracts. Russians are very practical, they matched the machine and material to the mission. The MiG is a good example, smooth rivets where needed, dome heads where not. Flying blowtorches for short range interceptors, super-efficient "Bears" for extreme long-range cruisers. Primary aerobatic trainers are built with gear that stands up to forced landings, bridge rivets that don't pull through. Ugly as sin, but then again they can't all be Chinese CJ's :>) Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com


    Message 5


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:38:54 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Check out Google definition of failure
    Al Gore is on the board of Google.. think they like Republicans? _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Huis Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Yak-List: Check out Google definition of failure Go to www.google.com and type "failure" then click on "I am feeling lucky" Wonder what is happening? Andre ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne <mailto:cpayne@joimail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: To flir47 Just an observation here, long time owners of these aircraft recognize that Russian philosophy of design is different that what we see in our $1000 per/toliet seat U.S. government contracts. Russians are very practical, they matched the machine and material to the mission. The MiG is a good example, smooth rivets where needed, dome heads where not. Flying blowtorches for short range interceptors, super-efficient "Bears" for extreme long-range cruisers. Primary aerobatic trainers are built with gear that stands up to forced landings, bridge rivets that don't pull through. Ugly as sin, but then again they can't all be Chinese CJ's :>) Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com .com/Navigator?Yak-List


    Message 6


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 02:28:44 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Check out Google definition of failure
    Though that was the case. Was hesitant to say but...what an ass! Maybe the liberals need to check out You.tube at this url. www.youtube.com/v/-HlaVpqUXF0 Maybe Mr. Distortion will get the message! Probably not until their sabers are falling on the back of his liberal neck screaming the entire time"Daddy, you got to get me out of Viet Nam." They want me to go to the boonies to report on the war. Went home after 4 mo and never got a tour of the outback! Chicken &^%$#. Call that a Success! His name should be under Google for failure! Doc --- -- Original Message ----- From: David McGirt Sent: 8/22/2006 4:05:26 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Check out Google definition of failure Al Gore is on the board of Google.. think they like Republicans? From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Huis Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Yak-List: Check out Google definition of failure Go to www.google.com and type "failure" then click on "I am feeling lucky" Wonder what is happening? Andre ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: To flir47 Just an observation here, long time owners of these aircraft recognize that Russian philosophy of design is different that what we see in our $1000 per/toliet seat U.S. government contracts. Russians are very practical, they matched the machine and material to the mission. The MiG is a good example, smooth rivets where needed, dome heads where not. Flying blowtorches for short range interceptors, super-efficient "Bears" for extreme long-range cruisers. Primary aerobatic trainers are built with gear that stands up to forced landings, bridge rivets that don't pull through. Ugly as sin, but then again they can't all be Chinese CJ's :>) Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com .com/Navigator?Yak-List


    Message 7


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 06:57:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: To flir47
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> My Russian friend If you knew that the quality was there.. then you wouldnt be offended. Im glad we have guys like you to help us here on the net. Thank You! But This issue boils down to more than just simple mechanical issues. This has more to do with the horrible machining and, foreign material inclusions in surface of the dome. There are some aspects of this plane that I find are just great. This comes down to more than $100 toilet seats (although that is funny) and American arrogance. After 15 years in the aerospace industry ..I can tell you that U.S made aircraft parts are the best in the world! How about the wonderful 5mm sparkplug wires on the Yak???? Just like the HT cable on my lawn mower!!!! Yes they do workbut so did duct tape and corrugated plastic hose on Apollo 13. In closing . Im always the one sticking up for Russian planes when my Navy buddies spout off on how easy it was to shoot them out of the sky. -------- It's not a real world war untill France surenders! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56520#56520


    Message 8


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:13:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Check out Google definition of failure
    From: "ScottA" <s-aldrich@comcast.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "ScottA" <s-aldrich@comcast.net> Not sure what this has to do with YAKs but it has Nothing to do with anyone on the board at Google. It is called GoogleBombing and can be done to any search engine. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/googlebombing-failure.html Scott Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56525#56525


    Message 9


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:16:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Check out Google definition of failure
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net> Maybe we can Google bomb South Africa???? :P -------- It's not a real world war untill France surenders! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56560#56560


    Message 10


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 09:00:25 PM PST US
    From: <g.hendricks@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: YAK-55M Tires
    Hi All You Yak Experts, Don't laugh out there, but I just bought a YAK-55M, having little experience with YAKs & M-14Ps, and am not an A&P. I have read all the manuals, and have tons of questions for which that I'd like to get opinions & answers. So here goes the first installment: TIRES 1) Tires. The previous owners used retread 400x150 tires from two different US retread suppliers. From the logs the current set have 64 landings and my judgment says they need changing. The previous set of retreads were changed after only 39 landings. The wear pattern is completely smooth on one half and almost full tread on other half the tire. What's the usual number of landings you folks are getting out of tires (new or retreads) and what gives with the YAK-55 wear pattern? Is something out of adjustment or is this just the way they wear with spring gear. The book says the tires can be turned around which implies they wear more on one side than the other. 2) New Tires.I decided to start over with tires and bit the bullet for new tires from Desser. I bought Aero Classic 6 ply 400x150 which were the only tires that size I could readily find. When they arrived they seem to be the same as the retreads except they are at least 1.5 inches narrower tread width than the retreads of the same identical size. So what's the deal with the difference in size ? When I mount them and inflate them.can I expect they will expand to a comparable width.or is there something basic I'm missing about tire sizes ? 3) Tire pressure.The YAK-55M manual says inflate the tires to 3.0 +0.5 KF/CM2, which by my calculation is ~42psi, max 49psi. However, the new Desser 6 ply sidewall data says to inflate to a maximum of 30 psi. There is no inflation data on the sidewall of the retreads. Is this because Russian tires are 4-ply.I tried Desser for an answer and they don't know. 4) Tail wheel pressure.This airplane has a 200x80 tailwheel with a tube, and the Russian manuals are absolutely silent about inflation pressure. Can't find any data for a 200x80, but 30 psi seems to be about right.what are the rest of you folks using ? OPERATING LIMITATIONS 1) The markings for operating limitations on all the instruments are falling off and need replacement, which I thought would be straight forward.not so. The FARs are clear with respect to the airspeed indicator (redline, yellow arc and green arc, etc.), but totally ambiguous wrt to the other instrumentation. After looking at 7~8 cockpit photos of YAK-55s, YAK-52s, and a bunch of Sukhio's one thing is clear.no two are alike in the way the operating limits are marked. Anybody want to venture an opinion as to how to properly mark the Oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Fuel Pressure, and Cyl Hd Temp., Etc or is this totally my choice under Experimental - Exhibition ? Regards, George Hendricks N95YK




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   yak-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm
  • Full Archive Search Engine
  •   http://www.matronics.com/search
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list
  • Browse Yak-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contributions

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --