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1. 05:56 AM - Re: To flir47 (the wades)
2. 08:00 AM - Got a leather helmet for sale (Jerome van der Schaar)
3. 08:21 AM - Re: YAK-55M Tires (Scooter)
4. 12:06 PM - (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
5. 01:22 PM - Re: Got a leather helmet for sale (Gilles St-Pierre)
6. 05:50 PM - Re: YAK-55M Tires (Ron Davis)
7. 07:12 PM - Kimball Clean Kit (Tim Gagnon)
8. 07:15 PM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (KJKimball@aol.com)
9. 07:39 PM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
10. 08:12 PM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (Tim Gagnon)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "the wades" <wade154@frontiernet.net>
Gena I know the Russian's designed and the Romanians built one of the best
planes I've ever flown the Yak 52 and as far as how well they are built I
helped rebuild a 1983 52 that was landed on its nose causing damage to the
forward underbelly we had a derelict fuselage for parts a 1982 and once all
the celecos were in all the holes lined up perfect, I was amazed! kudos to
the Builders and designers.
Bill Wade
N4450Y
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From: "gena perevedentsev" <genaperevedent@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Yak-List: To flir47
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> Dear Sir,
> Your letter caused me some offence. I am
> Russian, and have been sevicing Russian planes all my
> life. Now, living in the UK, I work in helping you
> guys to be able to fly the planes which you were lucky
> enough to buy. I don't think that it was tactful of
> you to write that remark. May I suggest that it is not
> the quality of the planes that is bad, as much as the
> quality of attention or care that they are getting. I
> would like this message to be shown publically.
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> > 1. 07:28 AM - Testing (Jeff Linebaugh)
> > 2. 09:03 AM - Re: Prop Dome (flir47)
> > 3. 01:41 PM - Various questions (CJcanuck)
> > 4. 02:04 PM - Spartanburg Show? (Craig Payne)
> > 5. 03:13 PM - Re: Various questions
> > (cjpilot710@aol.com)
> > 6. 04:08 PM - Red Star Aircraft in the news
> > (Craig Payne)
> > 7. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Prop Dome (A. Dennis
> > Savarese)
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> > _____________________________________
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> > Time: 07:28:26 AM PST US
> > From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Testing
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> > ________________________________ Message 2
> > _____________________________________
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> > Time: 09:03:15 AM PST US
> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Prop Dome
> > From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47"
> > <me262pilot@comcast.net>
> >
> > Well gents. I machined the dome to clean it up. The
> > spec in the book is 0.5 mm.
> > This is approx 19 thousands. Cylindricity was a
> > major issue. I laid it out and,
> > took the measurements on the CMM. So now I have a
> > complete CAD input and, can
> > fab one from any material I want. Horrible Russian
> > quality. I guess Russian
> > and Quality in the same sentence is an Oxymoron.
> > Anyway, I have pics if anyone
> > is interested. Hope to post them to my web page as
> > soon as the wife gets it
> > going again.
> >
> > So far no leaks. Only an hour in the air yet. I live
> > in Mich and. is an inclimate
> > toilet so..... flying is limited.
> >
> > :(
> >
> > --------
> > It's not a real world war untill France surenders!
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55896#55896
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> > Time: 01:41:54 PM PST US
> > Subject: Yak-List: Various questions
> > From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
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> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "CJcanuck"
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> > I'm in the final stretch of my pre-purchase research
> > for a CJ to be based near
> > Toronto. I've learned alot about the aircraft here,
> > but I have a few additional
> > questions when someone has a moment.
> >
> > First, as it can get cold here from time to time
> > (like October to April!) I'm interested
> > in any cold wx ops tips. What sort of engine oil
> > and/or cylinder heater
> > is good on the Housai? I have electricity available
> > in the hanger I will
> > be using. If I only use an oil pan heater, what
> > sort of warm-up procedure will
> > keep my engine happy? I've noticed comments
> > regarding Carb Ice for the M-14,
> > is the Housai the same?
