---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/09/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:08 AM - Re: Re: gills (Jason Bialek) 2. 08:05 AM - Re: Cj 6 engine (KingCJ6@aol.com) 3. 09:07 AM - Re: Cj 6 engine (ByronMFox@aol.com) 4. 09:32 AM - Re: Cj 6 engine (Jim) 5. 11:57 AM - Re: Cj 6 engine (jackron@att.net) 6. 06:54 PM - Re: Cj 6 engine (Jim Griffin) 7. 09:11 PM - Re: gills (Tim Gagnon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:50 AM PST US From: "Jason Bialek" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: gills --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jason Bialek" Does anyone have any Sukhoi gills they can part with? I'd prefer the Sukhoi gills given some previous advice I got but if anyone has any Yak gills I could use those also. Thank you, Jason ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:43 AM PST US From: KingCJ6@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Jim - after 2 months of trial & error, we also discovered a crack in our front engine case below #2. The saga started with growing amounts of oil in the front cowl area, on the gills and prop. Then the oil film began to show on the windscreen. Unable to locate the source, we were enroute to the shop when #7 worked very loose and began streaming oil, luckily only 4 nm from the airport. Thinking we had the culprit, it was repaired and test flown. The leak continued so we replaced the oil pump, and checked compression thinking the case was being pressurized and blowing out the upper nose case vent. Still no luck as the leak continued. Closer examination showed #2 was now slightly loose and upon removing the cylinder, the crack was discovered, starting at the base of one of the studs. To our knowledge, this engine has never been over heated, suffered a sudden stoppage or any other abnormal stress, so....any insight out there on the list? Is 2 just an unlucky number in China, did the Chinese purposely stress the cases near #2, knowing someday we would all need new engines, but at a drastically inflated prices or what? Dave In a message dated 9/8/2006 6:42:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jgriffint28@cox.net writes: I found a crack in my front engine case below #2 cylinder on my Huosai engine. It explained my windscreen oil without apparent oil on my prop. I am looking for another chinese engine if anybody has one for sale. I am also considering an M14 engine if the conversion cost is not prohibitive. Any ideas? Jim Griffin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:14 AM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine In a message dated 9/9/2006 8:07:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, KingCJ6@aol.com writes: Is 2 just an unlucky number in China, did the Chinese purposely stress the cases near #2, knowing someday we would all need new engines, but at a drastically inflated prices or what? My friend Dave, the conspiracy theorist. Right, and the Mafia is behind the assassinations of Jack and Bobby, and the 1969 moon landing was done on a Hollywood sound stage under the guidance on a young George Lucas. So, there's really no doubt the Chinese Communists knew back in the 60s & 70s knew that detente with the US was inevitable, and planned obsolescence Detroit style would be a great marketing ploy. Kind of like free bank checking as a lost leader for all the other outrageous bank fees -- but you already know about that. ...Blitz ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:02 AM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Dave Never have heard of anyone with the Problem like this, it must have some time in it's history had a bad Hydralic lock or over heated at some point in it;s life, very strange it took so long to show up, the cases are made of magnezium and It could be a number of things, this may be an Old 4th overhaul also, who Knows for sure, but lucky it didnot turn into a forced landing some place. Let me know what else you find, it may be a good idea to look alot closer at these Engines. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: KingCJ6@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Jim - after 2 months of trial & error, we also discovered a crack in our front engine case below #2. The saga started with growing amounts of oil in the front cowl area, on the gills and prop. Then the oil film began to show on the windscreen. Unable to locate the source, we were enroute to the shop when #7 worked very loose and began streaming oil, luckily only 4 nm from the airport. Thinking we had the culprit, it was repaired and test flown. The leak continued so we replaced the oil pump, and checked compression thinking the case was being pressurized and blowing out the upper nose case vent. Still no luck as the leak continued. Closer examination showed #2 was now slightly loose and upon removing the cylinder, the crack was discovered, starting at the base of one of the studs. To our knowledge, this engine has never been over heated, suffered a sudden stoppage or any other abnormal stress, so....any insight out there on the list? Is 2 just an unlucky number in China, did the Chinese purposely stress the cases