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1. 12:27 AM - Re: Wilga (Herb Coussons)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (Hans Oortman 1)
3. 05:19 AM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 07:42 AM - Re: Kimball Clean Kit (Hans Oortman 1)
5. 08:17 AM - Re: My CJ is up for Auction on EBAY-Motors (Ernie)
6. 10:31 AM - Re: My CJ is up for Auction on EBAY-Motors (flir47)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
I have a Wilga - 104-35. Give me a call to discuss.
I have some questions about the yak 50 also.
Herb
920-639-8434 cell
On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Francis Butler wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Francis Butler <francisbutler@mac.com>
>
>
> Anyone on this list own a Wilga? Am looking at the new Lycoming
> powered wilga 2000 as seen at Oshkosh this year. Any user
> information on the aircraft would be appreciated. On another note,
> Sold my Yak 50 today. It's going to Alabama.
>
>
> Regards,
> Francis Butler
> 701 239-4532
>
>
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| Subject: | Kimball Clean Kit |
Dennis,
Where can I find that relief valve?? I know it's on the oil pump but do you
have a picture or something??? Since about the last 100 hour check up we
have this problem..it looks like it's worth looking in to.
Hans
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens A. Dennis Savarese
Verzonden: zaterdag 26 augustus 2006 2:34
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
The oil pressure relief valve in the oil pump and the spring that applies
the pressure on the valve are the primary problem with excessive oil drain.
I have seen the spring bent and also broken. Both caused the valve not to
seat. I have pulled the valve out, polished out the groove, reinstalled it
and stopped the excessive oil drain. Fix the pressure relief valve and/or
the spring and you will basically eliminate the problem.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, <mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
And the oil safety valve will work perfectly UNLESS:
1. You are out of air and decide to prop the engine, which sooner or later
all of us will do.
2. Use the manual selector valve handle on the start solanoid.
Please do not misunderstand me. I think Kevin's product is noteworthy and I
will eventually buy one myself and install it. PLUS, the current
installation methods include safety designs to prevent engine damage/loss,
(such as the mentioned oil safety switch) but they are not fool-proof.
The ONLY method I can think of that would be 100% effective would be to tie
the MAG P-Leads into this switch, would would automatically ground them if
the oil valve was closed, thus totally preventing engine start... and of
course that adds the potential of other things going wrong.
Just being the Devil's Advocate here... as I said, I think the valve is
great.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KJKimball@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:13
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Kimball Clean [LashBack] Kit
David,
Here is a link to the page on our website which shows the various items we
have developed and offer for the M14 engine. All these items were
originally developed for the Pitts model 12. As you can see, the page is
listed as the moose support page because we offer these items to Murphy
Moose builders as well. Yes, you can use the oil safety switch on an
electric start engine to prevent starting without the oil valve fully open.
moose support <http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/h_support_moose.html>
page
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com <http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/>
www.pittsmo del12.com <http://www.pittsmodel12.com/>
.com/Navigator?Yak-List
.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Re: Kimball Clean Kit |
It's under the cap where the oil pressure adjustment screw is on the
right side of the oil pump. The adjustment screw applies the pressure
to the spring that pushes on the pressure relief valve. Remove the cap
on the right side of the oil pump. Before you remove the adjuster screw
etc., rotate the screw counterclockwise and count the number of turns
until it comes out. That way you'll have a starting point to resetting
the oil pressure. Loosen and remove the large nut and pull out the
spring and valve. Check the spring carefully. If it is bent in
anyway, replace it because the bent spring will not allow the valve to
seat properly. The valve itself will have a groove in it from where it
seats against the valve seat. The valve seat is not like a normal valve
seat which mates perfectly to the valve. It is nothing more than a
machined hole. That is why there is a groove around the valve. So
don't try polishing the seat. Just make sure there is no buildup of any
kind on the seat and it feels smooth to the touch.
You can polish the valve to remove the groove and reinstall it. If the
spring is in tact, flip it 180 degrees and reassemble everything except
leave the cap off because you will have to adjust the oil pressure.
Turn the screw in the number of turns you counted when you removed it.
Then run the engine and reset the oil pressure to the desired level.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Hans Oortman 1
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:59 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
Dennis,
Where can I find that relief valve?? I know it's on the oil pump but
do you have a picture or something??? Since about the last 100 hour
check up we have this problem..it looks like it's worth looking in to.
Hans
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens A. Dennis Savarese
Verzonden: zaterdag 26 augustus 2006 2:34
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
The oil pressure relief valve in the oil pump and the spring that
applies the pressure on the valve are the primary problem with excessive
oil drain. I have seen the spring bent and also broken. Both caused
the valve not to seat. I have pulled the valve out, polished out the
groove, reinstalled it and stopped the excessive oil drain. Fix the
pressure relief valve and/or the spring and you will basically eliminate
the problem.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
And the oil safety valve will work perfectly UNLESS:
1. You are out of air and decide to prop the engine, which sooner
or later all of us will do.