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a list of spares and tools to
> > have at immediate readiness?
> >
> > What size of portable air compressor would be good
> > for that inevitable day when
> > I forget to close the main air valve, and what sort
> > of adaptor would I need to
> > connect to the filler port?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55929#55929
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> > Time: 02:04:31 PM PST US
> > From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Spartanburg Show?
> >
> > My calendar shows that the Spartanburg, SC is coming
> > up soon but I can't find any
> > details on the RPA site or in 'list archives either.
> > Who is the contact here
> > and which airport is the event being held at?
> >
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> > Craig Payne
> > cpayne@joimail.com
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> > Time: 03:13:56 PM PST US
> > From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Various questions
> >
> > As far as tools go, see if you can a engine set for
> > the M-14. There some specialized
> > tools in there that are a big help. Every thing
> > else is metric. Mostly
> > 7mm, 9mm, 11mm, 14mm, 17mm, 19mm, and 21mm. Just go
> > out and buy a good set
> > of all sizes of metric tools. Do the same for
> > sockets. I forget what size the
> > plugs are. One special tool I found very handy is
> > the socket to take off the
> > oil screen at the back of the engine, however you
> > can find a socket that will
> > fit that. There are a few specialized tools to
> > remove the compressor and mags,
> > but you can make these.
> >
> > An ordinary air compressor will not build up enough
> > pressure to fully load up a
> >
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| Subject: | Got a leather helmet for sale |
This leather helmet is fitted with noise attenuating ear shells and so
offers improved ear protection and clarity of communication over the leat
her
pads fitted to the original G type cloth helmet. The dark brown leather
helmet is with a soft Chamois leather. The helmet is supplied with an 18=92
=92
cable GA plug. Please contact me offline
Best regards,
Jerome
www.yakkes.com
Click for images:
http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet1.jpg
http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet2.jpg
http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet3.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: YAK-55M Tires |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Sounds like your gear is either toed-in or toed-out. Sometimes this is corrected
via a shim between the wheel and the gear. I've bought these for Cessna gear
and they sell for ungodly amounts of money - $100 per pair for used shims.
From my experience with Cessna spring gear you can push the aircraft forward
or backward and see the gear either spreading or coming together.
Where are your tires wearing? Inside or outside? This will tell you if it's toe-out
or in. I think they wear on the outside for toe-in and inside for toe-out
(someone correct me if i'm wrong).
[quote="g.hendricks(at)sbcglobal."]Hi All You Yak Experts,
Dont laugh out there, but I just bought a YAK-55M, having little experience with
YAKs & M-14Ps, and am not an A&P. I have read all the manuals, and have tons
of questions for which that Id like to get opinions & answers. So here goes the
first installment:
TIRES
1) Tires The previous owners used retread 400x150 tires from two different
US retread suppliers. >From the logs the current set have 64 landings and my
judgment says they need changing. The previous set of retreads were changed after
only 39 landings. The wear pattern is completely smooth on one half and almost
full tread on other half the tire. Whats the usual number of landings you
folks are getting out of tires (new or retreads) and what gives with the YAK-55
wear pattern? Is something out of adjustment or is this just the way they
wear with spring gear. The book says the tires can be turned around which implies
they wear more on one side than the other.
2) New TiresI decided to start over with tires and bit the bullet for new
tires from Desser. I bought Aero Classic 6 ply 400x150 which were the only tires
that size I could readily find. When they arrived they seem to be the same
as the retreads except they are at least 1.5 inches narrower tread width than
the retreads of the same identical size. So whats the deal with the difference
in size ? When I mount them and inflate themcan I expect they will expand to
a comparable widthor is there something basic Im missing about tire sizes ?
3) Tire pressureThe YAK-55M manual says inflate the tires to 3.0 +0.5 KF/CM2,
which by my calculation is ~42psi, max 49psi. However, the new Desser 6 ply
sidewall data says to inflate to a maximum of 30 psi. There is no inflation
data on the sidewall of the retreads. Is this because Russian tires are 4-plyI
tried Desser for an answer and they dont know.