near #2, knowing someday we would all need new engines, but at a drastically inflated prices or what? Dave In a message dated 9/8/2006 6:42:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jgriffint28@cox.net writes: I found a crack in my front engine case below #2 cylinder on my Huosai engine. It explained my windscreen oil without apparent oil on my prop. I am looking for another chinese engine if anybody has one for sale. I am also considering an M14 engine if the conversion cost is not prohibitive. Any ideas? Jim Griffin ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:00 AM PST US From: jackron@att.net Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Jim, I have a spare engine that is still in the crate it came in. It has about 150 hrs on it and was running fine when removed for a new engine. The bad news is that it's in Juneau Alaska. Contact me off list at 907 586-6481 or jackron@att.net. Ron Swanson -- -------------- Original message from "Jim Griffin" : -------------- I found a crack in my front engine case below #2 cylinder on my Huosai engine. It explained my windscreen oil without apparent oil on my prop. I am looking for another chinese engine if anybody has one for sale. I am also considering an M14 engine if the conversion cost is not prohibitive. Any ideas? Jim Griffin
Jim, I have a spare engine that is still in the crate it came in.  It has about 150 hrs on it and was running fine when removed for a new engine.  The bad news is that it's in Juneau Alaska.  Contact me off list at 907 586-6481 or jackron@att.net.  Ron Swanson
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-------------- Original message from "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>: --------------

I found a crack in my front engine case below #2 cylinder on my Huosai engine. It explained my windscreen oil without apparent oil on my prop.
I am looking for another chinese engine if anybody has one for sale. I am also considering an M14 engine if the conversion cost is not prohibitive. Any ideas?
Jim Griffin
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:36 PM PST US From: "Jim Griffin" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine My engine is 650 since chinese remanufacture and runs cold since I have a spinner and no gills. No known hydraulic but I have caught 3 in 3 years after sitting for long periods. Jim Griffin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Dave Never have heard of anyone with the Problem like this, it must have some time in it's history had a bad Hydralic lock or over heated at some point in it;s life, very strange it took so long to show up, the cases are made of magnezium and It could be a number of things, this may be an Old 4th overhaul also, who Knows for sure, but lucky it didnot turn into a forced landing some place. Let me know what else you find, it may be a good idea to look alot closer at these Engines. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: KingCJ6@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cj 6 engine Jim - after 2 months of trial & error, we also discovered a crack in our front engine case below #2. The saga started with growing amounts of oil in the front cowl area, on the gills and prop. Then the oil film began to show on the windscreen. Unable to locate the source, we were enroute to the shop when #7 worked very loose and began streaming oil, luckily only 4 nm from the airport. Thinking we had the culprit, it was repaired and test flown. The leak continued so we replaced the oil pump, and checked compression thinking the case was being pressurized and blowing out the upper nose case vent. Still no luck as the leak continued. Closer examination showed #2 was now slightly loose and upon removing the cylinder, the crack was discovered, starting at the base of one of the studs. To our knowledge, this engine has never been over heated, suffered a sudden stoppage or any other abnormal stress, so....any insight out there on the list? Is 2 just an unlucky number in China, did the Chinese purposely stress the cases near #2, knowing someday we would all need new engines, but at a drastically inflated prices or what? Dave In a message dated 9/8/2006 6:42:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jgriffint28@cox.net writes: I found a crack in my front engine case below #2 cylinder on my Huosai engine. It explained my windscreen oil without apparent oil on my prop. I am looking for another chinese engine if anybody has one for sale. I am also considering an M14 engine if the conversion cost is not prohibitive. Any ideas? Jim Griffin .com/Navigator?Yak-List ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:28 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: gills From: "Tim Gagnon" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" jandhbialek(at)hotmail.co wrote: > Does anyone have any Sukhoi gills they can part with? I'd prefer the Sukhoi > gills given some previous advice I got but if anyone has any Yak gills I > could use those also. > > Thank you, > > Jason Check with Doug Sapp...I sent him a bunch from my airplane after I went to the Iris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=60716#60716