2. Use the manual selector valve handle on the start solanoid.
Please do not misunderstand me. I think Kevin's product is
noteworthy and I will eventually buy one myself and install it. PLUS,
the current installation methods include safety designs to prevent
engine damage/loss, (such as the mentioned oil safety switch) but they
are not fool-proof.
The ONLY method I can think of that would be 100% effective would be
to tie the MAG P-Leads into this switch, would would automatically
ground them if the oil valve was closed, thus totally preventing engine
start... and of course that adds the potential of other things going
wrong.
Just being the Devil's Advocate here... as I said, I think the valve
is great.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
KJKimball@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:13
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: =ashBack] Kimball Clean [LashBack] Kit
David,
Here is a link to the page on our website which shows the various
items we have developed and offer for the M14 engine. All these items
were originally developed for the Pitts model 12. As you can see, the
page is listed as the moose support page because we offer these items to
Murphy Moose builders as well. Yes, you can use the oil safety switch
on an electric start engine to prevent starting without the oil valve
fully open.
moose support page
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com
www.pittsmo del12.com
.com/Navigator?Yak-List .com/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Kimball Clean Kit |
Thanks Dennis. I'll give it a try..
Hans
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens A. Dennis Savarese
Verzonden: zaterdag 26 augustus 2006 14:18
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
It's under the cap where the oil pressure adjustment screw is on the right
side of the oil pump. The adjustment screw applies the pressure to the
spring that pushes on the pressure relief valve. Remove the cap on the
right side of the oil pump. Before you remove the adjuster screw etc.,
rotate the screw counterclockwise and count the number of turns until it
comes out. That way you'll have a starting point to resetting the oil
pressure. Loosen and remove the large nut and pull out the spring and
valve. Check the spring carefully. If it is bent in anyway, replace it
because the bent spring will not allow the valve to seat properly. The
valve itself will have a groove in it from where it seats against the valve
seat. The valve seat is not like a normal valve seat which mates perfectly
to the valve. It is nothing more than a machined hole. That is why there
is a groove around the valve. So don't try polishing the seat. Just make
sure there is no buildup of any kind on the seat and it feels smooth to the
touch.
You can polish the valve to remove the groove and reinstall it. If the
spring is in tact, flip it 180 degrees and reassemble everything except
leave the cap off because you will have to adjust the oil pressure. Turn
the screw in the number of turns you counted when you removed it. Then run
the engine and reset the oil pressure to the desired level.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Hans Oortman 1 <mailto:pa3arw@euronet.nl>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:59 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
Dennis,
Where can I find that relief valve?? I know it's on the oil pump but do you
have a picture or something??? Since about the last 100 hour check up we
have this problem..it looks like it's worth looking in to.
Hans
_____
Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens A. Dennis Savarese
Verzonden: zaterdag 26 augustus 2006 2:34
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
The oil pressure relief valve in the oil pump and the spring that applies
the pressure on the valve are the primary problem with excessive oil drain.
I have seen the spring bent and also broken. Both caused the valve not to
seat. I have pulled the valve out, polished out the groove, reinstalled it
and stopped the excessive oil drain. Fix the pressure relief valve and/or
the spring and you will basically eliminate the problem.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, <mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Kimball Clean Kit
And the oil safety valve will work perfectly UNLESS:
1. You are out of air and decide to prop the engine, which sooner or later
all of us will do.
2. Use the manual selector valve handle on the start solanoid.
Please do not misunderstand me. I think Kevin's product is noteworthy and I
will eventually buy one myself and install it. PLUS, the current
installation methods include safety designs to prevent engine damage/loss,
(such as the mentioned oil safety switch) but they are not fool-proof.
The ONLY method I can think of that would be 100% effective would be to tie
the MAG P-Leads into this switch, would would automatically ground them if
the oil valve was closed, thus totally preventing engine start... and of
course that adds the potential of other things going wrong.
Just being the Devil's Advocate here... as I said, I think the valve is
great.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KJKimball@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:13
Subject: Re: Yak-List: =ashBack] Kimball Clean [LashBack] Kit
David,
Here is a link to the page on our website which shows the various items we
have developed and offer for the M14 engine. All these items were
originally developed for the Pitts model 12. As you can see, the page is
listed as the moose support page because we offer these items to Murphy
Moose builders as well. Yes, you can use the oil safety switch on an
electric start engine to prevent starting without the oil valve fully open.
moose support <http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/h_support_moose.html>
page
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com <http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/>
www.pittsmo del12.com <http://www.pittsmodel12.com/>
.com/Navigator?Yak-List
.com/Navigator?Yak-List
.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Re: My CJ is up for Auction on EBAY-Motors |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <erniel29@gmail.com>
I just checked, and its there. Make sure you are going to Ebay Motors.
Search on Nanchang,
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: My CJ is up for Auction on EBAY-Motors |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
Erine,
Nice looking bird why are you selling it??? Do you have a spec sheet?
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