4) Tail wheel pressureThis airplane has a 200x80 tailwheel with a tube, and
the Russian manuals are absolutely silent about inflation pressure. Cant find
any data for a 200x80, but 30 psi seems to be about rightwhat are the rest
of you folks using ?
OPERATING LIMITATIONS
1) The markings for operating limitations on all the instruments are falling
off and need replacement, which I thought would be straight forwardnot so.
The FARs are clear with respect to the airspeed indicator (redline, yellow arc
and green arc, etc.), but totally ambiguous wrt to the other instrumentation.
After looking at 7~8 cockpit photos of YAK-55s, YAK-52s, and a bunch of Sukhios
one thing is clearno two are alike in the way the operating limits are marked.
Anybody want to venture an opinion as to how to properly mark the Oil Temp, Oil
Pressure, Fuel Pressure, and Cyl Hd Temp., Etc or is this totally my choice under
Experimental Exhibition ?
Regards,
George Hendricks
N95YK
> [b]
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Im looking for suggestions , best way to run strobe/nav light wire
through the wings of the YAK 52. The wings are currently off. Is it
best to put into a flexible nylon tube and run in leading edge area, or
try to fish down center until reaching the gear area? I really need a
good suggestion. Also, best location to tap into electrical power for a
avionics buss? thanks
Bob Schwartz
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
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| Subject: | Got a leather helmet for sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gilles St-Pierre" <ranchlaseigneurie@hotmail.com>
Jerome
how much do you want for your helmut
sincerely
gilles st pierre
>From: "Jerome van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Got a leather helmet for sale
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:59:39 +0200 (West-Europa (standaardtijd))
>
>
>This leather helmet is fitted with noise attenuating ear shells and so
>offers improved ear protection and clarity of communication over the
>leather
>pads fitted to the original G type cloth helmet. The dark brown leather
>helmet is with a soft Chamois leather. The helmet is supplied with an 18
>cable GA plug. Please contact me offline
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jerome
>www.yakkes.com
>
>Click for images:
>
>http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet1.jpg
>http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet2.jpg
>http://www.yakkes.com/images/Helmet3.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: YAK-55M Tires |
3) Airplane tires have a maximum rated weight and a maximum rated
pressure. Get some graph paper and scale it appropriately, then draw a
straight line from the point of max weight, max pressure to 0/0. Find
your plane's weight on the graph to see what your correct tire pressure.
----- Original Message -----
From: g.hendricks@sbcglobal.net
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: Yak-List: YAK-55M Tires
Hi All You Yak Experts,
Don't laugh out there, but I just bought a YAK-55M, having little
experience with YAKs & M-14Ps, and am not an A&P. I have read all the
manuals, and have tons of questions for which that I'd like to get
opinions & answers. So here goes the first installment:
TIRES
1) Tires. The previous owners used retread 400x150 tires from
two different US retread suppliers. >From the logs the current set have
64 landings and my judgment says they need changing. The previous set of
retreads were changed after only 39 landings. The wear pattern is
completely smooth on one half and almost full tread on other half the
tire. What's the usual number of landings you folks are getting out of
tires (new or retreads) and what gives with the YAK-55 wear pattern? Is
something out of adjustment or is this just the way they wear with
spring gear. The book says the tires can be turned around which implies
they wear more on one side than the other.
2) New Tires.I decided to start over with tires and bit the
bullet for new tires from Desser. I bought Aero Classic 6 ply 400x150
which were the only tires that size I could readily find. When they
arrived they seem to be the same as the retreads except they are at
least 1.5 inches narrower tread width than the retreads of the same
identical size. So what's the deal with the difference in size ? When I
mount them and inflate them.can I expect they will expand to a
comparable width.or is there something basic I'm missing about tire
sizes ?
3) Tire pressure.The YAK-55M manual says inflate the tires to
3.0 +0.5 KF/CM2, which by my calculation is ~42psi, max 49psi. However,
the new Desser 6 ply sidewall data says to inflate to a maximum of 30
psi. There is no inflation data on the sidewall of the retreads. Is this
because Russian tires are 4-ply.I tried Desser for an answer and they
don't know.
4) Tail wheel pressure.This airplane has a 200x80 tailwheel with
a tube, and the Russian manuals are absolutely silent about inflation
pressure. Can't find any data for a 200x80, but 30 psi seems to be about
right.what are the rest of you folks using ?
OPERATING LIMITATIONS
1) The markings for operating limitations on all the instruments
are falling off and need replacement, which I thought would be straight
forward.not so. The FARs are clear with respect to the airspeed
indicator (redline, yellow arc and green arc, etc.), but totally
ambiguous wrt to the other instrumentation. After looking at 7~8 cockpit
photos of YAK-55s, YAK-52s, and a bunch of Sukhio's one thing is
clear.no two are alike in the way the operating limits are marked.
Anybody want to venture an opinion as to how to properly mark the Oil
Temp, Oil Pressure, Fuel Pressure, and Cyl Hd Temp., Etc or is this
totally my choice under Experimental - Exhibition ?
Regards,
George Hendricks
N95YK
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| Subject: | Kimball Clean Kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Anyone have any experience with Kimballs Scavenge Pump and Shut-Off valve?
If so, pass along some info please!
T
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| Subject: | Re: Kimball Clean Kit |
Tim,
I'm pretty familiar with the stuff. What questions do you have?
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball,
VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
_www.jimkimballenterprises.com_ (http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/)
_www.pittsmodel12.com_ (http://www.pittsmodel12.com/)
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| Subject: | Kimball Clean Kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I have seen several versions of the clean kit to include Les Crowder's
original version, the prototype of which was on my 50. I think I have
seen Kevin's version too, but I am not totally sure. All of them used
an electric pump to pump the oil out of the lower sump and back into the
main oil tank. Les Crowder's version also used special valve covers
with rubber hoses that allowed all the oil in the valve covers to flow
back down into the sump as well. All of these systems worked extremely
well, but Les Crowder's version added so many hoses and clamps that it
just scared the "B'Jesus" out of me due to the possibility of a clamp
letting go and oil going everywhere.....on the bottom of the aircraft
where I could not see.
That said, Kevin's oil shut off valve is the one real answer that works
like a dream. I do not have it on my aircraft but I have seen it on
three others with M-14's and it is the "real deal". This valve is
installed just downstream on the main oil feed. Shutting it off
directly after flight means that NO oil is going to run down into the
engine through the oil pump ball check valve, and NO oil is going to end
up causing a hyd. lock on your lower cylinders.
If you also scavenge your engine properly before shutdown, it is my
opinion that you can also live without the electric oil scavenge pump
itself, but I would defer to more expert opinions in that regard.
Again, the oil tank shutoff valve is the real solution, but of course it
comes with a danger. If you forget to turn it on before starting... Bye
bye engine. Kevin's valve has a built in electric interrupt switch that
you can use to interrupt your start system, but nothing is foolproof.
I am not sure if Kevin's system includes the hose fittings or not....
But regardless his system is the one I would want.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 22:12
Subject: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Anyone have any experience with Kimballs Scavenge Pump and Shut-Off
valve?
If so, pass along some info please!
T
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| Subject: | Re: Kimball Clean Kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
[quote="KJKimball(at)aol.com"]Tim,
I'm pretty familiar with the stuff. What questions do you have?
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com (http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/)
www.pittsmodel12.com (http://www.pittsmodel12.com/)
> [b]
Kevin,
I just shot an email out looking for some info on the setup out to your company
email address. Just looking for an idea of how it works, issues (such as those
Mark mentioned..specifically failures), ease of installation, things of that
nature.
I know it may be another point of failure but I am willing to take a closer look.
Thanks for the post Mark.
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